why in the tagline of the book, i say twitter didn't elon didn't break twitter, twitter broke elon musk because he went from a person that walter isaacson would write a biography about to a person that i believe walter would never write a biography about today. and i think i'll leave it at that and send it over to you, because i have i have like so many questions, actually. but i guess i'll do i'll sort of introduce myself in my book a little, and then we can go back and forth a little bit and then take take your questions. but yeah, because i was i spent most of my career as what would have been like just such an extremely minor character in one of your movies that they would have been written out early. but i'm a journalist and so i had the good luck to be kind of coming of age as the internet totally swamped the journalism business and so started a bunch of blogs early in my career and then was at politico.com covering barack obama and hillary clinton in 2008. and, you know, just sort of feeling the extent to which people were obsessed with that campaign and were kind of maddened by

twitter. do you still post on what is now x, what used to be twitter? i do, and i am a malcontent that loved that place, but even i am waning on it. the engagement is a ton. it's tons of bots or just people i never want to speak to in my life. and the experience is just horrible. it feels broken. it feels like being in a dying mall, but it's full of people in those shops. you know, somebody did i read in an article said that, you know, i have fewer followers on blue sky, much more on x twitter, but i get much more interaction on blue sky. it seems like those people that are following me on blue sky are actually real, and i think that twitter has had a bleed problem for years, that no one's really been able to quantify. where i have 90 odd thousand on twitter, but even as it grew, i wasn't getting that much engagement with blue sky. when i had five, i had like 60 something thousand. now, even when i had 5000 people, it was more lively because the anti bot stuff is stronger, but also people are more engaged. people want to be there. twitter, like many soc

i know for a fact that's a loose case twitter account, just as twitter is 50000 dollars dollars a month. there's a one company just for is twitter. to create brand zelinski and do what they're doing. now we're talking about the entire in full war. and we're talking specifically about a concept called information operations. you're looking at over $100000000.00 a year. the when i go back i had i, i quit. and i did my 1st interview and it went tight and the paper and done. it was a center spread in the sunday times in the you can i tried, i was receiving text messages from numbers. i didn't know you saying you better keep your head down or else and the sound on several occasions. and another one. when i did, my 1st task is archie into the machine. again, i had another one probably say use stop talking through washington is going to be trouble. on august the 20th 2022. a. com below age of a lots of, uh, alexander, dubious. who is it blowing off on the highway in the most go region? the is doing to just was it the wheel she is willing to bring west in general is to dunbar so that they could

the worthwhile parts of twitter have been drowned out by hateful garbage. it is no longer a social media site with a white supremacy problem but a white supremacist site with a social media problem. what do you mean by that? >> if you look at the output of the system as what it does, i think you can look at -- it is difficult to evaluate a network like x or like twitter holistically. we don't have access to the internals, things like that. there is less transparency now than there was in the previous ownership, but i think anyone who spends time on there understands that the types of voices that have been elevated since musk has taken over, but also really in the last six months of the election campaign, the types of people and accounts have been reinstated including conspiracy theorists another white supremacists, you see this kind of content that is really attention-getting because it is in reaching to certain people and delightful to others, and a lot of it is very racist. that stuff is more prevalent on the site now, and it is something that i think mus

-you agreed to become elon's biographer at a high moment for him, before he went on to purchase twitter and become a more controversial figure. -yeah. -he had vast success with spacex. he had also achieved vast success in the production of teslas. -yeah. -as you reflect on the other disruptors in human history that you have chronicled, how does elon musk stack up? -i think if we look at the current modern era, there are three people who are really changing the way the 21st century will be. first was steve jobs, who brought us to the era of friendly computers. jennifer doudna was able to invent a tool, crispr, which means we can change our genetic makeup, design our children. huge. and elon musk is the one bringing us into the era of electric vehicles, renewed space travel, a new form of internet and low-earth orbit, and artificial intelligence that's not just chatbots, but self-driving cars and robots. -when you described jobs' unique ability to just drivpeople towards an impossible conclusion, how does elon's focus and drive and vision compare? -they're very similar in that they both d

