we're going to go back to trymaine lee -- >> oh [ bleep ]. hold on. >> do we have trymaine lee? >> oh, [ bleep ]. >> we have someone on that phone. okay, control room, figure out what's going on with trymaine lee and let me know. ryan riley, going back to you here, there seems to be some action on the street where trymaine lee is, and he can't join us on the phone. what you're describing is a classic case of false arrest. i've heard both of the accounts of you and "the washington post" reporter who were arrested, and we can only hope that your journalistic enterprises, the huffington post and "the washington post" take false arrests seriously as an inhibitor of press freedom and that they bring false arrest lawsuits against these police for what they've done. we're -- i'm told trymaine lee can hear us. what's going on in your location? >> reporter: police are marching forward, there's nothing but smoke in the air. they're marching on. >> what do you think those noises are coming from? >> reporter: they're stun grenades and tear gas. the entire street is filled with smoke. i can'

let's see -- we just had trymaine for a moment at the truck location. trymaine, can you hear me? >> i can hear you. >> thank you. i'm alive. >> i'm here. >> trymaine, thank you. i want to ask you from your vantage point, having watched this unfold over the course of tonight, what's the pace of things right now, and what's going on between protesters and police as far as you can tell? >> so far, it's calm, and the last few nights if i've learned anything at all, anything can happen at any point, so i don't want to jinx it and say it's so calm then something crazy happens. right now it seems coming off of yesterday, they're almost more organized. there was a moment when some community leaders defused a situation in the middle of the street and called for young people to maintain calm and order. right now, the police have been lining the streets for a while in small groups. again, it's been a peaceful night between protesters. they've been energized. just a minute ago they came by again still chanting loudly in unison. so far, so good. everything seems calm. >> trymaine, am i right

trymaine, we know that you will be out there again tonight. the mood tonight really depends on captain johnson and local officials, but he's got to coordinate with this police chief who released the report in such a precipitous way. >> his presence has made all the difference. but also again, tonight, as last night, minus the military apparatus, that makes a huge difference. when you had the military vehicles out here, you almost forced a standoff. without that standoff, people are free to roam and they told me last night, they feel a sense of freedom. they can express their rights and protest peacefully. and so while people are angry, you don't have that element that you had the night before with what seemed to be a very adversarial law enforcement apparatus. so even though in ferguson when night falls under these conditions, you never know what happens. if last night was any indication, perhaps we can expect some peace and calm tonight. >> reverend, what community work can be done with captain johnson and other officials to try to heal the w

let's see -- we just had trymaine for a moment at the truck location. trymaine, can you hear me? >> i can hear you. >> thank you. i'm alive. >> i'm here. >> trymaine, thank you. i want to ask you from your vantage point, having watched this unfold over the course of tonight, what's the pace of things right now, and what's going on between protesters and police as far as you can tell? >> so far, it's calm, and the last few nights if i've learned anything at all, anything can happen at any point, so i don't want to jinx it and say it's so calm then something crazy happens. right now it seems coming off of yesterday, they're almost more organized. there was a moment when some community leaders defused a situation in the middle of the street and called for young people to maintain calm and order. right now, the police have been lining the streets for a while in small groups. again, it's been a peaceful night between protesters. they've been energized. just a minute ago they came by again still chanting loudly in unison. so far, so good. everything seems calm. >> trymaine, am i right

msnbc.com national reporter trymaine lee and who have both been on the scene in ferguson, missouri. are other reporters feeling nervous about the situation escalating further like it it did last night? >> i think at this point, earlier this morning it was the calm after the storm and already people are starting to gather. you can hear behind me the horns are honking and people are still chanting, but with all of the leaders in the country with their eyes focused on ferguson and with the world watching and with all of the media surrounding this town to see how it will go next, with will politicians saying that now is the time for peace and it's time to demilitarize the situation, you know, people hope that it will be calm, but once night falls who knows what will happen? >> i was always thinking why don't people protest during the day? they have jobs. they have to go to work and they have to come home and be able to express their own amendment rights to protest. >> president obama met with eric holder and now the department of justice is offering tactics. is obama doing enough? >> th

