ukraine is part of that. ukraine is part of that.ht, you're right russia state and hold onto ukraine and putin clone policy, whatever the board decides to leave, russia is doomed to become a economy and a third-rate power. not in a year, not tenured but in 25 or 30. they will become china's little powell which is already developing. >> john, you're right that anders knows a great deal about russia we have another guy in this room also knows a great deal about russia and his name is in the three signs and he now has the floor. >> microphone. >> thank you very much for accepting our invitation. thank you for what i consider a brilliant presentation and a lot of things you have said that ientirely agree with . if i disagree with you somewhere on the russians position , i will say without any sense of sentiment because i don't know whether i should because very clear that we know what russia is prepared to allow. it's not clear what they want. if they want to recognize many acts as an independent republic, horse could do it. and there yo

ambassador to ukraine, but has followed ukraine, the ukraine related issue for many years in his currentapacity running his program, his european program at the atlantic council. and having a real in-depth understanding for, let's call it eastern european and central asian affairs, having that only served in ukraine but also uzbekistan, if i'm not mistaken. and he told me -- i think one of his first jobs after leaving the state department was running a program called dealing with complex problems at the national defense university. and actually the u.s. state department trained you for dealing with complex problems, >> and creating them. [laughter] mr. bert: so without further ado i'm going to ask john to begin. and as is traditionally the case, you should know that this is being filmed by c-span, so we are not following chatham house rules -- we are on the record. fmr. amb. herbst: rick, thank you very much and richard, thank you for the invitation to come here. also will talk about zelensky, what that means for ukraine and russian-ukrainian relations. the first thing to understand abou

the future of ukraine, ukraine russia relations. we couldn't have a better speaker to address this issue. john has not only served as the us ambassador to ukraine but followed ukraine, the ukraine related issue for many years in his current capacity, running his european program at the atlanta council and having a real "in depth" understanding for, let's call it eastern priority and central asian affairs not only served in ukraine but is pakistan if i am not mistaken but he told me one of his first jobs after leaving the state department was running a program called dealing with complex problems at the national defense -- the state department trains you for dealing with complex problems. without further a do i'm going to ask john to begin. as traditionally the case, this is being filmed by c-span, we are not following chatter house rules, we are on the record. >> thank you for the invitation to come here. let's talk about what volodymyr zelensky means for russian ukrainian relations was the first thing to understand about president

the special status for the occupied territories inside ukraine that would in a way prevent ukraine's western integration for them to have a special veto startles of course this is all between the lines we do know what president putin is trying to achieve is to cripple ukraine on its way towards european union and nato so i mean there's quite a different interpretation of the readout of what they what they achieved in these talks and that was even a different question will be talked about because there are the russian press release of the ministry of foreign affairs talks about ukrainians position ukrainians shooting their positions while the ukrainians are claiming that it was the separatists back by russia that killed 4 ukrainian servicemen and wounded 9 so there's still decides are still talking past each other and that's why it's important to keep a bigger picture in view and the bigger picture is indeed the cues to the conflict resolution are in the kremlin and if russia wanted to do skull 8 it would be possible but this is not the case so what about i mean search has also said h

ukraine's new ukraine's word for it yes they are again we don't know if all of them are there because that's 24 people just a quick reminder to our viewers as to what happened in the streets back in november as you've just said several several ukrainian vessels military vessels and to the coach straight which is just off crimea is coast off the coast of the crimean peninsula and of course russia regards crimea as its territory ukraine doesn't agree with that ukraine can still considers crimea its territory so the ukrainian military vessels that you know with the warnings of russian ships so the russian navy to intervene interests there was quite rough there was a quite rough incident because one of the ukrainian vessels was rammed by a russian ship and the russian sailors had to open life injuring i think so. re ukrainian sailors who when they were brought to life received all needed medical attention they needed so this is this is the ukrainian these are the ukrainian sailors that are in question so we have yet to see whether they're going to be included in this exchange and as you s

