undergrads at iowa state and the university of northern iowa are already to set to pay more starting in the spring semester. that's under a tuition increase that the board of regents previously approved. the increases come after state lawmakers failed to approve the board of regents funding request last session. jack: iowa hawkeye fans -- we have a little more than 48 hours until the team takes the field in the big ten championship. they're 12-0 going in to the biggest game of the season so far. will take on michigan state in indianapolis on saturday with a kickoff time of 7-17 pm. local 5's sports team is already setting up at the stadium, and we'll check in with jordan furbee and alex giaimo coming up in a little bit. stephanie/2shot coming up on local 5 news at five... a dog takes a trip of a lifetime- by accident! find out how this corgi got a few extra plane rides - and if she made it home. jack: but next... a famous track star is going back to prison. the latest on a big change of direction for oscar pistorius in court today. "you're watching local forecast with chief meteorolo

undergrad students at the university of iowa will pay more for tuition next fall. yesterday, the board of regents approved a three percent increase. in september, the regents raised undergraduat e tuition for the upcoming spring semester. but that three percent increas only applied t iowa stste and northern iowa. for full time undergrads. students at the university of iowa were exempt from that increase. students at iowa are somewhat used to asn't raised one student who has benefited from those freezes says he doesn't see future increases as that big of a deal. "i think three percent or 100 dollars added to tuition here is really negligible compared to the price, so i don't think it will affect people too much, so i don't see it being a big problem. " there could be additional increases depending on the amount of funding the legislature gives the universities. one woman from linn county is extra thankful for a big gift this morning. crying with applause lucinda alexander learned several area companies chose e r as the winner of a new van last night. marion tire, de

if we cave to all the whims of helicopter parenting, then how are we, i'm thinking of undergrads, how are we helping them on the path to adulthood, independent adulthood? i feel like, as a professor, i have almost a moral responsibility to help lead eighteen, nineteen yrs old, to a path where they can have conversation s without maybe having out. now, if we're talking about rape, physical violence, ptsd, that might be another thing, but just like, "oh, thht really upsets me to see that," well, that could be just about anything. one of the reasons why i became a was becaue i with s sudents, and i think the danger of an enforcement of a warning is that it can end this exchange and discourse that we hold, we almost cherish, at a university level. work in a public library, and so we select materials of all different kinds, and we have classified a juvenile colletion, a young adult collectioo, and then aa adult collection, but no one is prevented from reading in any of those collections. the young adult collection is, sometimes they're in fourth grade, or fifth grade, but they read at a re

undergrad see the increase at the start of the next school year. undergrad students from iowa at i-s-u and u-n-i are not expected to see an increas next year since the board previously upped tuition at the institutions starting with the upcoming spring semester. the increases come after state lawmakers failed to approved the regents funding request. elias: we're back with meterologist james peterson... james: (james adlibs) james: weather adlib: thursday is starting out a lot better than yesterday! clear skies and cool temps will give way to much warmer temperatures, up into the low to mid 40s under mostly sunny skies this afternoon! we will do even better come friday with ample sunshine and temps pushing up into the upper 40s and even low 50s for the metro! conditions will stay mild over the weekend, but some clouds will be coming in saturday be thick enough to produce some rain showers late saturday night into early sunday morning. right now, i think the showers will be gone by sunrise sunday, which should lead to a pretty decent day as the sunsh

>> guest: i think when i was an undergrad i was initially enchanted by the way a poem and looking atomething that was so small, vocal and perhaps seemingly inconsequential could open up a powerful kind of revelation for the reader and the more i thought about it the more i attempted to write and i realized the revolution was happening and it was this premeditated thing making choices in language and listening and taking the next that. it's almost like a pursuit. it seemed like a really helpful tool with which to examine the everyday as i knew it. at that time in my life although i wasn't consciously making the connection between poetry and some of the larger experiences that i was wrestling with with my mother's illness, being able to stop time and a poem and ask all the right questions, the kinds of questions that you need to in real time. it seemed like a power that i really needed. i wasn't writing many poems that were directly about my mother's illness at the time but i think that thinking about memory and again taking about looking at the right thing in the right way they could

