stacey fitzmaurice: tsa did, sir. john katko: did anybody from outside tsa share in making that determination? stacey fitzmaurice: so, sir, as part of our typical process when we look at information and we look at individuals who may have some nexus to terrorism, we oftentimes will consult with various law enforcement and intelligence community partners. john katko: did you do that? stacey fitzmaurice: we do that regularly as part of our process. john katko: just so the question's clear, did you do that with respect to these 73 individuals that have potential -- the tsa has made their own determination that they don't pose a threat? stacey fitzmaurice: tsa reviewed all of the 73 records on these individuals, determined that they did not pose a threat to transportation. that is part of tsa's kind of... -- of day in and day out process. but every time we understand that someone may have a potential nexus, they may not be designated as a known or suspected terrorist, we do, do that consultation with the -- john katko: i

tsa is comprised of 46,000 officers. 20% of the tsa employees are veterans. that's a good thing. i would like to see that increased your tsa screens nearly 2 million passengers. 2 million passengers each day 60 -- 660 million each year. that is enormous challenge and task that screens one point one million checked bags, 3 million carry-on bags for explosive items on a daily basis. tsa use more than 700 advanced imaging machines at airports nationwide. tsa is responsible for security 25,000 domestic flights per day 2500 outgoing international flights per day. it also secures 4 million miles of roadways, when hundred 40 million miles in railroad tracks, bridges and tunnels, 350 maritime ports, and pipelines. it is an enormous challenge. we need to recognize that reality and again, take a look at this problem, it is one of a significant challenge. and talk about it as honestly as possible. >> thank you for bringing us together today. thanks to the witnesses. thank you for your attendance and your preparation. few federal agencies interact with the american people more than tsa. men

gal supports tsa's move toward risk-based screening. tsa must do two things. first take more rigorous steps to ensure that each layer of security works as intended. second put systems in place to continuously monitor their effectiveness. over many years gao has reported weaknesses in tsa's oversight of its screening systems raising questions about whether tsa is falling short in its ability to ensure aviation security. tsa has taken steps to improve oversight of the systems. the secure flight program matches information against federal government watch lists to identify those who should not fly or receive enhanced screening. second, the a i.t. systems, the full body -- full body scanners used to screen for items at prohibited checkpoints. the management screening process, which t assay uses to provide expedited screening to passengers not previously identified as low risk. first of all regarding secure flight, we founded september 2014 that tsa did not have timely or reliable information about the extent or causes of system matching errors, which occur when se

with tsa.both getting equipment that's outdated, getting the wrong equipment, too much equipment stored a warehouse and an ongoing problem. is it getting better? >> it's hard to determine that at this point. certainly, the kinds of work that we have been doing shows that this is a continual problem. we just did a report, for example, with regard to tsa maintenance contracts where it's about a $1.2 billion set of contracts over a course of 4 years in which tsa doesn't have the ability to understand whether or not routine maintenance is being performed or whether they're being billed for things that occurred. >> basic sustainment. >> correct. >> okay. what's happen og tning on the procurement side? vendors know there's a large market. is there a good standard of improvement there to say this piece of equipment is 2% better? is that enough to be a multi-million, multi-billion dollar contract? how are the standards for procurement coming out to affect the effectiveness? >> this is an emphasis area

tsa is comprised of 46,000 transportation security officers. 20% of the tsa employees are veterans.ion passengers each day. nearly 660 million every year. that is an enormous challenge and task. tsa screens 1.1 million checked bags, 3 million carry-on bags for explosives and other dangerous items on a daily basis. tsa used more than 700 advanced image technology machines at airports nationwide. tsa is responsible for the security of 25,000 domestic flights per day, 2,500 outbound international flights per day. it also secures 4 million miles of roadways, 140,000 miles of railroad track, 600,000 bridges and tunnels, 350 maritime ports, 2.6 million miles of pipeline. again, it's an enormous challenge. so we need to recognize that reality. again, take a look at this problem as one that's a significant challenge and talk about it as honestly as possible if we're going to really find solutions. with that, i'll turn it over to our ranking member, senator carper. >> thanks, mr. chairman. thanks for bringing us together today. our thanks to our witnesses. good to see you all. thank you for

