the only way you would get free trump is reelect free trump at this point. this is only one case against them. this is law fair. the republicans have to wake up and fight fire with fire because this is totally unacceptable and it is a disgrace to country. "jesse waters primetime," good night. ♪ ♪ >>> good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson," a fox news alert, american politicses thrown into complete chaos when a grand jury in manhattan a place where 80% voted for joe biden decided to indict biden's political opponent in the upcoming election, the republican front runner who leads by 30 points in polls, donald trump. the jury did this at the urging of a man called alvin bragg, the district attorney who have been famous by making the city much more dangerous by refusing to enforce laws against crimes like robbery or rape. we don't know what the indictment says or what the charges are, but previous news reports suggest they'll imminent from an alleged payment seven years ago, alvin bragg apparently believes it is a crime. the net results is donald trump is the

you're watching msnbc's continuing coverage of indictment of donald trump on thursday donald trump became the first former commander in chief in history to face a criminal indictment. that's after a grand jury in new york voted to indict the former president as part of manhattan district attorney's alvin bragg's investigation into a hush money payment made into adult film star stormy daniels back in 2016 now that indictment is currently sealed, and that means we and a whole lot of people do not know the specific charges or charge that have been levied against donald trump we do know bragg has been focused on a felony charge of falsifying business records which carries a maximum prison sentence of four years donald trump denies any wrongdoing, denies having an affair with stormy daniels, and he is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty in a court of law that trial has not yet occurred. bragg's investigation is one of many against the ex-president. back in 2018 cohen, trump's former lawyer and fixer, was ntenced to three years in prison after pleading guilty to nine criminal count

making pictures of trump getting arrested while waiting for trump's arrest.t i thought maybe five would retweet it. more than two days, they have been viewed 5 million times. joining us now from dallas. steve, author of the new book uncovered how the media got cozy with power, abandoned its principles and lost the people. i am sure some people were initially confused by this or thought that trump had been arrested by the nypd. aren't these ai photos pretty chilling? >> you raise a point. this is greater than trump. technology changes with defects that can make it seemed like a person is actually talking but not. on some level also, a fan fiction element to this. why are they getting shared so much? people are just sharing that because it is this wish fulfillment they are getting out of it. i think that it is also, frankly, a symptom of what bubbles up over indexes on places like twitter and in the corporate media which is the trump addiction not so widespread among the general public. among the media, people that shared this artwork on twitter it is a big fac

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a mentor of donald trump's. by the time roy coon died, in 1986, he was a disgraced, disbarred lawyer, who had been charged with -- before he died roy cohen once said, don trump is my best friend. someone should have warned michael cohen that when donald trump says he wants a lawyer like roy cohn and you become donald trump's lawyer, there's a chance you might end up like roy cohn, disbarred and disgraced. as michael cohen is now. evan corcoran could be next. to follow former trump lawyers, roy cohn and michael cohen into disbarment and disgrace, depending on how he testifies under oath to special prosecutor jack smith's grand jury in the washington heights. today jack smith won the right to pierce the attorney client privilege and questioning trump criminal defense attorney evan corcoran about the government documents and classified documents found, with an fbi search warrant, and on trump's home in florida, including the classified documents that the fbi found in donald trump's desk. few lawyers in history have

at trump's direction. by the way for donald, since we're talking about convicted felons see on tuesday, pal. cohen served jail time in a federal case for arranging the payments, pleading guilty to campaign violations and tax evasion. as for the case against trump, michael cohen's lawyer claims there's more to it than many people expect. there will be a lot of people surprised at the level of evidence that the detail of evidence based on my experience in watching this group of prosecutors developed this case that this is about facts. documents text messages, other witnesses, not just mr cohen. it's a very strong factual case . trump denies having an affair with both women. stormy daniels reacted to the indictment tweeting. i have so many messages coming in that i can't respond and don't want to spill my champagne. meanwhile donald trump jr coming to his father's defense, calling the charges communist level, this is stuff that would make mows. stalin. pol pot. it would make them blush. according to politico,

trump. good morning, lauren. what happens next? lauren: he is expected to turn himself in next week. that means he be escorted by the secret service from mar-a-lago to manhattan. at his arraignment as early as tuesday, he will be processed , fingerprinted, likely dna swabbed just like everybody else, and then there's that mugshot. political gold, stuart. trump says he's been prosecuted and persecuted, "this is political persecution and election interference at the highest level in history, from the time i came down the golden escalator at trump power and even before i was sworn in as your president of the united states, the radical let democrat s, the enemy of the hard working men and women of this country have been engaged in a witch hunt to destroy the make america great again movement. i believe this witchhunt will backfire massively on joe biden ." his current and presumed 2024 gop rivals are coming to his defense including florida governor ron desantis who attacks the da, alvin bragg, n