but that three percent increase, whh totals about 100 dollars for full time undergrads, only applied to iowa state and northern iowa. the university of iowa was exempt from that increase. kcrg t-v nine's iowa city bureau chief mark carlson joins us live. mark, is this the final increase for next year? bruce, well it really comes down to the amount of funding the legislature will give the universities in the future. but this discussion is likely far from over. it was a busy day for the regents. as noted they approved a plan that will cost in-state university of iowa undergraduate student's an tra 100 dollars per semester. 2016. gotten use to tuition freezes, as there have been many of them over the coursef the last couple of years. they haven't raraed tuition school year. one student who has benefited from those freezes says he doesn't see future increases as that big of deal. "i think three percent or 100 dollars added ttuition here is rerely negligible compared to the price, so i don't think it will affect people too much, so i don't see it being a big problem. " as noted it wawaa b

. >> carolyn is an undergrad at the university of new england shark and research lab. she is one of the most crucial jobs, using this veterinarian's ultrasound to see if the shark is pregnant. >> tiger shark are tough because they're so massive, we can't get the whole uterus in one shot. >> this shows that this shark was not pregnant. the next major task, surgery to implant this transmitter inside the shark. >> this is the size of a small battery but it has enough battery power to transmit you will are a sonic signals for serve years while the animal is out there swimming. >> the they take detailed measurements. >> tiger sharks, which are predatory sharks, are really built, in many cases, ambush. they're made for short bursts of speed. >> what you look at the tiger shark what can you tell me about its feature. >> the first thing you'll notice is their large blunt head. the their athlete are designed almost like a can open. >> blood and finish samples are taken before the hook is removed from the mouth and the shark released. the whole process takes about 20 minutes. >>

that totals to about 100 dollars for full time undergrads. students at the university of iowa were exempt from students at iowa are somewhat used to tuition freezes. the school hasn't raised tuition since the 2012-2013 school year. one student who has benefited from those freezes says he doesn't see future increases as that big of a deal. "i think three percent or 100 dollars added to tuition here is really negligible compared to the price, so i don't think it will affect people too much, so i don't see it being a big problem. " there could be additional increases depending on the amount of funding the legislature gives the universities. hawkeyes fans are feeling the hype, now only two days out from the big ten championship game. the undefeated hawks will take on michigan state in indianapolis on saturday. scheels sporting goods in the coral ridge mall has been busy with people buying hawks gear. the challenge for employees and retailers across the area is just trying to keep things in stock. scheels says some products like undefeated 12-and-

the regents approved a 3% increase for undergraduate tuition at iowa for the however tuition for undergrads , at iowa state and northern iowa will stay at the level they will be next spring. the regents also approved a $500 tuition increase for international students at iowa state. steve: meteorologist kurtis gertz is here to do one thing, and that is make us smile. kurtis: i think i go to the polls of extra ships, i have two kids coming to university of asteroid iowa state next year. a cold air over northwestern iowa. that is where the snowpack is. 47 degrees today. someone, 43. waterloo, 44. it comes the smiling part. yes a father early on but then we break -- some father early on but then we break free quickly to sunshine. weekend, sunshine saturday. late day clouds. sunday, a week system moves through. you may get a shower or two before sunrise. steve: the american institute of business says it has sold off part of its southside des moines campus for $2.25 million. the 3 apartment buildings sold are on the southwest corner of the campus. the 60 furnished units are now part of the bell t

in a survey of 126 undergrad students, researchers at binghamton university found that texts that end with a period were thought to be less sincere. so what are you supposed to do if you're into punctuation? what about an exclamation point. they were perceived as more sincere than no punctuation at all. they gave this serious thought. >> period. >> that's right. someone. >> unbelievable. comings and goings for the yankees, and the jazz playing a sad tune on melo and company. here, at cancer treatment centers of america in philadelphia, we give our patients the freedom to make appointments that fit their schedules, even on weekends. because we believe in being here when our patients need us, so they can keep living their busy lives. weekend appointments are now available here. gorgeous, isn't he? (vo) a new york man spent $3.2 million on a dead bat. i have such enormous respect for these creatures. which is why i stuff them and hang them on the walls. (vo) you'd make a way better rich person. >>> going on the road, otis is here with sports. >> thinks not working out so well at home, le

