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vance and ms. mcquate, as former federal prosecutors can you explain the value of charging someone with lying to federal prosecutors? >> that's how we protect the inteckity of the system. if people feel free to lie when they're being questioned by people who are in law enforcement, the entire system breaks down. in some ways, it's a self-accountability system. 5 question of whether we want to have a lawless society or a society governed by the rule of law. ms. vance: every federal prosecutor i know takes that very seriously. mcquade:? wra: ms. >> some people call this a process crime. these crimes are serious because it prevents investigators from finding the truth. mr. correa: charging him with lying, does that mean the f.b.i. didn't have anything else to charge him with other than liing? ms. mcquade: no, it doesn't. charging 18 u.s. 01, these are charges that mean we take the system seriously. sometimes they're brought alone. sometimes they're brought in tandem with other charges. but one issue i
vance and ms. mcquate, as former federal prosecutors can you explain the value of charging someone with lying to federal prosecutors? >> that's how we protect the inteckity of the system. if people feel free to lie when they're being questioned by people who are in law enforcement, the entire system breaks down. in some ways, it's a self-accountability system. 5 question of whether we want to have a lawless society or a society governed by the rule of law. ms. vance: every federal...
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what joyce vance said struck me. the facts contained in the report are sufficient to prove h all the elements necessary to charge obstruction of justice. t the evidence is not equivocal nor is the charging decision a close call. do you think today's hearing or the idea that more americans get exposed to the details in the report is going to move the needle either on the number of people who think impeachment on hearings should take place or on the opinion that people have formed about the president? >> ali, i absolutely do. and remember now, the speaker of the house has given us a ea standard of absolute -- absoluteness, of tightness, conciseness, and i think part of it is moving the political needle of the american people. when the impeachment proceedings actually started in watergate, the american people were at 57%. it started at 19%. this is a political process. it's a constitutional process. and we as a judiciary committee under article i section ii clause v have been given that authority since the 1900s. and so
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attorney and msnbc contributor joyce vance. joyce, your reaction to seeing manafort walked into the courtroom that way. >> i'm not surprised to see it at all. you know, this is an indictment that the da in manhattan should not have had to bring. in the normal course of business this would have been a two and done in this case federal indictment. that vance had to bring these charges in the effort to fend off a pardon by the president so now he's having his perp walk through the courthouse to make the point that the state is here and they are here for a reason with thighs charges. >> danny cevallos, just remind us how we got here. obviously manafort has already been tried and sentenced once, but of course this looks considerably different. what are we seeing unfold here? >> many months ago just as paul manafort was completing what he thought was the end of at least his federal prosecution woes on that same way the new york county district attorney indicted him on this residential mortgage fraud set of crimes which arise out of v
attorney and msnbc contributor joyce vance. joyce, your reaction to seeing manafort walked into the courtroom that way. >> i'm not surprised to see it at all. you know, this is an indictment that the da in manhattan should not have had to bring. in the normal course of business this would have been a two and done in this case federal indictment. that vance had to bring these charges in the effort to fend off a pardon by the president so now he's having his perp walk through the courthouse...
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dean, professor vance and professor mcquaid. your voices have been very important voices as our fragile democracy has been tested and coming here today has laid out the foundation for our country as to what's at risk. it's often said that history doesn't repeat, it rhymes, and we are hearing many of those rhymes today and i would yield back. >> gentleman yields back. the gentleman from north dakota, mr. armstrong. >> thank you, mr. chairman. we've heard several times today that we have to examine all of this in the totality of the circumstances, and i also would encourage everybody to read volume 1. i would encourage everybody to read the report. i'm on my fourth time through it. i will admit i'm doing it by audio book now. i get to drive a lot in north dakota, but i think how the witness -- the tepidness to the answers regarding volume 1 of the report speak volumes about where we're at in relation to this -- in relation to this report. there's 22 months, 2 years, hundreds of hours investigated, and all started under the basis o
dean, professor vance and professor mcquaid. your voices have been very important voices as our fragile democracy has been tested and coming here today has laid out the foundation for our country as to what's at risk. it's often said that history doesn't repeat, it rhymes, and we are hearing many of those rhymes today and i would yield back. >> gentleman yields back. the gentleman from north dakota, mr. armstrong. >> thank you, mr. chairman. we've heard several times today that we...