this is what trump does. he pumps everybody and he gets them all fired up and the juices flowing, right? just to get them going, and all they have to do is just take a step back for a second. and if they did, and ask themselves, wait a minute, time out, that's not right. it's a well worn play in the trump playbook. just ask michael cohen. >> it's a typical donald j trump play out of the playbook. figure out how you're going to muddy the water as best as you possibly can, denigrate the person, disparage them, you do the same thing to cassidy hutchison, to anyone and everyone that is for the truth. muddying the waters might be the thing that donald trump does best. >> he didn't back doing during his presidency when he and then attorney general bill barr's spin the results of the mueller report before it became public. and when he released the incomplete transcript from the so-called perfect phone call, where he tried to pressure ukrainian president zelenskyy into digging up dirt on the bidens ahead of the 2020

so that trump can win it.se trump election fraud claims from congress to the white house. he is a central player and all this. and i wonder where you think trump's most vulnerable. in the january six probe when it comes to mark meadows testimony? >> i think for mark meadows, like corcoran, although not a lawyer he's the guy in the room, he's gonna be extremely privy to what trump's real thoughts are, and i think importantly even aside from the state of mind, it's his corroborating testimony to what trump did, didn't do that day, what he really wanted to have happened. either through action or inaction, and that's circumstantial evidence just from the action. he doesn't need to speculate as to what the former president was thinking, he can testify about what he did, what he was told, what he didn't do. after he's told about what was happening that day. >> do you think meadows is a test of the defenses argument, or do you think this is straight-up, the what -- that he has? >> i think it's most likely, both i thi

but what of trump wants?nts to push this into th election and use it politically believe me, one where neithe he's gonna use this >> great point there. david, there's no evidence tha trump will be indicted o arrested but his comments as we mention they are newsworthy. how should the media b covering this without playin into can - control the narrative? i need to say he probabl posted that on truth social. not a lot of followers certainly not the millions h once commanded on facebook and twitter, and instagram but because it is him making that statement the media ran with that. and now it's all around th world. >> yeah, i think you reporte within the context this twee this post did not come in vacuum a couple months ago h posted that he wanted to pardo all january six arrestees. and a couple days ago he basically said that they did nothing wrong. those posts indicate that this is a man who's not opposed t political violence he wants to even reward an protect the people who came ou and committed violence back o

trump, we will do that. which begs the question, what else has donald trump asked most republicans to do and what have they said yes to and guaranteed to cooperate and protect the former president? >> there you are. david jolly and donna elwood, thank you so much. we really appreciate you.. >> david jolly and donna edwards, thank you both.)%qj that's all in o,] this tue[dry night.xd alex wagnerqw3t( tonight start now. >>> thank you for this delightfuln■handoff. >> it's my pleasure tolp do so an old friend. >> an old friend. great show tonight,fá my e1frie. >>> thanks for joining us.q we start the wall street journal broke the story about the;xp &h% alleged hush moneyt( payments tr stormy daniels to buy her silence over anxd alleged sexua encounter withok donald trump. the manhattan district attorney atÑijf theÑi time opened an investigation after the news broke. michael cohen went before congress in 2019 and he threwok the gates wide open. notq only revealed new details about trump's direct involvement that

we now know that the trump campaign official, was donal trump himself here and yet, what do you not see o fox news a recognition of that here >> because these three peopl met cut a deal, that would ostensibly be helpful to donal trump in a close election. >> in august of 2015, they set up an agreement that the publisher of the nationa enquirer, would go and try t catch and kill stories lik stormy daniels, like karen mcdougal's, and it would be at coordination, when year later, that's exactly what happened karen mcdougal's story, an stormy daniels story, and, it' important to note, david pecker, just a couple of days ago, o monday before the grand jury voted to indict. he went for a second time, before the grand jury, david pecker is important, because his company, is alread acknowledged that quote, the want to buy these stories. quote, let me find her my notes. hold on one second here. i'm gonna come back to you here, but essentially what they said is that it is intended t influence the 2016 election. >> so back to the grand jury >> so that is a new knowledg meant by david pecker public

to authorities trump himself already callin for protests to be clear, no evidence tha trump has indeedindicted the manhattan da's offic declined to comment. just minutes ago, michael cohe shedding light on the gran juries possible timeline >> the grand jury meets you sa monday, wednesday, thursday. which means he's gonna b arrested next tuesday? they would've had to vote an indictment thursday. because you were there testifying on wednesday? >> correct >> just yesterday -- the claims of harassment calls for protest nbc learned at least five law enforcement agencies have been preparing for potential unrest, it includes the nypd and the fbi. they're discussing how t protect the manhattan criminal court, were trump may go o trial if he's in data. nbc news correspondent gar grumbach, joins me now fro mar-a-lago gary, what are you hearing fro trump, the gop in the possible indictment >> something i find real interesting, alicia, as no only who the republicans are that are continuing to bac former president donald trump. but how strongly they're continuing to back the man the most powerful r