that's the way it works on x/twitter. the social media of old where writers could get their stuff shared and build an audience through that. now that's almost impossible. but one reason i think that people like bluesky in particular, which i'm on bluesky. >> same. >> and i enjoy it. yes. it's a place that reminds me of what twitter used to be. it's not an echo chamber. it's not a place where every single person agrees with me. i get in debates with people on their all the time. but it's nowhere near as toxic and i don't have to worry about literal nazis in my mentions. and that's a low bar, but they've managed to so far meet it. >> what do you suppose is behind this idea that some on the right have floated that basically they think that people on the left are required to subject themselves to the abuse of the right otherwise they're anti-free speech. >> sure. well, as i've written in the past, i think that there is something to the fact that reactionaries on the right really need people on the left to troll, to bully, to

. -- elon musk destroyed twitter." martin o'malley is talking about this is a boy who breaks his favorite toys. if the u.s. government is his new toy, given his track record breaking previous toys, what should that tell us ? >> i think there's so much that you can see in the twitter acquisition that's going to play out in the federal government. musk came in with a vision just to slash and burn the budget and really cut back on what twitter was spending. and he did that to sort of catastrophic levels and really cut i think more than the company could handle. ended up having to bring workers back and bring systems back that he had originally wanted to cut. so i think there's a lot of guidance for how this is going to go if you look to the way he's handled twitter. >> i think, julie, the interesting thing for me is the dynamic that has emerged of this -- and democrats and not just democrats, even some republicans, you know, i know have started this co-presidency sort of narrative between trump and musk, particularly give

>> it is very difficult to evaluate a network like x or like twitter holistically.don't have access to the internal things like that. there's less transparency now than there was in the previous ownership days. but i think anyone who spends time on there is the types of voice elevated since musk has taken over, but really in the last six months of the election campaign, the types of people and accounts that have been reinstated including conspiracy theorists and other white supremacies, supremacists you see content that's enraging to certain people and delightful to others. >> yes. >> a lot of it is very racist. that stuff is more prevalent on this site now. >> yeah. >> and it is something that i think musk delights in because, you know, it triggers the libs, right, but it fits into his free speech maxim-less box which is to say anything that's truth offensive is worthy because, you know, it falls under that paradigm. >> well, and it is more than that too, kate. i'm curious what your perspective is based on your reporting here, which is that i have watched people --

going in and examining the twitter files.ut that, we'd have never known the story behind the story. the true story. twitter's moderating regarding the hunter biden laptop and don't have to fill in the blanks here. who was behind that? company communications and fb and i recollects certain senators and twitter to remove content going for him. before that it was one of the journalists that have thornhill tore these contacts and giving the most of it for us and matt taibbi and he joins us next. matt.matt. thanks so much. >> we got the opportunity to work on it and i think the most important part about it is that on the topic of censorship and a whole range of people and allowed people like jim jordan to jump in and going to have a very important launching point and going for the increase. brian: you got blasted for this and going for biden and going to tell the truth and not bringing up the facts that there's rolling stone and the skies are for the democrat and going for them to have conservative and you pay the price for tellin

let us know on twitter and instagram. the nightcap crew including you, next!locks grime deep inside. look at that! swiffer wetjet. >> trace: back with the nightcap crew. tonight topic, lie detector. do you believe there is any situation in which this was not a lie? >> no, it was a lie. as a father one of my son spent six months in my jail, i wish i could pardon him but i would have not. he should be held accountable. he lied. >> an acquittal like, across the board, a white lie, it's a lie. the most devastating thing about it is he lied without blinking an eye and looking into the eyes of millions of people who probably voted for him because of that. >> yes he's a liar, everybody knows that and no matter what, this might have been the time, maybe to save his son, face the consequences, may be changes, it didn't happen. >> she like biden, he's a liar, this was a lie, every time he said it which is multiple times, i turned to my husband and i said, he is going to pardon his son. >> trace: it was a lie and nobody even blinked and i, what do you think? >> as soon a

i after 21 years of the agency to become the director of corporate resilience for twitter. and they are just the tip of the iceberg insured. twitter doesn't just work with you guys to be on. its own departments are swarming with speed, so there's wide latitude that's given to the social media companies when they are choosing who the band who to spend 2 to cancel it a very good co.

