when you install solar panels, you're still reliant on the local utility. when it's dark or when the sun isn't shining, you need the grid to provide electricity. even so, solar customers have a fundamentally different relationship with the utility because when the sun is shining any extra energy their panels generate is supplied back to the grid. that earns a credit, further reducing their electric bill. but in areas of oahu, with so many homeowners going solar, the utility said the safety and reliability of the grid could be threatened, and it slowed to a crawl the approval of new systems. >> we've made a lot of progress, but we know there is still a lot to do as we increase rooftop solar. >> reporter: colton ching is vice president for energy delivery at hawaiian electric company, or heco as the utility is known. >> what was happening was that power, which normally flows from the grid to our customers, was now beginning to flow back into those substations, substations which were not 30, 40 years ago designed to operate in that manner. >> reporter: in addi

as i mentioned committed to a 30% lbe utilization goal. they currently serve as the control of financial advisor, work with san francisco airport, mta and puc and work with the port since 2009. >> thank you, eileen, deputy director. we are retaining financial advisor primarily we've used heavily for bond sales. while we don't anticipate selling revenue bonds in the near term we want to always have them in our hands in case we change our mind. the port does have bonding capacity at the moment and has since i have arrived but it has at capital policy at this time. we would need to find lucrative near term cash return projects to issue revenue bonds in the near term. pfm will be helping us with cfd i sd structure for the city and the giant lot c 37 projects as they will come and also we are leaning on our financial advisor moore in the realm of financial modeling and pfm's last contract put in future perfect to the budget cash look at the world and balance sheet look at the world to look at near term changes in how that changes bond capacity

but we found one utility in our area allows that to happen.it has the state support to keep doing it. a natural gas expert tells us that practice is an explosion waiting to happen. this is the aftermath of a house explosion in hartford connecticut. the cause, a natural gas leak inside a vacant house where the service is left on. we found example after example after example of explosions at vacant properties across the country. >> a lot of issues in terms of safety. >> mark mcdonald is a natural gas expert and an advocate for natural gas safety. he tells us some gas companies use what is known as a soft shutoff or soft off. that's when a customer kanscancels service and moves out. instead of turning off service to the property the utility company closes the customer's account but leaves the gas flowing into the home. >> if there's a leak there's no one there to smell the leak. >> we checked with the five largest suppliers in our area. peco new jersey natural gas, south jersey gas and delmarva tell us they do not use soft shutoffs. but philadelp

i am the assistant manager of water at the san francisco public utilities commission. if we can bring up the slides please. i have a number of slides to present here. as was mentioned i will be joined by tim who is the manager of our natural resources and land management's division, the division that only existed for less than 10 years now to make sure we're really properly managing all of our natural lands in our watersheds. as you mentioned previously our peninsula watershed is about 23,000-acres perfected from 1930 and owned and managed by the puc. there are two watersheds in the peninsula area. they are actually the drainage area that feeds in many different reservoirs in the area so one of the things about the land here as mentioned is the need to protect the water quality in the peninsula and accounts for a significant part of the water source and we want to make sure it's of high quality and it's a state designated wildlife roughage and has easements administered by the group that is important and part of the golden gate reserve and this has been protected for a

utilities.are in a tremendous generational transformation to a world in which demand for the commodity is declining, people are interested in new options, and they are looking to their utilities to be customer facing and provide new services. emily: corey, you're nodding your head vigorously. cory: i am very positive especially when it comes to tesla. it is expensive to move power around, but the last mile is enormously expensive. nancy, i wonder if as far as consumer uses go if the variability of rates, which they don't really have in california where you pay more at 5:00 when everyone is running their air-conditioner. right now, you say the same amount in the middle of the night. if there was variability, that would make more sense on a consumer level. nancy: absolutely. it's really trying to maximize the use of distributed power and storage. where is the grid strengthened by drawing power from it? is it from your battery, is it from your solar array, is it from your grade? the software as ale

cruz to the contributions to the san francisco public utilities commission mr. cruz (clapping). >> thank you madam president members of the commission emile cruz my last day of the jgsd of the public utilities commission thank you for the resolution i'm going to use that to negotiate my next job (laughter) but i want to thank you for the opportunity to say a few words it's been two short years it's an, an honor and privilege to serve the puc and the rate pays and the city as a whole my concerns coming in i was coming into a well idle machine is it fair to say under control i want to make sure i could add value to something i knew was in great condition i thought i brought the influence the private sector spend 12 years in the private sector and moving toward the decision processes and metrics that are more prevalent in the public than private sectors i thought i influenced the organization like to think i put my stamp on it and acknowledge mr. kelly but it helped that i was coming in a transition time we were 70 percent into the water policeman program and start