>> tsa. >> did anyone outside of the tsa make that determination? >> sir, as part of the typical process of looking at information and looking at individuals who may have nexus to terrorism we often times will consult with various law enforcement, and intelligence community partners. >> did you do that? >> we do that regularly as part of the process. >> with respect to the 73 individuals with potential ties to terrorism according to the tie database tsa made their own independent determination they don't pose a threat? >> tsa reviewed are all of the records on the individual and determined they did not pose a threat to transportation. that is part of tsa's day in and day out process. every time we understand that someone may have a potential nexus they may not be assigned as a known or suspected terrorist. we do that consultation with the ic and other law enforcement. >> just a brief yes or no. did you consult with people outside of tsa before making the determination that the 73 individuals who are on the tie database don't pose a threat. >> yes, t

tsa is responsible for vetting people. aviation workers themselves are a diverse group of people who play different an important roles. from the person from the person who works at the newsstand to a mechanic who has to access the plane itself to perform his or her duties. but these two people have in common is they both go to work every day everyday be on the checkpoints in a secure area of the airport and we must do everything within our power to make sure people who work in these areas are exhaustively vetted before employment and on a recurring basis and prove themselves to be trustworthy. lastly, the department of homeland security office issued a report the details of 73 individuals with links to terrorism were able to get jobs and able to access secure areas. first, we should be grateful to the inspector general for bringing this to our attention and to know that this thread was out there, think about what could have happened should be all the motivation you need to work together. that is why we're here today, not t

tsa is obviously part of that. i can't speak to sort of how it's working on the current acquisition process but it is something that frankly remains a challenge. i will say for example that is a single vendor so there is no competition in the market for the significant capital purchase. >> there are seven of the people that are now basically authorized to go through at some point point there are different variations. we need to change the name to something else because we have a large number of people that are really not being pre- checked. >> that is correct for people that are selected at the airport these are not individuals that were previously identified as low risk and so tsa's premise is that they are providing the real-time threat assessment through the use of the explosive detection but we have raised concerns about the lack of effectiveness of data and during that time we found that they were not consistently using the explosive trace direction as the protocol called for. so there is the need for more att

decisions and as such former tsa administrator signed a memo a memo in 2014 supporting the tsa request and receive for the additional data. may allow tsa to assist the intelligence and law enforcement community identifying previously unknown associations. aggressively pursuing automated access to the data and working to expedite the process to complete the request. tsa concurs with all recommendations and are taking steps to address them we will be including a requirement for investors to include verifying an airport betting offices review records and legal status publishing guidance kemal regulated airports to ensure the airport betting offices deactivate the badges probably when an individual's temporary authorization to work in the us ends and working with airports to analyze the miles based upon legal status, validate the reason and issue guidance to airports to address any weaknesses complement the steps. we we recognize the value of complete and accurate information and will continue to identify areas for improvement. i look forward to answering your questions. >> thank you for y

how does tsa do that? one of the things i would like to examine is what is the way that tsa indoctrinate's or provides a culture. there is a tsa academy i don't know how well attended it is. and then engaging overtime. we live in an age where it is easy to communicate with people. i don't accept the premise that because you have a widely dispersed workforce that you cannot communicate all the time. we do this in the coast guard. i cannot touch every sing a member of the coast guard everyday, but i can assure myself that are plugged into the organization. i will look for ways to do that. i will connect leadership to the front line organization. one of the big factors is how different -- distant is your leadership from the people doing the work. i don't do the work of the coast guard anymore. the frontline men and women are doing the work out there. how do they know that i have their back and am providing the tools and training that they need if i do not listen to them. those are the things i think about, co

they have to do that to tsa standards. tsa overseas that.mmentators have said that is what we need to see across the country. have someone else more customer oriented, to actually be the boots on the ground. host: gene from arizona. thank you for holding on. caller: i had a bad experience with tsa one year ago, and i'm afraid to fight again. i had a golf bag, it hard cased golf bag with a security strap on it. the only people who could open it was tsa. when i got home, there was a note in the bottom of the case that it had been expected -- inspected, no one signed it. what happened was a tore my bag apart and store everything. i called tsa, and they gave me a form. guest: obviously, there are incidences that occur when flying. whether it is tsa, the airlines whatever the case. there is a claim service that you can fill out combo when you were fine, what airline you were flying. in some cases it will be tsa's faults, in others it will not. they have a pretty good process, it but complicated because of the size of the systems they have. depend

