but the turks have from the very beginning requested that the suspects that they believe to be behind the murder of jamal control should be extradited to turkey if not for questioning going to if not for standing trial then at least for questioning and obviously that's something that has rejected wholeheartedly but also human rights organizations and other groups have been worried about the transparency with regard to how the saudis have been dealing with this you mentioned in the lead up to this story as we were reminding our viewers of how it transpired the amount of inconsistency. were in the saudi now it's are from the very beginning would make it very difficult for anybody maybe see some sort of credibility courts or judgment being handed out with regards to this case from the saudis who are the key culprits or suspects in this so free look at the fact that the saudis denied that she was still in the consulate and insisted he had left then denied knowing where he was then denied that he was killed then denied that he was killed on purpose and said that actually it was by accident

and the think here is that also turks also americans and also russians should basically communicate and solve this problem together i suppose we also have to take into account of course that the u.s. has demanded that turkey guarnteed the security of the y. p g the kurdish groups and coordinate any military incursions with washington do you think that are is essentially going to budge those demands because no its strategic game seemed to be at odds with those of the other key players in the region. well and corey is totally disappointed that from what is going on from their perspective maybe bolton is not representing the president because president from the same something else and bolton is saying something else from turkey's perspective there is no distinction between k. and p y d from their perspective this is a terrorist entity and they want to clear dishearten corydoras the whole in order to syrian corridor from this entity and this is a huge headache for them and of course the question is here whether russians will permit turks to enter d.c. area or whether. he why there will

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different contradicting himself that's all nice and fine we're used to it but the region is and the turks don't know how to react to damascus government is confused the russians are confuse the iranians confuse and lo and behold the american people finally found out who the kurds are because of all of this so it's just not the confusion in washington it's creating confusion all through the region go ahead sob in london. one of quite frankly i think the americans never had a policy they wanted to have a regime change in syria that's as far as they can think off anything else after that i don't think anybody knew on the american side they have no idea about the kurdish problem they don't know the differences between the various fick kurdish factors they don't know anything about the so-called isis and other islamist terrorist groups they don't know anything about the syrian free army but they feel they where they are the power that has the power it has the plane it has the voice that can make and it can threaten turkey and it actually did so a little while ago when they imposed economic pro

but not for that medical exam going even for the syrians the turks as far as they're concerned this is a domestic problem which they have to resolve it and america don't even understand the difference between the various kurds whether that in iraq or in syria and turkey they don't know the movement and they're willing to decide they have a design to made could dish movement some of them are good some of them are bad just as much as they were doing with the islamist movement some of them out of good muslims and some of them out of bad muslims this is not the issue the issue is their medications started to change their regime they decided not to because they can't or for whatever reason the situation is staying as it is the turks are determined they're not going to allow the kurdish problem to be an issue for the national security of turkey and they're not going to use force they are going to use force even if the americans stay there now americans have to get out for a variety of reasons including money because. being saying he says he wants money he doesn't want anything other than

problem is no order the united states i think the turks problem is with the russians and the syrians will ask turkey not to do it and i think both those countries are not interested in having turkey. launch a major incursion into syrian territory right now but we'll have to wait a few days to see how that plays out the iranians certainly support damascus and russia but they are going to remain as they absolute for a crew most of this crisis since late december largely silent well the us secretary of state has arrived in riyadh on the latest leg of his middle east tour micron peo will be holding talks with saudi crown prince mohammed bin sound than they are left for riyadh from cata which has been blockaded by saudi arabia the united arab emirates bahrain and egypt since june twenty seventeen he called on the countries to end their disputes saying it's gone on for far too long. has will. mike bomb paling qatar where the message to the gulf countries and their dispute the west political crisis in decades for the gulf cooperation council president and i both believe the ongoing dispute

in this case, it is a through lot between turk and there is no address on turk that would correlate to the location of this poll. it further confuse people. if we gave an address on turk, it would be an address across the street. that i can see the confusion here. i cannot speak to the permit holder and the use of baker, but that is how it got to that convention. which is confusing. i was confused too. i was looking at all the questions at all the pictures. >> we just had an appeal on that block at our last hearing. >> so the planning department, they did properly review the subject application. the tier be noticing it is on an excellent street. i can put on the map on the overhead. could i have the overhead, please. there we go. so the subjects is located right about here. there is a small line which is our arm. it is not actually designated as any specific use street, but when we do have on turk to the east, for several blocks, it has lion to the south. it is also an excellent street. the poll is just right at the corner there on the north side. we are doing --dash reviewing the desi