he gave lethal aid to ukraine. he has flip flopped on his own policy by putting a freeze on these funds. just like every other foreign policy issued, there are two different ukraine policies. we have to see the pentagon and the state department providing lethal aid to ukraine working to bolster zelensky and as ryan was saying, we have the president of the united states placating putin and condoning his actions in eastern ukraine. so by putting a freeze on these funds the president is flip sloppi flopping on himself. >> you've worked on the national security council during the obama administration. why did president obama not provide lethal -- you heard congressman banks tell us he was willing to give them blankets. >> saying that president obama gave them blankets is ridiculous. the obama administration since 2014 both under president obama and under president trump, there has been the provision over $1 billion in assistance to the ukrainians. and the fact of the matter is that providing military a sis tansz and fo

joe biden goes over to ukraine, i believe, it's april 2014. he goes there physically to ukraine. you can look it up yourself. just a short period after that, his son with exactly zero experience whatsoever and natural gas gets this lucrative position on the board of burisma, this natural gas company and right after joe biden leaves and then joe biden is on tape which sean just played calling for the guys should be fired who was investigated to hire him after he was in ukraine. >> but is isn't it proof that he doesn't have a feeling of guilt about it? the former vice president, he frankly -- >> sean: geraldo -- >>st he doesn't even know what state he is in on any given day. he thought he was in new vermont when he was in new hampshire. >> you can't walk through the corridors in washington, d.c., without running into the son, the daughter, the brother, the sister, uncle, of somebody --eb it's called influence peddling. >> geraldo, timeout! you're the vice president of the united states. royou think you may want to tell your kid it's probably not a good idea to join this natural gas

but the invasion of eastern ukraine. one person that might prove of a move like this russian president vladimir putin, very much in russia's interest. joe johns is outside the white house. joe, how does the white house answer criticism? we've heard the president say no one's been tougher on russia than trump. this would be an explicit case of being soft on russia. >> reporter: that's absolutely right. and it's pretty clear in the event they were actually going to go ahead and block this $250 million in funding to ukraine, it would ingratiate president trump to vladimir putin. it would also kick off a huge storm on capitol hill among those members of congress from both parties frankly who are concerned about the protection of ukraine. this is money for arms, intel, all things defense and security for ukraine. so the question, of course, is whether they're going to do that and they have some time to determine for sure whether they're going to do it. but there's also a back story here going on, jim. and you really have to a

we we have as if it was our guilds that there is a war in east ukraine was started by rough. federation is thought of a fool to. say this is the sort of depression the kremlin wants to have at the russia's indispensable that he's in his pencil that only if you're opposed to him. and his interests i'm get to his terms there will be peace because that let's be honest the tough talk the tough words between these 2 sides haven't worked until now so maybe this is the only way to get everyone back at the table. well visqueen france and fulton there the russian brother bear some tough lines on russian meddling in french domestic affairs on on ukraine. the tough lines that were all there stall the fighting to stop the war from being a war that was fault with tanks and i was basically sitting with the teary test containing the problem is that you can last in the only ended if you introduce a kind of he's making force that has an x x 2 from on that the russians are those who block for its new u.n. security council to get him on that for for next 60 missions so the the prologue and how

today a new push from the french president to bring russia and ukraine back to the negotiating table. we have to reinvent an architecture of security and trust between the european union and russia and france will play its full role and you all can. a warm welcome to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world tonight the german chancellor angela merkel is in iceland for talks with nordic leaders talks that will focus on the need for action on climate change now chancellor merkel was welcomed in the icelandic capital reykjavik where her counterpart prime minister country dr reminded everyone about the high price that her country is paying for global warming. climate change is something that my government is prioritizing very much and we had actually here yesterday and i started just close here to see if this ceremony where we actually go there because we have the 1st please sure disappearing in iceland oh cool. right now the glacier the prime minister was talking about as we can see behind me except the ice is all but gone now to get an idea of the transformat

