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u. a. e of oppose the u. s. u k, and the u nations by calling for a permanent cease fire in palestine with a leading newspaper in this region is, are amusing with me again in the studio. is it so award winning editor in chief? i love us previously editor in chief of saudi arabia's already anguish. thank you so much. 5. so for coming back on that long to get through this time since your last ongoing underground. i mean before 1228. before it's a heavy x, but 2030, i suppose i should ask you about this shadow costs across this region. how difficult has it'd be viewed personally and professionally, just watching. witnessing thousands upon thousands of children being slaughtered by all this and they do a nation weaponry in, in gaza, our muse covering it every day since your condolences, i know, speak as a human being. and an unfortunate citizen of this part of the region of condolences to every citizen, every a civilian that has been killed on, on either side as an editor. it's been equally painful. it's always a little bit more p
u. e. of oppose the u. s. u k and the u nations by calling for a permanent ceasefire in palestine with the leading newspaper in this region is our music with me again in the studio. is it toward winning editor in chief? i love us previously editor in chief of saudi arabia's already anguish. thank you so much. 5. so for coming back on that long to get through this time since your last ongoing underground. i mean before 1228 before. so how do you export 2030. i suppose i should ask you about this shadow costs across this region. how difficult has it been for you personally and professionally? just watching. witnessing thousands upon thousands of children being slaughtered by all this nature nation weaponry in, in gaza, our muse covering it every day. i sincere condolences, i know, speak as a human being and an unfortunate citizen of this part of the region of condolences to every citizen, every uh, civilian that has been killed on on either side as an editor, its been equally painful. it's always a little bit more painful whe
u. s. u. k. charges favor the u. s. over the decision note to expedite to search in april 2022, westminster magistrates quote, formerly issued extra dykes and some 8 weeks later. you. okay. set contrib preteen potato. signed the funding in june of 2023 london side court, just as jonathan swift rejected 2 separate applications made by a stranger's lawyers to appeal his extradition. striking down all submitted grounds at the time of his from holdings. julian saunders is still being detained in definitely solitary confinement in that marsh purse while he's legal to continue to appeal on his p off. oh, the most people have heard of him in relation to the swedish trump rainbow allegations and it's really important to to debunk them to explain the role of the media in mischaracterizing the case and creating us your campaign. the, the swedish case, she's the one of the most anomalous crime investigation i have ever seen as a do. and that is to women, went to the police for having julie in a sense, testing for sexually transmitted illness. the evidence was really manufactured and it turned out to be complete distortion of the actual situation where 2 women wanted him to get an h. i d test not to have him prosecuted in any way and they were distraught that he was being persecuted. the public understanding of these days was started by the people couldn't understand what was really going on. the us special report that on thought took need semester . the leads are speak swedish, so she was able to read the bargaining, adding the suggestion documentation, and to expose at the least for the the c evaluation some due process including active my new police and not very this. the case was open in 2000 and then to closing 2010 after 5 days for reopening. 2010 kent, that's the sea shelly open for 6 yards when he was finally question in november 2016 and the may 2017. the prosecute. the young me close the investigation and dismiss the case. and then when do nothing was interested in april 2009 to a new, a swedish prosecutor reopen the case, but of course, and it was already, there was no case at all. so she closed the investigation once and full and the november 2019. and the when notice charges, you know, this case was just a put in many of the investigation. dental was never as charged for a. and i can assure you that if they have an added dental, they could have me definitely charge him and they need it to the board came on try . yeah. and they did that these days has been use to describe this is sort of conditioning supposed to be a default because the father companion offense, and on that rape case the never was, it was just part of this manipulated firestorm that was created in an effort to bring this knowledge down the ones we 2 weeks published votes because of course, targeted by the c i a, in the intelligence community. and part of that smear campaign was to pay which he leeks as a sorry, again, or a friend for austin power. i rush to moore and report which investigated the trump russia saga, and found no collaboration between the trump campaign and, and russia exonerated with the leak. so there was 0 evidence that russia provided any leaks or information to wait 2 weeks. we should also be clear that we 2 weeks published over 700000 files on russia itself wouldn't indeed, or what 2 weeks ago and the from the, one of the arguments we hear about it. why join us on should be targeted from those who believe he showed his eye. he somehow put people at risk, but what we've seen in more than 10 years now is a complete failure by the us government to present any evidence of any concrete harm. cause anybody at