tsa, and homeland security officials testify. this hearing was interrupted because of a bomb threat. >> good morning. we will come to order. we will welcome our witnesses. you are very thoughtful. we looking forward to your written testimony and/or oral testimony. this hearing is necessary. i think it is unfortunate that some information was leaked prior to our ability to come to the analyzer. we want to make sure that as we are asking questions that we do not reveal classified information. the fact of the matter is if it will solve any problems we have to recognize the reality. we have to describe it. the purpose of any hearing is that in the end, following the hearing, every member of the audience takes the first step towards solving any problems -- that includes admitting we have one. i have been thinking about the struggles of tsa since it was first established. understanding that it has two missions, and they are completely contradictory. on the one hand, we're looking for 100% security. that is in all public transportation.

have in tsa. i think you need a third-party group to come in and take a look. i think the tsa has lost a little credibility in this realm. having them take a look at the checkpoint and having the training being done. do we have the right technology? and if we do not, what is the right technology? i think it needs to have a comprehensive view. having a third-party look at it i think would be a step in the right direction. host: the incident that happened last week, the of questions about how tsa operates or questions, here is your question. democrats republicans and independents, and if you want to tweak us, you can do so at c-span wj. 43,000 screeners so far. tell us a little bit about who gets selected to be a screener and what technical aspects do you have to bring to the job. guest: u.s. citizen, high school diploma or ged, and then you go through a rigorous background check process. should all of that check out, it is obviously the location of the airport you are applying for. all of that chec

. >>> coming up the tsa plans to keep america safer.e have that for you next. >>> simply stunning testimony from the inspector general of the department of homeland security. john roth appearing before a senate homeland security committee slamming the tsa for a host of shortcomings including the tas failure to detect 73 tsa employees were hired. we get more from cnn's rene marsh. >> reporter: on capitol hill serious questions raised about whether the tsa is capable of protecting the flying public from terrorists. the agency is struggling with low morale faulty airport screening equipment, officers failing to detect weapons and fake explosives. and inadequate vetting of airport workers. now lawmakers are calling for a complete overhaul of the agency. the tsa was not at this hearing but the department of homeland security inspector general was. he told lawmakers, quote, he is keeply concerned about tsa's ability to execute its important mission. those are sobering words from the government auditor behind a scathing report revealing tsa cl

it wasn't a tsa that saved the day.he diaper bomber it was the passengers and crew that saved the day. the times square bomber he called on his cell phone, ordered his ticket on the way to jfk, went through tsa, got on the plane. >> on top of that, the tsa is such a lousy place to work that more tlan 50% of the work force has quit. >> the agency keeps losing employees and hiring new ones. >> they're advertising on the top of pizza boxes. >> a career where x-ray vision and benefits are standard. turnover is high not because the tsa is underfunded. it spends ten times what the previous private screening companies spent. micah said he was shocked at how much money they can waste. >> john you don't want to know. i just sent two guys down. they've got a warehouse in texas and they have hundreds of puffers that didn't work. >> remember these? they cost $150,000 each. and were supposed to detect exp but t but they didn't work. >> they sat in warehouses and they paid i think $600 apiece for d.o.d. to destroy them. >> sot tsa wa

that is bad even for the tsa. that's really bad.and what we heard, it's not these stealth cia agents is super ninja hiding skills. these were normal investigators smuggling stuff through. it's a lower competency of attacker which is even more alarming. yeah, there's a lot of thoot theater here and it's not a lot of good theater. >> tsa said the policies have been corrected. what do you think needs to be done the fix the system here. >> it's hard to know without knowing the details. we know that modern plastic explosives are hard to detect. they don't have metal in them. it's easier to bring a weapon through if you split them up manage pieces. there are lots of ways through airport security. smart bad guys are going to do them. really airport security catches the dumb ones. the smart ones are going to pick a blot that gets through the procedures. >> and we had jason son on here not long ago and i asked him if we were near a time when no bags would be allowed on flights and he didn't have a comment. >> it's all a matter of are we will