whether you're talking tiktok, meta, twitter. these are enormous businesses and you actually think even if frank mccord in theory is trying to do the right thing is there an an appetite for the right thing. when you talk about the people on this thing, they say i don't care who owns it. i just don't want to give up my tiktok. >> we want to give our data for free. i'm, if you use facebook or meta you've given mark zuckerburg your data for free and he's a hundred billion their now. i give to x, you know elon musk the world's richest man my data for free. why do we do this? it's because we like the service, sometimes, i don't know whether we like it. we feel addicted to it and we should get compensated for that. we should share in their profits. that's what i would like to see. and no one ever talks about that. but other places like you know, artists recording artists have figured out ways to get compensated by spotify it's probably not enough. they should be getting compensated more. but people who use meta, tiktok should share on

yeah, look, he announced on twitter that the l announced on twitter that the united states should havet is his forte generally speaking, but he is bringing on serious people in his it ministration will be running his middle east file. senator rubio is a serious foreign—policy player, he will be leading the state to permit if confirmed, but he is going to also have some questionable figures like tulsi gabbard running, becoming the director of national intelligence. she has expressed views that were supportive of a side and very dismissive of his atrocities, which is a problem, so i think it remains to be seen, but i expect that they will engage seriously with the new facts on the ground, or the partners, and i think they will initially maintain support for the syrian democratic forces, although i think trump is going to be looking for ways to withdraw the remaining 900 us troops that are colocated with them, but i don't expect anything very sudden in the early weeks, but we will be able to tell particularly regarding which a site of the trump administration is going to win this out. are

let us know twitter and instagram, we will read your responses coming up. in the nightcap. ♪ ♪ >> trace: we have new information about a disturbing trend on social media as people rally support for ceo murder suspect luigi mangione and his alleged resentment toward the insurance industry, live for us in new york city with the very latest on this, ashley good evening. >> the suspect in the fatal shooting of united health care ceo brian thompson is being viewed as a hero in some corners of society and according to pennsylvania governor joshua, dairy dark corners. >> at last check one a crowdfunding campaign raised over $20,000 towards luigi mangione and his legal defence with one donor riding quote, he poses no danger to society except for those greedy executives, a ten-dollar donor wrote, governor hopeful should pardon him right now. it's important to note that popular platform go fund to me took down several campaign supporting luigi mangione as they prohibit the legal defence of violent crimes like this one, and didn't -- "the new york post" reporting that

the thing is, he bought twitter to do it. he has a larger platform, a deeper wallet. says he will pay for you to be primary he can back it up. same as 2024. >> and trump can't. trump has long talked -- he lived under stronger men. if it is his father or if it is roy cohen. or putin who, you know, his son claims helped bail them out when he went $900 million debt. he got the money from some strong person and now it is musk. he can bankroll and write checks. trump can't. what elon musk wants is clear and what the other billionaires want is clear. the trump tax cuts. the corporate rate went to 14% as high as 39% depending on taxable income to a flat 21% that was in 2017. if you now extend that the trump 2025 tax cuts would increase taxes on anyone making less than $360,000 a year. and it would drop the taxes of people like elon musk down to the basement. musk is focused he wants that money. trump is not going to stand in his way. how could he? >> yeah. here is the deal. donald trump never spent money on anybody but himself. he is the head grifter in our history. the hist

so this evgenia writes about life on mars, on twitter, on twitter. this was back in i think this was published probably like 20, 20, 15, 15. so when twitter was twitter. yeah, and it's it's just a thing. but you. so this this eugenie has given herself a voice being not where she was but she could be. mm. and you used that as a backdrop to. talk about yourself and as you, as a, as a from know being at home and high school to college to and beyond. yeah. and it's a very entertaining and interesting way but can you talk about some of those places that you went and you just felt like you were on mars. yeah. so twitter account, which i don't think i it's probably still up kind of immortalized that website but it was it was almost performance art. it was some some person i don't even know if it was a woman kind of affected personality and created this whole account called jenny on mars i think was the of the account and i might not remember all this because again i think that came out ten years ago, but but i don't even know how i stumbled on this account.

