van hollen: yes. my argument is that our government is a whole and the question is how can you say that it would be totally irrelevant to the purpose of funding government operations to offer a motion that would keep all the government operations opening now? how can that be? the speaker pro tempore: the chair is prepared to rule. mr. van hollen: i'm trying to understand how it is in this house there was a rule that was written that would deny the majority the opportunity to vote. the speaker pro tempore: this is not the proper time to answer questions. the chair is prepared to rule. the gentleman from new jersey is recognized. mr. andrews: mr. speaker, my understanding of the principles of germaneness is that the underlying subject matter of the bill has to be the subject matter of the motion to recommit. we have heard repeatedly from the authors of this bill that they believe it is necessary to fund what they view as vitaly important services. we have a difference of opinion. we think everything in

van hollen: mr. speaker, pursuant to clause 4 of rule 22 i move that the house take from the speaker's table the senate amendment to the house joint resolution 59, recede from its amendment and concur in the senate amendment to open the government now. the speaker pro tempore: under section 2 of house resolution 368, that motion may be offered only by the majority leader or his designee. mr. van hollen: parliamentary inquiry, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman may state his parliamentary inquiry. mr. van hollen: the standing rule of the house is rule 22, clause 4, is that correct? the speaker pro tempore: that is correct. mr. van hollen: and the standing rule of the house reads, mr. speaker, when the stage of disagreement has been reached between -- reached on a bill or a resolution with house or senate amendments, a motion to dispose of any amendments shall be privileged. mr. speaker, my question is, is this parliamentary status of the bill, does this -- does it meet 22-4? uirements

van hollen: yes. my argument is that our government is a whole and the question is how can you say that it would be totally irrelevant to the purpose of funding government operations to offer a motion that would keep all the government operations opening now? how can that be? the speaker pro tempore: the chair is prepared to rule. mr. van hollen: i'm trying to understand how it is in this house there was a rule that was written that would deny the majority the opportunity to vote. the speaker pro tempore: this is not the proper time to answer questions. the chair is prepared to rule. the gentleman from new jersey is recognized. mr. andrews: mr. speaker, my understanding of the principles of germaneness is that the underlying subject matter of the bill has to be the subject matter of the motion to recommit. we have heard repeatedly from the authors of this bill that they believe it is necessary to fund what they view as vitaly important services. we have a difference of opinion. we think everything in

van hollen, maybe mr. hastings to be part of a committee, a working group that would sit down with their colleagues and speak honestly and maybe mrs. lowey, speak honestly about how do we get out of this mess that we all have. and as a working group, no dictates about how you got to do what you are going to do, what time frame, except you got to meet and have to be success tlful. make the big deal the big deal. and the big deal right now is spending, debt and how we get this government back to work. that's what i think the legislation does. i reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from florida. mr. hastings: i'm pleased to yield to my very good friend .rom michigan, mr. levin 1:45 the speaker pro tempore: without objection. the gentleman is recognized is minutes.d for 13 lsh 4 mr. levin: the republicans have said no unless there was defunding of health care reform. it did not work. so the republicans shut down the government. turns out that tactic wa

that's what i get from chris van hollen, correct? >> that's right.ur view is this is a prescription for default. >> okay. >> and keeping the government shut. >> okay, so quickly, what are the chances of boehner bringing up the senate bill if that passes? >> well, of course, that's always been the question. whether the speaker will finally stand up to the tea party caucus and exert some real leadership. and at the end of the day, that's what's going to have to happen, in order to prevent the default. because as we have been saying, there are a lot of members in his caucus who have said they want to see that happen. so he needs to stand up to them, make it very clear the dangers for the country. and as i say, step up. because so far, his sort of approach has been feeding the beast, thinking that, you know, maybe at some point they'll be satisfied. all they get is hungrier and bigger. >> okay. thank you, congressman chris van hollen. nancy pelosi -- i thought i had that. i guess i don't. let's bring in senator sherrod brown of ohio. i appreciate it, con

van hollen: you did. mr. sessions: in fact, we did. mr. van hollen: thank you. that's exactly -- thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the house will be in order. mr. sessions: because this was an action that was done three years ago and we're trying to repeal the bill that took $716 billion from seniors. we disagreed with it. but after three years, you have to use the money. and so what we're doing is we promised at that time that we would stay after it. so, look, the gentleman's the one that voted for it. not one republican voted to take the money. i know what their dialogue is. mr. van hollen: will the gentleman yield on that point? mr. sessions: i appreciate the gentleman. he's a very dear friends of mine. i know they're frustrated when we tell the truth about how bad this bill is. the cost to employers, delta airlines, marched up to the white house in february and said, hey, guys, just so you know, going to cost delta irlines over $100 million this year. the first year. it's going to cost $100 million. trust me. they w