, it is that the turks willjust go in there and slaughter them. —— the current worry of.the enemy, to ask for protection. this situation is escalating in not such a good way, but what i thought was good was that the spokesperson and adviser to erdogan met with bolton and he also met the chairman of thejoint chiefs of staff ‘s in the us, and he also met with the nt daesh tsar. —— anti. let's not take a look at the i. mps revealed death threats, via this they have been facing. all women and one black mp in the —— one black mp. in the middle, anna soubry, revealing the harassment she has faced this week. it is really shocking, isn't it? it shows one thing, it shows how incredibly divisive this whole brexit debate is and how it gets under the skin of the political dean of the country. what happened to our country? we used to stand for stability, this is not stability. no, absolutely not, and we will have more on that later. let's talk about the world bank, we have discussed and unpacked their prognosis for the world in 2020 that this article on bloomberg is talking aboutjim y

said well hold on maybe that's not the wisest thing the turks say that they're not going to talk get a kurdish civilians that in fact in previous years and throughout history have actually welcomed kurdish refugees they've cited for example already one did this in parliament earlier when they brought in kurdish refugees after some. soon have used chemical weapons against them in northern iraq and what their fight is only against what they describe as terrorist organizations the americans because of obviously all the regional implications and impacts on the view that they need some sort of going to with regards to what turkey will do. for inside story. well let's bring in our guests now any thumble off man searched research director at the institute and a former advisor to turkish prime minister. in washington d.c. nicholas jan fourth a fellow for the bipartisan policy center is national security program and here in doha we have marwan director of policy analysis at the absentia for research and policy studies thank you all for joining us on inside story on earth in istanbul if i can

even the turks actually wanted very much the united states to withdraw from that asian because they want to strike against. the concert of the kurdish fighters on the concert sternest even turks actually they don't want the americans to be in the how do you to withdraw why because that if the americans withdraw quickly from the region that would put them actually in direct contact with the russians with the iranians and with the syrian regime and that is something that the turks are very much prepared for so i think that the the withdrawal of the delay of the withdrawal would allow at least a key to get prepared for replacing the united states in certain parts of that part of syria and of course it would allow other other of the other players in order to see what they can do about that is about it or. is interested in seeing what they can do about the u.s. withdrawal and how do you expect the countries to prepare and how is this going to play out you know are turkey going to attack the kurds in the north is iran going to go ahead with its plans to create the sort of you know shia crescen

defense minister mattis had done a very good job of trying to keep the turks and gazed in very close and the conversations over months and years to manage the relationship the work of ambassador jim jeffrey was intended to accomplish that same kind of objective i'm afraid this tweet if it's taken seriously in the turks will treat it as if it were serious will just make this the relations more difficult and make the year ahead for both countries extremely extremely difficult we've had contradictory statements from various members of the town of administration in your mind is there a coordinated strategy from the white house. i think there is a strategy of personality to be honest with you there's mr trump's strategy there is mr bolton strategy there is mr peo strategy and so far those three don't sound as if they are coordinated and that is the difficulty and so it could be uses the allies if he says everybody in the region it confuses the american city but it gives his supporters that mr trump some party so i think that's the difficulty right and on the ground what could be the impli

provoke the turks oel either. so if the turks say the kurds have provoked us, that they could possibly move into that territory. however, looking at the situation on the ground, i've done a lot of reading up on this, and it really seems as though the entity most if and we u.s. finalizes that pullout of syria will be once again the russians and the government forces of syria that they back there already in negotiations with the kurds to try to move into that territory. >> fred pleitgen in moscow. thanks thanks. >>> we are in day 24 of the longest government shutdown in u.s. history. 800,000 federal workers no closer to receiving a paycheck. the office of management and budget preparing for the possibility this could last through february. president trump holding of on declaring a national emergency at the border for now. his senate ally lindsey graham floating this idea to temporarily at least ease the pain. >> i would urge him to open up the government for a short period of time like three weeks before he pulls th