chelsea mannings, trial ad for me, which i attended was a charge was made that lives were put at risk in that trial. uh the prostitute had to admit that that was not true. the the, the, [000:00:00;00] the on a test. so i usually do at least academies needed to copy math from the, from the projection. so it would say around june was they needed something to distinguish, isn't i couldn't really get one except before the how they felt. i felt opponents when he didn't reject, according to being a more country position court in the final weeks. he had this material in his position in the final weeks the got in the new york times. and the spiegel became involved in processing and sifting through this material and had a great on the joint launch. a guy that went back to this, the tried to put a hold to it for don't any one of them, anyone to say delay was drawing us out and always with him. absolutely. with him and i'll say this in any course, sydney and american court. it was julian who tried to stop the release until that full reduction to been done from the 1st day to the early hours of monday morning to redact. the was with him and we were sharing the problem. he rejected a 10000 nice by himself, quickly released the state of the lot uh, on the on the, to the main, not the leaks of practice. uh, the listing you know, unless or to i am is out of a mix. so he was not, i am used to edit that was the, the fundamental works that the made the, the bed trench of documents there was 96 medium boxes, carefully rejecting the cables and to david li hang lu, cutting published the password in the book, had a great sense of responsibility for the material, for the souls who provided the material. and for the material itself, he went to great pains. he contacted hillary clinton to ask for help in redacting names. pay off of that to the us government and they declined the u. s. military accounts of local informed was that they had given in some data that were if it was a little bit into your law, why could not wondering whether you have found all of those whether you know, or they have, if they have a particular code does in your kind of within that within the what's the exact size is it, as you can open to ha, now does that said it is possible means of maybe maybe as 5 or 4 heroes firing for their choice. and we are forced to make college always nice, hard choices. do we do best different to minimize calm, which we have done with the understanding that this is an ex, extraordinary body of material capable of producing extraordinary reforms. so what i want to say to people looking at is how do you, if you think a sound as a traitor is a rapist, he's a nurse whistles, she's a hacker. i don't blame you because you have been sick. and if you think you've not been deceived, that's normal because otherwise you wouldn't be such the party for everything we've t
u. k, u s u armed israel has continued the killing and gaza, the westbank lebanon, and syria, with abiding administration, declaring no red lines for his royal. what can stop thousands more from being killed? joining me to someone who has been in the israeli government as the justice minister and deputy foreign minister, former us back peace plan negotiator and an architect to the 1993. also, of course you'll see bailey and joins me from tel aviv. thanks so much. you'll see for coming on the violence of being continuing for a weeks. of course. i mean, how many more people do you think joined, come us for every bomb dropped on gaza and do you think it's an issue that concerns me is riley, in effect coalition government as well. i don't know. the well does concern them with all due respect. they, as you know me for a few years. time is thorn supposition produced a government. i hope that after the world there, we lay there will end the day and the beverly, this is what will happen, but these, you asked me about a joining come mazda as a result of the day of the conflict. now. okay, i'm sure
u. k, u s. u armed israel is continued the killing and gaza, the westbank lab and, and syria with abiding administration, declaring no red lines for his royal. what can stop thousands more from being killed? joining the someone who has been in the israeli government as just as minister and deputy foreign minister, former us back peace plan negotiator and then architect of the 1993. also the records you'll see bailey and joins me from tel aviv. thanks so much. you also you for coming on the violence of being continuing for a weeks. of course, i mean how many more people do you think joined the come us for every bomb dropped on garza and do you think it's an issue that concerns these riley in effect coalition government? well, i don't know what the hell does concern them with all due respect. they as you know me for a few years i'm such as thorn supposition produced a government. i hope that after the world there we lay there will end them. okay. and beverly, this is what will happen, but these, you
u. k, u. s. u armed israel is continued the killing and gaza, the westbank lab and, and syria, with abiding administration, declaring no red lines for israel. what can stop thousands more from being killed? joining me to someone who has been in the israeli government as just as minister and deputy foreign minister for my us back peace plan negotiator and then architect of the 1993 also records. you'll see bailey and joins me from tel aviv. thanks so much. you'll see for coming on the violence has been continuing for over a week. so course, i mean, how many more people do you think joined him? us for every bomb dropped on garza and you think it's an issue that concerns these riley in effect coalition government? well i don't know about the well does concern them. we told you was.