there's utility regulation state by state, interest in certain parts of the country in changing up the fuel mix so there'll be different regulations. the way people get their trist ci is fragmented -- electricity is fragmented by its nature. could we have an intelligence overlooking the network that coordinates this incredible variety of utilities? >> that is a challenge. initially in the early stages, the power grid was built in smaller sections, lending well to the fragmentation. now it comes down to the high levels of usage and consumption that is out there, and they are at odds with the fragmentation of the system. like you mentioned, it really comes down to at the user level people think about it in terms of rates. are my lights on and bills low. the hard part is a lot of power systems are collaborating, working together, because they realise that the power that could be put out to consumers at the local levels is coming from five states away and they can't act in isolation, in the little cylinders or silo, they have to work together. we'll see that in the future. i hope we do. th

all utilities, that includes sewer, gas, water utilities including electrical power. because as you know pier 70 is going through redevelopment and there is a need to upgrade the existing utilities and the utilities that are there until they are upgraded will have to be shared by the tenants. because of udi in beginning to renovate the historic buildings, we need to move out of building one and two the current electrical power source that powers the shipyard. that power source that is capacity of 12 mega watts. so we've negotiated with bae that we are limiting them to the historic peak utilization that is 6.5 mega watts. with 5.5 available of that 6.5 to the power system and the one mega watts would be for the rest of the shipyard. the remaining 5.5 would be allocated to odi to allow them to continue to ramp up and put this historic into higher and better use. we equally put in the new lease what we are calling this line require repair and equipment. this extends to go to the existing building which are port properties as well as the equipment, the equipment of dry do

i am the ag for the public utilities commission. i would like to present a slide show presentation and then we will be able for any questions during the hearing. i would like to say that our general manager harin kelly was here but had to leave for a prior appointment and also with me is staff including stephanie harrison and the author of the people we're developing on the issues with 17th and folsom. if i can go to the powerpoint slide. san francisco is a beautiful city because of its hill sides but that creates certain challenges for us during storms. in particular san francisco has eight independent watersheds or eight independent valleys that have collection points during storms so as a city we need to develop a system that can effectively collect from all of the eight watersheds and deal with the storms as they come. as a combined sewer system we actually capture 94% of the rain that hit it is the city -- hits the city and treat it and discharge. in that regard we're ahead of many cities in the united states and don't collect

year long time the last 5 years and potential 5 years what streets need floup for fiber or the a utility you'll not need all of that the city did 20 to thirty miles for water or water and sewer together so how much would it cost to add utility wires how much more to do that work and how much total that gives the advocates doing the underground activity every year we need to raise x amount of money so go back to the ballot for the voters will you pay for a bond or increase in property tax several ways to a pay for it they actually understand this is how much we need to ask for it may not be as equitable you're following someone else's plans you gives a cost effective way to do that is one of the big suggestions scott wagner having the city and county look at the last 5 years and easily do it and look at the next 5 years to add in the work what does it mean and gives 10 years of averages and give an idea it is one of the bigger things like the city and county steps to take that is outside of lafco purview that's my report on this matter. >> i don't see any questions or comments public comm

motion and memorandum of understanding was created between the puc and the lafco for the ability to utilize costs not to exceed $2.1 million for a virus role for the puc implementation of cca provide are 7 slides i don't intend to review only the first 4 for the clerking support the remain 3 slides provide the current general fund carried forward and the puc carried forward on slide 2 the versus actual in 2008 the board approved the motion authorizing the clerk for additional administrative assistance for the additional support in corneas with the agreement my office charges lafco a $27 million support of costs and half time clerk is about $72,000 a logical and the board agreed to the arrangement that was the exception for the advisors role the frequency of the lafco meetings and the workload due to the sires will increase 3r5ish8 instead of him or her new staff they absorbed the duty and fin they moved the friendly benefits cost from the general fund to the logical carried forward-looking back we understand it never materialize as you can see on table on slide 2 through the clerking servic