but apparently, michael brown was -- >> trymaine, we are looking at the video right now. it's lacking in detail. it's choppy, but we have that video right now. it apipears to confirm exactly what you just described. >> that's a critical point. as part of the release you have four images that don't tell but a slice of the story. i spoke with the witness' attorney. the witness within feet of michael brown when he was killed and he did confirm that when they went into a convenience store, michael brown did steal a pack of cigarillos, mini cigars but there was no strong-arm robbery, justice a theft. the images and video may add to context and structure around this story. as of right now it's still not clear exactly what happened in those minutes right before michael brown's interaction with the police officer. >> tell us about what this video shows to you as an fbi profiler. >> well, first of all, it's an absolute tragedy that this young man died and nothing is going to change that. secondly, when we look at this, we see an apparent shoplifting and a strong-arm robbery. i mea

it's a very critical moment for what happens moving forward. >> msnbc.com's trymaine lee.hank you so much for joining us and for your great reporting this week. >> thank you. >>> we're keeping our eyes out for that presser and of course when it comes up, we will bring it to you live. up next, though, some violent images and show of force out of ferguson, missouri, this week that's calling attention to the weapons used by local police forces. one lawmaker is pushing to change that. he'll join me next. cond. unlimited. as in, no limits on your hard-earned cash back. as in no more dealing with those rotating categories. the quicksilver card from capital one. unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase, every day. don't settle for anything less. i'll keep asking. what's in your wallet? i'll keep asking. wherever morning takes you, take along nature valley soft-baked oatmeal squares. oatmeal. cinnamon. softly-baked. nature valley soft-baked oatmeal squares. this is charlie. his long day of doing it himself starts with back pain... and a choice. take 4 advil in a day or

trymaine you have been doing incredible reporting. we appreciate it. it's invaluable, especially last night. so the missouri governor holds a prochbs. we played a clip. he said that people in ferguson would notice immediate differences because he's bringing in the state highway patrol the to oversee the security situation. he said immediate differences. he said police would, quote, step back a little bit. going forward right away. now a few hours later are there immediate differences that are apparent and noticeable? >> the most apparent and noticeable is now they have a black face to put on a law enforcement apparatus. until today you saw hostly white county police officers, mostly white ferguson police officers manning the front line of this contentious battle between protesters that dug in and they will fight for justice for the death of michael brown. law enforcement are getting all the ire from the crowd. i spoke with people earlier. they said he was walking through the crowd, talking to people. he grew up in the area. we'll see what happens tonig

trymaine lee is joining me.ou see the de-escalation on the streets and what are the reactions that you're getting? >> reporter: that was part of the misconception in the beginning. people heard the national guard was going to be in town and assumed they would be lining the streets and patrolling. their primary duty was to blockade the command center where the county police and missouri state highway patrol have been gathering at their command center. you can't really see it on the ground where the heart of the protests have been. you don't notice it until you get down near the command center and that's where they are pulling out now. >> are you getting a buzz from the people you're talking to about the seeming shift from the actual shooting itself and the focus on the police to the question of the prosecutor who really seems determined to stay on? >> well, certainly. you see all of the next steps coinciding together. we're shifting to the news of the prosecutor in the case and the step-by-step. people are welcom

trymaine, you first, then amy. give me a sense of what you think will come tonight.question i asked chris hayes, what aren't we seeing with the pictures we're all getting on television? is there more of a story personally, anthropologically, sociologically, is there something more you can tell us about the community out there? >> i think we're on day 11 right now. one thing that's taken me, the protesters have been emboldened. mind you, they've been tear gassed every single night, been barked at by police officers. the military-like police, came out with their s.w.a.t. team and armor. life here is getting difficult. they're blocking off the roads. there are checkpoints. though the crowd is smaller now, they're emboldened and loud and still marching. that's what the takeaway of the day is with the developments in the case and the step by step we're going to be following closely that the people are still out here, still chanting and still pushing. >> this is a blanket thing, but something i want to reiterate. the people here are amazing people and good people and very