i'm back on team trump, they weren't over donald trump.with him. they're remaining with him. look, i think what happened in the evangelical voting public is really a lot of the people who held their nose for him in 2016, by 2020, were the third bass boat in the boat parade. a lot of people went all in on him, even knowing all of his problems. for them, i don't think this potential indictment does anything at all. i don't think a georgia indictment does anything at all. there is a category of people in the evangelical community, a people who are just all in on trump, in part because he is so punitive and pugilistic. they like that. but there is another category of people, and i interact with them all the time, that they are truly tired of the drama. an indictment isn't going to bind them to donald trump. an indictment is going to further separate them. i just think all of this commentary that says an indictment is good for him politically, that's twitter nonsense. it's not where people really are. >> it's twitter nonsense and liberals in th

this is donald trump posting o trump truth social, and thes statements are being made. these things be used against donald trump these posts untrue social? >> katie, under the rules of evidence, this is what we call the statement a party opponent i would've slap a government exhibits sticker on this pos and i wanted to sit out hi criminal trial and this is a dark moment in our nation's history i'm glad you got to break th news, katie. because what we have just seen is basically, come to d.c. o january 6th. we will be wild. two point oh and i am sorry to say that for months i have been saying on air and online, that the momen donald trump knows he's been indicted, his first post wil be coming to manhattan or come to georgia for my agreement. we'll be wild. he knows precisely what he i doing. he used similar language t incite, to entice hi supporters to come to d.c. o january 6th. and then he proceeded to incit imminent, lawless action and he has done it all ove again. but, everything donald trump does is a miscalculation katie. and here is why. he has now just given the

well, it will strengthen trump - trump has been indicted?l strengthen trump and help his chances to get the republican party nomination in 24. i don't think it will help get him re—elected. because the stronger trump does in the republican party, more and more americans outside the republican party understand how absolutely unelectable he is. and this is a really important point. i mean, he wasjust indicted in new york for hush money to a porn star and he covered it up in his business filings and all of that but this is just the filings and all of that but this isjust the beginning. let's not forget donald trump is being investigated for inciting an attempt to overthrow an american election. donald trump will probably be indicted for pressuring election officials in the state of georgia to overthrow that state's election results. so, there are much bigger, more important charges, i think, coming down the pipe that trump is going to have to deal with. in your assessment, what do you think donald trump is thinking right now? how do you think h

after living through trump may have been a mistake to pardo nixon because it allows people like trump who are bad operators to fill themselves with unwelcome hubris. >> i think the historica consensus on that pardon has really shifted for exactly the reasons that you have noted. douglas brinkley, a grea pleasure to have you here. my friend and colleague john psyche, check her out this weekend. thank you very much. that is all in on this norma thursday night and the rachel maddow show starts right now good evening, rachel >> this is not supposed to b when the rachel maddow show is on >> i know. can i tell you a quick funny thing? you texted back the back and forth and i misread your tex [laughter] i thought i was gonna have you on the top of the show and the you are you crossed on the top of my show and i was lik sending everyone on a while it was chase. but it's wonderful to see you. no >> or you thought i was gonna be on with you an hour ago, just pop up roundly o your show uninvited? >> no, i was having you on but then i realized afterwards tha i'd screw that up and heads an a bunch

attorney , it was all about trump, how he' trumps the stront against trump, trump, trump.tru. that also raises independently some ethical problems for mr. mrme ethical problems for mr. bragg, i think. but as mr. wisenberg said , you know, this case prudentially is wrong, but also think about the evidence again, there could be surprises. maybe mr. said something surpris to help them, maybe mr. wisenberg, or they're turning the screws to . but ultimately, the case turns on michael cohen. that's why we saw other peoplekb being called to the grand jury. but think about whatostell bob costello did. o whatever mr. cohen has to say, he spoke to bob costello as bob as his lawyer. and according to mr costello,o e he said that cohen assured him trump d that cohen assured him at a time when he could help t himself that trump knew nothing about the stormy daniels payment or the mick mcdougal payment. and by the way, bob costello submitted additional handwritten notes this past monday, contemporaneous notes from june 13th. 2018, quoting cohen as sayingn a specifically that there was wnothi

trump whistle oh.hat trump invited her, we only knew as a porn star he had just met, to her hotel penthouse where he greeted her in black silk pajamas. that is what trump was wearing. then she claims he promised her that he could get her on his reality tv show the apprentice. and then, this up together. after that, trump reportedly called daniels occasionally from a blocked number, referring to as honey bunch when he did. she says they met up two more times. once at the launch party for trump vodka, and another timeout beverly hills hotel where daniels claimed trump again invited her up to his room, but when she got there, they just watched shark week on tv. and this whole story has always been juicy, but originally it was tabloids truthfully, not new york times juicy. the first time stormy daniels tried to sell the story was in 2011. she was upset the tang trump promised together on the prentiss never came true in trump was just thinking of the idea he might run for president. at the time, it was so o