if tsa's screening equipment is failing in not doing the job, that's a larger systemic issue that tsa needs to address. >> well erin tonight dhs will not say what action were taken, only saying that several actions were implement, and many of them are now in place. they also point out that what happens at the security checkpoint is just one part of their layered approach to security. also you know many of these tests are intentionally made difficult so that they can find the vulnerabilities. however, one former tsa official says that a 95% failure rate is just way too high. as you know tsa has received millions and millions of dollars from congress. and today just a short time ago, representative jason spent me this statement. after spending $540 million on baggage screening equipment and million morse on training the failure rate today is higher than it was in 2007 erin. >> that's pretty atrocious no matter how you look at it. renee, thank you. >>> "outfront" tonight, republican congressman john mica. he sits on the oversight and transportation committees. and he co-authored the 2001

however, our review showed that tsa has had to deny credentials for over 4800 applicants because tsa determined that they did not prove their lawful status despite the fact these individuals have previously been through the work. tsa relied to submit complete and accurate aviation worker data. we identified thousands of aviation worker records that appeared to have incomplete or inaccurate biographic information. he made six recommendations in the report. we will follow up on the implementation. thank you for inviting me to testify today. i look forward to any questions you are other members may have. >> thank you for your continuing professionalism. we appreciate you being here. our 2nd witness deputy assistant administrator for the tsa office of intelligence analysis. division director for checkpoint solution and integrity division within the tsa office of security capability. tsa efforts to identify, acquire, and identify acquire, and manage state-of-the-art technologies and capabilities that screen passengers at us airports. prior to beginning of federal career she held managemen

so, i think, how does tsa do that? one of the things i'd like to examine is what is the way in which tsa indoctrinates -- provides a culture? there's a tsa academy. i don't know how well it's attended. over time, what are the ways in which you can continue to engage with the workforce. we live in an age where it's very easy to communicate with people. i don't accept the premise that because you have a widely dispersed and geographically dispersed workforce, you can't find a way to talk to them. i do have all the time. i have a workforce that works in small unit teams. can't touch every single member of the coast guard every day, but i -- but i can assure myself that they're plugged into the organization. i'm going to look for ways to do that, if confirmed in the tsa. i'm going to find a way to connect leadership to the front line operation. my experience one of the other big factors of morale is how distant is your leadership from the actual people doing the work? i don't dot work of the coast guard anymore. the coast

how does tsa do that? what is the way that tsa indoctrinates or provides a culture? there is the tsa academy had not know how well attended that have deep engaged with the work force? we live in engaged it is easy to communicate with people i don't except the adp to shore where the dispersed you cannot find a way to talk to them. we do this all the time to work in small unit teams i cannot touch every single member every day but i can assure myself that they are plugged into the organization. if confirmed am booked ways to do that with the tsa and connect leadership to the front-line the another big factor of more route is how distant is your leadership from the people doing the work? i don't do the work of the coast guard any more. the coast guard does the work that people on the front line. how do they know i am paying attention and i have their back to provide them with tools and training if i don't teenage? that is what i look to while i connect to the work force and then met what i said -- i meant what i said about commitment to excellence and service to the nat

when they were setting up tsa. is it too late to go back? >> no again, have the competition between the tsa and private contractors. >> so give people a choice. >> and the government can oversee it in terms of having certain requirements met, as they do in managing the airports where private contractors have done a more efficient job, even though they pay the same amount of money. let's have the competition. get the brains working. >> are there's the forbes answer folks. you got it right here. eric what do you got? >> hey, david. the supreme court ruling for not hiring a woman wearing a religious head dress. should companies have the right to hire who they want? we'll debate it. plus, a high school principal says he's okay with a teacher using russell brand clips. wow, we'll see you at the bot m of the hour. >> up here first, are you a lawmaker too drunk to drive? call a 24 hr hour car service, all paid for by taxpayers. the forbes gang on that outrage coming next. i'm a teacher. let me tell you what i make... i make learning a privilege. no

tsa employees. this hearing is an hour and 20 minutes. >> this hearing will come to the order. >> this hearing will come to order per cry will welcome the admiral and we appreciate your willingness to serve considering your nomination for the position to his vacation security administration we had an interesting hearing yesterday and i thank you come into this position understanding you have significant challenges ahead of you and we are looking forward to the hearing today. we're looking forward to your oral testimony and answers to our questions. i will hold off on further comments. also the united states postal service and other agency that will require a lot of the box thinking so i just want to thank both nominees for your willingness to serve in that i turned over to the ranking member. >> thank you for your service you have anybody with your family here today? some brief comments thank you for joining us yesterday also in to take the measure that tsa has been now with the leader since the end