. >> joining me now from ferguson, trymaine lee, reporter for msnbc.com. the situation behind you any way looks peaceful. >> reporter: it's certainly peaceful. on one hand, it's always the calm before the storm. i don't want to jump ahead of myself and say how calm it is, but it's very much like it was last night. we're going into the second week of protests. while people are tired, there's been gassings every night, there's been constant growling, but they're still at it. again, we have a couple more hours and we'll see if that element that people talk about, if they emerge and if we will see a repeat of last night and the night before and the night before that with the militarized police and the gas. as of right now, it's peaceful. there are two checkpoints, one down the road, and another right when you enter the road here. so police are locking folks in. it seems to be having an impact on the crowd. it's thick out here but not as many as in days past. >> craig melvin got to ride along with captain ron johnson today, talking about those tactics they've b

>> trymaine, the headlines have been highlighted by "the washington post" reporter and huffington post reporter detained last night. also images of an al jazeera crew being teargassed. you've been a reporter in the field there. is your sense that police are blocking journalists from covering this story? >> my sense in any situation like this is not a matter of law enforcement trying to block the work of journalists, but they are not here to facilitate our psychie i seeking of the truth. and we have to remember that in this situation last night, whether there was a reporter in the crowd or a grandmother or teenager, we were all part of this crowd that the police felt they had to beat back with teargas. neutralize with sun grenades and rubber bullets. so it seems that this situation hasn't been handled in the most smooth manner possible. journalists have been caught up. so have innocent people. there have been some protesters that have leaned toward the more violent, volatile side. others peacefully. we're all kind of caught up in this entire mess. >> trymaine lee, thank you for that. >>

and trymaine lee joins us now.ce started, the program has taken a pause while the choir sings. as i understand, they are waiting for more people who want to attend to actually arrive at the service. >> oh, certainly. up until the last 20 minutes they had locked the doors but there were still hundreds of people outside hoping to get in. several minutes ago, a bunch of motorcyclists came up and you can hear the roar of their engines outside. people are trying to get inside but it seems they may be getting close to capacity. there's been a huge turnout so far and still more folks wanting to get in. >> trymaine, the family will lay him to rest today and after that, have they asked, you know, just for a time to grieve privately? i know they are being comforted by the parents of trayvon martin. do we know anymore regarding what their next steps are? >> clearly their next steps will be the kind of long journey towards healing. they've asked no interviews today. their family attorney will be speaking for them but certainly

tryma trymaine lee, you are over at the quick trip in ferguson. what happened today with the revelation from this private medical examiner, dr. michael baden who we know as the veteran medical examiner of new york city. and he was brought in by the family and reports that there were six bullets and that two were the fatal bullets, the two to the head. what does that tell us, the position of the bullets, the fact they went in through the back of the head? how is that dispositive from what we at least know from this private medical examination? >> right. these are actually really critical developments. for the last week, people have been filling in the big spaces between where the law enforcement left open with their own rumors that the young man was shot in the back and elaborate on the circumstances around his death. now we know he was shot at least six times. the last two shots into his head seem to be the fatal shots. the forensic doctor said that he could have survived any of the other ones. the gunshots came from an angle where his head must h

trymaine, you've been following this investigation. the open status of the investigation, the lack of charges at this point, how is that weighing on the services today? >> not so much how much is it weighing an the services but it's playing in the back of everyone the mind. the longer this drags out, the more people will fill in with the answers and supply their own. so far people are setting the case aside and allowing this family to mourn, allowing this community to mourn. all of them coming together. but still once the service is over, we're going to hit a critical point. we're going to move into the next phase which will be will charges be brought against officer wilson and the grand jury will determine that. >> another development looming over this investigation is this "new york times" story over the weekend about just how michael brown's body was treated in the hours immediately following his shooting. that's really sent people reeling. everyone i know really reacting to that in an intense way. it seems like such a sign of disre

. >> trymaine, one of the more alarming reports that we're hearing is a report of a spike of sales at gun stores in the st. louis area. firearm sales are up by 50% on tuesday and metro shooting supplies in bridgeton says sales are through the roof and amazingly high. that is a very, very troubling sign. is that something that you're also hearing? >> reporter: yes. what this is about really is fear. i spent some time in a wendy's yesterday and even employees there were concerned. they look next door and see the amassing of police vehicles and police officers in military-style fatigues so there is a real fear here. so the fact that people are buying guns shouldn't be surprising. they're arming themselves, they are concerned. when you look at what we're putting out on news, every single day we're capturing throwing tear gas and firing rubber bullets into crowds. angry crowds chanting "kill the police." it's such a tense environment. a cloud of fear and tension mixed in with the haze of tear gas is penetrating every corner of this community. >> and the backdrop obviously of this, trymaine

