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it's a big bullish call for valero incredible move as of late.he keystone pipeline get approved. so that's a big if. i would hold off on valero. too big of a move. >> let's fast forward to next week. and two of the most highly anticipated reports of the earnings season. facebook reporting third quarter results on thursday stock rocketsing higher by 52% in the past three months. on the back of second quarter numbers. can it keep up this pace? grasso? >> revenue is more than 80% of total revenue. so what they need right now, they need to monetize mobile. we know that. they need more mobile users, they are going to get that. but i still think it's run into a wall of resistance here i wouldn't be a buyer into earnings. >> next up, apple reporting earnings on monday after the bell, we did get a tweet on this. we want to bring this up. from jim bob, mel, we love you. >> jim bob. >> how you doing, jimmy? >> he's asking if apple is a buy, sell or hold before earnings. and after, if it's a beat. >> he's asking me? he addressed -- >> he's asking you. >> ji
it's a big bullish call for valero incredible move as of late.he keystone pipeline get approved. so that's a big if. i would hold off on valero. too big of a move. >> let's fast forward to next week. and two of the most highly anticipated reports of the earnings season. facebook reporting third quarter results on thursday stock rocketsing higher by 52% in the past three months. on the back of second quarter numbers. can it keep up this pace? grasso? >> revenue is more than 80% of...
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valero is lobbying to bring in more dirty crude to the bay area by rail.hat will produce more pet coke. >> we don't want more of this stuff. >> maryland and her neighbors are finding this. >> this is a line and we don't cross it. >> thanks in part to marilyn's group, there will be an environmental impact report before the trains can come through. valero claims that the project won't bring in any dirtier crude than what is now refined. >> chevron usa announcing it is investing 15 and a half million dollars in a project to revitalize the community. this is chevron's biggest initiative to date in contra costa county. it will increase economic development and strengthening education in the richmond school. >> the back and forth continues on capitol hill tonight. the house failed to pass a measure that would partially fund the government. they were looking to keep national parks open. the democrats are looking for what is called a clean bill, one that funds the government and nothing else. >> but i want every american to understand why it did happen. republican
valero is lobbying to bring in more dirty crude to the bay area by rail.hat will produce more pet coke. >> we don't want more of this stuff. >> maryland and her neighbors are finding this. >> this is a line and we don't cross it. >> thanks in part to marilyn's group, there will be an environmental impact report before the trains can come through. valero claims that the project won't bring in any dirtier crude than what is now refined. >> chevron usa announcing it...
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the day begins quietly at the valero convenience store.tomer who goes by the name cowboy makes his routine stop. >> that particular morning i came to the store to get cigarettes like i generally do. i was standing up at the cash register with the money in my hand. >> as cowboy makes his purchase, the peaceful morning turns to chaos. >> and all of a sudden i hear somebody come in and says, get on the floor. they had masks and i see the gun and that was it. went behind the beer cooler and laid down. >> the gunman reaches over the counter and shoots at both men, hitting one clerk in his leg. >> when i hear the shots, that's when i really got scared. because i figured, well you know, this is it. >> as the other clerk shields himself with the counter, a second man jumps through the glass partition and starts digging for cash. a surveillance camera shows the gunman forcing cowboy to stay on the floor. he's scared for his life. >> what was going through my mind, hope they don't come around and shoot me. wasn't nothing i could do. they had me on t
the day begins quietly at the valero convenience store.tomer who goes by the name cowboy makes his routine stop. >> that particular morning i came to the store to get cigarettes like i generally do. i was standing up at the cash register with the money in my hand. >> as cowboy makes his purchase, the peaceful morning turns to chaos. >> and all of a sudden i hear somebody come in and says, get on the floor. they had masks and i see the gun and that was it. went behind the beer...