let us know, twitter and instagram.will read your responses, coming up in the nightcap. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ >> trace: they received breaking tonight new video of an anti-ceo demonstration outside of a leadership seminar in manhattan protesters chanting, free luigi! holding signs that say, more dead ceos! it's a direct message to the jailing of luigi mangione for the shooting death of the united health care ceo brian thompson. he could be extradited to manhattan from a prison in pennsylvania, as early as this week. meantime a new emerson college poll says that 41% of voters aged 18 words 29 believe the cold-blooded murder was somewhat or completely acceptable! another 19% of those 18 towards 29-year-olds were neutral meaning, of those polled 60% of those would not condemn the killing. which is astounding. liberal media continuing to struggle to cope with donald trump's election victory, providing plenty of flight for the nightly media panel coming up, let's bring in fox news contributor joe and a journ

you saw him do it at twitter. he walked into twitter, he cut staff, he cut benefits, he cut resources and he said look, twitter still runs. but elon musk didn't get to get elected. he owns the company. here he has himself in a situation where donald trump has already said we're not cutting social security, we're not cutting medicare. no cuts to defense and homeland security. there isn't $2 trillion left in the budget if you think about all the things that elected officials need to protect in order to keep their seats. >> yeah. there's -- it's not possible to cut $2 trillion from the budget unless you're willing to touch the entitlement programs that donald trump has said he will never touch. now, of course, trump may change his mind. but that would be politically suicidal and i think trump knows that. so what ends up happening? you get a kind of version of what we just saw tonight, which is you do a different type of continuing resolution. but that type of continuing resolution doesn't have any of the sort of dome

logan endorsed the project to his over 6 million twitter followers injune 2021. was immediate. it encouraged his fans to buy. how much did you invest in dink doink? i think in total a little over $3,000. early investors in dink doink helped push the price of the token up by over 400% in just four days. so, does that celebrity factor, having people like logan paul attached to this, give you more confidence in the overall value of the coin? i have always enjoyed his content. it seems like they could get a lot done if they wanted to. following a pattern similar to elongate, after logan's endorsements, the price of dink doink climbed to its peak before large holders began selling, causing the price to fall by 96% in two weeks. but why was logan so vocal in promoting dink doink? after the price crash, logan paul tried to distance himself from dink doink, saying that he was just a fan of the funny litle spring character. but apparently, according to his mate, logan had a bigger role to play in the creation of dink doink than he lets on. i was chilling with logan and we

new twitter is a more robust, guilty, angry version of musk's criticism of old twitter. and i will always tell you, does he have the right to do it? absolutely. in the united states, if you are a publisher and you on a social media platform or a media platform of traditional writing or video, you can make those choices. i've reported on this before and told you he has that right. but he is doing the opposite of the thing he said he would do. trump has noticed these embraces, and then you have a tech billionaire who also owns the washington post, we have on the reporters as guests, we drawn the reporting. he was reportedly pulling their endorsement of trump's opponent before the election. you may refer all that. and he is cozying up, too. jeff bezos. >> mark zuckerberg has been over to see me, and i can tell you elon is another, and jeff bezos is coming up next week. i want to get ideas from them. look, we know we want them to do well. >> we have other people here, but i don't see elon musk. he has been a good aid to you in a lot of different things. >>'s got a lot of ide

are doj men on the street, hitting nearly 40 million views on twitter, yikes. striking a nerve with people? what do you want us to ask the people of d.c. next? elizabeth. >> well first of all, i think it should be no surprise to anyone that doj certainly striking a core, i think if there's anything, the american people agree on is that a government is not running efficiently. what you should ask, i'm going to be selfish, i want to know what election they felt like, watching in d.c. this year. >> trace: that is a good question. kevin? >> i love this. i can tell you personally and anecdotally i go to eunice -- i go to union station often to get a bite and to be that you have this nice mixture of people who want to make a lot of money, and some people who are just making it, hanging in there trying to make a buck. i think the number 1 question should always be something related to, regular folks. what do you think about money? would you think about there? would he think about your shelter? that is what i would like to ask. >> trace: is interesting, you go to union