now objectives that we want to accomplish that condition the withdrawal we don't think the turks what you want to take military action that's not fully who was mated with and agreed to by the united states so that they meet the president's requirements that the syrian opposition forces that have fought with us and not endangered well what we are hearing at this stage is that john bolton has been here in jerusalem meeting with a number of israeli officials and giving details of a hard the u.s. withdrawal from syria will work we have heard him say that there will be no timetable and then for the first time we're hearing a condition that turkey must guarantee the safety of the until not u.s. backed kurdish forces now all of this follows the surprise announcement last month by the american president donald trump that he was withdrawing american forces from syria take a look so our borders our young women our men they're all coming back and they're coming back now there will be a strong deliberate and orderly withdrawal of u.s. forces from syria very deliberate very orderly the turkish pre

the turks are ready to fill out of the vacuum. your previous commentator just said they want thirty two kilometer security zone this is problematic for the syrians because the syrians want to control the whole territory however this can be negotiated and i think russia has a main role to play here in the fight against terrorism i mean you've mentioned. you've mentioned the turks that turkish presence he's offered to handle security as you mentioned in the region in a phone conversation with don't jump on sunday how likely is it that the u.s. except and effectively backs on the kurdish fight is. this is the this is the confusion in the american administration for so many years they paid a lot of money and they put a lot of effort to support the kurdish forces in the northern part of syria and now they want to abandon these kurds and so they want to find a balance between the two and it's a very difficult balance to find and i think the main role is the role to be played from moscow in order to resolve the situation so i think it wo

the turks have folks in seer ya. we want to make sure those in syria are not attacking, terrorists are not attacking turkey from seer ya. we're fully engaged w sa turks and syria to make sure to accomplish all missions. we can do each of things, margaret. >> brennan: among the fighters we talked about, kurdish allies. i want to ask you, you know as a diplomat. the threat of credible use of military force is what gives you power at the negotiating table. how does taking out u.s. troops from syria get you closer to expelling iran. >> margaret the united states of america can project military power from many plays in the world. the absence of a couple thousand soldiers on the ground in syria does not take away from american power and our objectives across the world. that includes syria and into iran if need be. we have the tools. american diplomats have the power and leverage behind sthepl. i am confident in our military capabilities in the middle east. >> brennan: does that mean having troops in nearby iraq fill any pu

northern part of the syrian and that's why i think what putin wanted probably is for the turks to give up an ad lib and to lit the syrian regime take care or take control of it live and other parts of another syria instead of being under the control of the turks and this machine is it taking place in the context of the u.s. and announcing its troop withdrawal from syria which is now saying perhaps less abrupt than we originally was in your original suggested what does is that is that the the main focus for what they may do next and then is that why they're having this meeting in poland well certainly the idea that the turks and the russians feel that they are the ones who could and must fill the void left by the united states in three or four months after it leaves syria of course the united states insists that it will remain engaged diplomatically strategically and so on so forth regarding syria but certainly it has left the kurds its our allies exposed new many of them especially the organized fighting groups are considered by the turks to be terrorist organizations or terrorist orga

which are dominated by kurdish fighters the turks consider the kurdish fighters to be terrorists the russians are not particularly keen on that idea because they don't want the turks to be in syria long and ultimately they would like the kurdish areas to be brought back under government control they would also like it live to be brought under government control but remember there was a deal that was done in september last year between russia and turkey to essentially stave off a government offensive on so that the fighting could die down civilians could be protected and essentially the fighters could withdraw from the front lines it's that deal which might be influx of the moment if the when and putin can come to some sort of arrangement whereby. putin is allowed to take it lead and turkey is allowed to have its buffer zone well then maybe these two leaders kind of found a way to get what both of them wants out of syria at least in the short but that's a big if and we're going to have to wait and see what comes of that meat out of that meeting of course the deal such as that woods pu