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valero has had a big move up as has holly.there was a moment where that was the right trade and we are no longer in that moment. we have to wait for a pullback. i want to go to don in new york. don? >> hey, jim. the symbol avax and it's gone down 35% over the past two quarters, i'd like to get some insight, basically it's short term and long-term outlook and at the current price which was told to accumulate. >> people did not like the revenue games there. they were pretty slight actually. we can do more work, but remember what we do say is that these small companies in that particular segment, we think and it's the test analyzer, we think may be under some pressure, we can do more work, but that quarter was not what people liked. what we loved, we hate. when we hated we now love, sister, mother, sister, mother, diversification, once again, is our only free lunch. "mad money" will be right back. >>> coming up, fire extinguisher? palo alto networks had a red hot ipo but this firewall operator has cooled off since its initial spi
valero has had a big move up as has holly.there was a moment where that was the right trade and we are no longer in that moment. we have to wait for a pullback. i want to go to don in new york. don? >> hey, jim. the symbol avax and it's gone down 35% over the past two quarters, i'd like to get some insight, basically it's short term and long-term outlook and at the current price which was told to accumulate. >> people did not like the revenue games there. they were pretty slight...
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politico announced the group had three new contracts including with oil refiner valero. include walmart and the interstate gas association of america, it is no surprise that lincoln has secured these lobbying deals. walmart and comcast which combined spent more than $100,000 on her candidacy. it is a short walk and one that the former senator will be taking quite frequently. we will see you back here at 8:00. >>> hello and welcome to nhk. it's friday, october 18th. i'm catherine kobayashi in tokyo. >>> u.s. federal employees are back at work and americans are lining up for government service and visitors are crowding into national museums.
politico announced the group had three new contracts including with oil refiner valero. include walmart and the interstate gas association of america, it is no surprise that lincoln has secured these lobbying deals. walmart and comcast which combined spent more than $100,000 on her candidacy. it is a short walk and one that the former senator will be taking quite frequently. we will see you back here at 8:00. >>> hello and welcome to nhk. it's friday, october 18th. i'm catherine...
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valero, by the way, claims the rail project won't bring in any dirtier crude than what's being currentlyefind. >> yeah. the governor complimented you on your question, but did you want really answer it. >> that aes true. >> 128,000 barrels a day. >> that's right. it's essentially because it is a be product. it's a dirty by-product, but even though that is the kashgs the refineries do not advertise it. they do both about the extra money it brings in. they are definite hi aware of the revenue coming in. >> getting shipped off to china. >> absolutely. >>> san francisco's top prosecutor is standing by his decision not to file charged against the prime suspect in last week's deadly knife attack. michael montgomery confess dz to stabbing jonathan denver, this man, in self-defense after giants/dodgers game wednesday night. montgomery has since been releesd from jail. . >> the average person goes what more do you need? you have a confession. you have him throwing the knife away. >> you don't have a confession to murders. you have a confession to a self-defense claim. >> what is it you still need
valero, by the way, claims the rail project won't bring in any dirtier crude than what's being currentlyefind. >> yeah. the governor complimented you on your question, but did you want really answer it. >> that aes true. >> 128,000 barrels a day. >> that's right. it's essentially because it is a be product. it's a dirty by-product, but even though that is the kashgs the refineries do not advertise it. they do both about the extra money it brings in. they are definite hi...
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three new contracts with agra giant monsanto communications company comcast and the oil refinery valero ad that's a lincoln policy group's preexisting contracts which include businesses like walmart experience and the interstate natural gas association of america and it's no surprise that lincoln has secured these lobbying deals take a look at two of lincoln's biggest campaign contributors while wal-mart and comcast which combined spend more than one hundred thousand dollars on her candidacy now they're paying her again to be a lobbyist on their behalf it's a short walk from capitol hill to k. street but it's one that the former senator will be taking quite frequently that does it for now we'll see you right back here at eight. well. technology innovation all the developments around russia. for the future are covered. max kaiser this is the kaiser report you know wal-mart and wall street are remarkably similar they are the same sugardaddy all wal-mart relies on cheap goods from china and wall street relies on cheap money from china.
three new contracts with agra giant monsanto communications company comcast and the oil refinery valero ad that's a lincoln policy group's preexisting contracts which include businesses like walmart experience and the interstate natural gas association of america and it's no surprise that lincoln has secured these lobbying deals take a look at two of lincoln's biggest campaign contributors while wal-mart and comcast which combined spend more than one hundred thousand dollars on her candidacy...