van hollen: mr. speaker, i move to take from the speaker's table h.j.res. 59, with the house amendment to the senate amendment thereto, to recede in the house amendment and concur in the senate amendment. the speaker pro tempore: under section 2 of house resolution 368, the motion may be offered only by the majority leader or his designee. mr. van hollen: mr. speaker, parliamentary inquiry. the speaker pro tempore: state your inquiry. mr. van hollen: i am looking at the standing rules of the house, specifically standing rule 22, section 4, which reads, when the stage of disagreement has been reached on a bill or resolution with house or senate amendments, a motion to dispose of any amendment shall be privileged. my question, mr. speaker, is, haven't we now reached that state of disagreement as defined by rule 22, section 4? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. but under section 2, house resolution 386, the motion may be offered only by the majority leader or his designee. mr. van hollen

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van hollen or anybody else was on it. i feel my responsibility is to .y constituency and to america i awakened this morning and came here and the first thing that came to me before i came to the capital early this morning was a fax from one of my staff from something called buzzfeed. buzzfeed was mindful of what you all were getting ready to do before you went to your conference. i had no idea. i serve on the rules committee as do all the members that are here. i had no idea that we would be discussing anything like this today. eric cantor discharging his responsibilities. this is the rules committee. you can bring up anything that you want at any given time under the martial law but then i heard you, mr. chairman. just said to mr. mcgovern that this is occurring, meaning this because some, person, unidentified evidently otherwise i would hope that you would call that person's name, said that the president would let the nation default. therefore, this is the position that you are taking? anonymous some somebody saying som

. >> on newsmakers, chris van hollen is our guest. the top democrat on the budget committee and one of 29 conferees who will be working on a deal. conference committee as scheduled to meet the week of october 28 and is supposed to report back to congress with a plan by mid december. here's a brief look at the interview. >> we hope within the scope of these conversations we are able to move the ball forward. the conferees will have to defy -- decide what the scope best -- is? that will probably be one of the early decisions we try and reach. again, the good news in this round is we hope anyway that our republican colleagues have fromed the right lessons the debacle we just went through. unnecessary pain imposed on the country for 60 days. it did not have to be that way. we're hoping our colleagues will put it down the clubs and denies this negotiation should be between the two budget and nobody should try to gain advantage by threatening to shut down the government or default on our debts. if you put down those clubs and have a serious

van hollen, i'm pretty speechless, but thank you so much for coming. i think your presentation was cogent, it hit all the points that we need to hit. but as we know, we're all crying in the wilderness here, and nothing that we're doing here today is going to move the well being and economic interest of this country an inch. i understand we ain't going to get another mini cr, so on with the dance. thank you. >> gentlewoman yields back. gentleman from utah -- gentleman yields back his time. gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. >> mr. chairman, this is a question of process. i've complained that a number of bills that have been brought before this committee have never been heard by the committees of jurisdiction. and this bill, the original jurisdiction is the rules committee. are we going to have an original jurisdiction hearing, or is this hearing on the rule, basically, a substitute for that? >> thank you very much. this is the committee for jurisdiction, and that is what we are doing right now. >> right. we're not having a separate hearing -- >

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. >> we're going to have congressman van hollen here.ou think they think in the house about your proposal? >> look. van hollen is a very smart guy. he used to run the political operation. he'll have some very keen things to say about it. >> does he think it's a very good idea? >> oh, no. he'll want something clean like the president and keep raising it. i think he'll be a confer reinto the budget and he'll get into the budget. i would hope he would like that. >> i guess the big issue is if the president wants a clean one, he's not getting one under your deal, right? >> no, no. right. >> he's got to give or you've got to give, right? somebody's got to give. >> the president always says nobody get s 100%. what we walked out with is a good movement. >> did you give anything today? >> we said we would do a short-term debt increase, go into budget negotiations, and for that time period work on all those cost drivers that keep rising the cost of america and get us -- we're talking about tax reforms. when it came to the resolution, we'll contin