u. k, u. s. u armed israel has continued the killing and gaza, the westbank lebanon, and syria, with abiding administration, declaring no red lines for his royal. what can stop thousands more from being killed? joining me to someone who has been in the israeli government as just as minister and deputy foreign minister, former us back peace plan negotiator and an architect of the 1993. also, of course you'll see bailey and joins me from tel aviv. thanks so much for coming on. the violence has been continuing for a weeks. of course. i mean, how many more people do you think joined, come us for every bomb dropped on gaza and do you think it's an issue that concerns me is riley, in effect coalition government? well, i don't know what the hell does concern them with all due respect today, as you know me for a few years time is thorn supposition produced the government. i hope that after the war, they will say, they will end the day and the beverly, this is what will happen, but these, you asked me about
u. k u s. u armed israel is continued the killing and gaza, the westbank lab and, and, and syria with the, by the administration declaring no red lines for his royal. what can stop thousands more from being killed? joining the someone who has been in the israeli government as the justice minister and deputy foreign minister, former us back peace planned negotiator, and an architect of the 1993. also the records you'll see bailey and joins me from tel aviv. thanks so much. you also for coming on, the violence has been continuing for a weeks. of course, i mean how many more people do you think joined the come us for every bomb dropped on garza and do you think it's an issue that concerns me is really in effect coalition government? well, i don't know what day. well does concern them with all due respect they as you know me for a few years time it's thorn supposition. produce a government they hold that after the world there we lay there will end to them. okay. and bear with me this is what really h
u, the u. k, and the u. s. are partially responsible and complicit in this because of the weapons that the west provides to ukraine. also, the russian ambassador was a little critical of the un secretary general saying he was baffled on why the secretary general had not issued a strong statement yet condemning the attack in belgrade. now we should also mention that top un official colleague had an assistant secretary general, also brief the council, where he call it for all sides to de escalate the situation. and he said he unequivocally condemned all attacks on cities and civilian infrastructure and ukraine and russia. clearly the security council has been focus the last couple months on the situation, guys that for obvious reasons, but as the war and ukraine continues, the russian ambassador felt this was a key opportunity to point out how his country is also a victim. in this ongoing conflict gabriel's on to out is here at united nations in new york. meanwhile, the governor of the ukrainian, the region of ho
u. s. a by the u. k. and by the e. u at which it in essence, so problem is the it or the other people often and probably. so we obviously prone mike on a conduct that is not very cool inside of the united nations shuttle value innovation to, you know, you know, that typically as of sanctions. right. now let's talk about breaks a little bit. now we've seen the expansion of economic integration of bricks, countries, and one thing the world is looking forward to is settling by electro trade and national currencies where the both country that are involved in such kind of trade now is that is hitting that by the west one way or the other, how far is south africa are ready to go in defending it. stand in settling by law to a trade in national conferences, i think probably for your fewest to better appreciate the evolution of the topics payments, settlement system it's, it's equally critical for you you'll feel was to understand 3 pallets of cooperation amongst breaks the member states as the 1st one speaks about the centrality of political and security cooperation. that in essence, mike speaks about the importance of optics that breaks uh the nation stage should have in regards to peace and security and fail to into what we do for see that increasingly pretty useful to you and always stablish a particular proximity, as it relates to international peace and security architecture is concerned. the 2nd issue obviously speaks about the centrality of uh, economic and financial corporation. if you look at the, you know, some of the practical steps we have taken was the stablish been in all the sudden allies ation on a equal share a capital basis, the new development bank or, and to be that the so not to be um, you know, uh, and this is the existing pattern with these a decent size issue i am asking you will be, but is really you in to be was established here to ensure that the, you know, it becomes a, a more easily. and it was a 3 and reference point, full financial uh, allocation of capital in mobilization of capital for member states of your, of, of the brakes. the us pick about the brakes payment then says on one system we should be, i knew koval call about that