. >> trymaine, do you think you should be moving to a safer location right now? don't want to keep you on the phone if you need to move. >> reporter: in this circumstance, i'm not sure what a safer position would be. i'm going to try to find something, so i would -- i'm going to try to find some clean air and look forward to being in touch with you. >> trymaine, do that. get in a better position and we'll check in with you later if we can get back to you. >> reporter: sounds good. >> trymaine lee from msnbc.com reporting from the street in ferguson, missouri where tear gas has been being used for at least the last half hour. joining me now is a resident and director of the naacp legal defense fund and jim cavanaugh, retired special agent in charge and msnbc law enforcement analyst. this is -- we're seeing some extraordinary things happen here tonight. but they're not things without precedent in american law enforcement history, and the incidents in this country where police have clashed with communities. the 1968 kerner commission report where they found virtuall

and we're moving along. >> trymaine lee, thank you very much. >>> all right. we are live from ferguson, missouri. peaceful team out here so far. people walking around and chanting. hey, man. exercising their first amendment rights to peacefully assemble. for now, things are calm. there is tension in the air. we'll be live for the hour, so stay with us. .... [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets. [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. [ coyote howls ] how about no more surprises? now you can get all the online trading tools you need without any surprise fees. ♪ it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. it's just common sense. just you...with the when gray creeps in do you lose it all? not you. new touch of gray mustache and beard >> this law-abiding protesters. and ask the force s of peace come out and protest before the sun went down so they would not serve as shields for the lawbreakers this the night. tonight, w

trymaine lee is reporting for us youths side the church where this all took place. we still don't have those answers, everybody. goldie, raul, jalani, we don't have those answers but this is the first time at least i've seen. this is the first time i've seen at least on a national level us see ferguson -- maybe not us "see" ferguson but maybe to "show" ferguson for what the larger community is and wants right now. >> that's true. i contrast here is striking. one, have you community leaders, have you people from the community who are out, largely peaceful. but also very resolute about what they want. and then on the other hand, you have seen very little especially in the last few days of thomas jackson. you've seen even less of officer belmar, the county police chief. and they still have -- with the exception of giving the information in the video, we don't know how many times this young man was shot. because that simple question is going to go to the heart of what happened here. if we find that he said at the beginning it was more than a couple, and we have estimate

joining me from ferguson, trymaine lee, reporter for msnbc.com. you've got some rain there tonight. what else is going on there? >> reporter: not much. the rain has been steady, not too heavy. but you can't see behind me, but it's relatively thin. there's a small but committed group marching up and down through the rain. but ever since last night, it's been quiet and calm. there are only maybe a couple hundred people out here, maybe. very thin crowd tonight. >> we do have live video of the area. there isn't much to see as you say. is this kind of where the rhythm of this felt like it was going tonight, into a quieter night there? >> reporter: it really did. from last night, the police shifted tactics. instead of creating lines, forcing people inside, they allowed people to move freely. even when it got a little chippy later in the evening, when one threw a bottle, instead of gassing the entire place with everyone in it, the peaceful protesters, as well as those getting chippy, they targeted individuals and physically extracted them. they maced one person and tackling another one, th

trymaine lee and midwin charles and eugene, thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. >> still ahead, what do we know about the american who was allegedly killed fighting for the terrorist group isis. are there more like him? that, plus president obama's tough promise for those responsible for executing an american journalist. also a jaw-dropping new report of police departments literally losing military weapons. like m-16 assault rifles. >>> and republicans tried to score cheap political points with a video game straight out of the '80s. we'll have our own "politics nation" version of the game coming up. ♪ ♪ tigers, both of you. tigers? don't be modest. i see how you've been investing. setting long term goals. diversifying. dip! you got our attention. we did? of course. you're type e* well, i have been researching retirement strategies. well that's what type e*s do. welcome home. taking control of your retirement? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right. are you type e*? so factors like diet can negatively impact good bacteria? even if you're healthy and acti

