u. k, u s. u armed israel is continued the killing and gaza, the westbank lebanon, and syria, with abiding administration, declaring no red lines for his royal. what can stop thousands more from being killed? joining me to someone who has been in the israeli government as the justice minister and deputy foreign minister, former us back peace plan negotiator and an architect to the 1993. also, of course you'll see bailey and joins me from tel aviv. thanks so much. you'll see for coming on the violence has been continuing for a weeks. of course. i mean, how many more people do you think joined, come us for every bomb dropped on gaza. and do you think it's an issue that concerns me is riley, in effect coalition government as well. i don't know about the well distance and then with all due respect today, as you know me for a few years time, it's thorn supposition produced a government. i hope that after the world there, we lay there will end the day and beverly, this is what really happened, but these, you asked me about a joining come mazda as a result of the day of the conflict. now, a, i'm sure that you are right. i mean, usually in such a situation you see the people identifying a weekday. we decide sometimes he did the suit, the side. sometimes it is one side. but you cannot be a reason to allow how much to remain the government in gaza. and that is the main point. i mean, they ensure that it was sold and when the end of del governing garza, because they are doing also things to that is, so is it to this is surrounding police, right? and to the arab countries. we sometimes a shy to say openly, but i'm sure that you know, we, the entire schools knowing because i'm getting very many phone calls for people from the union since on may others in the region. know who say don't give up, don't give up. you all fighting for all of us. so a to the mission is to just destroy the present demise leadership because if indeed it is an issue that you agree with and so forth from us is a body's surgeon getting the west bank full of the line. yeah, so it's increasing the normally we, we that, i mean we did call and see to us and i can understand that you to me is that but not for long. i mean, if people see that this guys uh, is under a normal, a rule or not a, but i know these is zillow's. they're really just an intern. i'm and i'm ended surging in the west bank. not only i know i reaction joy can you between booking july? i'm sure because they are watching tv and seeing what is happening to their budgeting and i can understand it. but i don't think that it will go full long because they the ones they see this day, the situation. any guys that have to do well, if there would be interest, be see if it would be the b o, o and the will. they keep it, they, they, they the leadership in, in guys, hopefully ne, rarely sense a identity duration. we change though, and that we understand that what was done mean guys, that was a must. of course there is a, a, a list or a full i had involved people in guys which is really very popular my deep. but please give me a, not the solution for the current, a situation after october, the 7th. when we know what they can do, and we know that they can retail, and we know that it is a must likely to icy seen the bus. to put an end to end situation will by 8, the 8 is zillow. it's like them. i'll governing an area i want to give their own devices in a moment, but to us for solution daily. the solution that's argued for by the u. a. russia, china, that is an immediate cease fire and some kind of negotiations in the neutral country that's not directly involved in the conflict. that's the solution. as the, as all was accept save world war 2, and then you'll do what is it before is with this will usually you'll have 2 sides which are, it will end, but they are ready to negotiate a behind the scenes publicly for what the eval. and usually people like by says, all you all sense old sales, well this is the best solution, the compromise between them every day does a win win. you either will very said, but now sit together, make peace between yourselves. and that's the end of the story. or the only problem is how mazda is not to do. i mean, i wanted to talk to people, folks, i'm a smoke, no indian the last use. for them people like me. oh, the worst enemies. because they don't want to, i like to have been solution. they don't want to have these wireless around, they don't want to have that use it. yes i to have on us