talking about the turks are talking about the white b.g. about the kurds so i don't know how they are going to reconcile the other in fact these different agendas in turkey go it alone because they've been saber rattling about going. making sort of presence much deeper into northern syria for quite some time is this saber rattling or can they feasibly do it without political agreement is going to be very difficult for them because they need actually to agree first of all with the americans that americans in my opinion they are not going to pull out and they have the sort of agreement that they got. t. the safety of the allies the kurds in this case in on the ground in syria the turks actually need all saw to agree with the russians on the depth of this zone they are talking about and we have been hearing in recent. weeks that the syrian government the syrian regime the russians they are talking about. activating the other agreement of nine hundred ninety the agreement of nine hundred ninety eight was reached between syria and turkey and wou

on the other hand that the kurds also can't provoke the turks either. that could be the back door for the turks to take some sort of action. but if and when the pullout, it has begun, when it ends, the big power set to become more important than anyone else is probably the russians. apparently they are already in the negotiations with the kurds to try to take over that territory when the u.u.s. leave. >> we thank you for your expertise this morning. >>> and we are in unchartered territory. day 24 of the longest government shutdown in u.s. history. 800,000 federal workers no longer getting a paycheck. the white house office of management and budget preparing for the possibility the impasse could last through february. lindsey graham floating this idea to temporarily ease the pain. >> i would urge him to open up the government for a short period of time like three weeks before he pulls the plug. see if we can get a deal. if we can't at the end of three weeks, all bets are off. >> so not all the republicans are on board with graham's idea. ron johnson oppo

said well hold on maybe that's not the wisest thing the turks say that they're not going to talk get a kurdish civilians that in fact in previous years and throughout history did actually welcome kurdish refugees they've cited for example already one did this in parliament earlier when they brought in kurdish refugees after supper. soon have used chemical weapons against them in northern iraq and what their fight is only against what they describe as terrorist organizations the americans because of obviously all the regional implications and impacts on the view that they need some sort of going to with regards to what turkey will do. for inside story. well let's bring in our guests now any thumble off man searched research director at the institute and a former advisor to turkish prime minister. in washington d.c. nicholas stand forth a fellow for the bipartisan policy center is national security program and here in doha we have marwan director of policy analysis at the absentia for research and policy studies thank you all for joining us on inside story on earth in istanbul if i can

so i'm not sure if he's willing to take the risk without having any further negotiations today the turks asked washington to disarm the y.p. g. fighters in syria there are other open questions they for example asked washington to hand over or destroy its military bases there so all of these questions are answered at the moment and such an operation would also risk further friction with a russia and iran the other big players on the ground in syria so there is a lot at stake and a lot for present out and to think about bill your honner reporting from istanbul turkey thank you are some source now and in soccer's agent cup currently underway in the u.a.e. the two thousand and seven champions iraq have been in vietnam and a five goal thriller iraq twice from behind in a scintillating match adding pressure at the right moment have not been with the game winner as he scored in the final minutes to seal a three two victory for iraq. and egypt has been awarded the hosting rights for june and july as african nations cup football tournament the egyptians edged out of bid from south africa the even

would remain there and the kurds are still there and turks. said that the u.s. has betrayed them and not fulfilled its commitment and broken its promises and so on and each actually do love to hear talk. of the same time syrian government is trying to take over if the americans. do a deal with the troops to come in and to take a chance or it's a very conflict euro area. now this adage in bridge entire surgeons it makes it even more complicated hill and makes it even more difficult to resolve the wood assuring. us it will. really have to see you know how trump reacts as the trustee to see whether he. will once there is a johnson and johnson says ok jonathan good to speak to you are going to have to leave it there is jonathan steele international affairs commentator thank you. now the pressure just keeps piling up on the british prime minister's treason may the moment because the day after suffering the biggest defeat of a government in modern british history over her breaks into four steals she now faces a vote of no confidence to see evening with all the details