donald trump will come here on monday probably to trump tower and make his way on tuesday.will be a theatrical event. he is if no one -- if nothing else someone that things in television terms and he will want to maximize that to his benefit but he is coming to be arrested and that for him is a huge problem for his dignity. it has made him angry. we know that. he will try to turn it to his advantage. you can see a path to that advantage through his supporters becoming more riled up and critically of course he republicans, senior republicans, potential rival republicans for the nomination to fall in behind donald trump taking him still the leading candidate for the white house next year. anchor: fascinating stuff to watch. gary, thank you. in a somewhat related note a delaware judge has ruled a lawsuit involving dominion voting system brought against fox news will go to a jury trial. fox had hoped to avoid a jury trial. dominion is seeking damages saying fox d famed the company. dominion became a popular punching bag from donald trump supporters. turning to ukraine where pre

publication asked trump fo comment.o sel a story of an alleged affair she had with trump in 2016 2007 she retains attorney keith davidson, who approaches the national enquirer about possible deal. in august 5th, the nationa enquirer secures the rights to karen mcdougal's accounts fo $150,000 but never publishes her story. and federal prosecutors late say the agreement was meant to suppress her story, so as to prevent it from influencing th election on october 8th, stormy daniels is now also represented by keith davidson, who's tells th editor in chief of the nationa enquirer that she's willing to go on the record about her alleged affair that news travels to michael cohen, and cohen negotiates deal to pay daniels $130,000 i exchange for the rights to her story and a nondisclosur agreement. on october 27th, cohen wires $150,000 to stormy daniels's attorney on november 8th, trump i elected president. in the same month he i inaugurated, january 2017, michael cohen seek reimbursement from the trump organization for that pay

the trump rule is, the onl people allowed to be judges in trump cases, or investigator in donald trump, or whit republicans who love donal trump. tonight, donald trump is on th verge of indictment in manhattan by a distric attorney who was born the same year that donald trump was first accused of racis practices by the justice department by next week, the world coul be watching a courtroom dram like we have never seen before the anointed one seems like to exalted a label to tak seriously in the real world. but when the history of this period is written, it might fi alvin bragg. as well as it seems to fit him when he was on his way fro harvard college to harvard law school leading off our discussion tonight, is harry lippman, former u.s. attorney and forme deputy assistant attorne general. he is now senior legal affairs columnist for the los angele times. also with us, charles coleman, former federal prosecutor an former senior assistan district attorney and brooklyn he is now a civil rights attorney at an msnbc legal analyst. charles, let me begin with you with your all and importan lo

is trump and ended. handful of other aides are the ones who really know what was going on in those conversations, and what is fascinating about one of the rulings. there were two rulings. this judge issued yesterday and one was about executive privilege, saying it doesn't apply. that was trump's request. pence's request was that he doesn't have to testify on the speech or debate clause, and as we understand it, there was a narrow split ruling on that pence, you know, doesn't have to testify in relation to what pence was doing on january 6th. but he does have to testify about any potential illegality by trump and i do think that that is basically like what we saw in this documents investigation where the crime fraud exception was put in place by a judge and the judge said that the doj had met the threshold. so pence has you know , he got some of this in his book, right? this won't all be a surprise, but i think that the prosecutors will be asking detailed questions under oath, assuming that this doesn't g

the only person saying that donald trump will be arrested tomorrow is donald trump, and trump's own spokespersonhey have not been notified of any pending arrest. >> over the weekend, the former president spent his time on his social media platform truth social urging his supporters to protest and quote, "take our nation back." >> al: that's right: according to donald trump himself, donald trump may actually be indicted this week! [cheers and applause] and i've got just one thing to say about that: finally! [cheers and applause] and you know what the best thing about it is? it's happening right here in the greatest city on the planet. new york! [cheers and applause] wow, wow. this is easy. you guys are great! aren't you a great audience? [cheers and applause] aren't you the best? [cheers and applause] god, they love me. and i got to say, who would have ever had thunk that donald trump would be brought down by a porn star? all of us, right? it was pretty predictable. but yeah, donald trump paid stormy daniels to keep this story quiet, and here we are, still talking about it seven years later. so t

according to the star witness in the case, trump's own former lawyer and fixer, michael cohen, the trump organization tried to cover up the payment falsely claiming it was a legal expense. shortly after "the new york times" broke the story yesterday evening, the manhattan d.a.'s office confirmed the indictment writing in a statement it had, quote, contacted mr. trump's attorney to coordinate his surrender. trump for his part wasted little time before railing against the, quote, thugs and radical left monsters who indicted him. in a longer statement after that on truth social trump also decried the political persecution and election interference at the highest level in history and just a few hours ago at 2:46 a.m. trump simply posted "where's hunter," once again trying to divert attention away from him and to the son of president joe biden. joining us now live from palm beach, florida, not far from trump's mar-a-lago estate is nbc news correspondent sam brock sam, good morning. it's early, but the president -- we know the former president was up at least a couple hours ago are we seeing a

