instead they are referring to them as uap's. >> uap initially stood unidentified aerial phenomena with earth's atmosphere. now includes the air, space, and undersea domains. >> the experts gather for the first public meeting today as they prepared to release recommendations for evaluating and categorizing new uap's. but they say there's a big hurdle along the way, stigma. as people researching it is ridiculous. >> it is really disheartening to hear that harassment our panelists have faced online all because they are studying this topic. reporter: not to the risks they pose to airspace safety. >> by understanding the nature, we can ensure that our skies remain a safe space for all. reporter: so far the team has gone through the data collection stage. looking at uap's it like this. it is data but it is not good. high-quality data that they need. >> without sufficient data, we are unable to reach defendable conclusions that meet the high scientific standards we set for resolution. >> the existing data available from eyewitness reports are often muddled and cannot provide conclusive eviden

i asked you on twitter what you think of these uaps, what they are. here's what you told me.hey're foreign government aircraft. 29% think they're drones, meaning civilian drones, airborne degree like i mentioned, and 8% think there are other things out there. i'll leave this poll up for the next couple hours. go ahead and vote. let me know what you think they are. as i mentioned earlier, nasa's meeting is still going on right now. you can watch it by going to nasa's website or its youtube channel. marcus and laura? >> aliens you say. all right. thanks, abbey. >>> turning now to our climate in crisis, following a wet winter, the bay area is still facing fire danger but of course it looks different than it has in the last few years. today in the south bay you'll see pg&e. they're going to take action to minimize the risk. nbc bay area's bob redell says that we shouldn't be surprised if we see those helicopters buzzing above. >> reporter: starting today, continuing on through friday, pg&e will be conducting inspections of its large transmission towers and power poles throughout

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they did say there's some reported character u.s.ices of uaps. this was interesting.they typically say they are round and small. they tend to be white, silver or translucent, between 10 and 30,000 feet in the air, even stationary or twice the speed of sound, and no thermal exhaust. here's the problem with all that. the problem with that is that is largely anecdotal. that's just people saying that's what they saw. or it's being measured with all sorts of crazy instruments out there. here's what's important. there are a lot of these reports, listen to what was said at this conference about the shear volume of these reports that are coming in. >> at the time of my opening hearing, we were at 650 cases. we roughly get, you can do the math, it depends anywhere from 50 to 100 new reports a month. now the reason we had such a big jump recently is because i got faa's data. so we ended up with 100 new odd cases. the numbers that we see are less than single digit percentages of those. >> so the real issue here that nasa is saying is what we really need is a plan going forward,

astrobiology and was formed last june to examine unclassified ufo sightings which it refers to as uap'sd other data from government and private sectors. british researchers are developing pea that do not taste like peas. sounds like a dream but why? the plan is to produce an alternative to soya to meet the demand for land base food. peas tend not to be used as a meat substitute because they taste like peas as our science correspondent reports. >> these pea plants are being grown at a farm outside norwich. chris harrison will use them to produce meat substitutes. this is what they will look like after they have been processed. these protein chunks sold to food firms to make dishes like this chili. this is delicious. it's easier to make spicy food because the protein taste of pea s. >> once you start to use milder flavorings you're more likely to taste the flavor coming through. exactly that. a lot of work goes into making burgers that do not have that vegetable flavor. that has been the biggest focus of that industry in the last five years. >> these seeds could be the answer. they are th

this process is so filled with stigma investigating uap, which are just ufos.ht now this is an open case. we know there are cases that are not open. we know for sure our government is studying ufos. they revealed undeniably ufos are real. advanced machines' unknown origin, we don't knowy where they are from, who piloted them or who built them. this is about trying to get more information. lawrence: we asked the pentagon for a comment but we never heard back from them. if they gave a response, would you believe them? >> everybody i talked to at the pentagon are pretty straightforward. they want to know, too. there are machines flying in ways we can't duplicate. it's not a matter of belief. ufos are real or they are not real. if we can solve it, great. but the concerning thing for me, i know personally that pilots are being asked to scrub their footage of ufos and uabs. lawrence: who is telling them to do that? who is telling them to scrub their footage? >> it's unclear to me. sometimes people want to stay on mission and this is i behind --s a hinderrans. we need

i didn't know this before the ufo hearing, we are supposed to call it uap, unidentified aerial phenomenonanyway, the other three things. there is a michigan balloon whether operators club that put something up and lost it. most of it is garbage. honestly. >> stephen: the balloons. not michigan? [laughter] it's a beautiful state. >> congressman himes: there goes the presidential run. >> stephen: what about, a couple years ago we got these reports from the needy mostly of pilots telling us they were doing operations off the coast of north carolina, military flight operations, even at the egress points of that area they would see these unidentified flying objects. they would pick it up on radar, infrared, visual sightings, they would do trans mach speed. they would go into the water. they would show up on someone else's radar. what is that? have you been briefed on that? >> congressman himes: we have. >> stephen: should i be worried? >> congressman himes: let's get to that. we've got the navy in the lead position looking at what these things are because it's largely pilots that are in f-18 o