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. >> i do like valero.ed the other night that they have the most to gain if the pipeline comes to fruition. you want to stay away from -- they have the least to gain. so all the ones that mike mentioned are buyable. the other ones aren't. >> thanks. check out our website. options action.cnbc.com. you tweet it we trade it. we love answering them so let's get to some of them today. what's stocks take? >> after the beat down a lot of folks will say hey it's cheaper. is is i think that's what many people did, hold off on orders. i think you get a chance to buy it cheaper. >> will it continue? karen. : do you like chub? >> i think it's at an all time high here. if you have a view on rates. if you think rates will go higher then i like the space. >> josh, listen up. i think the ticker on that is tan. >> here is the deal. you can own tan, which gives you exposure in the whole sector. it's definitely global. a ton of china in there. i think they have a ton of potential. >> stanley black and decker. >> certainly
. >> i do like valero.ed the other night that they have the most to gain if the pipeline comes to fruition. you want to stay away from -- they have the least to gain. so all the ones that mike mentioned are buyable. the other ones aren't. >> thanks. check out our website. options action.cnbc.com. you tweet it we trade it. we love answering them so let's get to some of them today. what's stocks take? >> after the beat down a lot of folks will say hey it's cheaper. is is i think...
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institutional money coming into the market, buying out of money coster the december expiration of stocks like valero, texas elk and across the entire space. i think this is an easy play. a relatively stable climate politically. magician of the contract went down again today. breaking through the hundred dollar per barrel level. that is something many say, a key level to launch. how are you feeling today? >> this is a one day thing. it is give the consumer that unleaded gasoline has come down some. a big move after the jobless numbers and then we're looking at the volatility in the treasury market. that has been really volatile and will continue to be volatile for the next few months the fed will stay with this market. and maybe to margarine. the question is, what are you going to do in the taper back? how do you invest in that sort of market. that's all we look forward to. >> they have to have the data. thanks to all of you. the closing bell. fifty-one minutes right now. so when will america's jobs machine start coming in? today's disappointing it's a growing trend in business: do more with less wit
institutional money coming into the market, buying out of money coster the december expiration of stocks like valero, texas elk and across the entire space. i think this is an easy play. a relatively stable climate politically. magician of the contract went down again today. breaking through the hundred dollar per barrel level. that is something many say, a key level to launch. how are you feeling today? >> this is a one day thing. it is give the consumer that unleaded gasoline has come...
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valero energy, third quarter profit shrank 54%.ons for that, their expenses have been climbing. that name is managing to hold on to some good names or good gains as well. back to you. ashley: nicole, thanks very much. we'll check back in with you in just a few minutes. tracy: superstorm sandy damaged one year ago today. can't believe it is a year. still generating business for one midwest company. jeff flock is ahead with the ceo of generac. ashley: in tech minute, how consumer pressure forced at&t to kang he will plans that would have hiked fees. we'll be right back. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: help the gulf recover and learn from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, whe experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safel
valero energy, third quarter profit shrank 54%.ons for that, their expenses have been climbing. that name is managing to hold on to some good names or good gains as well. back to you. ashley: nicole, thanks very much. we'll check back in with you in just a few minutes. tracy: superstorm sandy damaged one year ago today. can't believe it is a year. still generating business for one midwest company. jeff flock is ahead with the ceo of generac. ashley: in tech minute, how consumer pressure forced...