the turks regard the kurdish fighters as terrorists. intended to reassure washington's allies following president trump's announcement last month that us forces would be withdrawn from syria. barbara plett usher is monitoring his trip from riyadh. this dispute with turkey over america's turkish allies has overshadowed mr pompeo's trip. he told journalists he had spoken with his turkish counterpart and an agreement might be possible. one that would all other turks to defend their country from legitimate terror threats. it would also protect those kurds who have been fighting the islamic state group alongside the americans and who he said were not terrorists. the turks think they are and have not publicly with rollback plans against them. mr pompeo really wa nts to plans against them. mr pompeo really wants to turn the focus to countering iran. he has court three united airfront countering iran. he has court three united air front against what he describes as destabilising activity. saudi arabia is key to that. outrage over the recent sau

push to get rid of sunni arab rebel fighters in the region as well sounds very complicated what the turks have been saying is that they've agreed with the americans that the americans would would withdraw turkey would fight both eisel as well as the y.p. gee who it's safe should not be differentiated between the true because they're both terrorist organizations the americans even though the president donald trump has said all right we're going to withdraw very quickly suddenly there's been those mixed messages and they include jumble turn as well as other officials. within the u.s. government have said well actually hold up we called really do this because of regional interests that would insist on the americans not to abandon the wife e.g. fall of that's essentially crystallized in this meeting between two one senior advisor ibrahim cullen as well as john bolton and in that they fail to agree on it's the turks a walk if the americans current even agree amongst themselves as to what their strategy is how is the wall going to accept that they're going to be able to play a leading role in f

to approach the assad government in syria otherwise the turks might intervene and might even occupy a larger portion of syria meanwhile turkish president seems to be under the impression or at least is insisting that he actually does have a standing agreement with president donald trump that he is and can take action against kurdish militias in northern syria do you think that he would defy the u.s. and go ahead with the offensive against the kurds yes i think so because for the turkey for turkey the fight against the syrian y p g six is tension because turkey believes that the syrian people's protection units the y.p. g. is an entire world part of the turkish p.k. k. so it's a matter of national security and that is more important for turkey than relations to the u.s. and the country has learned in recent years that even if it opposes u.s. policies in the in the region the united. doesn't react forcefully so there are no consequences so therefore you know they can do whatever they please what i'm wondering though peter is with all this confusion over u.s. withdrawal from syria and we

will prevent the turks from slaughtering was his word of the kurds now that got a sharp rebuke from the turks not surprisingly but that is yet the latest piece of evidence that this is shifted that and without any sort of announcement from the president that that's what in fact has happened nonetheless even if the u.s. stays in place and they have they've been assisting the s.d.f. on the battlefield they've taken additional key towns from isis just in the last couple of days the syrian regime is not all the way in there as they've announced they are so we've got a situation where the fallout has been considerable the u.s. credibility is falling fast even if this withdrawal is cancelled they announce an f. on the strip came in saudi arabia held its first hearing on the case it's seeking the death penalty for five of the eleven suspects but the trial is already been criticized at the u.n. human rights office i can a house more from the united nations in new york. well the un making very clear that a once and independent international investigation into the murder of jamal khashoggi a spok

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syria and to stablish understanding in syria was because there was no direct conflict between the turks and the syrians we had lip. and we had. the kids in the east of the affinities now with the americans pulling out this means that there is a direct conflict between the russians and the turks they're ok come to measure we've run out of time to appreciate your perspective and that of just as well thanks very much indeed gents saree and joshua landis and thank you to you for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com of course and for further discussion just go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a jedi inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story i mean the clock and the whole team here. this is the journey you've been looking forward to the one you've been dreaming about. little take you to those you love to faraway places new faces old friends on a new adventure far from the ordinary in extraordinary comfort come with us in award winning style because this is the jo