. >> interesting that they have shifted to the uap instead of ufo because it has less of a stigma. meeting also includes an opportunity for the public to ask questions. the experts will publish their report in the coming months. >>> and a spacex capsule with four people aboard is back on earth. the crew dragon splashed down in the gulf of mexico just a few hours ago. peggy whitson and three paying passengers spent the past week aboard the international space station. >> the mission was put together by axiom space and they are hoping to spur private participation in space flight. thanks for joining us here. i'm max foster. >> and i'm bianca nobilo. "early start" is next. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain healtlth. to help keep me e sharp. neuriva: think bigger. >>> right now on "early start," no time to spare. lawmakers vote in the coming hours on the deal to avoid a eb

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scientists now refer to them as unidentified anomalous phenomenon or uaps. keeping his eyes on the skies for us. tom, 800 potential sightings. what i found interesting is there are some common threads, best assignment of the day doing this, by the way. the common threads of the nasa group, there are certain things that are reported, typically round, atypical orientation, 3-13 feet in size, white, silver and translucent. beyond that, the performance is something they have collected here based on what people tell them. 10,000 to 30,000 feet in the air. stationary to mach 2 and no thermal exhaust. this is what people observe, what they record with their cell phones. >> on that note, it's not just eyewitness accounts and people's cell phones. it's also military equipment, fighter jets that have documented things that can't easily be explained. >> highly experienced people have seen things like this. really interesting in the meeting today, astronaut scott kelly -- pilot scott kelly said this is where i live, this is what i've done my whole life. i get confused.

is tracking more than 800 what they refer to as unidentified anomalous phenomena or uaps.t or even any of them are e.t.s but they are working on this and trying to find ways to create a road map for how they are analyzed going forward. as of now the quality of the reports they are looking at is really wide ranging from military aircraft sightings to citizen cell phone video. this is one of them from a p-3 military aircraft, this in the western u.s. see those three dots? it appeared it turned out to be distant aircraft. here's another example of the kinds of reports that nasa gets almost daily. >> this is an example of one that i showed at the hearing recently. this is a spherical orb, metallic in the middle east, 2022 by an mq-9. we'll come back to the sensor question raised here in a moment. this is a typical example of the thing that we see most of. we see these all over the world and we see these in making very interesting apparent maneuvers. >> he's referring to an mq-9 drone. joining me is the principal investigator of nasa's first ever grant to look for signatures of

. >>> so in just a few minutes a nasa task force will hold a meeting on ufos or as it calls them uapsf experts spent nine months studying data and will discuss their findings. tom foreman is joining us. are we alone? >> reporter: well, and i aren't. i don't know about other people. a lot of people don't have a lot of friends. but this space thing, you know, what are they going to say. they will say we found things that we can't explain and that we want to look into more. that is what my guess is. for a long time the government wouldn't say anything at all and then the military finally said yeah, there are things out there that we're not quite sure what it is, defense people looked at some of the images as well. things captured by pilots and started saying that maybe there is something strange about this. so what is different, you say what is that thing, is it performing in some way that we don't understand. and if so, where did it come from. is it some kind of a test vehicle from another country, is it from space, is it some aerial phen phenomenon. and unidentified an onymous phenomen

nasa prefers the term aerial phenomena or uap, which means the same thing. morning. >> on the ground, case-shiller says prices have stabilized and this may be the lowest they go. prices in the san francisco metropolitan statistical area, which includes san francisco and oakland, are down around 11% for the year, but they're up month-to-month, again, experts thinking this is a sign of the bottom. so down 11% for the year, up 3% for the month. that's a good sign if you're a homeowner. >> exactly. >> a new one. >> thanks, scott. >>> san francisco empty storefronts and businesses could pose a creative solution for artists trying to make it in the bay. a director wants people to do this, those who own the properties, they should double the investment by housing artists or providing performance spaces. she points out that neighborhoods became what they are, famous when artists moved in. she said you can look at what artists created in the black rock desert in nevada. >> we started burning man, we took the emptiest space in america and turned it into an internation