>> joining me now, msnbc.com national reporter trymaine lee. i thought that moment with antonio french there, i mean, i was on the scene and it just, you could feel it. >> right. >> it's like this. people kind of ready to kind of pounce. >> right. >> and what happened was that the police chief came through, and i thought that account by antonio french was so important you have representation, we'll make sure justice is done, be patient. that's not the situation in ferguson. >> no. this has grown so much bigger than michael brown, 18-year-old killed in the street. all the stings and hurts instigated on the young blacks every single day whether in a criminal life or not. to step in and say we are your voice, finally, have your back, essentially, there's a huge leap from where they've been, where there wasn't representation coming town to tacome ing down to talk to them, have church leaders and community groups. you have folks actively engaged. because this group has been disjointed from the rest of the mainstream even in the community, this is a

. >> joining me now, trymaine lee, national reporter for msnbc.com who covered the events in ferguson extensively. here's my feeling. the national media aim to one, in some ways, random metro area suburb, st. louis county. >> right. >> with 100 cameras for 2 weeks. and you've got at least four police officers essentially caught on camera doing really awful things and a bhumpunch mo unnamed and it's almost as if a random audit. the thing i can't help but thinking, there's two ways to interpret this. is this area particularly bad in terms of the quotient of police officers who act like this or is this just normal and happened to have the cameras pointed there? >> this is the proverbial tip of the iceberg here. this is what we've seen with media from all over the country and all over the world. imagine what we're not seeing. people in these communities have said this all along. when mr. isom says there's tension bubbles up from the communities, the community says you're right. they say every time we step into the streets we're dealing with these kinds of police officers. a lot of them ar

. >> trymaine, what is the mood now on the streets where we saw ten days of violence? >> i tell you what, i think people are quite frankly tired. night after night of being gassed. night after night of facing police rubber bullets, police are worn down. last night we saw a strategy by the police department. rather tan throwing tear gas, they circle had crowd, went in and aggressively physically removed people. maced people. last week there is still a very tin uous balance. things change at night. so we will wait until tonight to determine how cool people's heads are. >> one thing that's amazing to me, and i've been involved in civil rights and cases like this all my life, i have never seen what we saw today. an attorney general actually on the ground and in a city that has been torn around a legal case, to really let the people know that they have a hands-on inquiry. freeman bosley, you've been a mayor, you've been a lawyer. this is unprecedented. i can't remember a sitting attorney general coming into a scene like this. >> that's right. and reverend al, that's what is

i'm going to talk to someone who knows the history of ferguson, plus trymaine lee who has been doing incredible reporting here on the ground. that's ahead. general contractor. what is going on, you know, in the police department, it will work it's way out. it will be taken care of. >> you have faith in that? >> justice is going to be served regardless, whatever i say, whatever anybody say, i'm just like i said, one of ten supporters in the police department. the majority of the officers know me by name. i've been here for years, where i live at. i like people -- >> i talked to people at a coffee shop where friends were organizing, they were handing out t-shirts, i heart ferg, i heart ferguson. joining me to talk about this is jermaine lee and john lee, with assistant superintendent of the ferguson school district. let me begin with you mr. wright, i spent a few hours today with folks who were at this staging center. it was predominantly white. not exclusively, but predominantly white, people seemed like all of this it landed from mars. they had no idea there was this much anger, this

a big difference him being there and what we had before. >> trymaine lee, thank you.e will cover the story throughout the day. >>> eric holder is going to ferguson tomorrow. same story. president obama sent him there. he will oversee the federal investigation of michael brown's shooting at a hasty press conference yesterday, the president spoke on the situation in ferguson. okay, we don't have that bite. >> thank you, t.j. >>> front page of "the washington post." gene, this is another one of those situations that this president, all presidents find themselves in, but this president especially. so he sends eric holder so the right wingers are going to be angry he is sending eric holder. the left wingers are angry because he is not coming himself. if he doesn't send anybody, then everybody goes, this president is disengaged. >> it's a total no win situation. >> it's tough. but this is not a hurricane where he comes and he is welcomed by everybody. this is a tough situation that the president -- >> right. >> we have seen this with race before. this president has been ext