we should not speak about that in the same product enough then debates that has been getting the right the thing, the public that that sold to a you know, equate similarities in relation to data lies ation. it's absolutely not the same thing. what do you think tends to do might, is to ensure that there is a breaks, a family of nations where able to faith amongst ourselves and that the rates are obviously uh, the enabled that should be the settlement on local currencies without having to invoke international financial systems in regards to that, the type of issue at that obviously myco speaks to the jeep when the road meg map on the cross for the payment system. so it's actually a matter of image or what the g. 20. yeah. nations, us speaking about it's a, you know, identical image, it goes through a defined african payment system that the african union states has speaking about. so it's a key and able to ensure that breaks member states 3 set easily. so the economic, the ends of each financial today. and then obviously the loss of cooperation speaks about the centrality of people to people, cooperation and cultural diplomacy. that obviously is evident if you look at the, the, the, the entire continents, in essence, from the global south on our, presented in the breaks of a family of nations. it's interesting. now a area ended this year. we, we, the united states, the read some backs, the days of africa, cues, of africa, of supplying alms and weapons to russia. and as it is, of course, russia responded very firmly, calling on the us not to drag high into issues between russia and on how herself. but after that was settled, was there any kind of pressure that your country came under from the west? well, um the, i think the most important issue, mike, is 1st the prospecting, the following policy, independent photo, the photos and policy positions. so for the, for a nation, including that of south africa we, we have chosen to, you know, to amplify on the line to us fun points as it relates in particular to the conflict between russia and ukraine. these concepts. so we should be under vocal about that. in fact, our membership of being part of the non the line movement and subscribing to the bundle principles, boots that obligation owns, hold off for the guy not to in, in, in essence, to become conflicted in difficulties that big powers, a face with the and in particularly year we speak about the difficulties that the, the nato advice of us, that i send for that ation of face within them. so if it's the jo, political outlook as it relates to this one, ukraine is concerned. so we, we, we should be obviously on equal vocal about that issue in between. so the guy in the us next is that it's easy pallets or partnership at which or the natalie mike base on shed fairly was a principal sofa of a democracy and calibrations in areas of a good governance and economic diplomacy. it was a rather unfortunate that for the you or somebody to the effort to south africa is engaging or aiding that i sent for the ration military. i think you with the appreciate that is a, is a developing countries hold off at the f, not that type of capacity to 8. that i sense that the russian military. so if you look at the entry point of that type of, of argument that it was complete the rational but b dismay, president, i'm a pause, a point that they inquired ethan validate that you know, i was fun pointed to we f, not aid did us. and for the race and military, in fact, what the, the shipment entails was the procurement doing a good decode, with 19 fund day me, for the, you know, through the capacity is the, relates to peacekeeping missions in, in this, out of offer case consent. so it's the unfortunate and we, we obviously stand for them at our is our nemesis should appreciate where we stand is a is a upon african state in relation paul foreign policy and people to 3 speak. you know, our standpoint as relates to a different areas in the world, this consent. and it's obviously unfortunate that we had to, you know, undergo and i'm quite a severe beating on the financial markets because of the perceptions that was leveled against us. we have seen fresh struggles against new colonialism amongst african countries and countries are beginning to reconsider the release of knowing me the engagement with the west. why do you think this is resonating among african countries? now, let's 1st be absolutely clear that the unconstitutional changes of combo month in africa. it is not the recall and say that but with the african agend northwood standing to perceive all actual negate the fraud that former a colonial power powers continued to play in africa. and yeah, a specific fear, referencing a, you know, decide to go great lakes region is undergoing at some complex difficulty. but importantly, my get, you know, the former uh no, no powers has a responsibility to ensure that them, you know, 8 to 8 does not necessarily be at every, every, by 3 sense that operations. but actually, you know, support the development agenda of countries which they have been responsible, dakota nice and, and year i'm speaking for example, i know and experience it because we have been calling new of the united kingdom, the