>> reporter: i'll ask chris van hollen. you guys are planning on voting this tonight, right?that's the hope. >> reporter: that's the hope, martin. republicans took one on the chin on this. and everyone i've spoken to privately acknowledges that. a lot of them were despondent last night when this boehner plan part b. broke up. and the reason why, questions now have to be asked, what does this mean for the future of the majority? they are seemingly unable to get anything to 218 votes to enable themselves to get some leverage. so they'll walk away from this. they're a little blooded up. and what member told me, look, we went the direction of the cruz caucus within the house gop conference. these guys hijacked the plane. the problem was, they didn't have a pilot. they didn't know how to operate this plane wauns they garnered control of it. so that's sort of how i would say the more establishment gop views what happened. for folks out there who have been struggling over the last two weeks of the government shutdown, i deliver good news, that they will be getting their back pay wit

van hollen mentioned? why don't we close the tax top fiver big oil, the big oil companies, who in the time of that tax breaks would make a private -- not an income -- a profit of $8 trillion, the biggest profit in the history of the world, and yet they needed a $38 billion incentive in order to make a trillion dollars. when i said can we close that loophole, that tax break for big role, the responsible leadership, why would we do that when we can save $30 billion by cutting health grants? that is the value of the debate that we need to have. that is what we look forward to, and i really do believe if growth is the goal and economic and job creation is the goal, that certain decisions will have to be made in common. for example, nothing rings more money to the treasury -- nothing brings more money to the treasury, tax things out anything else, then investing in the americans'education. lifetime learning. nothing brings or money to the treasury that investing in education. when they say they want to cut educ

van hollen, for working so hard on the budget over the years. what our proposal is today -- here is the letter -- these are three pages of signatures of names. the members who have signed a letter. we have accepted their number. i think it is important to note, the cut -- the president has accepted their number. united states senate has accepted the republican number. democrats and the house have accepted the republican number. the only missing piece are the republicans in the house except in their own number. what is the problem? if the issue is that you do not want to bring it up as once we go to the budget table we will have motions to instruct, which you characterize in away i would not describe, but nonetheless, however you want to describe it, we are not doing it. it is an unprecedented offer on behalf of a minority in this case, the democrats to the republicans. it is so important we think to open government. we are paying the bill. now let us put people back to work for the american people. for all of the purposes that the american peopl

van hollen. i want to thank the leader for taking this initiative with which all of us agree. is critical for our national security, economy, and for the confidence of the american people that we get their government back to work working discusseds we differences between the two parties in reaching compromise which is so essential in any democracy. let me yield to my friend the assistant leader. >> thank you for yielding. spent the better part of this week doing something which i do not believe should be the prerogative of the members of congress. picking winners and losers. that to me is very unfortunate. it is unfortunate because brian carter, a name we have all gotten to know, may not be the face of what we're doing here this week but he is in fact the storyline. brian carter was seriously because he days ago was protecting the members of us from, protecting those we may not get a chance to know. unfortunately, brian was working, providing that protection for no pay. that is a storyline of wha

chris van hollen talks about the budget proposal now that the .overnment shutdown has ended after that, a discussion on the obama relationship with the press. >> today on "newsmakers," congressman chris van hollen, a democrat in maryland and one of the conferees after an agreement to open up the government and raise the debt ceiling has been reached. you will sit down with your fellow colleagues to broker some sort of deal. here to help us with bastions this morning, to reporters -- andrew taylor with the associated press and david lightman. and he has the first question. go ahead. >> it you are a member of the conference. you are also a member of the supercommittee which failed. there have been various grand bargain talks that have failed.

the key to solving it lies in the house, where democratic congressmen this -- chris van hollen of maryland is convinced that it will all be over if they will allow all of house membership to vote. a bill topass immediately open the entire government without preconditions , but the speaker has refused to allow that vote. to thein his response president's remark, john boehner said they cannot agree to default on the debt and needs to pay his bills, but he did not agree to a simple vote to end the government shutdown. the uncertainty on capitol hill is sending jitters through wall street. the major stock market indicators tumbling again today. valuesdaq lost 50% of its in a 75 point drop. the dow and s&p each lost just over one percent. legislation guaranteeing furloughed workers back pay for the time they have missed appears to be held up in the senate. a republican has caused the oil already approved by the house premature. federal workers have received back a in previous shutdowns. you could soon get the mortgage approval you have been waiting for. fannie mae and freddie mac have relaxed r