and they used a group of undergrads as the control for their study. on top of this, the washington post reports forthcoming research showing using and ex clam make marco make your message more sincere. >> i thought it would be the opposite. >> i thought i was overusing the exclamation mark. >> using it after every other word, it feels like you have a little bit -- you mean it. >> yes. and you are right. >> have a good day. people talking their way out of a ticket. >> a california man had a different approach when he got pulled over for not wearing a seat belt. >> grabbed myself i stick and it was action. >> [ music ] you are so beautiful to me. >> that's tj brace ol, he is a gospel singer, when he told police that is what he disfor a live, he said why don't you prove it, it worked, the three officers let him go. >> bravo. >> i am going to try that. >> i'm sure it is going to work. >>> well we still have more ahead tonight. >>> imagine being able to identify a concussion right after it happened, i'm dr. mallika marshall local company (buzzer) hey, you'

all through my undergrad, i had tried to change majors, i tried. and last year, i worked full-time in a classroom, and i was like, "okay, stop fighting it. apply to the credential program." jessica: the job market is expected to be good for these teachers in training. chelsea brazil: i feel really good because i know that i'm not going to have to stress out like people did years ago about finding a job your first year. jim cirillo: most of our graduates last year had offers from more than one district. jessica: college of education interim dean jim cirillo says he expects enrollment to continue to gradually increase because the job market is strong. jim: there couldn't be a better time to become a teacher. jessica: no one knows yet if a rise in enrollment in credentialing programs can undo years of dwindling teacher numbers. linda: it's not at all clear whether the uptick is going to be enough to staff the demand that is happening now and coming in the future. jessica: but for a teaching profession battered by years of bad news, it is a welcome cha

that totals to about 100 dollars for full time undergrads. students at the university of iowa were exempt from that increase. students at iowa are somewhat used to tuition freezeze the school hasn't raised tuition since the 2012-2013 school year. one student who has benefited from those freezes says he doesn't see future increases bs that big of a deal. "i think three percent or 10000 dollars added to tuition here is really negligible compared to the price, so i don't think it will affect people too much, so i don't see it being a big problem. " there could be additional increases depending on the amount of funding the legislature gives the universities. one woman from linn county is extra thankful for a big gift this crying with applause lucinda alexander learned several area companies chose her as the winner of a new van last night. marion tire, deery brothers and hyvee joined the salvation army to give awau the vehicle apart of a program called miles of smiles. the progogm narrows down nominations it receives from community members. then,

however, tuition for undergrads at iowa state and northern iowa will stay at the level they will be next spring. the regents also approved a $500 tuition increase for international students at iowa state. eric: economic headlines now -- stocks extended losses after news of a possible hike in interest rates the dow was down 252 points. the nasdaq lost 85 points. and the s&p 500 fell nearly 30 points. staples is conceding in order to make a proposed deal with office depot. the two companies are meeting next week with federal trade commission officials, to resolve antitrust concerns stemming from the takeover. staples says it will sell office depot assets with revenues of up to $1.25 billion to win approval. elizabeth: the department of transportation has ordered airlines to pay for damaged luggage. federal authorities say despite what airlines claim, carriers are responsible for damage to zippers, handles, wheels and care. the d.o.t. has opened investigations into several airlines and plans to announce its findings early next month. ugly christmas sweaters are now becoming a holiday tradit