there are conflicting reports out of ukraine today about whether or not an exchange of prisoners has taken place with russia ukraine's general prosecutor announced on facebook that filmmaker all aches and saul and other prisoners are heading back home from russia but the office of ukraine's president says no swap has taken place since all has been held on terrorism charges following russia's invasion of crimea the government in kiev is also hoping to secure the release of ukrainian sailors captured last. well for more let's bring in kiev postes editor and correspondent matthew cupp who's in the ukrainian capital matthew some sources say sense off the other prisoners are already on route to ukraine but kiev officials just deny the swap had taken place can you fill us in on what's happening there. well we can't really know for sure what's going on right now because we know that they've been working on this prisoner swap president selenski has said that and that he's working on it personally but yesterday what happened was a new lawmaker was elected just not long ago posted on facebook

nato allies have reiterated that decision we made some years ago that ukraine will become a member of nato that's the bucharest summit the 2nd that still stands some point at some time it's up to ukraine to decide who their security relationships will be with that's an important principle from our perspective i have to say though it's also very important that all nato allies be ready to accept them and that means seeing a level of of reform and development in their not only armed forces but also in their democratic practice let's talk about nato 70th birthday which is just coming on the happiest one downgraded to foreign minister level instead of the usual heads of government. you disagree on many issues you know secretary general hardly ideal in an alliance that claims that strength rests on unity is that the secretary general had a wonderful speech before a joint session of congress the 1st time any leader of an international organization has had that honor it was a great day but we haven't finished with our celebrations tim there will be a leaders' meeting at the end of the year in

excluded from since the annexation of crimea now talk about crimea of course that the conflict in ukraine is going to be high on the agenda do do we anticipate anything in the way of progress. well so far that conflict has really been in deadlock particularly under. the previous ukrainian president and observers had been hoping that there could become kind of some kind of a change with becoming president this year and it does seem that that may perhaps be happening today we heard from vladimir putin who said that he expressed he expressed what he said was careful optimism about the resolution of the conflict in ukraine he mentioned that he had spoken to zillion ski on the phone in june and that there were several aspects that he wanted to discuss with with his french counterpart today so that really does seem kind of. like a big step forward almost a russian media has been running with that as breaking news even so far the kremlin had adopted kind of a wait and see policy when it comes to the dance key they've been waiting as well to see how strong he really emerges from the parliamentary

ukraine has been better on this for five years. now president putin has suggested supportrt. >> mother says goodbye to her dead son. he is one of four ukrainian soldiers killed in the east of the country. itit is this a guest -- single biggest death toll. the response of ukrainian president was immediate. he called vladimir putin and begged him to use his influenene to stop more ukrainians from bebeing killed. he called for a new round of international peace talks. >> i would also like to talk to angela merkel in the nearest future and to agree on an emergency meeting. we should stop telling each other that the normative forormt meeting should take some time this year. how many more will die this year? >> ukraine's leader is pushing to revive the talks as a way of ending the simmering conflict. these came about in 2014 when the leaders of france, germany, ukraine and russia met on the sidelines of the d-day landings in normandy, france. the discussions helped to seal an agreement between the warring parties in 2015. this reduced th

as far as this money for ukraine arms. we know that $250 million was supposed to go to weapons, training, to help ukrainians battle these prorussian separatists who occurred in their region in crimea. why is ukraine so important to putin. >> well, putin's whole goal is to restore russia to greatness. the days of the soviet glory when there was a big empire that could shake the world and people respected the soviet union, that's what he's trying to bring back. ukraine was obviously part of the soviet union, it separated but in russia, there are russian speaking people in the ukraine, many people still view it as part of mother russia. he has devoted a huge amount of his efforts to bending the will of the ukrainian people, fighting them, attacking. this war in ukraine is -- it's not some skirmish, 10,000 people have died here. and this $250 million was supposed to be for lethal defensive weapons so the ukrainians could defend themselves against this aggression. ukraine is our ally, and now we're not standing behind our allie