. >>> shocking failure at the tsa. representlica bombs and weapons smuggled past check points across the country. the tsa leader this morning ousted. details on the shakeup ahead. >>> introduceing caitlyn jen. now sharing her story from transformation from olympic hero to transgender. everyone is talking about the photos. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. we start with breaking news. rescuers scrambleing to save survivors after the boat capsized in the storm. crews report hearing sounds through the hull and trying to reach passengers they believe could be trapped inside. chinese state media reports just 14 survivors have been rescued. more than 400 people on board. among the rescued, the captain and chief engineer in police custody. let's get the latest from ana coren. >> reporter: crews are desperate to save 450 people when the boat julian assange on the on the yangtze river. the cruise ship was traveling to chongqing. it was hit by a cyclone and capsized

something by law the tsa cannot require. all this comes on the heels of last week's bombshell announcement that undercover agents snuck mock explosives and weapons through security check points 95% of the time. >> the balance that tsa seeks every day and the agency seeks is how do you facilitate the free movement of people and goods with the best security and then using results such as this in a way that helps improve all that? >> reporter: and so just how dangerous were those 73 workers? well, that part of the report has been read active. back to you. >> what's the tsa acing about this? >> reporter: -- saying about this? >> reporter: the agency said they'll address it later on this year, we're live at san jose international airport, kiet do, kpix 5. >>> california's public utilities commission has reportedly disciplined about two dozen managers related to dealings with pg&e. a "san francisco chronicle" says none of those managers was suspended or fired. it stems from thousands of e- mails between the puc and the utility. cr

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. >>> shocking failure at the tsa. replica bombs, weapons and contraband all smuggled past check points at airports across the country this morning. 95% of it got through. tsa leader is ousted. >>> introducing caitlyn jenner. now sharing her story of transformation from olympic hero to america's highest profile transgender person. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. we have breaking news. a frantic search underway on the yangtze river in china. rescuers are scrambling to save people after the cruise ship capsized in the storm. you can see them tapping on the hull trying to reach passengers they believe may still be alive inside. chinese state media reports just 15 survivors have been rescued. among them the captain and chief engineer now in police custody. i want to bring in anna coren. these are elderly tourists taking a scenic river tour between two well known cities in china. hundreds of them missing. >> reporter: 400 people. more than 400 people unaccount

now, tsa says it is fixing all of these issues. despite the weaknesses the report says tsa's vetting process is generally effective in detecting links to terrorism. john, christine. >> it is innfuriating that my sippy cup is a problem at the airport, but there are employees with links to terrorism? >>> and oscar pistorius free too early? that is not sitting well with the family whose daughter, reeva steenkamp, was killed. lara® helps me be in season. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and increase your risk of infections. some serious infections require hospitalization. before starting stelara® your doctor should test for tuberculosis. stelara® may increase your risk of cancer. always tell your doctor if you have any sign of infection have had cancer, or if you develop any new skin growths. do not take stelara® if you are allergic to stelara® or any of its ingredients. alert your doctor of new or worsening problems including headaches, seizures, confusion and vision problems. these may be signs of a rare potentiall

what is the way in which tsa provides a culture? there is a tsa academy. i don't know how well attended that is. i would like to look at that opportunity. over time time with what are the ways you can engage with the workforce. we live in an age where it is easy to communicate with people. we do this all of the time. i have a widely disbursed workforce and i cannot touch every member of the coast guard every day but i can assure myself they are plugged into the organization. so i want to look for ways to do that if confirmed, in the tsa and funed -- find a way to connect leadership with the front end. how distance is the leadership from the actual people doing the work. i don't do the work as a coast guard anymore. the coast guard does that work. they are on the frontline. i cannot provide them with the tools and training they need if i don't listen and engage them. those are things i look for as i look to connect with the workforce. in my opening statement, i have learned about commitment to excellence from the people doing it on a daily bases. i continue