mary trump gets tonight's last word, msnbc live breaking news coverage of the indictment o donald trump continues right now with ali velshi. this is msnbc's continuing coverage of the indictment o former president donald j trump, time elevation you york, after becoming the first president i u.s. history to be impeached twice, donald trump has made history yet again, becoming th only ex president to face criminal indictment. on thursday, a grand jury vote to indict the former president as part of manhattan distric attorney alvin weiss investigation into a hush mone payment made to and at fil star stormy daniels, in 2016 that indictment is currently sealed that means we don't know the specific charges being levie against donald trump but we do know that bag ha been focusing on a felon charge, of falsifying business records, which carries a maximum sentence of four years it means that he's formerl charged with a crime but there are still severa steps -- in the coming days, the ex president is expected to surrender himself to authorities, after which h will be taken into custody like any ot

trump. this is, of course, happenin against the backdrop of th start of the 2024 presidential race trump's campaign confirmed tha he will hold his first officia rally next saturday in waco, texas. joining me now by phone is m colleague, lawrence o'donnell, the host of msnbc's the last word lawrence, thanks so much for kicking us off at the 10:0 hour what do you make of trump' latest post? he's made a lot of claims an called for his supporters to protest other things in th past we run the, we've heard them is there something different about this particular post thi morning? >> well, it actually, when w think about it, it's consisten with the way donald trump ha dealt with development involving criminal investigations beginning with the fbi searc -- which we found out about fro donald trump that's how we found out. there were absolutely no leaks from law enforcement the fbi made it a point not to wear their fbi jackets there when they were walking aroun mar-a-lago so, anybody who somehow got v

statements and trump, though. meanwhile he comes out and retweets an article um, with with himself and a bat, you know, and alvin bragg. in the context of january six. in the context of what we're talking about, um, that's what we're seeing. i mean, i think they feel like they're on offense here. i think this delay has emboldened them. i think they feel like they've got a fighting chance of maybe beating this thing. uh, and you know, if you just look at what's happened this week, i mean, look, i'm not in the room. i'm not a lawyer, just watching all the players and watch everything that's been said it feels half baked to me, and it feels like there is some something going on. and if you're donald trump, and your preference would be to not be indicted. i would say they're going to be even more aggressive in their in their pr effort here to try to win it. and ryan just a final point. it would seem that at this moment if they haven't really buttoned up this is i can't believe they would have waited this long. but thi

trump. >> they are trying to destroy donald trump because they fear him at the ballot box. >> some republicanson it and the indictment bolsters. >> they have all but assured he will get the republican names and likely win re-election. >> republicans wide berth to defend the former impeached. >> not the time to wind ourselves up and say see, see i told. >> you house committees demand information from alvin bragg about his probe. bragg's office scolded the committees for what it called a quote illegitimate edge curetion into a investigation. bragg didn't indict a former president a grand jury did. >> some will say well, if you are a prosecutor you can get prosecute a ham sandwich if you went before a grand jury. i'm not that cynical. >> any way you slice it, trump again mustered the support of congressional republican. one whipping up ham sandwich for constituents. >> i have already given out ham sandwiches to let the president know we stand of him and get the american people behind this process. >> house republicans approved the touch stone of their policy agenda. a drilling bill. >> we made a

anti-trump apparatus. if any other country was targeting the political opponent of the president, there would be no doubt about what is going on. we are supposed to pretend these folks are acting otherwise. i do not think many are going to buy it. host: if you want to ask questions, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8001 for republicans and (202) 748-8002 for independents. textus at (202) 748-8003 -- text us at (202) 748-8003. guest: there is urgency, it seems, to investigate what is happening. president trump's civil rights are being violated, trump is a federal candidate, the leading candidate for the republican party. you have a local democratic politician trying to jail him. congress has an interest in making sure a major presidential candidate and former president is not turned into a political prisoner. i want to know what the justice department's role in this has been and what changed over the course of five years that they decided to target trump with this unprecedented application of the law

trump and his company, the trump organization, handle reimbursing mr. cohen for the payment to miss daniels. internal trump organization records classified them as legal expenses which help conceal the purpose of the payments, according to mr. cohen who said mr. trump knew about the mieang records. mr. trump's lawyers denyha in new york, falsifying business records can be a crime, and mr. bragg's office may have bent its case around that charge according to outside legal experts and people with knowledge of the matter." again, this is a take by "the new york times" in today's paper. the call-- caller is in las vegas. that evening. what is your opinion about this indictment? caller: good evening. my opinion is that it is a sad and malevolent day and united states america. a past president has been indicted on criminal charges, but yet these celebrities and politicians who participated -- are still un-indicted. neither is president biden for his actions against tara reid. it is just a sad day in our country. this needs to go both ways. if they're going to