nato allies have reiterated the decision we made some years ago that ukraine will become a member of nato that's the bucharest summit the 2nd that still stands at some point at some time it's up to ukraine to decide who their security relationships will be with that's an important principle from our perspective i have to say though it's also very important that all nato allies be ready to accept them and that means seeing a level of reform and development in their not only armed forces but also in their democratic practice let's talk about nato 70th birthday which is just come and gone and happy is the one down graded to foreign minister level instead of the usual heads of government. you disagree on many issues and you know secretary general hardly ideal in an alliance that claims its strength rests on unity is that the secretary general had a wonderful speech before a joint session of congress the 1st time any leader of an international organization has had that honor it was a great day but we haven't finished with our celebrations tim there will be a leaders' meeting at the end of

according to the information that he has they have not crossed the border between russia and ukraine just yet ok with regards to those people then ukrainians you mentioned sale is there is the resumption they are the sailors that being held over the years into the strike back in november yeah absolutely is that incident of those sailors just a reminder as to what happened back then last year in november on the 25th of november some ukrainian military vessels entered the coach straight it's a straight right off the coast of the crimean peninsula and of course russia says crimea is part of its territory ukraine disagrees so those vessels the nord warnings by the russian navy so the russian ships had to intervene and to intercept those ukrainian vessels there was a rough interception as well because one of the russian ships rammed a ukrainian vessel and the russian sailors opened live fire to stop the ukrainian ships i think 3 ukrainian sail. injured last year in that incident light injuries and they received all needed medical help as soon as they got on land since then they stayed the

they are concerned about russia invading ukraine.er thing that makes the giuliani adventure so ridiculous is that when i went there, you know what we went there for in the beginning? let's figure out -- let's get you to combat corruption in ukraine. ukraine was one of the most corrupt places on earth. we went there in 2015/'16. let's get rid of this corruption. you know who wanted to prosecute the oil firm that biden's son was involved with? the obama administration. the whole charade of giuliani doing this is kind of crazy. >> we're going to talk about this more because i know the story is not going away. ken vogel, thank you for spending time with us and your reporting. >>> after the break, democrats, whole bunch descending on the state of california. - why are drivers 50 and over switching to the aarp auto insurance program let's take a ride with some actual customers and find out. hey, well tell me about your experience when you switched to the hartford. - when i switched to the hartford, i'm sitting there, like, man, i should've

first germany has called for renewed efforts to end the conflict in eastern ukraine foreign minister heiko moscow made the comments after meeting with his russian counterpart sergey lavrov in moscow the call for a diplomatic solution to the 5 year old war between ukraine and the pros russia grapples 30000 people have been killed in the fighting according to un estimates. this spring and they don't do correspond to any show in moscow welcome that emily was there any sign of progress over ukraine today. well the meeting between moscow and lover of yesterday after when they spoke and held their press conference yesterday they both seemed to hint that ukraine had been the main topic of conversation but there seems to have been more words than actual concrete steps there was a lot of optimism from the german foreign minister heiko mosque's who said he expressed hope that perhaps the election of the recent election of ukrainian president vladimir is the lenski could give some kind of a new momentum to the resolution of the ukraine crisis of the war in ukraine and could finally end that con

ukraine's foreign ministry described mr putin's visit is a blatant violation of ukraine's sovereigntyt such visits as routine were pathetic. ramzan karmali, bbc news. stay with us on bbc news, still to come: they were schoolfriends until the berlin wall divided them. now, nearly 60 years later, they meet again for the first time. case so the big crowds became bigger as the time of the funeral approached. as the lines of fans became longer, police prepared for a hugejob of crowd control. idi amin, uganda's brutalformer dictator has died at the age of 80. he's been buried in saudi arabia where he lived in exile since being overthrown in 1979. 2 billion people around the world have seen the last total eclipse of the sun to take place in this millennium. it began itsjourney off the coast of canada, ending three hours later when the sun set over the bay of bengal. this is bbc news, the latest headlines: the tenth consecutive weekend of pro—democracy protests in hong kong has come to an end with accusations of increased police violence. donald trump has been accused of promoting unfounded c