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. >>> quiÉn habrÁ puesto los explosivos en el valero? quiÉn querÍa verme muerto? >>> hijo.ero darte un buen consejo. algo que quede muy guardado en tu memoria que nunca lo olvides. >>> quÉ cosa papÁ? >>> damiÁn siempre ten cuidado, es un mal hombre, capaz de todo por conseguir lo que quiere. como un lobo, con traje de cordero. asÍ que cuidate mucho de Él. >>> quÉ son esos papeles papÁ? >>> damiÁn estos papeles son documentos muy importantes que involucran a fulgencio en un fraude a la empacadora. >>> quiero que lo tengas muy presente. >>> capitÁn, capitan! me mandaron por los papeles. >>> recuerda que se los tiene que entregar y a nadie mÁs. >>> si capitÁn. >>> si ese asÍ, esos documentos los tiene la seÑora artigas. >>> sÍ capitÁn. ♪. ♪. ♪. >>> y descubrir el amor juntos cada maÑana. >>> no me. >>> la ola, la ola. >>> 30 segundos. >>> "la tempestad", a las 9/8 centro por univisiÓn, no se la pierdan seÑores. >>> sÍ. >>> rapidito, gracias a todos los machos, los machos de los paparrines noveleros que enviaron sus fotos apoyando la prevenciÓn del cÁncer de seno por el mes de
. >>> quiÉn habrÁ puesto los explosivos en el valero? quiÉn querÍa verme muerto? >>> hijo.ero darte un buen consejo. algo que quede muy guardado en tu memoria que nunca lo olvides. >>> quÉ cosa papÁ? >>> damiÁn siempre ten cuidado, es un mal hombre, capaz de todo por conseguir lo que quiere. como un lobo, con traje de cordero. asÍ que cuidate mucho de Él. >>> quÉ son esos papeles papÁ? >>> damiÁn estos papeles son documentos muy...
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. >> valero. >> have a great weekend. "pow "power" starts. >> "power lunch" and the second half of the trading day starts right now. >> indeed, it does. we have stocks in rally mode all the signs are pointing to a budget agreement. we don't have one yet. but how should investors position themselves heading into what could be a very interesting weekend. oil taking yet another hit. next year's supply expected to have its biggest growth dump since the 1970s and the u.s. set to overtake russia as the world's biggest oil producer. you have one headline that's relatively bearish for the oil market and the other bullish for oil stocks. jpmorgan and wells fargo out with their earnings reports. they beat the estimates but there are worrisome signs. should investors bank on the banks or not. the top banking analyst on the street. ty is down on the nyse. >> sue, thank you very much. again, stocks as you point out in rally mode. the dow up about 97 points, 96 right now and the standard & poor's back above 1700 at 1702 on this day 11
. >> valero. >> have a great weekend. "pow "power" starts. >> "power lunch" and the second half of the trading day starts right now. >> indeed, it does. we have stocks in rally mode all the signs are pointing to a budget agreement. we don't have one yet. but how should investors position themselves heading into what could be a very interesting weekend. oil taking yet another hit. next year's supply expected to have its biggest growth dump since...
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han combatido con honor son guerreros valeros. >>¡ah, ah! >>pero estÁs herido. >>no. ¡que ninguno quede con vida! ¡>>que no quede nadie! [algarabía] >>corre, escapa rÁpido. ¡niuno! >>gaspar, ofrece esto al seÑor de la vida y de la muerte. [grito >>padre... ¡no! ¡padre! !¡padre!! [♪] [blandir de espadas] >>mamÁ, ¿quÉ te sucede? responde, mamÁ. >>¡maldito baltasar! >>ve tras de las Ánforas, amor, corre, tesoro... >¡no! >>ve, escucha, amor. yo me escondo aquÍ. >>no, mamÁ, yo no me voy, yo quiero estar a tu lado. >>debes pensar en salvarte. por eso, ahora, vete. corre, obedece. ¡obedece! >>¡no... no, noooo! ¡nooo! ¡ayuda! >>¡morirÁn todos! [blandir de espadas] [quejas de dolor] [blandir de espadas] >>¡baltasar! ¡ltasaaar! ¡vas a pagar por la muerte de mi padre! >>¡muere! >>¡maldito! [♪] >>dre, no. ¿de quÉ nos sirve todo esto? [bofetada] >>aprende a estar en tu puesto. >>eres una bestia. tÚ no eres humano. >>baltasar, ya terminamos. ella: dame la mano. >>tiene corazÓn de mujer. se eocupa por los niÑos. >>se escapan. ¿los perseguimos? >>no. ya pensarÁn en volver, cuando ten
han combatido con honor son guerreros valeros. >>¡ah, ah! >>pero estÁs herido. >>no. ¡que ninguno quede con vida! ¡>>que no quede nadie! [algarabía] >>corre, escapa rÁpido. ¡niuno! >>gaspar, ofrece esto al seÑor de la vida y de la muerte. [grito >>padre... ¡no! ¡padre! !¡padre!! [♪] [blandir de espadas] >>mamÁ, ¿quÉ te sucede? responde, mamÁ. >>¡maldito baltasar! >>ve tras de las Ánforas, amor, corre, tesoro......
