secret life of a unibomber. >> when she said i think your brother is a unibomber, i said this is nothingout i've never seen ted violent. >> but their suspicions kept growing. >> they posted the first few pages of the manifesto on the screen in the library and dave went with me and as he read the first page his jaw dropped. >> i thought i was going to read the first page and turn to linda and say see i told you so but at a emotional level it sounded like my brother's voice. >> the family made the wrenching decision to contact the fbi. >> thought about the families that were bombed. there was one in which the package arrived to the man's home and his little two-year-old daughter was there. the room wh he opened the package. luckily she left. and his wife left. and then he died. and there were others. so i spent those days thinking about those people. >> that tip from patrick would end up being the linchpin to lead to ted kizski in 1996 at his trial he was diagnosed with a serious mental illness, paranoid schizophrenia. >> he exchanged for life in priz kbroon. >> he is still in prison behin

people have been erroneously stating all day that this is unibomber 2.0. this is far worse.s the lodgest case. 16 devices in 17 years. we now, if this link analysis can be confirmed, we now have seven devices in two weeks. this is a far greater investigation, far more important. i think the police caught a lucky break in finding some of these devices before they exploded to conduct that link analysis. but this is a far more severe case. why? this bomber is showing you his entire portfolio. three of these devices were left on the east side of austin. they were left on porches and dropped off. one was on the west side of austin and comprised of a trip wire which acted as a switch. he is showing you three different types of delivery systems, three different types of victim activated bombs. i could see it on law enforcement faces today. they are worried and concerned and trying to get out in front of this. >> back in the 1970s, there were significant numbers of bombings in the united states. radical groups and the like. it's not something we have really seen much over the last s

it harkens to the days of the unibomber in the days of ted kaczynski and the fbi discovered him but not until he published the manifesto recognized by a relative of his which is why the authorities in texas are asking for this bomber to contact them somehow so they can quote, understand his message. if you get a message out there in public from this bomber, there's the potential, as there was in the kaczynski investigation for somebody to recognize this and help the police zero in on the suspect. >> sandra: john roberts at the white house for us. another update in moments. in the meantime, i want to bring in senator john kennedy from louisiana on the senate judiciary committee. thank you for joining us. as you can hear, there's so much going on at this moment. at this hour a countdown it on to fund the government by the end of the week. where do things stand this morning, senator? >> we're negotiating with our democratic colleagues. we need a budget. it's embarrassing that we don't have one. everybody else in america has a budget except the entities you think should take the lead and th

she helped to track town the unibomber. what would she do to track them bomber dpouvenlt mary o'toole. thank you for join us us on the phone. what are your initial thoughts on this? >> initially, i look at the amount of the activity that this individual is involved in over the last several days. that really suggests that heap had to be very busy in at least building the devices. or pleting. them and placing them. and what that means, you can see someone escalated in their activity, they can make mistakes and that's what we want. we want him to make mechanic teases and leech behemmed criminal evidence. and it puts him apt much greater risk for being oichd much>> and much neiman-marcus the sevees much attacks and african-american minorities and his packics. and that they are racially motivated. what is your sense of this? >> well, my sense of this, is that it is it too early to identify a specific motive. and the reason for that, he's escalated in his behavior. it is possible that the early victims were specifically targeted

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you worked on the unibomber case, you worked on the atlanta olympic bombings. what happens to the investigation now? >> we're going to have a slow roll, post-blast investigation, on i-35. because the bomber blew himself up, so that's going to be a pretty big mess. he's got a lot of fragmentations, probably, fragments in his body. they'll have to do a full postmortem on that. they'll have to get all the bomb debris out of the car, get it out of the highway. that's going to take a while. they'll go to his residence. that's going to have to be slowly secured by the bomb squad because he could have trip wires and trip devices in there. they'll want to get in there and do a regular physical search plus a search for his digital media, computers, cellphones, ipads, et cetera, to see if there's anything on there. then there's the search for, could there possibly be co-conspirators or aiders and abetters. that will be a focus of the task force. they'll be working certainly through the whole week. they're trying to establish that. if they can, you know, establish that he

two bombings in 1982 and 1985 at corey hall at uc berkeley unibomb. why was that so comfortable.e taught math at the building right around the corner. those are the kind of things that we can learn from the past and kinds of things we can apply to the situations now. even though now it appears very random and tough. i guarantee you over time as they stay with the fact and separate fact, fiction and theory. they will start seeing patterns develop that will be unique and applicable to the person they are looking for. and eventually they will be able to give the public the right information and as we know from the history of working together, law enforcement, the media and the public, all of these things could be brought together and solved. >> tucker: terry, thank you very much. good to see you tonight. >> you bet. >> tucker: city councilman here in washington, d.c. says that bad weather is part of an international plot by jewish bankers. mark steyn weighs in on that claim next. i accept i don't bike the miles i used to. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a t

criminal profiler who played a critical role catching the unibomber ted kaczynski. big news from the news conference, jim. 25-minute recording that he made on his bone. obviously that is the manifesto and the explanation that everybody has been looking for. we didn't learn a lot -- we learned what he didn't say. nothing about terrorism, nothing about hate. chief of police said that it was an outcry of a challenged young man that focused on his personal life. your thoughts? >> sure, martha. we have heard it before even with the school shooters or snipers. these people have individual, long-term problems, psychological issues. if they have access to a gun, they may use that. if they have access to bomb-making materials, they will utilize that. if it's driving a truck in a crowd, they will utilize that. the more i am hearing today about this guy, he is so fits description of a classic serial bomber or a serial sniper. cho at virginia tech sent off videotapes to a news network to explain why he did what he did. when we went inside kaczynski's cabin in montana in 1996, t

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we have computers now that we didn't have back in unibomb.llect and then a lot of information including up to to photographs and give an example of how these things come together. the olympic bombing they had no cameras in centennial park in 18996, what they did was hundreds of agents literally fanned out, interviewed and found anybody and everybody in the park that night and asked a question did you take photos. got the photos and made this massive display at the command post literally accounting for every second of that time. and we could do things like that now that we couldn't ever do back then. that may help as well. steve: terry, before what blew up in schertz, texas overnight, people down there that i have been watching the atf and fbi people saying that the latest device, which was left alongside a road that ratchets everything up because it's much more sophisticated. it had a trip wire. this new device apparently was so durable, it could last the ride in the truck to the fedex facility and it, you know, it was able to survive a whole