, the money would mep ukraine defend itself against russia which invaded and annexed ukraine's driemiaparts of eastern ukraine. outfront tonight democratic congressman brad sherman sits hon on the house foreign affairs committee. appreciate for ime tonight. >> good to be with you. >> your reaction to the move, is this a weakening of america's position toward russia. >> well it's terrible foreign policy. mccain, mattis, rubio, graham all recognized how important it is that we help the ukraine defend itself. two parts of the ukraine are now occupied by russia. and more will be if the ukraine can't defend itself. also a tufr for trump. and he can reward putin and he can pressure the ukraine into interfering in the next election. it's terrible foreign policy and electoral policy that makes us wonder whether trump is trying to win the electoral college votes in pennsylvania or -- or figures that putin has electoral college votes. >> do you genuinely expect that president trump is seeking russian help here to interfere again in the 2020 election? >> well it's clear russia will interfere in o

will make the purpose he wants to make towards peace in ukraine. many on micron is it using this opportunity capitalizing on the recent change of leadership in ukraine and on the signal us the positive signals he has received. from bloody merry so lance cade the new. president who made the piece of it in a crane at the top of his put the peace of making a crane on the top of his agenda. now the question or will be then how will and how far you cranium are ready to go in compromising and fulfilling the conditions of the minsk accords which govern the peace in ukraine. and their there are several points on which for any ukrainian president fulfilling that would be deadly and which russia insists on fulfilling. now if booted place this smart which so far h has been doing ad that recent exchange of prisoners between ukraine and russia at. at cistus default to this. at he can than. a line behind himself western leaders who gonna press to crane to fulfill those conditions even at the call of the political there have a political cost. and that is precisel

after after speaking to zillions key recently so there does seem to be some movement on ukraine but coming out of their meeting yesterday we heard more words than concrete steps they both mentioned the fact that there could be a meeting soon in the normandy format so between ukraine russia france and germany and they also both talked a bit about the possibility of a prisoner exchange but lavrov kind of said that there were a lot of details that still need to be worked out there of the 2 foreign ministers also disagreed over press freedoms let's listen some of what the had to say. it is not realistic to think that germany all german media would want to influence russian domestic affairs. or. petition or even initiate such a development either now or in the future. that is not the task of a press outlet or a media outlet such as torture vella he does not engage in such activities i do not believe that anyone would seriously suggest that germany the german government or a german public body would take part in such practices so every show in disagreement about this broadcast. well yes i

issues on the table ukraine syria.are going to be a hummer died we heard not clarified but we heard about the french president saying that his talks with vladimir putin whatever is gleaned from the lot will be taken into next weekend's g. 7 summit that's in barrettes france obviously hosting. he will be talking to other leaders about what he and vollmer putin spoke a byte. over the course of today maybe just as we're waiting i might just delve a little further into what will be spoken about when it comes to ukraine for instance moscow one ski have to honor the 2015 min scream in france and germany you may remember were involved in brokering a deal but clashes have been continuing in ukraine but perhaps iran will be the biggest issue the most time will be spent on the 2015 nuclear aku or and we know that america left the cord around soon after that was forced to do so as well whether or not some kind of breakthrough might be tween the leaders of france and russia we will wait and see and of course syria which seems to b