undergrad nadir... who youcan see praying here.... tells memehe either has to pray at home or drive from here to the islamic center in waterloo in order to pray... he and his friends even bought a "its expensive for me and we have to pay the insurance and we have to pay it's cost overall... but we have to do any choice for it." and he says not everyone is able to buy a car.... some students have to resort to praying in a corner in the hallway or the library so they now u-ni does have a room muslim students can go to for prayer.. and i saw it yesterday...and it's not that big.... students at u-n-i alongwith iowa state and the university of iowa are asking for a permanant space open throughout the day that students can easily access... we've got you covered live in cedar falls... amanda gilbert... kwwl news. u-n-i staff tells kwwl the administration is looking into it and working with students... a mother is frustrated after no charges can be filed against a woman who atteteted to take her son from a school bus stop. thankfully the boy

undergrad nadir... who you can see praying here.... tells me he either has to pray at home or drive from here to the islamic center in waterloo in order to pray... he and his friends even bought a car so hey would noomiss prayer time.... "its expensive for me and we have to pay the insurance and we this..otherwise we don't have any choice for it." and he says not everyone is able to buy a car.... some students have to resort to praying in a corner in the hallway or the library so they don't miss class.... now u-n-i does have a room muslim students can go to for prayer.. and i saw it yesterday...and it's not that big...... iowa state and the university of iowa are asking for a permanant space we've got you covered live in u-n-i staff told kwwl the administration is looking into this and wooking with tte students... an early peek at november job growth is looking good. payroll processor a-d-p says the private sector added 217- thousand jobs last month. analysts say that's higher than expected... and makes it more likely the fed will rais

undergrad students from iowa at i-s-u and u-n-i are not expected to see an increas next year since the previously upped institutions the upcoming the increases come after state lawmakers failed to approved the regents funding request. elias: in urbandale, a retired new york firefighter will be presenting a piece of steel from the world trade center to a local business. elias: carpet one will be receiving the piece in recognition of its support for the building for bravest battalion chief ed breeen will present the piece of steel for the towers...breen was among the brave first responders on duty during the 9-11 attacks. governor branstad is also scheduled to be part of the ceremony. elias: meteorologist james peterson joins us again with a look at your forecast. james: weather adlib: thursday is starting out a lot better than yesterday! clear skies and cool temps will give way to much warmer temperatures, up into the low to mid 40s under mostly sunny skies this even better come friday with ample sunshine and temps pushing up into the 50s for the metro! conditions will stay mild over th

he'll boost state aid for undergrads. he will propose $100,000 for sexual assault study. the study will decide whether the state should investigate sexual assaults on college campuses. >>> well, you know, you can always check in on mei shan and her panda cub. we'll check in on her because we'll get our first face-to-face interaction with bei bei. the media preview. video from panda cam hanging out. we'll let you know as soon as we can get some live feed from the panda cam. the public will be able to see bei bei in january. >>> what the feds are making metro do to address more than 100 safety issues. >>> we're off to a cool start. tom promising a pretty day. what to expect in the next 12 hours. >>> tobacco may do more >>> the time is 5:08. metro leaders are addressing hundreds of safety issues. they were told to fix more than 200 issues in the system. according to the washington post some of the issues date back to seven years that haven't been addressed. metro now has 30 days to respond to the directive. it says it's already working on making changes. >>> in congress lawm

he will announce plans to boost the state's financial aid for undergrads by $48 million. the governor will also propose $100,000 for a sex assault study. that will decide whether the state should investigate sexual assaults on college campuses. >>> in maryland they'll walk parents through disappointing test scores. park scores came out in prince gorges county. 15% of students got math scores that put them on track for college. you can go to capitol heights if you want to be part of the conversation. >>> a live look at the panda cam at the national zoo. let's check in. >> they're missing! >> they're not missing. they're in there sleeping somewhere. we will get our first face-to-face meeting with bei bei for a media preview. we'll bring you a preview as soon as we can get it. you can get your first meeting with bei bei in january. >>> d. dot is trying to get the city's h street street car line up and running. the milestone reached in the last 40 minutes and the changes you'll notice along that line. >>> breaking news along the roads and rails. red line single tracking and b