new twitter is a more robust guilty, angry version of musk's criticism of old twitter. again, i'll always tell you, does he have the right to do it? absolutely. its the united states if you're a publisher and you own a media platform, you can make those choices. i reported on this before and told you, he has that right, but he's doing the opposite of the thing he said he would do. trump has noticed these embraces, and then you have a tech billionaire who also owns "the washington post," we have on their reporters as guests, we draw on their reporting. he was reportedly pulling their endorsement of trump's opponent before the election. you may remember all that. he's cozying up, too, jeff bezos. >> mark zuckerberg has been over to see me, and i can tell you, elon is another. and jeff bezos is coming up next week. i want to get ideas from them. look, we want them to do well. >> we have other people here, but i don't see elon musk. because he's been a good -- i would say a good aide on a lot of different things. >> he's got a lot of good ideas, a good guy, too. i guess his

san francisco mayor elect danielle lowry is hoping that a former twitter executive can help revitalize san francisco's downtown corridor. ned siegel was just appointed to be the city's chief of housing and economic development. siegel served as co-chair of lowry's mayoral campaign and was previously twitter's chief financial officer. his office says siegel will oversee $3 billion in spending as parof his new role. danielle lowry, by the way, takes office next month. a political run filled with iconic moments in congreses coming to an end tonight. oakland congresswoman barbara lee gave her final remarks on the house floor. lee is leaving office after representing the east bay for over 25 years. she gained a reputation as a progressive champion. one of her biggest moments was casting the sole vote against the use of military force in afghanistan. after the nine over 11 attacks. lee thanked her family, her constituents and her colleagues, callinher tenure the honor of a lifetime must. tonight, as i give my last speech on this floor after over 25 years of service, i'm reminded of a scriptu

we've had ex, formerly twitter band and blocked for months. now people are accessing it to be in. and the government also tried to block access to with bands. and that made internet access for all really data beautiful people. but it's not something even close to dissembling what happens in china, the chinese $51.00. but the idea is the same. shutting down certain websites preventing internet access and barriers with minute them. so using internet to mobilize themselves, it's not me, is it? i think on sunday of 8 pm, go symbolic. why should i cut off the auto body of this? and you'll be, be heard about. the pm's being on his law makes the religious argument that out too many bonkers. please focused on either watching pornography. so using unique skills that you can for knocking see national security. the last one me inside went to a to a big news to correct on to control and what sort of combination of things in building increased surveillance. this entire year 2024 focused on is effectively heading towards the cyber motional, which is well constructed by the army by the intellige

and go to blue sky, you can leave this book and go to twitter etc, or x.ferent. you may not be successful on a new platform. many of the tiktok creators filing lawsuits say we tried youtube and facebook but we're just not as successful and we will lose our 10,000, 100,000 subscribers or 100 , 000 subscribers or followers 100,000 subscribers or followers if we moved to a new platform and we will lose all that community that we have already built and we may or may not be able to recreate that community on a new platform. this law that passed that would ban tiktok if it wasn't sold by its chinese owner bytedance, this was passed by democrats and republicans, a lot of consensus on capital hill, despite the apps popularity. walk us through, what are some of the arguments that tiktok could pose a threat to national security? could pose a threat to national securi ? , . ., , security? the basic argument is the government _ security? the basic argument is the government is _ security? the basic argument is the government is making - security? the basic argument is

and no one could access instead or on the or twitter. and there is a huge economy on the internet and that's as badly affected. there was no for delivery, people would not call scabs. and it's very interesting also the event that i've no progress going on and nobody's invading and saw by the internet flows like like water. there really is no media space, quite light pack of stones. it is a democracy in name, only known as a hybrid rashid where elected politicians like prime minister ship boss sure we know their place and they're not challenged. the real powers working in the background, military and intelligence officials, where in the election health earlier this year, the p t i party, led by former prime minister in ron con, appeared headed for victor. despite the fact that khan was behind bar get back to sunset. he can, so i've got social media here onto the election returns, suddenly stopped. the company apparently missed the fine newsletter. you've got fair and wonderful here on the modem with me here. then the p t. i was declared t