an exchange of prisoners between russia and ukraine could happen soon according to cranium officials a plane carrying several ukrainian prisoners took off from russia in the last few hours and is expected to land soon in kiev journalists are already gathering at the airport to meet them. forced to apologize on their one of a mess n.b.c.'s top poster attracts a story linking donald trump to russian oligarchs admitting the so-called rigorous verification standards of the outlet would not adhere to. also environmental activists rally against nestle's plans to draw over 3 and a half 1000000 liters of water from florida sides of a river saying it would threaten the area's biodiversity. hello you're watching r.t. international i'm rosana loquitur thank you for joining us and we go 1st to our breaking news story a prisoner exchange between russia and ukraine has restarted just in the past few hours a plane carrying several ukrainian prisoners who were being held in russia is expected to land in the ukrainian capital kiev at any moment among those on board are the ukrainian filmmaker and wri

congress has set this $250 mill kwon for assistance to ukraine. for the president to refuse to spend it is undermining an importance function, this also comes as rudy giuliani continues to mouth this bizarre and frankly disgraceful -- ukraine has failed to play ball. so as we see trump's reluctance in this area, to do something that's common sense, it comes as the backtroop of his supporters pressuring ukraine to do what amounts to corrupt political favoritism. >> >>e says the ukraine has damages information about joe biden and his family. that's not emerged, at least not yet. he was threatening to cut about various. of aid, but had to relent in the face of pressure from republicans as well. >> in this, the president is basically daring congress to push back, and in some cases, particularly when it comes to certain types of foreign affairs issues, republicans in congress are willing to use whatever power, influence they have over president trump to sway him. they typically do it privately, through back channels, through the vice president, for exa

-ukraine relation its ukraine became a political football in our own domestic politics here in america. >> ambassador pheifer, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me. >>> want to show the latest pictures we're getting in there in france as we await president trump to step off air force one and start g7 which is going to be a very interesting three days. as we said, there are a lot of things, there are a lot of discussions that are going to go on where there is not a main commonality, a core commonality among many of these leaders from canada, from france, from italy. and with president trump. in fact, the euro council president mentioned one of the things that's different this time around, the new prime minister johnson, boris johnson from the u.k. and we have the euro council, president tusk, saying he will have serious conversations about brexit with prime minister johnson, hoping that the prime minister will not be a mr. no-deal when it comes to that. as you see on the screen, we are waiting to see president trump step off the plane. when he does, if he goes to

will talk about the ukraine crisis. the french presence on my latest contacts with the newly elected president of ukraine there are some things that we can discuss there are things which call which are inspire a cautious optimism we'll talk about syria. but before signing the agreement and saatchi and the present french president mentioned that. tries ation of some of the. 50 percent of the territory was controlled by terrorists right now are 90 percent of the territories controlled by terrorists we're seeing continuous raids and some of the militants are a real. other regions of the world and this is extremely dangerous there have been several. to attack our maimie may airbase in syria. from the this is where we support the efforts by the syrian army. to hold local offensives. against terrorists. and should not feel that they are in a safe haven there as we said we'll continue working against terrorists. another important issue is libya. national reconciliation that's our goal. and i would like to know what is the posi

has been asking russia to release them and to send them back to ukraine back to cuba. just earlier this week we didn't i didn't see that in ukraine a russian journalist carol that was released from pretrial detention people are linking that case with what's potentially happening that well it makes sense to link because if indeed. if we get an official confirmation that the prisoner swap is in fact underway today that is a positive sign in relations between russia and ukraine they managed to find some common ground ground in a question well in an issue that they have been that has been for a very very long time and that doesn't need come on the heels of. the head of the ukrainian branch of the russian news agency ria novosti he spent more than 400 days in ukrainian jail without sentence he's accused of treason but he has not been sentenced with anything and russia has been adamant that karylle he was just doing his job he was just doing his job he was a journalist or he was doing a job like you or me and that he should not spend all that time in jail without being found