caller: let trump be trump, let trump be trump. republican say that all the time.olks, we should not be rejoicing about the president of united states being indicted for a crime. it's an embarrassment. here's what i wonder -- with these justices, mr. trump wants to be tried, the one that we currently have for the one that he advocates for which is no constitution which lets the mob decide. it gets me that the republicans want kamala harris to decide the next election. why are we counting michael cohen and stormy daniels lies but no one says anything about trump lies? we are talking about a cult of personality. one more thing -- if you see a republican today with a self phone, thank them for being a regressive -- a progressive. host: granville, ohio, independent area caller: good morning. i thought it was interesting we have had a couple of callers this morning that talked about a russian hoax and the multitude and millions of dollars that perley cost the american taxpayers. i believe this is old news when that story was the hot topic. it wasn't enough to cover the

trump in philosophy of maga, civilians and politicians alike love them, hate them. trump ushered in a whole new brand of flame throwing politics. there's the left, there's the right. then there's trump, from all political camps, an ideology, the trump style has made its mark on how politics are played. the food discuss president trump was a controversial figure. perhaps. no other american, president or politician has actually been subjected to as much scrutiny criticism and outright condemnation than the 45th president of the united states. but president trump stoked controversy, not only in the us. the former president was well known for his criticisms of china . from fears over tick tock, corrupting the nation's youth and gathering americans data to calls to end. what he referred to as unfair trade deals with the asian superpower. president trump made no bones about his views, that china was a major threat to domestic security. if we didn't get hit by the plague from china, this thing we wouldn't have even of between us. i would cancel this the congress for most of the rallies. i

, doesn't stop trump's attack.ve the fray in a contest with trump, doesn't work. >> i disagree with your premise, jeb took on him harder than anybody, and lindsey graham who is on before his conversion. the bigger lesson for desantis 's you can't beat trump by being a dime store version of donald trump. desantis's early, rise it's far too early to really know, and with max, watch another non-trump candidate appear later in the process, but desantis was kind of a proof of concept, the people were willing to move beyond trump. i think that still true for trump people know that in a polarized society that they can try to whip up tribalism over this and they're trying to pull the scientists into that briar patch what desantis try to do is use a little republican code speak, the sorrow thing is really about -- there's a bunch of progressive da's now, that's a thing in republican based primary circles so he's trying to link it all together without really attacking trump it's a little bit too clever by half and i don't th

notification that trump will be arrested o indicted trump's super pac that out a press release slamming manhattan's district attorney, alvin bragg. this comes after a week of major developments in the da's investigation into trump's rol in the hush money payment made to adult film star, stormy daniels. daniels met remotely wit manhattan prosecutors on wednesday. the same day that michael cohen, trump's former persona attorney and fixer, who is now the key witness in brags investigation, finishe testifying for a second day. in front of the grand jury other key trump white hous figures like kellyanne conwa and hope hicks have also recently met with prosecutor in manhattan just yesterday, sources told nbc news that local state an federal enforcement agencies had also started preparing security measures in new yor in case charges are file against trump. this is, of course, happenin against the backdrop of th start of the 2024 presidential race just last night, trump's campaign confirmed he will hol his first official rally nex saturday that is in waco, texas joining me now by phone is m col

that would be trumps crime a misdemeanor. and only if prosecutors can prove he made the payment and falsified records specifically to hide the affairs from voters or the i r s. would it be a felony or more serious crime that could come with jail time? the falsification of records for the purpose of committing tax evasion would be the addition, tional specific crime to elevate falsification of business records from a misdemeanor to a felony. so he need, he needs a thing like that. complicating any prosecution koans former legal adviser, a trump ally told the grand jury cohen couldn't be trusted, know, listen if they want to go after donald trump and they have solid evidence, so be it. but michael cohn is far from charlotte evans, president trump has described this case as a witch hi, but it's far from the only criminal investigation he's facing in georgia, prosecutors are looking into his alleged attempt to overturn jo biden's victory in the state in 2020, and several government bodies are investigating his alleged role in the

, donald trump sees their loyalty, and donald trump is never the nominee of the party.hat if he makes it through the primary, having an indicted donald trump going into a general election is the worst possible thing for them in keeping the house. >> i do wonder though, matthew, when we talk about the support of his followers, if you think fundraising it is at all of indicative of enthusiasm? let's remember, in the eight weeks since donald trump said he didn't he didn't lose the election, he raised $255 million. his campaign is saying it raised 1.5 since friday. the numbers are decidedly a lot lower this time around, as you talk about the martyr complex. do you think that is indicative of anything? how do you read that? >> i have been, i've tried to speak out against this for the last ten years. i think the metric of fundraising and the metric of rallies, and i pair them together, are no longer applicable to how voters think, how the voters are going to decide these elections really feeling what it manifests in themself. nearly every single trump endorsed candidate in 20