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a company like bolero -- valero their business model is completely different from the business modelf a company like exxon mobil. when the price of oil gets really high, they're generally not happy because it makes demand decline and hurts the convenience stores. the idea of oil companies all having the same interests is very outdated. the last thing that chevron and exxon mobil can do is control the price of oil. there are at the mercy of the market. exxon mobil formed because the price was at its lowest level. the people at mobile thought it would stay there. the people at exxon did not. they realize that trying to control the price of oil makes [inaudible] look easy. host: a comment on twitter. guest: i will say no. it's one big world market out there. the u.s. import dependence has dropped or medically. i saw a story that looked at oil imports. i think it was "usa today." the number that matters are your net imports. the u.s. is becoming a significant exporter of products. we have the most modern refining system in the world. the u.s. gulf, the rotterdam, antwerp and area, and th
a company like bolero -- valero their business model is completely different from the business modelf a company like exxon mobil. when the price of oil gets really high, they're generally not happy because it makes demand decline and hurts the convenience stores. the idea of oil companies all having the same interests is very outdated. the last thing that chevron and exxon mobil can do is control the price of oil. there are at the mercy of the market. exxon mobil formed because the price was at...
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. >>> new this morning, the valero refinery company has agreed to pay a civil penalty of $300,000.he fine is for air quality violations at its refinery in benicia. the refinery was the target of 33 violation notices issued by the bay area air quality management district between 2011 and 2012. none of those violations was considered a risk to the public. >>> happening today -- san francisco city gardener thomas is scheduled to make his first court appearance in connection with the death of a woman run over and killed at a park last night. prosecutors say the woman was sunbathing on the grass with her dog and 11-month-old daughter. police say thomas did not stopper offer aid but his -- stop or offer aid but his attorneys said his actions were not criminal. >> he tried to avoid hitting the dog and that's why he went to the right off the path and down the grass. >> the parks need to be a safe place, and this was one of those cases where none of this needed to happen. >> thomas is behind bars on $350,000 bail. he faces felony vehicular manslaughter and hit-and-run charges. off camera, t
. >>> new this morning, the valero refinery company has agreed to pay a civil penalty of $300,000.he fine is for air quality violations at its refinery in benicia. the refinery was the target of 33 violation notices issued by the bay area air quality management district between 2011 and 2012. none of those violations was considered a risk to the public. >>> happening today -- san francisco city gardener thomas is scheduled to make his first court appearance in connection with...
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so the refining companies have been under pressure, as well today, valero, marathon, all of the usuale beat, but the orders were below expectations. i would have expected the stock to be under pressure. not so. m&i up, up 15%. and hotels doing great. starwood raised guidance. occupancy rates, all-time highs in north america. their revenue per available room up 6.9%. that's a great number. all of the hotels are moving up today. okay. almost at the halfway point for earnings. this is the biggest day of the whole earnings season. here's the halfway scorecard. 66% of the companies reporting are beating expectations. the average historically is 62%. so good numbers on the beat. the revenue is, again, the problem, and for two years, this has been an issue. only 50% are beating on the revenues. the average -- 61%. carl, again, we're getting the same situation here, and yet the companies still find ways to eek out little earnings gains. rather remarkable, kelly. >> they certainly do. bob, thank you, sir. >>> microsoft earnings are expected after the close, with the new search of ceo, the x-bo
so the refining companies have been under pressure, as well today, valero, marathon, all of the usuale beat, but the orders were below expectations. i would have expected the stock to be under pressure. not so. m&i up, up 15%. and hotels doing great. starwood raised guidance. occupancy rates, all-time highs in north america. their revenue per available room up 6.9%. that's a great number. all of the hotels are moving up today. okay. almost at the halfway point for earnings. this is the...