u. k. in our relationship both in terms of human health, well the membership and also in terms of the pallet to where we have seen for example, the u. k. i deeply invested in relation to science and technology in relation to thought of them being a key for it. and patrick, invest the and then able to ensure that, you know, as a form of a colony, the u. k. plays a particular developmental role that to ski and create to what, what this obviously concerns us is that the for political independence has not necessarily imply economic independence. the dead, all of us should because send the quote to, you know, set then the condition of aspects as it relates to a, you know, a d corona project needs, obviously to be examined because increasing the joy of african a young person that today obviously more conscious politically, den, yes, the, so we, we all obviously concerned that, you know, the african agenda is not been able to get the type of the same support from former a colonial must this in
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point full financial uh, allocation of capital in mobilization of capital for member states of, of of the brakes the, the us pick up out the brakes payment then says on system we should be a new koval call about that. we should speak about that in the same product enough . then the bates that has been, uh, getting that right. the thing, the public that, that sold to uh, you know, uh, equate similarities, interlaced and the data lies ation. it's absolutely not the same thing. what do it intends to do might, is to ensure that there is a breaks, a family of nations where able to 3 months, our sales, and that the rates obviously uh the and able to should be the settlement on local currencies without having to invoke international financial systems in regards to that, the type of issue at that obviously mike here speaks to the g to in the road. meg map on across the board, the payment the systems. so it's actually a matter of image of what the g 2 in the nation's us speaking about. it's a, 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defined african payment system that the african united states has speaking about . so it's a key and able to ensure that breaks member states 3 set easily. so the economic, the bins of each financial today. and then obviously the loss of cooperation speaks about the synthetic deal, people to people, cooperation and cultural diplomacy. uh, that obviously is evident if you look at the, the, the, the entire continents in essence, from the global south on our, presented in the brakes of a family of nations. it's interesting now a area and the this year we, we, the united states, the read some backs, the days of after got to south africa of supplying alms and weapons to russia. and as it is, of course, russia responded very firmly, calling on the us not to drug high into issues between russia and on how self. but after that was settled, was pay any kind of pressure that your country came under from the west. well, um i think the most important issue, mike, for these 1st the prospecting, the 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u. s. is finding itself increasingly isolated. yeah, i, i'm based in london, the u. k. i'm staying on the un security council resolution. but the world itself is looking at the situation and i think increasingly b, u, k, u s, they're feeling the isolation and the pressure will build on them. as i say, is a timeline here. there's talk of perhaps this thing going on for another 2 months. we can only think at the risk body count at the end of that 2 months and the destruction absolute destruction of, of, of hospitals and universities of, of in other infrastructure. if this is allowed to go on for, for 2 months, the blogs at the you and us opposition to a canvas diplomatic momentum that spill top advance anyway, inside the u. n. or in all the avenues, i think that he went to a very difficult place, isn't that because people are looking at the you and, and saying, where are you, the impotence of you and is so clear now. and, and it's interesting that has this impotence grow is, and as a catastrophe grows, people are going to look, i think, for other solutions, pressure will grow. i would love to hear like what, what, what would be the other avenues or solution? i would look to europe in your opinion, t
u. s. the u. k. france, russia, and china, of each, as a veto, is used extensively over the years. the u. s. is bought more than 40 resolutions on israel. critics say the current setup isn't working. as the international community is unable to respond effectively to global crises. there's been many proposals for reform including limiting the visa that expanding the number of permanent members on the un security council for not one has been implemented. or you can see israel's bombing campaigns as killed or injured tens of thousands of palestinians. most of gauze is population has been forcibly displaced many families, several times. israel has rejected calls for permanency expire, as pledge to continue with the sol, despite growing appeals for an end to the violence. vince and bald headed out to sierra for inside story. the. let's bring in our guests in