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van hollen said, they amended the rules a few weeks ago and said only the majority leader, mr. cantor, whose state is being adversely affected by the shutdown, can offer the motion to bring hr 59 to the floor. we would hope they would do that. we would hope the speaker would do that. ,merica wants that to happen and they clearly indicated that in every poll. questions? cantor saidleader you inappropriately touched a staffer. has this been blown out of proportion? i had a few words with a young staff member of mr. cantor. i believed his actions on the floor were out of line and not keeping with the decorum of the house. he agreed with me. he apologize. i accepted his apology. >> what did he do? >> clearly the republicans were not happy with us continuing to say, let's open the government. they are not opening the government. that frustration, i think, boiled over. the staffer is a good person. exercised ande there was an exchange with one of my staff members. said he thought that was inappropriate. i am glad to hear the staffer has apologized. but the issue is, we need to open t

i want to bring in chris van hollen now. congressman van hollen, let's start with what we heard from harry reid and mitch mcconnell. are you hearing any details about what a senate deal might include and what that deal might not include? >> craig, no, we don't know all of the details right now, other than the perimeters of the discussion, which luke outlined very well, in terms of getting the government up and running immediately and having a debate and discussion as to what the appropriate levels of funding will be for the remainder of the fiscal year as we go forward and then making sure that we pay our bills on time for the longest period possible. so those are perimeters of the discussion. but the ultimate question is the one you just raised. when this agreement gets over to the house side, will speaker boehner finally stand up to the reckless tea party rightness caucus and allow the house to work its will or will he continue to do what he's doing right now, refusing to have a vote on the bill that's in the house that wo

with him was congressman chris van hollen, top democrat on the house committee.elcome very much for joining us. everybody is scooting out of town but you guys are actually getting down to business. what happened today and what kind of start was it? was it predictive of anything for the way you're going forward? >> andrea, this was mostly an informal gathering just to kick things off, get together and begin the conversation. we have to schedule the official gathering of the budget conference so the chairs will do that. but everybody got together and said we want to make this process work, and i hope that we do. >> i know you've been critical in the past of the paul ryan house budget and house members have been very critical of what the senate did. the president says everything is on the table. does that mean taxes from the republican standpoint that's been a nonstarter. does that mean entitlement cuts in that's something a lot of democrats don't want. what are you really looking at and how big a deal can be accomplished in such a short timeframe. >> that's somethi

joining me now, congressman chris van hollen.ank you for your time. >> good to be with you. >> as we know, in the last couple hours, speaker boehner and republican leaders say they are putting together a proposal that would be a short-term six-week extension to the nation's debt limit. they plan to discuss this with the president at 4:35 eastern time when that meeting begins. jay carney says they're encouraged, the white house is, by this. what's your reaction? >> well, tamron, we haven't seen anything in writing yet. as you know around here, things seem to change by the second. so we really need to look at this proposal. but three things. number one, there's no excuse for keeping government shut down for one more day. the speaker has it in his power to call a vote in the house of representatives. we have the votes, democrats and republicans together, to open the government. so we should do that today. number two, we believe we should make a commitment to pay our country's bills on time for at least a year. six weeks will create

they took van hollen and pat murray, these are bomb throwers.f they put in bomb throwers, how would they expect to get an agreement when what they do not want to do is help the country at all. the other thing, obviously, is truth. the media simply will not report the truth about obama care. fast and. us, benghazi and everything else . the other basic thing, obviously, is money. -- his life. abortion is destroying our country. thank you fort: the call. another great tweet -- host: one other note about health care, from the associated , "officials say that 476,000 applications were filed with the insurance exchanges, but the question remains not many have filed at how many have registered and signed up for health care insurance. the point is that it is unclear whether to keep track of the 7 million objectives in place, that is how many people need to sign up according to the congressional budget office. the president's advisers saying the president has been frustrated by the slowed rollout . during one of his meetings last week he told advisers th

thanks very much, chris van hollen is the democrat from maryland. so how do house republicans feel about the senate's deal to raise the debt ceiling and the partial government shutdown? we'll hear from not one but two republican congressmen who are standing by live. without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found all the services we needed for our riley. for over 18 years we've helped people take care of the things that matter most. join today at angieslist.com i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-p

. >> your colleague, chris van hollen, says everything is on the table. is it, everything? >> i think what's important to note here listening to the commentary is this was such a shameful episode in the history of the united states, and standard & poor, i believe, just said that the economy took over a $24 billion hit. and when i go to my district and i talk to small businesses, they lost a huge amount of money compared to their overall numbers for the year. so i think there has to be an incentive to move this process along and this is why i am cautiously optimistic. >> what is that incentive? >> the incentive is there's so much suffering out there. you talk to somebody who was furloughed for two weeks. this is critical to that family. they still have to pay their mortgage. they still have to go to the supermarket. they still have to go to the mall to get essential for their kids. so there's real havoc out there and i think that's the incentive to work together. >> is everything on the table, as chris van hollen had said? >> i think everything is on the table. but one of th