and so, look, they continue to try to alienate it like twitter is is something if twitter ends up becoming our number one way of getting information, then we're in trouble because it's silos. and and frankly, vladimir putin has his hand all over what you read there. >> you must have been reading my mind because speaking to that this question to governor pawlenty, musk pushed repeatedly false claims online. this is just a few of them, and we'll lay them out for you. he said that the initial bill had a 40% pay hike for lawmakers. totally false. it was less than 4%. also claimed, quote, we're funding bio weapon labs in this bill. again, not true. and musk retweeted a false claim that the bill included $3 billion for a new nfl stadium in d.c. again, false. it only transferred control of rfk stadium to the d.c. government. all are still online, even though they've been repeatedly pointed out as being false by many different outlets. so was musk gullible enough to fall for these false claims, or is this purposeful because he knows a lot of people are not going to go check up on him, especially t

we understand the issues with elon musk and he is pointing it out on twitter and no, ma'am dating thelet's bring in bob narro nardel. stopping that new interim bill and make of all the action in dc now and new democrat media attack lines and going for musk. >> when will they wake up that passing out a news flash, a anywheretive and everybody kind of fa falls in line like sheep going over a cliff. it's surprising to me they use the same tactic. it didn't work, it won't work here. they're trying to create a chasm between president trump and elon musk and i oh hope it doesn't work. i hope it just rolls off their back and the american public have voted. liz: let's focus on the propses made and promises kept. the democrats dropped a house bill and going for them to move on it and they have the attack line and going for them and shutting them down and stopping the social security checks and that's a separate bucket. that's mandatory spending and not affected by shut downs and the media citing musk for dis-was when they're out there doing the disinformation. >> if they say it long enough and

so, you know, that's a that might be a leaner operation at twitter, but it's also it also made twitteresspool. >> yeah. look, i've been a leader on that sending letters to elon about all the anti-semitic comments, quite frankly, that i get towards me on twitter at the end of the day, i think everyone in congress is of the position that government isn't perfect. right? so i'm looking for ways to improve government. i think the american people expect us to find ways to improve government, and in some places that may be shrinking the size of government. by the way that used to be a republican concept, but lately they want more government in bedrooms. and so i'm looking to have this overall conversation. that's why i joined the caucus, to go there and meet with my colleagues across the aisle. and democrats shouldn't fear this conversation. i think there are ways to improve government, and i'm looking to do that. >> you're not the only one on the left senator bernie sanders turned some heads sunday when he posted on x or twitter quote, elon musk is right. the pentagon, with a budget of $886

for that reason he might just say enough. >> twitter isn't the only right- wing megaphone out there, law as he's trying to make sure that fox news and that empire stays a right-wing megaphone, he wanted his son to get complete control. the commissioner said no, and basically said that both murdoch and his lawyers, former attorney general bill barr, acted in bad faith. >> and tried to pull a fast one but this is step one, and what is probably going to be a long legal process, yes this magistrate ruled in favor of the other children of rupert murdoch, but it still has to be approved by another judge who has to approve the decision and then he can appeal the process. i suspect at the end of this, rupert murdoch is somehow going to get his way. i just feel it. you know, the rules just don't apply. >> my goodness, we will soon find out. always good to see you. when we return, a holiday bonus. james patterson and taylor swift, celebrating the joy of giving. of giving re i a ...being me. keep being you... ...and ask your healthcare provider about the number one prescribed h-i-v treatment, b

we saw what he did with twitter and x and he was able to make the cuts i think some people knew theret in intel. and pat knew it too. when you have that many engineers and relationships in the market like they do. just cutting really quickly is never an easy thing to do. but elon wouldn't care you see what he's doing with doge and it is the same thing with intel and he would figure out a way to buy his way into this a.i. market you see nvidia running over $100 billion in gpu sales. they have to have a meaningful play there and he has to figure out a way to force the fabulous designers, qualcomms and broad comes, they need to be interdugging foundry there is always going to be question marks that if it is part of intel, is it trusted and that is why we go no matter how high they raise the prices >> daniel, in 2025, now we're ping ponging back and forth between chips and software what re the real markets of progress that you expect to see in a.i we're starting to see some of them customer wins, some government usage but how are separating those who make claims to have advantage and thos