northern wales is con ross, the founder of independent diplomat. the non profit advisory group is also a former british diplomat. served on the un security council. and it's, i'm a bad many hello to you. is a former pakistani ambassador to the united nations and was closely involved in discussions about the reform of the security council in las go. now if you have just left microsoft, former russian diplomat, german of the russian friendship society with arab countries. welcome to you all con, 1st question to you. 18000 palestinians have been killed. most of them women and children. and the new and security council is not able to call for a ceasefire, even though most of the world wants to see the fighting stop. is that you when failing that? it's primary mission. yes, undoubtedly i meant the un security council is the world's primary body for a peace and security for peace and security. and the us as blocks any action, as it has traditionally done on israel, published by an issues. and on this occasion it has clearly blocked the security can selection. so now the action goes to the general assembly. and so, by the way, just to make this clear at the time of recording, we haven't yet seen the vote to the un general assembly. it will happen in a few hours. there is likely to be overwhelming support for pause in the fighting. and it's probably going to be called a ceasefire in the language that they're looking at. but we really have, we have, we have many viewers from what could be called the global south analysis 0. what are they supposed to think when they see major powers on the one hand promoting international rules, and then blocking the only multiple multilateral system that we have to uphold them when it suits their interest as well. i think most people in the global south would be extremely disappointed, but not surprised by the way that the security council, the way it's structured is, is not working. i think at the heart of its dysfunction, a nice the fact that we have a structure of the primary body responsible for the maintenance of international peace and security which reflects the arrangement of a bygone era. i mean, the 5 permanent members all dead because off to the 2nd world war arrangement. and now the security council needs to reflect garden, the global realities, which it doesn't. so i. ringback this disappoint looked in the global so, but there's also a sense that this body must be radically deformed if it is to live up to the responsibilities of the 21st century, because it does not reflect 21st century the entities. and for that, it is important that either the security council is reformed in the manner that you increase the number of elected members who can then balance the bar exercise by the b 5. 0 you move to end the v 2 we, they pause even though i think that would be a very difficult, difficult thing to do because any reform with the security council with which you know, i have get involved in the negotiations for almost 5 years. any reform would involve an amendment to the child to the united nations and that means that due to its majority of the general assembly will be required. and then rectification, all those who have voted for it including the 5 permanent members. so here's the dilemma or the problem. the problem is that the 5 permanent members of the security council do not wish to give up. it's we to and therefore we're looking at a situation where they have been recently moved by the general assembly to try to at least limit or to embarrass a, the permanent 5 and they use the we do it. i think we should remember the countries that have used it. most of it is the united states and russia. did you get a kingdom? is the number to country that used to be too many times, but china and fonts have used it less. so the 2 countries that have used it, most of you know, that i'm the names of fact how they either tried to shield themselves or the allies of from st. you or from any kind of action which leads to security. guards of dysfunction ineffective and lacking legitimacy. okay, just love i want to bring into this conversation, but before i do that quick little explanation to make sure our viewers are up to speed on just the very basics of how the un security council works. the un security council or u. s. c is 15 members, 5 of which are permanent, and they are essentially the victors of world war 2, which is when all of this was designed and, and built and they are the us, the u. k. rush at china and france. and those 5 only have the rights and the ability to veto any resolution that comes to them. okay, and that's what we're talking about today. so you have just a lot of i want your take on this as a former russian diplomat because it on this particular concept the war on gaza. countries have been critical of the us vetoing a ceasefire. but there's another concert going on still going on, of course, russia and ukraine, and on that conflict, it's been the other way around with russia, vetoing any attempts to impose a ceasefire in that war. so we see that the major powers use the veto when it suits their interest. what is your take on this, this issue of the veto power and whether it's blocking the you with. and of course, if we don't have a room at the current international affairs
