. >> secretary blinken notwithstanding unperceived oaken tendencies foreign aid in these countries and get them to obtain humanitarian integers in which aides -- ed is no longer require producer look at the longer-term goals what are some measurable benchmarks that might indicate indicate if a country is effectively utilizing u.s. assistance to improve governance combat terrorism and what if any country can you pull out that could be viewed as a model of success? >> i pretty much agree with general jones. we are trying to work by with and through local partners to build their capacity but with them along the way. you are exactly right that ultimately success for the foreign assistance businesses to get out of that business. we want people to get on their own feed to be able to be effective and to provide for their own citizens. indeed ideally we would like to channel as much as possible to the private sector and have a work that way. but in the near term as a look at these programs that what we are trying to do is develop clear measures and metrics of effectiveness and to give you one