ukraine is the most pressing one on the agenda for the ukrainian government has been battling russian backed separatists in the country's east for 5 years now president putin has signaled fresh support for the 4 nation talks aimed at bringing peace to the region. the mother says goodbye to her dead son. he's one of 4 ukrainian soldiers killed in the east of the country in the 1st week of august. it was the single biggest death toll in the ongoing conflict with pro russian separatists in almost a year the response of ukrainian president brought him as alinsky was immediate he called russian president vladimir putin and begged him to use his influence to stop more ukrainians from being killed but he went to step further and called for a new round of international peace talks. i would also like to talk to anglo-american in the nearest future even today if there's time and to agree on an emergency meeting we should stop telling each other that the normandy format meeting should take place at some time this year how many more people will die this year. of. ukraine's leader supported by emm

ukraine's foreign ministry described mr putin's visit is a blatant violation of ukraine's sovereigntych visits as routine were pathetic. ramzan karmali, bbc news. to sri lanka now, where the main opposition party's choice of candidate for this year's presidential elections is proving controversial. gotabhaya rajapaksa has been accused of human rights abuses during his time as defence chief. ethirajan anbarasan reports. the long wait is over for gotabhaya rajapa ksa — the feared wartime official who is running for the country's top job. mr rajapaksa, a brother of the former president mahinda, is a controversial figure. he served as the defence secretary while his brother was president from 2005 to 2015. the un says tens of thousands of people were killed during the final stages of a nearly three—decade—old civil war. some of those killed during the conflict were journalists who were critics of the then—government. in one of the cases, a well—known editor, lasa ntha wickrematunge, was murdered in colombo in 2009. mr wickrematunge's family and other rights abuse victims have filed lawsui

it has to do with the liberation of the ukraine. d-day. and the relationship of the soviet contribution was that as of that date, when you liberate the ukraine, you push the germans out of the country. so by that point in time, one month before d-day, we had been occupying 65% maybe of the best german troops fighting us. if we hadn't done that, if we had failed in moscow, or solid ground, all of those troops could well have been under normandy beaches. the story that has to be told is that that's a significant contribution to winning the war. it needs to be explained to us as americans. because we all -- there's nothing wrong with supporting as we all do. my father fought in world war ii. our contributions. but we have understand the war as a total picture. and the eastern front, that's where we need to do it. as well as that strategic advantage, just the numbers sacrificed is a story that needs to be told. there was something in the area of 20 to 22 million people who died on the eastern front. half of whom, it's alleged, may be military.

ukraine's foreign ministry described mr putin's visit is a blatant violation of ukraine's sovereigntyts media to present such visits as routine were pathetic. ramzan karmali, bbc news. the british government has announced a package of measures on law—and—order, including extending controversial stop—and—search powers for police. critics say the plans are vague and lack credibility. richard lister reports. stop—and—search — the government says it cuts crime, and it wants more police forces to use it more often. the plan is part of a law—and—order package unveiled by a prime minister who says he wants criminals to be afraid. figures suggest black people are almost ten times more likely to be searched than white people. but the home secretary said the initialfeedback she had had from police was that stop—and—search works. from all the police forces that i've been speaking to, even in london yesterday, i have heard that crime under 255, the age group of 25 years old, has gone down by 15% because of increased use of stop—and—search, and that means taking more weaponry off our streets. so,

forces either regular or contract troops have been operating with pretty near impunity in eastern ukraine 10000 people have died so there's a glow that it's being keeping the peace isn't quite true is that i think it is important to point out that article 5 of the washington treaty applies to allies that's the famous all for one and one for all. part of the washington treaty that is the core of our defense alliance where george's concern in 2008 that was an enormous wake up call and 2014 represented a sea change for the alliance not even see it coming not only in terms of a wake up call in ukraine but also the fact that the rise of eisel the establishment of the caliphate in mosul that year brought the fight against terrorism and violent extremism into sharper focus as well so we did have a wake up call in that period and i think it has led to huge change in the alliance not least of which was a huge change in our defense spending and a look at what we really need today to counter both of these kinds of challenges but despite the fact that you provide ukraine with what stoltenberg called