. >> reverend, i appreciate trymaine's point there. it felt to me yesterday in reporting it felt like a place of calm before the governor spoke and the imposition of the curfew itself may have been part of what encouraged the push back against the curfew. am i reading that wrong from here in new york? >> no, i don't think you're reading it wraucong at all. what the people need is information and not restrictions. more restrictions are not going to help the situation. we need information and demand information and we should have information on what's going on, the investigation should be transparent and the more restrictions they put on the people, the people are riding. the people have not been heard. their voices have not been heard. so, yeah, it seems like we're farther restricting our first amendment rights to speak. so, no, the curfew is not going to work. the people need an opportunity to express their anger, express their rage in a peaceful way and i say, again, in a peaceful way. but what we need is information, not restrictions

. >> trymaine, are you hearing anything about the midnight curfew?ard any details about whether it will be pushed back at all or adjusted. right now it's still firm. a lot of the people i've spoke with, the issue with the interaction with the police before michael brown was killed was an issue and that that's part of the problem. now with the curfew enforcement, there is even more interaction that may exacerbate these tense situations. >> let's talk about the confrontations last night. what did you see? i know you were out there. what happened? >> reporter: so, about half an hour before the curfew, you know, folks were heading home. a lot of people said they didn't want to risk being arrested or put themselves in any danger. by the time midnight came around, from our vantage point at the far end of west florence avenue, you barely could see any protesters except for journalists and some police. but around 12:30 or a little around that time, you started to hear a dim and a chanting in the far distance and you looked about 200 yards away and you saw a

. >> trymaine, do you feel that the peace we saw last night right after the attorney general's visit of things calming down, there was also bad weather. do you think that's a signal that things are calming down and shifting from the streets to the policy debates or was it some thunderstorms in the attorney general? >> i really think it's the perfect combination of everything. you had torrential downpours and excessive heat along with the fact that people are tired, protesting for going on two weeks now. you have the attorney general bringing hope and things that the federal government is here. it's a perfect combination. also a shift in police strategy. they hadn't been as aggressive and violent are with protesters as they were the night before. we are at a tipping point and a turning point. we are, indeed, seeing a shift of the pressure back into the system. so moving forward, i'm not sure if we'll see the flare up of what we have seen before. if what we saw last night is an indication, i don't think we'll see what we have seen in the last week. >> we'll leave it there. thank you fo

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at one point msnbc.com's national reporter, trymaine lee got caught in a cloud of tear gas. he said he felt the effects even though he was further away than most of the protesters. >> i can barely breathe. my nose is burning, my lungs are burning. my eyes are burning. you just can't escape it. the further back you go, it still hangs in the air. it looks like the police have taken over completely at the end of the street. but again, far down the street the clouds of tear gas kind of engulfing everything. >> two reporters, ryan reilly of "the huffington post" and wesley lowry were arrested. both say the police were acting aggressively. >> let's go. >> i'm working on it. >> stop videotaping, let's grab our stuff and go. >> i have the right to videotape you, sir? >> let's go. >> you see me working. please do not tell me -- >> time to go, let's go. we're down to about 45 seconds. let's go. >> reilly tweeted this picture just before he got arrested. both reporters spoke to msnbc after their release. >> i said, officers, i'm going to need to stock my bag, give me one second at whic

my colleague, trymaine lee, happened to be here last fall to cover how black and latino students are affected by budget constraints and told to go out of their school districts and now they're returning to where they should be going to school. >> what do we know about what some of these children are doing during the day when they're not in school? >> that has been a main concern. i spoke to several parents who said they don't know what to do. they didn't plan on this. they have to go to work. they anticipated that their children would be -- >> and we should note, we're in an area where a lot of parents can't really afford to take time off from work to stay at home with their kids. >> exactly. it's a huge issue that's having many different ripple effects on the community and families around. >> what about the teachers, what are they doing? >> the teachers are preparing and they're wanting to give a safe environment and make sure that the kids feel that they're able to speak out, to take this and harness it in a way where they know how to protest in a way that's peaceful and also in a