and the good news is that the utilities -- it is in utilities interest to be a partner.n tesla's interest to partner. they are in the midst of a tremendous generational transformation from having customers who are homogenous, dependent on a central power station, to a world in which demand for the commodity is declining. people are interested in new options. and they are looking to their utilities to be customer facing and provide new services. emily: you are not in your head vigorously. cory: i'm a very positive person especially when it comes to tesla. i think the expense in building out the power grid -- it is cheapest at the generation of power. it is expensive to move the power around but the last mile is enormously expensive. i want to put the question to you, nancy. as far as consumer use go, i wonder if the variability of rates which we do not have in california, where you pay more to get power in your house at 5:00 when everyone is running their air and their dishwasher and you pay -- right now you pay the same amount in the middle of the night. if there was var

that should benefit utilities. does a tiny that everyone thought proxy, utilities, has been punished in 2015, what does that tell you about the state of the market? >> people got very excited last year about utilities, so they are performed last year, so you have some take back. that is a trend this year. following trends has not been good. you want to be contrary in. those trades have worked well. we want to buy utilities here we are less inclined on some of the u.s. domestic growth stories. we like global dividend plays. scarlet: steer clear of domestic stories. it is clear there is a lot of hot money moving on right now, whether it is u.s. cash in european stocks or cheney's mainland cash to hong kong stocks. how do stocks look relative to bonds? >> we will see as we get earnings, if they show weakness it shows that the strong dollar has had an impact and i has not been a big benefit from the low oil price, we will see pressure on u.s. stocks. it is still hard to own u.s. stocks compared to the rest of the world

, a public utility not unlike that of the utilities that provide other essential services that provide water and electricity. i am certain as the years go on we will increasingly see the cloud as an essential service requiring public oversight to address issues like the environmental privacy, labor, corporate issues that are being raised piece meal today. perhaps it is time to think of the cloud as a public utility. >> "to the cloud: big data in a turbulent world" is vincent mosco most recent book on the information society and common communication. he is joining us from boston but he is canadian and works at queens university in canada. does canada have a different regulatory structure when it comes to addressing these issues? and what about the use of the cloud in your home country? >> guest: there are economic benefits of living in the cold. we house data from companies all over the world because it is easier to keep it cool up north and we have abundant sources of hydro electric power to keep them going. canada's regulatory system is only slightly different from that of the united

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, a public utility, not unlike that of the utilities that provide other essential services like water and electricity. perhaps if we begin to think about the cloud, and i'm almost certain that as the years go on as we did in electricity and water, we will see the cloud as an essential service requiring public oversight to address issues like the environmental privacy, labor, corporate concentration, that are being raised piecemeal today. perhaps it is time to think of the cloud as a public utility. peter: "to the cloud" is vincent 's recent book. he joins us from boston. he is canadian. he is professor emeritus at queens university in canada. professor, how is canada? do they have a different regulatory structure when it comes to addressing these issues ? what about the use of the cloud in your home country? vincent: as i mentioned, canada has more than its share of data centers because of our chillier climate. there are economic benefits to living in the cold. we house data centers from companies all over the world because it is easier to keep servers cooler up north. we have abundan

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california's public utilities commission will vote on the fines for the utility somewhere in the vicinity of $1.5 billion. the 2010 explosion killed eight people and leveled dozens of homes in san bruno. san bruno mayor will speak before the start of the meeting. be sure to watch nbc bay area at 11:00 this morning for an update on today's vote. >>> we may get another view of that disturbing police shooting in south carolina. dash cam video. tracie potts is following this story, she has that plus nbc's exclusive interview with the man who recorded the shooting on his cell phone. >> i thought about his position. >> reporter: here's what fayden santana says he saw before he started recording. >> he had control of scott and scott was trying just to get away from the taser, which the taser, you know, you can hear the sound of the taser. >> reporter: he had been tased at that point? >> yes. >> reporter: his video led to a murder charge against officer michael phleger. police can't explain what he picked up and dropped near the body or why the police officers performed first aid and cpr when the

a spokesman said the utility will not protest. >> we're sorry for events. and we're committed the p.u.c assessed concern about what it calls a safety problem of pg and e. and we need owe a message they can leave incompetent management at the top of pg and e this, is what will happen. >> from mayor, maybe it needs to be spread to different parts. in the neighborhood, recovery continues. >> fines levied prior were nothing to brag about. to match those, or exceed them, isn't anything special. >> in amount of money could bring back my family. >> or, erase the pain. >> labor union representing thousands of workers is weighing in on the idea of splitting the company in two. the head of ibew saying quote, comments suggesting too big to promote safety are misguided. >> substantial damage is the result of a mistake by east bay municipality utility district. a creek is no longer flowing because it's filled with tons of cement. laura anthony joins us live with clean up efforts. >> this was a water fall this morning. and we can see what is left behind. this is cement.