they have canceled that maybe doesn't necessarily bode well to the idea that the americans and the turkswere able to find some sort of an agreement usually if there has been some thoughts of an agreement so you would see that's represented in manifested in joint statements being made by both parties and obviously what has been frustrating that harks prior to this visit snake has been the mixed messages that have been coming out from the white house from washington in the past couple of weeks whilst you've had. essentially saying that there will be a withdrawal that withdrawal would be imminent it would take place in a matter of days if not weeks you've then had people like john bolton saying no actually it would be a gradual one it would be contingent on talking meeting such a requirement so giving starts and governance he has and obviously that makes messaging his infuriates and that's our. perceive the presence of the kurdish fighters the white p.g. and affiliates of the p.k. k. that's the separatists for this militia that has been essentially. attacking and fighting the turkish army d

according to the turkish officials he gave nothing he doesn't give any evidence and turks always wanted to know. the content of the interviews the saudi prosecutor's office held with those suspects those suspects whose names we have never heard about so it is important to know the names of those people because. as you know for instance a member a fifteen member hit squads came to kill them out over the second and we know the names of those people for instance one of them was al took bheki who's name who is known to be a forensic expert and the prosecutor's office that to bake it is thought to have this member to mouth to shoot his body. we heard that he was detained in saudi arabia but then we learned that he is living in a villa of a pool far from riyadh duff so. after the turks are suspicious that the saudi arabia will really provide justice for this case especially. after these incidents for instance one of the members of the hit squad albo stein they died in a suspicious car accident according to the investigation reports and turkey right after this murder he went to riyadh so turks

syria and to stablish understanding in syria was because there was no direct conflict between the turks and the syrians we had lip. and we had. the kurds in the east of the affinities now with the americans pulling out this means that there is a day a direct conflict between the russians and the turks they're ok come to this measure we run out of time to appreciate your perspective and that of josh as well thanks very much indeed gents saree and joshua landis thank you for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com of course and for further discussion just go to our facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a jedi inside story and you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle is at a.j. inside stored i mean the clock and the whole team here by phone up. i . if you were looking at this from the outside it would really wonder what was going on but what is this gross is a religion that they have an in-depth exploration of global capitalism and our obsession with economic growth this is still the center of capitalism there

id and and the kurds in general the turks say look we have hammered all of this with trump and my urdu and says my point of reference is not some advisor it's not the secular state my point of reference is the american president i spoke to the american president and we agreed and any agreement should commit both parties to what has been agreed so that's why i think there though on the turkish president is quite upset with the americans because if they keep if propping like this the turkey cannot have a strategy based on their agreement and is there something to be said about the timing of all of this when you have both in turkey and at the same time you have michael pale in jordan starting out in jordan in fact and then going on to a number of arab countries absolutely look i think there are two things happening the same time i think there's one that is called damage control happening on the part of syria turkey the fact that kids died and excluding the iranians from syria so that damage control is bolton is taking care of it with the turks. and then there is what i would like to call

and the way the turks now responding to him i mean. i mean allow me a bit of leeway here this is a man who feels boxed in he feels more and more pressured by the public opinion the media the international community he feels more or more pressured by crises of his own making he hasn't gulf for a little bit of the shutdown and the investigate yes that you know mentally hasn't go for a long time and he says that they're all advocation except me i'm stuck here and he even says i'm alone in the white house would be surprised his i haven't left for months even though he was in iraq just a couple weeks ago but for him leaving means he hasn't been golfing he has been doing vacationing on so forth so i think he's been. sort of getting out his anger on whatever comes out next the fact that he would be asked if he is a russian agent and all those you how much pressure he's under so as soon as something like that comes up like the question of syria turkey or whatever he says things that are so overblown exaggerated in style that i think everyone i

have different interests relating to different parts of the syrian conflict right now now that the turks to one specific me wants to have some sort of buffer zone set up in the north to help protect the turkish border from the kurdish fighters that turkey has long said are terrorists now one thing that was being rumored was whether there was perhaps going to be some kind of deal that these two men could make essentially with vladimir putin saying ok you can have your buffer zone in the north if we were allowed to do what we want with it i couldn't see from what the two men were talking about here that they have reached any such deal when they were talking about the safe zone the buffer zone and said will yes the leaders of these two countries russia and turkey are still deliberating the u.s. is showing its positive approach. with its intended pullouts with russia we don't have any disagreements this area is going to be claims that he still wants to do that but. the russians are saying yes we will help our turkish friends to ensure their security that's what putin said just now but the pr