for transportation street officers at the airport that's the face of tsa also the mission of tsa andtheir the ones who accomplish a. you need to train them and empower them to accomplish the mission and then listen to them when they're telling you where the mission whether fairly or where procedures or equipment or the like are not aligned them to meet the nation. yadkin valley that workforce and the support that workforce. you need to have their backs. i had a great opportunity to sit down with a dozen tsos over at reagan airport as part of my briefings in preparing for this potential position. they were very frank. they understand the mission. i always remember they are still among the very few who raised their hands and said i swear to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all foreign enemies. iremind people of that niche connected to a mission that that begins the upward movement. you also have to have accountability across her workforce. the people performing well know the people who are not performing well. if you allow those, that inconsistency to ex

we didn't have a tsa. and you could walk through and a lot of people look at this and say i don't know if we are safer for all of the billions we have spent on this. i interview john pistol the former head of the tsa in september because we were alerting people to the fact there were issues back then and this is what he said about the attack efforts starting from oversea overseas. >> every plot since 9/11 came from overseas so there is no terrorist trying to get on the plane in the united states and that is because they see the united states as being one of the most secure aviation systems in the world. >> he is saying all of this security is a deterant scaring people away. and he is saying the attacks as efforts came from the underwear bomber and richard reed who were flying outside of the country. but those people were taken down by alert citizens on the plane in both cases. no protection other than that. >> we want people to be alert because that can be a help. we absolutely have to work with foreign al

bound aircraft. >> reporter: the tsa also stresses it has a layered approach to security. from the moment you buy your ticket and your name is compared to the terror watch list to the curb to the airport where you have police k-9 to air marshals on board. they call it a curb to cockpit approach. >> all right. tom costello tonight, thank you. >>> now to the battle over collecting your phone records and other surveillance programs that the government can no longer use for the first time since right after 9/11. those powers went away at the stroke of midnight when senate infighting allowed the patriot act to expire. is national secure more important? and did the programs work in the first place? here's nbc's andrea mitchell. >> reporter: the boston marathon bombing or last month's attack in garland, texas, by two men allegedly inspired by isis. neither was prevented by the nsa's mass collection of phone records which they call an invasion of privacy. exposed by edward snowden who said last week, in not a single case had mass surveillance produced information that made a concr

is it time for a tsa overhaul do you think? >> a real scrub down. it's time to give tsa more power.e power to have the full backgrounds and social security information. >> that makes sense. >> they have to have the power to site if necessary, close an airport or airline if they don't comply with security. it is important. the system is blinking red again. there's so many threats. the fbi asked for local police to help them catching terrorists. if they don't comply they have to shut them down. they do that once people fall in line. >> we looked at what happened with the secret service. we know the head of that was forced to resign. we see the acting chief of the tsa has been ousted. when the head goes you know things will change. is this a culture that also needs to change? >> it is a culture that needs to change and they need to support people who get tough on the lapses. they put us all at risk. americans go through tremendous things at check points that airport workers don't. >> i was going to say that. we are down to the bare minimum, yet, they -- that doesn't register to most of

this is consistent problem with tsa.f it or a lot of it is redacted, so we don't know where the qualifiers are. >> that's the problem, exactly. >> it's time that the american people are leveled with about the kind of security we're getting or not getting for our money. melissa: for our money is right. we're talking about an agency with a $7 billion budget for next year. maybe better off privatizing this? >> $7.3 billion budget, 3.7 is going to checking us. all the machines is check us and these people are coming off the list, check off employees of the tsa. regardless how it's defined, there is a list that the department of homeland security and the tsa who reports them are not talking to each other. that's a bad issue. >> everything on the list because of the actions. melissa: that's a very important point because of the ig states the tsa is not authorized under the watch listing policy to receive certain terrorism related category codes, that means that the tsa doesn't necessarily have access to the watch list? aren't

the tsa says it expects to address the issue later this year. >> the balance tsa seeks every day and dhs seeks is how do you facilitate the free movement of goods with the best security and then using results such as this in a way that helps improve all of that. >> and, of course, all of this comes as the tsa faces more scrutiny. last week, you may recall, it was revealed that undercover agents were able to sneak mock explosives or weapons through tsa checkpoints 95% of the time. anne-marie? >> don champion here in new york, thank you, don. >>> new surveillance video shows the fatal shooting in boston of a man suspected of plotting to kill police. rahim is seen walking through a parking lot early in the morning on june 2nd. he's surrounded by six plainclothes officers who draw their weapons. police say two open fire after rahim refused to drop a knife. he had been under surveillance and allegedly planned an attack on police and talked about beheading anti-muslim blogger pamela geller. >>> president obama is home following the two-day g-7 summit in germany where he said training for i