let's blame trump, let's impeach trump, let's now indict trump. we know what is happening here. this is political vengeance. justice is not blind. there's no longer in this country and i say this with a lot of sadness, equal justice under the law or equal application of our laws. sadly we do have a two-tiered system of justice. it's alive and it's well. we have chronicled it often on the show and especially in the state of new york. on the campaign trail, alvin bragg vowed, he made a pledge a promise, a solemn vow that he would convict donald trump one way or another. take a look. >> a lot of people are wondering whoever has this job, are they going to convict donald trump? >> that is the number 1 issue. we sued the trump administration over 100 times. it's the most important, most high profile case and i've seen the lawlessness that he can do. >> you believe it should happen? >> i believe we have to hold him accountable. >> sean: that's the number 1 issue? you're running for office? to be manhattan district attorney, getting donald trump? that's your top issue over a nondisclos

no, the only person who said trump is going to jail is donald trump. that was on his pretend twitter that we learned he might be arrested on tuesday. that is from him, to the point now where the fbi and the nypd are preparing for potential violence and trump is planning if he's not locked up to do a waco rally, as if he's trying to sort of, i don't know, memify and signal a very dark period and violent one in american history that involved a cult, which he also has. just for a moment if you could talk about how law enforcement should be thinking about this, because you have federal and state law enforcement, they do have to work together because he basically is sort of soft calling for another january 6th. >> i don't think it's anything soft about it, joy. he's absolutely trying to violate the space, trying to implicitly encourage violence. when he says protest, protest, protest, he's not saying anything about doing it peacefully. he knows what happens when he says that, because he knows what happened on january 6th. not only is he going to waco, joy,

but donald trump is not you or me, donald trump is a former president. and he has a lifetim protection from the secret service. so he will be accompanied by the head of his security detail, or the deputy in charge of his security detail. when he submits himself. the secret service began planning for this, now, week ago when they first heard that donald trump was preparing t be indicted. and believe that he was bein warned about a grand jur hearing evidence about him and now they are meeting i earnest, both telephonically tonight, and tomorrow in perso to discuss how exactly this is all going to fall. but the most important piece that he will be accompanied by essentially, an armed guard. who will ensure that he is safe as he perceives through th normal, criminal justice process. but very abnormally, because h is a former president entitled to very special protections. >> glenn, i want you to respon to something that just came in nbc news confirming that the arraignment will be presided over by judge marchand, as w said a moment ago. he is the same judge

tell me all that you hearing about trump world about donald trump saying that he is goin to be arrested on tuesday. >> donald trump's allies hav been preparing for thi possibility for weeks, if no months if following this case closely and as you pointed out, they don't have any more specific information than do you or i i fact, the trump campaign spokesman indicated in his cleanup message to reporters there is nbc news reporting, that made them first aware tha this indictment, if it comes could come as soon as next wee but politically speaking talking only about the politic here, the trump team and his sort of wider constellation of allies have leaned into this moment, have leaned into thi possibility, to be able to cas the former president a standing up against what the see as a liberal, weaponized justice system you are seeing it from trump allies on twitter toda primarily, making th investigation by the manhattan da to the justice department to the biden administration, suggesting as the former president has done several times on social media, and i videos released by his campaig tha

sources within the secret service told us that trump's detail could transport trump at a moment's noticeere's a lot of news developing this hour. we're taking you through all of it donald trump is expected to fly into new york monday night he will turn himself in the next morning, tuesday, that's according to the latest from nbc. we're not expected d.a. bragg to unseal the indictment until trump appears in court we can report that according to two sources familiar with the matter it lists 30 counts of document fraud-related charges our legal friends are here to help us understand what that might mean we saw alvin bragg earlier today walking into the office. mean while, donald trump described seeking to project confidence right now is predictably on the attack, not just targeting alvin bragg, but targeting alvin bragg's wife and other lawyers involved in the c case and interestingly the judge. it should be top of mind for him and us that this is just the beginning. alvin bragg's investigation is only one of four current active investigations into donald trump. it just might be the case th

until donald trump. them about has not deserved to be in the white house. the man who did not deserve to be in the white house also posted today, i think that fox board member rhino paul ryan now put his boss rupert murdoch and great legal jeopardy by convincing him to go against his news anchors and there believe that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen. paul ryan is bad luck for fox. he should resign or be fired. and they're donald trump has obviously decided to cover up the truth about his false friend sean hannity and the out-of-control liar tucker carlson, both of whom said in texan emails obtained by the dominion lawsuit, they never believed a word of donald trump 's lies about the 2020 election. rupert murdoch is frequently referred to as the owner of fox, but as he'll business professor jeffrey sonnenfeld points out, 61% of the stock of that company is owned by other investors. each of those investors is now in a position to bring a lawsuit against rupert murdoch and the fox board for the irr