that was the cash to buy twitter. and he's used it as a tool. he's done an amazing job. i mean, when i open up twitter, the only tweets i see are a couple of yours and 6 or 7. just remember musk. >> jeff said it. the two most influential tweets elon's jennings. >> but but but think about this $27 billion bought him exactly what he wanted. and that's unfettered access now. i hope he uses it well, and i hope he uses doge to the credit of of all these great opportunities to cut spending, i really, really, genuinely hope he's successful. but if he acts like this and uses that, that twitter power to to wreck the car, i mean, we want change, but not all change is good change. >> i mean, the counterargument is if he gives information to people that they didn't previously have or some transparency into our government and they act on it, is that necessarily a bad thing? i might i might offer that. i think that's a great idea. >> do you think elon musk is actually telling people things that they couldn't find out except for elon musk? >> elon musk is doing this to gin up to gin up

same with twitter. you guys get out of here right. like and we kind of see the same thing happening again. good. >> last word to say. >> someone who is involved in grassroots politics. that's what i come from. so many times you go to these gop meetings and people are upset because their member voted for something that they had no idea what was in it. information is very hard to get out of washington. a lot of this is not broken down for people. so with elon musk is sharing information and activating the grassroots. i mean, that it's sunlight is an incredibly powerful disinfectant. >> everyone stick around for us. coming up next, despite that potential shutdown, president biden is keeping a fairly low profile in his last month alone at the white house. what has he been up to? plus, fulton county da fani willis is now disqualified from georgia's 2020 election interference case after a court of appeals said her conflicts of interest were too great. was that actually the right decision? our panel will debate that next. >> andy anderson, t

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that is a problem. >> it's an extra person to watch what their twitter or x is saying. guy who owns the platform. let me ask, one of the things that a number of republicans -- and you're familiar with the dynamics of the republican party and caucus, it's a narrow majority they have here. a number said i'm not supporting this, they don't want to raise the debt limit. many said they won't ever vote to raise the debt limit. some will vote for extending the high-end tax cuts and say they're deficit hawks. this is not a time we're going debate that. what do you anticipate from seeing how many voted for this spending package? trump threatened primary opponents. there's going to be another spending bill package in march. what did this teach you about what to look for? >> we use all these terms like maga and house freedom caucus and so forth. the people voted against this bill were ogt partiers. we haven't used the term tea party in a long time, that's where they came from. >> the initial round -- >> absolutely. and -- you know, that strain is still there. and that's what we sa

these are allies of elon musk major investors in x, the old twitter, investors and ex-a.i. and a huge stake in the future of a.i. and the policymaking around that. >> roger, what your take on this? >> i totally agree with max and he follows elon musk is closely is anyone on earth. silicon valley has a simple strategy here. two object is. one is to lower taxes to nothing and two is to have absolute freedom of action to do what they want to do. that requires undermining the rights of workers and it requires essentially having free reign to run experiments on the population. the group of people we're talking about are the architects of that strategy starting with musk but these guys are part of that as well. they are going to run this experiment and all of us will be on the end of that spear. >> what do you say to those, roger, jose finally. we will have people in these positions who actually understand these industries and understand the technology. before, members of congress are random people longtime bureaucrats, they don't even know the universe, the verticals they are ov

writing on twitter h lefe said e report left things out. he accused the committee of c releasing the document righthr before christmas, and not in a courtroom. where he couldomes challenge witnesses. this comes weeks after hee withdrew his nomination for attorney general , the country's top law enforcer. >> maybe special counsel to go after the insider trading for my former colleagues in congress. it seemse i may not have had enough support in the united states senate.on >> house speaker mike johnson opposed releasing the report that's because he quit congress. >> it's an important guardrail for us to maintain, this ethicsv committee has vast resources and powe r and we do want to be usingpeop that against... >> ethics committee has a mixed record about releasing reports about people who left, some g.o.p. members put little previews and the r report, democrats were appalled atto opposition to which publicationb >> what can be held accountable for is as a member of the house we pledge to hold ourselves to a higher ethics standard, that inclu