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. >>> quiÉn habrÁ puesto los explosivos en el valero? quiÉn querÍa verme muerto? >>> hijo. al chocar con la atmÓsfera producen colores espectaculares, el color depende de la altura. >>> wow!. >>> y las partÍculas las arrastra el viento. >>> se ve en el norte mÁs que nada. >>> en el polo norte, se vio en minnesota. >>> le vamos a preguntar a jaime mausan que lo tenemos en vivo, desde mÉxico. >>> mi sueÑo es verla. >>> dijiste en michigan. >>> no, minnesota. >>> pero se ve espectacular en lo que son los polos, ima imaimagÍnate. . >>> me encantarÍa ver uno, seria como un sueÑo. >>> estoy vestida de aurora boreal. . >>> de karla martÍnez. >>> conozco una persona que cerca de su edificio se explotÓ un calentador y decÍa mira la aurora boreal. >>> me gustÓ. gracias. >>> si era chiste. >>> fue un chiste como ana? >>> eso es cierto. >>> jhonny. >>> mira, hablÁbamos hace rato del recuento de menudo y esto, que orlando dice que necesitan tanques de oxÍgeno, esta chica, mira lo que escribiÓ, la mayorÍa de las fanÁticas estan alrededor de los 50, se llama yecenia, no tengo 50 aÑos, me
. >>> quiÉn habrÁ puesto los explosivos en el valero? quiÉn querÍa verme muerto? >>> hijo. al chocar con la atmÓsfera producen colores espectaculares, el color depende de la altura. >>> wow!. >>> y las partÍculas las arrastra el viento. >>> se ve en el norte mÁs que nada. >>> en el polo norte, se vio en minnesota. >>> le vamos a preguntar a jaime mausan que lo tenemos en vivo, desde mÉxico. >>> mi sueÑo es verla....
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a company like bolero -- valero -- their business model is completely different from the business model of a company like exxon mobil. when the price of oil gets really high, they're generally not happy because it makes demand decline and hurts the convenience stores. the idea of oil companies all having the same interests is very outdated. the last thing that chevron and exxon mobil can do is control the price of oil. there are at the mercy of the market. because theformed price was at its lowest level. it people at mobile thought would stay there. the people at exxon did not. they realize that trying to control the price of oil makes [inaudible] look easy. twitter.omment on say no. will it's one big world market out there. the u.s. import dependence has dropped or medically. i saw a story that looked at oil imports. i think it was "usa today." the number that matters are your net imports. the u.s. is becoming a ofnificant exporter products. we have the most modern refining system in the world. the rotterdam, antwerp and area, and the singapore area. the u.s. system is second to none.
a company like bolero -- valero -- their business model is completely different from the business model of a company like exxon mobil. when the price of oil gets really high, they're generally not happy because it makes demand decline and hurts the convenience stores. the idea of oil companies all having the same interests is very outdated. the last thing that chevron and exxon mobil can do is control the price of oil. there are at the mercy of the market. because theformed price was at its...
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you see holly moving up, valero.people think about oil stocks, they're thinking about pioneer, eng. the santero, it used to be major tech stock. this is simply a play on the pennsylvania and ohio shales and it's acting as if it's got a cure for some major disease. and that just shows you the independents are so loved. i've been focused on the independents endlessly. >> yes, you have been. >> i don't care. i think they have to be focused on. >> look, capital owned gas is you'll see the analog to antero. those are people thinking how do i capitalize on antero going up. cabot is a great play on marcellus. every day it seems like some new manager says there's an oil and gas renaissance. >> interesting. >> this is a guy who had a dream, he had literally a port he built. i went down to this area in louisiana to see it, it was meant to import natural gas. you shift it to an export play and cheniere has been one of the plays. >> netflix is getting a little bit today. what happens after ostensibly say a deal is made next week
you see holly moving up, valero.people think about oil stocks, they're thinking about pioneer, eng. the santero, it used to be major tech stock. this is simply a play on the pennsylvania and ohio shales and it's acting as if it's got a cure for some major disease. and that just shows you the independents are so loved. i've been focused on the independents endlessly. >> yes, you have been. >> i don't care. i think they have to be focused on. >> look, capital owned gas is you'll...