joining us now, congressman chris van hollen of maryland, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you, rachel. >> what is going to happen tonight in the house? do you expect that this bill will definitely pass and this will definitely be done tonight? >> well, you know and as you just said, it is always premature to be predicting things in this house. but i do believe that now that speaker boehner is finally allowing the house to work its will, we will be able to pass this. as we speak, i think the papers are being brought over to the house from the senate. we're going to try to get unanimous consent to bring this up for a vote and get it done. but again, it is important to emphasize the only reason we're able to do this now after these 15 long days, is because the speaker has finally after exhausting all the bad alternatives which have really hurt the country, finally allowing democracy to work its will, something he could have done 15 days ago and avoid the pain that it generated. >> there were 18 republicans in the senate who voted no on the bill that did pass, that is now head

congressman chris van hollen, thank you for joining us. richard costa with "the national review" and cnbc contributor. the question is, mitch mcconnell is working out a deal with harry reid, we've seen this before, and this ends up with john boehner going to the house floor to bring up a vote on something that he does not have a ton of republican support for and that passing with democratic votes. are we headed down that road again? >> chris, i just met with some house republicans this evening on capitol hill and i asked for predictions about what speaker boehner would do tomorrow, especially when house republicans meet for their conference meeting, and they think because now the senate is brokering a deal, they think boehner is not ready to come to the conference and ask them to accept it. the deal isn't even finalized. so, house republicans as of now, based on my reporting, are looking at sending their own package back to the senate. >> if they do that, of course, let's keep in mind, this is precisely what happened with the continuing re

up next congressman chris van hollen reacts to suggestions from corners of capitol hill that the u.s.ault after all? we'll be right back. you're matching "morning joe". >>> it is pouring in d.c. look at that. 27 minutes past the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." here with us now from washington, democratic representative from maryland and ranking member of the house budget committee congressman chris van hollen. >> congressman, thanks for being with us. we just had niall ferguson on. you might disagree with niall on several things president but eblgs like i believe a default is a default and that's not good for the united states of america. break it down for us. what happens if america defaults on its debt obligations? >> right. well,o joe, as you know, nobody knows what will happen because our country has never defaulted. so, the risks are very, very high. and you hear that from across the, you know, economic community. what happens, first of all, is that if the united states doesn't going pay its bills and i mean any of its bills, you do begin to undermine the full faith and cred

joining me is congressman chris van hollen, democrat from maryland.passed that continuing resolution with a one-year delay on the mandate and this vitter amendme amendment. i'm surprised there's not more outrage about this. this seems like, okay, you don't like obama care, you want to delay the mandate for a year, fine. i disagree with that and think this has been properly litigated, but as a sheer act of destruction to essentially just screw with all your staff to what, to grandstand, i really cannot believe it's happening. >> chris, you're absolutely right. first, it was absolutely addition gra disgraceful what we saw on the floor of the house of representatives. i have to say at outset, speaker boehner did not allow the full house of representatives to vote on a clean extension of the continuing resolution to keep open the government. why? it would have passed on a bipartisan basis and the government would have been kept open and they would not fulfill their effort to try to deny millions of americans access to affordable care beginning tomorrow. n

joining me now is congressman chris van hollen, ranking member of the house budget committee. and the first question to you, congressman, is is john boehner going to bring this to a vote? if the contours of the deal are the ones that we're reporting, and i'd be curious if house leadership is being read into this, which don't do much to obama care, there's some talk about one tax being delayed for a year, relatively small in the scheme of things, some stronger income verification possibly, a few things around the edges, if that's the contours of the deal, then is john boehner going to bring it for a vote? and if you bring this to a vote, why didn't he just bring it to a vote two weeks ago? >> well, chris, that's obviously the big question. first, i should say we don't know all the details of this agreement. we believe that we should have a clean cr and a clean debt ceiling extension. the dates you talked about are the dates that i think have been under discussion, but we don't think you should have the extraneous provisions, even the so-called medical device tax, which would ad

chris van hollen. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from maryland is recognized for two minutes. mr. van hollen: i have the privilege of representing the congressional district that is home to the food and drug administration. those individuals do great work for our country and i can tell you, mr. speaker, nobody, and i mean nobody is being fooled by this ridiculous stunt the republicans in this house are pulling to cherry-pick pieces of government to fund when they know they aren't going anywhere when they know this house is in possession of a piece of legislation that if we voted on it, would go to the president's desk tonight and he would sign it and open up all of vernment, n.i.h., f.d.a. and everything. what we did on saturday, we said we are going to pay all federal employees, not just employees at f.d.a. or n.i.h., all government employees. now you are saying you only want to keep some of those agencies open, not all of them open. you say we want to pay all the employees in the federal gove