is tonnes of government pork in it, and then all those lawmakers got lots of phone calls, e—mails, twitters, saying, tank this bill, so elon musk, an unelected billionaire, he has $400 billion in net worth, he is very powerful in american politics, and sometimes even goes against stuff that trump wants, and so trump may not like him after a while if he starts who wants to totally get rid of the debt limit, and that would be great news for people who want to spend lots of money, including both democrats and republicans favouring their pet projects. tell me more about elon musk�*s involvement, because social media has been having a field day describing him as president musk and vice president trump. what has been going on with him? because there is lots of talk of the sort of pressure that is being put on lawmakers. people havejoked he should be the house speaker, since mikejohnson doesn't seem to be able to run his own conference. so a few days ago, elon musk heard about this deal he is in charge of trump's department of be a real department, more an advisory body, and he did more than a hu

siegel worked for five years as the chief financial officer on twitter. lowry and siegel have known each other since they both attended a private middle school in the city. a small yet possibly significant change in vacancy rates could be a first sign of a turnaround for san francisco's office market. numbers from commercial real estate market research firm jll show the office vacancy rate fell slightly in the fourth quarter. this decrease is less than a full point, but it is the first decline. keep in mind, since 2020. san francisco has been struggling, as you know, to get workers back into the office after remote work became the norm during the pandemic. another big development plan is in the works for san francisco's outer sunset neighborhood. the two mixed use towers, 124 stories high. the other 22 stories, would have 446 units of housing. our media partner, the san francisco standard, shared these renderings with us. 207 units would be below market value for seniors. now this is at 2700 sloat boulevard, the same site where a different company wanted

most recently, lurie named former twitter cfo ned segal as head of housing and economic development. he's also tapped former giants executive stacy slaughter as his chief of staff. >> well, he's basically bringing his campaign into the office, which is something we always a long time see. >> abc7 news insider phil matier offered us insight on the individuals. >> stacy slaughter, his chief of staff, is a longtime san franciscan. she served as a staffer for former mayor frank jordan when he was in city hall. she's been with the san francisco giants, so she's really tuned in to the fabric of the city. her uh- next step up is matthew godot. again, he has been in city hall for past mayors and now is coming back. ned siegel well, that's an interesting one. he's a longtime lifelong friend of lurie's. they went to school together. he's been working with him on tipping point. he's coming in as a friend and an adviser with the mission of trying to revitalize san francisco's downtown. that's a big job, but they hope that his contacts with twitter and such would be a boon to it. >> matier says l

i mean, the idea that president musk was trending on twitter today has got to be driving trump crazy. and that's one of the things that make us wonder how long will this last? yeah, we will see. thank you. scott. you bet. let's move on now. one of the biggest campaign promises from president elect donald trump is the promise of mass deportation. that's a lot happening here. california's agriculture industry is sounding the alarm, warning that if the trump administration makes good on that promise, it would likely devastate the nation's food supply and spike our food prices. the monterey county farm bureau tells us that agriculture is a $4.5 billion industry in their region, with 55,000 farm workers harvesting the crops every year, many of which are undocumented migrants. the bureau warns that mass deportations would decimate the workforce, meaning fewer crops being picked and hiking the prices. it's interesting that four years ago, during the pandemic, they were essential, and now all of a sudden we're looking at it from a different perspective and trying to understand how that dynami

he is spending, in fact, an inordinate amount of time on x or twitter, as many refer to it. he currently sends dozens of tweets a day. he does not even have time to actually even be ceo, according to one tesla investor, ross gerber. quote having your ceo not working at your company and working at the job of having to fire government employees is i'm a shareholder. i'm paying someone to not work for my company. now, look, of course musk is not actually firing government employees yet. he's just spending more than 20 hours a day tweeting about doing it and about various other things. the new york times found one week in september that almost a third of musk's 171 posts were false, misleading or missing vital context. and now his tweets have caused a deal that took months of negotiating between democrats and republicans to implode. and part of what's so bizarre about this last minute blowup is that both musk and trump spent the day with speaker johnson this past weekend at the army navy game. i mean, they were all together. they were all hanging out. none of this came up. no on