wife dr. catherine horton is a former high energy physicist and research fellow at the university of oxford, england and his investigating directed energy weapons. bill benny has accomplished a lot in his life. he likely didn't expect to count himself among the americans who have experienced the effects of havana syndrome. well, talk to him about the possibility that this is in fact a weapon. bill. catherine, welcome for so happy to have you. going to be with me here to bill katherine. let's begin with the basics of havana sand drum. this seemed to come as a surprise to just about everybody. and indeed, it wasn't even discovered until 2016, based on what you know, what are the signs of havana syndrome? and why haven't we heard about it or it's symptoms before 2016? well, my wife is more adapted answering that, but what i know about those types of single into that was these, that some of this very similar kind of thing occurred in the moscow embassy in the early 1970. and it was due to microwave radiation. and i think that that's probably says something to do with this somehow that we do. yeah. i, i