>> donald trump. >> i'd say trump. >> a lot of trump fans. >> trump and nikki haley. >> donald trumpkki haley. >> so far, a lot of donald trump. i see governor desantis. what about president desantis? >> i like it, i like it. >> who's your pick? >> oh gosh, i don't know, trump or desantis. they both work. >> you're right in the middle? >> yes. >> are you pumped up? >> i am super pumped up. >> i feel like we need a little bit of a break from election election. >> maybe if i go to the woman in the dissent this year, she'll say desantis. and then she equivocate's. poor guy, that's a tough assignment, brian kilmeade, had there! anyway, rupert murdoch, you've built this, buddy. you made this. we've all been suffering the consequences. fox news helped to form this base for decades. they've certainly up for modern american conservatism in all of its present reality, but they also do not control it, and they know that. and now, that central fact on display in the dominion funds, that central fact is the root of just what is so destructive and dangerous about our politics right now. helps low

cohen remained a key grand jury witness in a case that donald trump now says will lead to donald trump's indictment. so what you're about to see tonight in all seriousness not because it's on msnbc and not because it's "the beat," because quite frankly because of the people involved, mr. cohen, will be a part of this legal history and a part of the path that donald trump himself claims will lead to his own indictment. that is just moment away. we always want to give you the context here, the reporting and the legal facts, and i want to chart for you before we bring in our guest, how the president of what comes next hit like a bombshell over this weekend. >> we have breaking news just now, former president donald trump posting on truth social that he will be arrested tuesday. >> protest. take our nation back. >> he's hoping to create fear that there will be another january 6th-type event or his followers will shoot up another fbi office. >> local and federal law enforcement are on alert as donald trump is again calling himself a victim. >> anticipation is incredibly high. will a grand jur

i observed trump. i'm somewhat supportive of trump. but they have made me maga and they have made me ready for whatever is next, because what they are building for young people, i can't, i can't sit by and just let it happen without raising my voice and without william being willing to sacrifice whatever so that kids don't live in a communist marxist society. these people that think the government is going to take care of them don't understand history, that they've never studied history. they don't understand how tyrannical a government is . what if they have their way? i , i if they have their way, we're all catching , except for the elites. and yes, i have a very good bank account and perhaps i'm going to leak. but my heart is working class. my parents were factory workers. i came from nothing in this country. i'm black. they're telling everybody black here, oh, you can't come from nothing and make it in this country. >> that's this country's the greatest country in the history of the planet. it's the safest, most prosperous place fo

he was called trump and the tropics. what does being trump in mean to you? i would say is a far distant observer as somebody who is really not in so political sciences of contemporary us politics. it's hard for republican, maybe a, for the worst of, for people who felt marginalized. and this might be one approach. but honestly, when, when you uh would like to insist on that on a turn like trump is of being trumpia. and this is nothing specific to the us. it's nothing specific to the person of donald trump. because when i refer, for instance to a personality like child goal, and the go list has, is a proper political party. it's a very important party. and this is nothing specific to the u. s. or, on the contrary, you will find it in many countries. look at the family also. next school and indian gandhi, his daughter, the congress party. i mean, if you will find that in many huge democracies, whether it's india, whether it's france or political personalities, have had that imprint wister name on a political party on or on the movement. do you think other righ

trump. >> you know, what's interesting is to your point, donald trump's attorneys were blindsided byere donald trump was actually praising the grand jury and saying look, i have new respect for this grand jury. they're not going to indict me at all, and obviously, the a.g.'s office was stealthy about making sure they had no idea that it was coming even though he previously predicted he was going to get indicted. do you think he was genuinely shocked and really believed he had beaten it? >> yeah, because again, donald lives in donald's head, and the fact that you had people like tacopina and people like bob costello and a whole slew of other pundits on this station as well as other stations telling you, for example, bob costello went in to testify, all of a sudden, he's now impeached my credibility. obviously, we know that's not true in fact, nothing that he said clearly changed anybody's mind however, they have the same thing with tacopina. he comes out there and says, well, after donald of course puts it out there that he's going to get indicted last tuesday, rakes in another $2.5 m

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tell us more about how trump's -- post shake -- >> donald trump's post, richard, are exactly, moving back up, donald trump's posts are inspiring the acts of violence that are being carried out in his name. the threats. violence. and this is exactly what donald trump wants. i have zero faith that he is going to stop. a leopard doesn't change its spots. this guy has priors going back to canada trump with this type of record. i have a lot of faith, though, that the criminal justice system will survive this test where former president is under multiple investigations. and by the way, this is not for anyone to celebrate over or destroy for. our justice system affords donald trump if he is a criminal defendant, every right that every other person in the justice system has. which means equal protection under the constitution and dual process under the law. >> with your experience with impeachment trials, where do you think these particular cases are now going? -- we thought something would happen this past week in new york city, with jack smith, who is moving straight ahead. you can see he