last year, damien joined the marine corps of ukraine. we're in a trench on a hill thhe's overlooking some of t russian-backed forces' positions. the reason damien's un's beenre sent here is because they're to provide covering fire for another ukrainian unit that'sg huntinti-tank crews that have been harassing ukrainian vehicles lately. this machine gun nest overlooks the positions of the russian military and their local separatist allies who want to wrest control of eastern ukraine from the central government in kiev.o, >> go,o, go, go, go, go! >> reporter: it's a war that's claimed the lives of some 13,000 people since russia's annexation of crimea in 2014. and aside from the occasional foreign volunteer, ukraine, its troops to america's wars around the world, has had to wage this fight on its own. well, almost. damien came here not just without the blessing of his government, but also without his family's. he left his girlfriend and two sons behind in the united states. >> that didn't go over too well. she was extremely upset, couldn't

congress passed an aid package for ukraine. of that happened after russia invaded ukraine in 2014 under president obama. then over last few days, we have seen the current president repeatedly and insistently argue that russia should be let back in to the g-7. even though the reason they were kicked out was ukraine. what russia is doing to ukraine hasn't changed at all. trump has blocked the delivery of military aid to ukraine. that aid that was passed into law by congress. it's the very same military aid for ukraine that was supposed to help, quote, keep russia at bay. yet, donald trump has been slow walking it all year. if he keeps blocking aid, through the end of september, the money will disappear for the year. you know who would love that? russia. maybe it's all completely coincidental. there is a monster storm coming. it is happening at once and has consequences that just happen to be very good for vladimir putin who donald trump just keeps pleasing and appeasing for whatever reason. we'll be right back. banjo? (man) go ho

especially in places like the ukraine, which were behind the lines. because the ukrainians were initially, when the germans first invaded the ukraine, the ukrainians welcomed them thinking, of course, like in world war i when the germans came into ukraine and made them an independent nation, that they would again be an independent nation. i think after about a year they began to realize that they have two devils. stalin on the one hand, because they don't like the soviet system. they don't like the fact that this cost them tens of thousands of people who died of starvation because of that system. but -- and, oh, by the way, we also see that today. that -- that juxtaposition in terms of between the ukraines and russians and animosity they have there. what happened is that now they realized in was another devil. that is hitler and the nazis, because they are killing people who are, just because they are on the low totem pole, if you will of the racial identity that the nazis project. and they send their young back to germany as slave laborers. so at tha

the first article and it has to do with the liberation of the ukraine. the point being, the significance of that is of course one month later, we have the day. the point, and the relationship of the soviet contribution, as of that day, when we pushed her when we liberated the ukraine, the push the germans out of the country. by that point in time one month before the day we had been occupying 65% of the best german troops. if we had not done that, if we had failed the moscow or stalin. all of those troops could well have been under normandy db ship beaches and it could have been a different outcome. the story that has to be told is that the significant contribution to winning the war, if you would explain also as americans because we all contribute there's nothing wrong with supporting as we all do my father fought in world war ii, our contribution. but we have to understand the war as the total picture. in the eastern front, that's where we need to do it. as well the as that strategic advantage just the numbers, the sacrifice, is a story that needs to b

these came about in 2014 when the leaders of france germany ukraine and russia met on the sidelines of the 70th anniversary of the d.-day landings in normandy france the 4 way discussions helped to seal an agreement between the warring parties in 2015 this reduce the fighting but small scale clashes have continued. the result is that since the start of a still ities an estimated $13000.00 people had died. hoping to reign in the violence the normandy group might a number of times but the process has been stalled since 2016. now the french president is hoping to oversee efforts to restart the normandy format and to persuade vladimir putin to join the process and resume peace talks. let's get more on the story from our g.w. correspondent emily sure when she's standing by in moscow hi amalie good to see you how important is this meeting right now as tensions between the west and moscow is still are still pretty high. while this meeting is certainly very important for the russian side russian observers ahead of this these talks today have been emphasizing the growing importance of him i kne