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and if you are a threat to tsa, that means other systems have already failed. including your intelligence gap. here is the other thing people don't want to remember at this point. having the tsa there is also designed to be a deterrent and it is supposed to make the traveling public feel more confident when they get into the airport. the result like this won't have that effect. >> 96% failure. think about that. that is incredible. 96%. >> it was so striking a finding that i learned today that secretary of homeland security jay johnson, once he got these findings he was able to have a brief with the forward head of the tsa who retired earlier this year and to say what the heck is going on here. >> i would fire the head of the tsa. i don't know what i would do at the airports tonight but anyone taking off on a flight out of any airport, 96 times out of 100 they are missing stuff. >> it is not a good number. they say you have to see the numbers in the context but i can't think of any context where the numbers -- >> let's say 90% failure -- >> i think everyone reco

there was a hearing on the tsa, the transportation security administration. some of of the recent very embarrassing lapse, failures that have been adopted by the inspector general of the department of homeland security including some 70 or 80 employees of the tsa who clearly were not thoroughly vetted they were on the terror watch list they had jobs and were allowed into sensitive areas at airports across the united states. there was a hearing that the chairman of this committee was holding and he had to cancel or at least postpone that hearing. i think senator johnson is joining us live. senator, can you hear me? >> sure can. wolf how are you doing? >> good. where are you now? >> i'm in the russell rotunda. right now it's just the third floor of the dirksen building that was evacuated in an orderly fashion. the capitol police will doing an excellent job. apparently they're searching different rooms because there was a threat, a suspiciousus issuspicious package so they're doing their job. >> as far as you know there's no all clear that's been given yet? >> n

this is a mess the tsa situation.o you have 70-some people in our airports on this list. >> a 90% failure rate in terms of tsa's screening. now we find out that 73 airport workers may have potential ties to terrorism. this is totally unacceptable. we'll be having oversight hearings. we need to revamp' the tsa process. i think we need to look at prioritization. and there is no leadership at the tsa right now. we have a nominee that hasn't been confirmed. and most importantly it puts americans at risk because we know al qaeda and in the arabia peninsula still want to put non-metallic i.d.s on airplanes. martha: we spent an enormous amount of money on this tsa program. we bowment equipment that doesn't work that's in storage rooms. this was everyone's fears from the beginning that terrorist groups would flag people to work in our airports. they would in different capacities. this terror watchlist has 1 million names on it and it doesn't seem to work for anybody. >> the 96% technical failure and human error involved. the

bill: the tsa had an embarrassing two weeks. reports of agents slipping weapons through the screening. senator ron johnson thanks for coming back to "america's newsroom." this seems to be a battle between security and efficiency. something has got to give. what did you learn in that hearing? >> the tsa has the dual goals of being efficient so nobody misses their flight and also being 100% security. it's not working. we need a top to bottom look at how the program is working or not working. bill: i want to take you back to yesterday's hearing. there is a couple very relevant points. this is john roth with homeland security talking about red teams. >> the red teams are not yours and the leaked report is yours. >> i can't confirm or deny the specific results or the methodology by which we did our testing. we don't identify ourselves as red team, these are auditors we use who are members of the inspector general's office. bill: the auditors are accountants that work for the government? >> when i met with inspector general roth in my

report late today, it says quote tsa concurs with all six tsa recommendation of i.g.uch of a consolation, neil, but the i.g. report does say that the multi layer process for vetting agents was, quote, mostly mostly effective. >> doug thank you very much. >>> all right. the republican senator says you don't know the half of it. he wants the president to talk about all the tsa failures. senator, you are privy to a lot of that information. i guess you're tempted to share it you can't right now, because it is you know classified. why is it important that it be declassified? what do you think we'd glean from that and why do you think we should learn about it? >> i think the president has a moral obligation to come clean with the american people about the fact that washington is not doing its job. obviously, we don't want to do anything or declassify any details that would give the terrorists a road map to the particular vulnerability. but the problems that we face are much worse than the public understands. and i think the president has an obligation to come clean and lead

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