according to a study at binghampton university, they looked at 160 undergrads to look at text messagesa chance of just experimenting with greg gutfeld on a text exchange. look at this look how rude he is. i said greg, do you want to go to chipotle with me. he said no. with a period. i said why not i'm in the mood for a burrito bowl. because it will kill you he said, with a period. and i was offended. >> he tried to save your life because of the e. coli. >> it's the -- that gives you diarrhea. >> my love of christmas and christmas decorations, are going crazy here in new york city. my love of christmas and air travel are in conflict because the newest thing in christmas lights is laser displays. and recently, a pilot flying over dallas one of those lasers hit his cockpit window at 15,000 feet it created a whole blinding light situation. the faa is starting to crack down on laser christmas lights, a warning for all of you who like me, just love and are dazzled by christmas lights displays. >> didn't anybody figure this out. it's so obvious, it's one pointer to screw someone up in the air

steve: its founders were surprised to learn how many young undergrads need extra support while away from home. >> reporter: college students strapped for cash no longer have to choose between paying the rent or their next meal. this is a non-profit food pantry on the campus in garden city. it's part of a growing trend on campuses nationwide to fight >> they choose the kind of cereal they want or pasta or rice or grains. they can take vegetables. >> the executive director saw the issue firsthand. she used to keep boxes of food in the trunk of her car to help the students who had no choice but to skip meals. now the students, as well as faculty, have access to this fully functional food pantry three days a week a few hours each day. it already services nearly 100 guests, including this sophomore. landlord. i don't have money to go to the grocery store and get a couple of things. so this place actually is a blessing. >> reporter: this volunteer stands behind what he says is such an important cause. >> to see people come in and leave with food and they know they won't have to drop out of the

>> guest: i think when i was an undergrad i was initially enchanted by the way a poem and looking atomething that was so small, vocal and perhaps seemingly inconsequential could open up a powerful kind of revelation for the reader and the more i thought about it the more i attempted to write and i realized the revolution was happening and it was this premeditated thing making choices in language and listening and taking the next that. it's almost like a pursuit. it seemed like a really helpful tool with which to examine the everyday as i knew it. at that time in my life although i wasn't consciously making the connection between poetry and some of the larger experiences that i was wrestling with with my mother's illness, being able to stop time and a poem and ask all the right questions, the kinds of questions that you need to in real time. it seemed like a power that i really needed. i wasn't writing many poems that were directly about my mother's illness at the time but i think that thinking about memory and again taking about looking at the right thing in the right way they could

>> two youngsters, maria rose belling an undergrad at american university a friend of hers named grantedn a law student at georgetown university who looked at what we are doing with hungner this country where you have democrats throwing money at it and republicans largely ignoring it and they decided to put together a plant form that hooks food pantries up with restaurants and other food producer who's have surplus food and are one app. at a time solving hunger to. me they reflect what's going on in this country right now. we have million and million of social entrepreneurs mainly young doing things that government can't or won't do. it reminds knee in 1993 if you remember bill clinton famously said there is not a problem in america that's not being fixed somewhere in america. the problem at the time it government wasn't equipped to bring it to scale and people didn't have the power. now because of the internet young people like rose maria and grant nelson have the power to feed people and fix other big problems. >> that's a great story. although bill clinton said the era of big governme

he carries this undergrad idea as america imperial power.s going to be a new american leader who would first confess our sins, try to redress them and he has this underlying idea which is part of this anti-imperialist mind set that we are the cause of a lot of the blow-back. that we are the ones-i what does he say guatemala is a a -- guantanamo is recruiting agent a. you dare say radical islam. that's a recruiting element to bring in more terrorists. whereas, in fact, whatever we do, it makes no difference whatsoever. the terrorism began along before iraq. long before abu ghraib. long before guantanamo. it began in the 1990s. >> look at afghanistan and what we supplied to the mujahideen to get them out of there. lock, there are two schools of thought. there is my school which says mr. obama's incompetent. he is james buchanan. we have mentioned that president before who botched everything and then the civil war broke out. he is incompetent. can't do the job. but then there are the people who believe he is doing it all on purpose. he wants to