that's still up to the state's two regulated utilities. what these third party providers do is buy energy wholesale, then try to sign up retail customers with offers like these. >> call now and earning money back with 3% back plan. >> states passed laws deregulating their electricity markets. 15 states including texas and most of the northeast. >> it's as if the electric utility is owning the roads and charging you tolls but you can choose which cars to drive on. >> ellen katz heads the office of consumer council in connecticut which has fielded hundreds of complaints about electricity suppliers. >> the marketers who go door to door during the day or get on the phone during the day there's reports of them saying things like, "well i'm from the electric company and you need to make a choice," or "the governor wants you to switch." just outrageous claims. part of what we're doing is trying to crack down on the marketing statements, where they know who they're talking to. >> satsumia, her electric bill amounted to half of her month's wages. >

a spokesman said the utility will not protest. >> we're sorry for events. and we're committed the p.u.c assessed concern about what it calls a safety problem of pg and e. and we need owe a message they can leave incompetent management at the top of pg and e this, is what will happen. >> from mayor, maybe it needs to be spread to different parts. in the neighborhood, recovery continues. >> fines levied prior were nothing to brag about. to match those, or exceed them, isn't anything special. >> in amount of money could bring back my family. >> or, erase the pain. >> labor union representing thousands of workers is weighing in on the idea of splitting the company in two. the head of ibew saying quote, comments suggesting too big to promote safety are misguided. >> substantial damage is the result of a mistake by east bay municipality utility district. a creek is no longer flowing because it's filled with tons of cement. laura anthony joins us live with clean up efforts. >> this was a water fall this morning. and we can see what is left behind. this is cement.

here to date the vpu, the van garde utilities etf is down 3.6%. we'll be back to talk utilities on "power lunch" in two minutes. e financial noise financial noise financial noise >> that's the biggest total ever bringing its total to an all-time high over 10,000. take a look at the shaerz. up 1.9%. tyler, back to you. >> thank you very much. >> if you missed the lunar eclipse on saturday because maybe you were sleeping we thought we maybe could give you another chance to look at. it comes from the griffith observatory in los angeles. the total eclipse lasted five minutes. it was the shortest eclipse of the century. the century is not very old yet. some refer to it as a blood moon because the moon as you can see right there, kayla, glows red. the next blood moon is set to appear on september 28th. >> we can set our alarms ty. let's check some headlines at this hour. shares of microsoft may be down 10% in three months, but up today up by about 2% nearly 3% after the company got an upgrade from wells fargo. wells upgrading microsoft from market perfo

utility scale storage, distributed storage, which is actually very interesting. >> sure. >> and then of course, transportation storage systems, batteries, which of course might also be grid connected in the future. so we are working on all of those. arpa e, for example has had strong support in this area. we have a hub that we have established at argan national laboratory, across the board with novel chemistries, et cetera, to reduce costs. and we are including storage in a lot of our system modeling activities to see exactly how storage can help us achieve our goals in ways that might otherwise be much more complicated. if i may put in a plug, i think the -- we did do a report at senator wyden's request about a year and a half ago, i think on large-scale storage and integration into the grid. and that's very important. i'd like to add, however, that the issue of consumer-level storage combined with distributed generation is getting to look extremely interesting and can be yet another challenge to the utility business model that we have to -- that we have to look at. >> i think that'

the public utilities mission president wonders how effective the fine will be considering the utility a area and worries pg&e is too big to be safe. the president wants to know more. first, he wants to ask the staff to look into the mobility of recovering corporate bonuses to executives as a former of punishment and second, also ask for a study of the structure of utility. an anonymous source said the study will include whether to split the company gas and electric operations. pg&e said they have redoubled the safety train and look forward to hearing the comments. they will take public comment starting at 9:30 for the >>> east bay mud said it could take days to clean up the cement that spilled into a creek in oakland leaking from a pipe behind some town homes. when it was discovered 140 cubic yards of cement flowed into the creek half a mile. east bay mud crews replaced a 24" pipeline and the subcontractor filled the old pipe with cement when it happened. >> a valve was left open while this pipe was being filled and that was a mistake. it should not have happened. >> workers will use