u. s. voted against it and being one of the permanent members of the security council there is a veto. and the u. k of stain, the deputy us envoy to the u. n said the draft resolution that was brought forward by the united auto memories cooling for a ceasefire. in guys it was and i quote, divert divorced from a reality and would not move the needle forward on the ground in a concrete way before the boat. robert, where do i just a quoted there, told reporters is not an issue about isolation. it's an issue about what we think is best to try to end this conflict as soon as possible and also to help facilitate more humanitarian assistance is going into a gaza. there's been a push by our up country. so had a meeting earlier today with the secretary of state and the blinking pushing it for the cx 5. and with this and you go, there will not be an accident off of the united nations of to the us. once again used it's vito in the security council. right? no surprise, of course it's a israel spoke out to a games the resolution that's right. spoke out against the resolution, saying that as the site is only possible, once him us is a defeated, the united auto memories, the only or a country that is part of the permanent council had put as some pressure on that. but what's interesting, and that was something of what we're looking at, not only as the position of the united states and of washington, it has been pretty clear in the line with what is really saying, but also holiday u. k voted yesterday, david cameron and met with a secretary blinking there were many and questions also on how they u. k. would vote. now we know that the stained with this new effort brought at by a member to call for a cease fire in gaza. but this time they, it's a force different because antonia gutierrez, the secretary general of the un invoked optical 9 to 9 of the u. n, saying, is that the situation is, if you said that it's terrible what's happening in gals that he mentioned. also the strikes on educational facilities on hospitals and also mentioned to what his staff, what the staff of the united nation is going through in the gaza. and also that it's important to push into coal if for a ceasefire it yesterday, secretary blinking was to ask also during the press conference about this investigation by a reuters, that's out that it wasn't is rarely time through the killed a one of its staff members. he dodge the question, said that they will continue working with a is row with the
u. s. and the u. k. intervened in to stop they have wanted this war, this is their war, this is their proxy war against russia. and it wouldn't be happening if the us and u. k. didn't want it to happen and therefore of course, there can push it or so that's when see what the fallout from this attack on belgrade is in the coming hours in the days. then you colleagues, human and labor rise later. thanks so much for your time as of today. thank you. the slightest defense of the counselor offensive has told us 2023 drawers to a close form on t as very to lock in any gains on the front line, and how close the cook free for the ukrainians to head about. so our websites are comp will in 21600. the palestinians have been killed in more than 56000 wounded since the stats of the war in gaza. the latest updates of the conflicts, tragic human soul was published by the palestinian health ministry on such a day. administer said that a 165 palestinians have been killed and 250 injured in just the past 24 hours is also note, said the 70 percent of the victims always rarely attacks women and children as, as only 13 of causes. 36 hospitals remain functional and only partially dots with most located in the south of young clave. the palestinian health industry has won that around 2000000 people in gaza, all facing salvation of you and is urging the warning sides to provide safe access for humanitarian assistance. people are hungry and just desperate for food calling about and gods. a city this week, 40 percent of the population at risk of famine, more regular supplies need it require safe and sustainable humanitarian access everywhere, including to the north of gaza. but as the u. n is urging israel and how much to help combat the leading spect cause of somebody in drugs. the idea of has published voltage, which shows it leveling inside of districts in northern casa, is all claims. this level of destruction is necessary as it strikes have must have minutes, ins, hiding and tunnel system is below ground. just as it recently uncovered the apartment hi dots of one of the leaders of how much. yeah, seen was a lot still system was allegedly located beneath the apartment building and was also destroyed by the is really military wanting to study images coming up now a successful gossip. these pictures show the after mass of a recent strike on the town of our zow out is wide, the palestinian bank presence as it transports at 8 casualties to hospital and the children were among the victims need to report a state the several people were killed in the attack on the nearby city of the old bala, at least 20 civilians were report to the killed and it is very started on frid