company, i did a little research because my undergrad's engineering. and this company has government contracts. >> host: all right. gene, we got the point. tyson's corner, of course, is here in the washington suburbs, a high-tech area. >> guest: yeah. we have an entire chapter in the book on how the f-1 foreign student visa program has been exploited as another one of these alternative channels to bring in all of these cheap foreign students, and that's tied to the optional practical training program. and i think it's interesting again to note that these calls are coming from the democratic line, and the independent line and the republican line. and we really think that we've struck a nerve here, because if all we do, if all we can serve to do is amplify these voices of america's best and brightest who have -- this is not news to them. but what this is is really a wake-up call to the beltway, to those crapweasels, i'll say it one more time on c-span, to talk about this collusion. and i think that this is really one of key issues, the it's a breakout is

the chance to come off first time in our's history, go to college at santa clara university, both undergradt law school, and then service in the army, and then going back as a legislative assistant to the u.s. senator and all of the other career positions i have held. what we have here at the institute is kind of a history of some of those periods in my life. the secretary of defense presentation. it shows a lot of my visits to the troops around the world. of of the things i am proud it in this picture of the president is the picture of those that were involved with eliminating don't ask don't tell. this is a picture of the president looking at me during the state of the union and saying good job. interestingly enough, there was a mic there that picked it up. they were all asking the question -- what did the president mean? later, we had to indicate that it was because we had completed a mission to rescue a hostage in the middle east. they did a great job. this is my cia wall. a lot of metals. a lot of coins that are distributed among everyone there. most importante thing about this wall is

position but sometimes it worked and sometimes it flopped, and sometimes especially in the case with undergrads, pages violently desperate to decide the way to do that is to take over the office, which is okay. sometimes you get a day off that way. [laughter] >> take over the castle and sleep in a. spent walter, you can take over the castle anytime you want. >> did you have a question? >> i just want to follow up quickly on your comment that you didn't want to over focus on stem. and stimp of course is well-established recovery does what we mean when we say stem but there is also now steamed. and i wonder if the smithsonian in your emphasis is not over focusing on s.t.e.m. will be willing to push the idea of steam, user comes persuasive powers to make steam as well fixed in the american psyche as the s.t.e.m.? >> it's terrible to admit this in such a broad audience. i know quite a bit of what this team is. it's all right. and that is i'm always concerned that we don't portray the arts and the communities as handmaidens to the sciences. >> exactly. >> so by adding someone to s.t.e.m. i think, if

and sometimes, especially in the case with undergrads, they just violently disatwrie and decide the wayis to take over the office. which, okay. >> you can take over the castle and even sleep in it. >> you can take over the castle anytime. you have to take over richard too. >> i wanted to follow up quickly on your comment that you didn't want to overfocus on stem. and stem of course is well-established. everybody knows what we mean when we say stem. but there is also now steam. and i wonder if the smithsonian and your focus is going to be able to push the idea of steam, use were your persuasive powers to make steam as well-fixed in the american psyche as stem. >> it's terrible to admit this in such a broad audience. >> you don't know what stem is? >> i know quite a bit of what steam is. i'm always concerned that we don't portray the arts and the humanities as handmaidens to the sciences. >> exactly. >> so by adding something on to stem, if you don't think about it very deeply, obviously you have thought about it deeply. one might through it's important to have the arts in order to comple

. >> i'm an undergrad here and maybe speechwriting advisory group and i think this is a more general speechwriting question. are there any crutches that you see used a lot in speechwriting perhaps specific to presidential administrations? and then do you guys have any pet peeves? let's give the other question and then we can tackle them both. >> my question is if you're in a position that is so much pressure all the time, you spoke earlier when you might make a mistake and the american public take something that you wrote in a direction you would not intended, how would you deal with the disappointment or is there anyway, our strategy to discover pop back up and get right back into it after you've been beaten down? >> the questions are questions that i know you do -- on what you have a crush. >> you just get used to some of this stuff. i wrote a speech that, on education, woke up the next day to a david brooks column titled a speech about nothing. [laughter] you know, there are plenty of other speeches where you just, you would write this thing, deliver it and just get hammered on th