and what if the turns walk in and say -- or the kurds are fighting the turks and the turks say we have but to defend ourselves. i think even if you get an agreement, my point is i'm not sure it is policeable. >> what about how john bolton has said that u.s. is not pulling out of syria until isis is defeated? how does one determine isis being defeated? >> i don't think that you can do that. i mean one of the things that you will look at is something that we've opposed all along that is when does syrian eforce and syrian government start to governor all those places controlled by isis, which would be us acknowledging that president as ssad will be there forever. if you see the syrians move back into syria, you will still have a question of whether there are pockets of isis, and i think even if the geography changes, that is if the syrians take over are more of the country, there will still be a question about whether there is isis there and whether we have to stay. >> and i want to ask you about the topic du jour, this government shutdown. we've been reporting now and the president will

by doing so the russians and the turks were offered the united states some kind of guarantee that the y.b. you will not be directly targeted immediately as they would draw from their eyes from syria it'll be interesting to see what comes out of these talks will get more analysis from me when that happens a certain baraka thank you very much. singing china's national anthem is expected to become compulsory no hong kong schools the proposed legislation would also make insulting the lyrics a criminal offense critics argue this is a forced patriotism and beijing is challenging the city's core values sarah clarke has more from hong kong. security was quick to move on pro-democracy activist joshua long as members of his party raise the flag of hong kong's government headquarters was the demonstration is over proposals to make insulting china's national anthem a crime we are against it it's because we believe that is not a must for people loyal to the country and loyalty to the region. seeing china's national anthem at a school is mandatory on the mainland now the central people's government

how sure are you that the turks won't slaughter the kurds?> well, president erdogan made a commitment to president trump as the two were discussing what this looks like, that the turks would continue the counter isis campaign after our departure and ensure the folks who assisted in the counter isis campaign would be protected that's what ambassador bolten is there tomorrow to have a conversation with the turks how we will affectuate that. >> do you trust president erdogan personally president trump has gone from considering him friend to foe, back to friend again in fairly quick succession >> my sense all of these things in my world internationally, it's about actions on the ground it's what we actually do commitments are important and making sure we follow through on the commitments matters an awful lot. that's true for lots of parties, including our nato ally, turkey. >> you mentioned you're visiting lots of countries, jordan, egypt, aman, kuwait, saudi arabia, uae, is this the anti-iran tour >> so again, we want great things for the irania

and i think the turks will be open and the fact give to america's recommendations here., turkey is important. the united states a key strategic interest as well. it's important the united states and turkey were together to advance an common interests, specially the defeat of isis. hopefully the turks will be receptive to what john bolton is telling non-and it would be unacceptable for the turks to launch an offensive in northeastern syria that would threaten the kurds. the united dates is going to make that absolutely 100% clear to turkey and it's important that ankara and washington worked together in terms of the broader fight of crisis. eric: what about the presidents do? giving them six months and you know he doesn't want an endless war. is it an endless war or is the deployment of troops in syria similar to maintaining a presence in japan or south korea or germany. it's an important military presence that sent a message. >> it is vitally important military presence and i think it is important that u.s. forces remain in syria as long as they are needed in order to da

what the turks want is they don't want kurdish terrorists for curse security. >> i will go out of orderhis is the one you are referencing, quote, long-overdue pullout from syria with little remaining isis caliphate hard from many directions. will attack again from existing nearby base. will devastate turkey economically if they had kurds. a 20 mile safe zone. we have a response and turkey's presidential spokesman saying donald trump, terrorists can't be your partners and allies, turkey expect the us to honor our strategic partnership and doesn't want to be shadowed by terrorist propaganda. there is no difference and you can see they go on, we will continue to fight against the mall. what do you make of turkey's response to the president? >> if you put those tweets together, the us policy, a permanent footprint in syria. part of the kurdish population, a militia fighting against isis and supporting them for that. they were present a possible security concern in turkey. we keep saying our ally in syria, not really our ally. the issue to me is we don't want another massive humanitarian cat