but you know, i would also offer that universities by design, university of texas, as i was undergraduld walk through, you would have many issues i didn't agree with and lobbies i didn't agree with putting messages in front of me. they are designed to be a place of thinking and understanding an perspective. martha: some might argue these offices of diversity to need to sort of do something to generate their paycheck and make themselves worthwhile. so this is thing they have generated as they send this home for christmas holiday. i want to get this yale in because a filmmaker went on campus of yale and interviewed people. we call it, sort after man on the street interview. asked them essentially if they thought it would be good idea to banish the first amendment. here is what some of them said. >> we're calling for petition to repeal the first amendment. just get rid of it. blow it up, get rid of it. >> i think this is fantastic. i agree. >> thank you. >> excellent. love it. >> thank you. martha: excellent, love it. fan fantastic idea. tucker, what do you think? >> the irony the first

. >> i am an undergrad here and we have a speechwriting advisory group and i think this is a more general speechwriting question. are there any that you see used a lot in speechwriting perhaps specific to presidential administrations and then do you have any peeps? >> let's get to the other question is then we can tackle those on. >> if you are in the position that has so much pressure all the time you spoke a little bit about earlier. in the public it takes something that you wrote in the direction that you haven't intended how would you deal with disappointment or is there any way or strategy to kind of pop back up and get right back into it after you've been beaten down? >> so things that annoy you and times when you need a crutch. [laughter] you just get used to some of this stuff you need i wrote a speech on education and rope up -- woke up on a speech titled to nothing. [laughter] they are funny little speeches where you deliver great and just get hammered on the news. >> the things that are happening, the president was going to the drug summit in columbia. first off, the speech was

especially the case with undergrads, they just disagree and decide the final way to do is to take overhe office. sometimes it is ok. sometimes you get a day off. walter, you can take over the castle anytime you want. >> i just wanted to follow quickly on your comments that you do not want to over focus on stem. well-established, everybody knows what we mean when we say it. smithsonian and your emphasis on not focusing on stem is willing to push the idea of steam and use your powers can make it well fixed in the american psyche. it is terrible to admit this to the audience. i know quite a bit about what it is. i'm always concerned that we do not trade the arts and humanities as handmaidens to the sciences. adding something onto stem, if you do not think about it very deeply, one might think, well, it is important to have the arts because it order to complete thinking about some scientific thing you have to think about it conceptually or communicatively. there is also this value of perception that i cannot get any other way. so i struggle, as silly as it sounds, i struggle with it is a g

catholic a institution, educating the heart and the mind at least where it and giving the world-class undergradience with a great residential life. jimmy can add to that as a trustee of notre dame. jimmy: you are doing just fine. [laughter] david: please stay with us. erik schatzker is live with us where he will have an exclusive interview with the ceo, hunter harrison at the top of the next hour. erik: good morning. if you were going to plan a $30 billion takeover, would you pick a better place than this? jimmy, i know you might pick a golf course but this is the hh , where hunter harrison, the chief executive of canadian pacific is trying to orchestrate -- this is where he raised his show jumping horses -- but this is where he was trying to take over norfolk southern. i will be talking to mr. harrison in about 15 minutes time after 8:00. an exclusive interview. what is his next move? what does he make of the fromnts from math rose -- matt rose. hunter harrison will answer those questions for us. david: we are looking forward to that. the top universities making millions off the sports program

no, i started doing what i wanted right after undergrad and i stuck with it.ry hard at it. if you are on the path, there is no need to take a detour. stephanie: when charles sandberg said that, people and graduate schools panicked. what are your thoughts? i would even take it down to the college level. my business is sales trading. you can teach people the techniques of have to cover accounts, listen, develop ideas and i think you could teach them that out of high school. thing to is not a bad do if you are on the wrong path. if you are doing something out of school and the world opens up a little and you realize, i want to do this, but to get into this, maybe i have to go back to school. i think that is a good reason to get a secondary degree, but if you are on the right path at 21 years old -- david: so push a little further. we had a senior google official who said he had three ceos and none of them have graduated from college. stephanie: uber told us that. david: i beg your pardon. ean: college is very expensive. the value of graduating from college is not