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turns out it's joyce vance. you got the surprising call to give your assessment. what was it like in general in that committee room and was it fair for me to say at least i didn't hear any serious point made by the republican side of the committee today? correct me if i'm wrong. i didn't hear every word. maybe i missed something. >> you know, i think it's fair, lawrence, and it was a little bit disappointing. i had hoped we would have the opportunity to engage with legislators from both parties to discuss the evidence and to talk through how prosecutors analyze evidence and how they make an assessment about whether or not charges should be brought but that wasn't the inquiry that republicans were there for today. >> joyce, what do you think the value of today's hearing was? >> i hope it was helpful for some of the legislate tors. i hope that the people that were watching us on c-span got the opportunity to hear a little bit about how prosecutors operate in the real world because we understand you know, one of the things that prosecutors' offices don't necessarily
turns out it's joyce vance. you got the surprising call to give your assessment. what was it like in general in that committee room and was it fair for me to say at least i didn't hear any serious point made by the republican side of the committee today? correct me if i'm wrong. i didn't hear every word. maybe i missed something. >> you know, i think it's fair, lawrence, and it was a little bit disappointing. i had hoped we would have the opportunity to engage with legislators from both...
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chair nadler: thank you, professor vance. professor vance: good afternoon chairman nadlerks ranking member collins. -- nadler. ranking member collins. i'll start over. good afternoon, chairman nadler, ranking member collins, and members of the committee. thank you for calling this hearing and for giving me the opportunity to testify and answer your questions. let me cut right to the chase because i am a law professor so i'll start with some basic legal context. the federal principles of prosecution, direct propertyors to indict a case only if they believe they can can obtain and sustain a conviction. that means obtain a conviction at trial, sustain it on appeal. the mueller report sets out the three elements prosecutors have to be able to prove for each charge of obstruction of justice they would potentially bring. an obstructive act, a nexus between that act and an official proceeding, and a corrupt intent. so those are the three elements prosecutors would have to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt at trial. because
chair nadler: thank you, professor vance. professor vance: good afternoon chairman nadlerks ranking member collins. -- nadler. ranking member collins. i'll start over. good afternoon, chairman nadler, ranking member collins, and members of the committee. thank you for calling this hearing and for giving me the opportunity to testify and answer your questions. let me cut right to the chase because i am a law professor so i'll start with some basic legal context. the federal principles of...
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joyce white-vance, served as the u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama, in 2009 through 2017. she also served on the attorney general's advisory committee and was the co-chair of its criminal practice sub committee. she is currently distinguished professor of the practice of law at the university of alabama school of law. ms. vance received her bachelor's degree from bates college and a j.d. from the university of virginia law school. john malcolm is the vice president for the institute of constitutional, institute for constitutional government and the director of the mese center for legal and judicial studies at the heritage foundation. he also serves as chairman of the federalist society criminal law practice group. in 2001 to 2004, mr. malcolm served as a deputy assistant attorney general in the department of justice. he received his bachelor's degree from columbia college, my alma mater and a j.d. from harvard law school. barbara mccade served as the u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, fro
joyce white-vance, served as the u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama, in 2009 through 2017. she also served on the attorney general's advisory committee and was the co-chair of its criminal practice sub committee. she is currently distinguished professor of the practice of law at the university of alabama school of law. ms. vance received her bachelor's degree from bates college and a j.d. from the university of virginia law school. john malcolm is the vice president for the...
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there's abundant evidence of collusion in this record. >> joyce vance joins us.t a question, if they are so sure their guy is not guilty of collusion, why are they so mad? >> they are awfully mad and they might want to talk a little about collusion but they certainly didn't want to discuss obstruction. >> why not? >> because the evidence is clear, the evidence is compelling and there's not a lot they can do with it. >> joyce, take me through whether or not the objective was yesterday and whether in your opinion it was met. >> it's a difficult question for this committee. how did they provide when the white house is trying to fight every effort by democrats to subpoena fact witnesses. yesterday they decided to go a different direction and have some experts talk about the legal context. what is the law, what do you have to prove, what evidence is in the mueller report, would it satisfy the standard. we know 1,000 former federal prosecutors have already signed this letter saying they believe the president could be indicted for obstruction of justice. we put some fle
there's abundant evidence of collusion in this record. >> joyce vance joins us.t a question, if they are so sure their guy is not guilty of collusion, why are they so mad? >> they are awfully mad and they might want to talk a little about collusion but they certainly didn't want to discuss obstruction. >> why not? >> because the evidence is clear, the evidence is compelling and there's not a lot they can do with it. >> joyce, take me through whether or not the...
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attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. here with us in new york, emily jane fox, national correspondent for "vanity fair." also happens to be the author of "born trump: inside america's first family." phil rucker, let's start with the president's call in to fox news tonight. relitigating 2016. it was about mueller. it was about comey. it was about the fbi, about the clinton campaign. on this night after launching his re-election this is still apparently, phil, his go-to. >> it sure is, brian. he is not a president eager to turn the page here. indeed, he's digging in. he feels under siege, and he said as much in the fox interview. and also at his re-election kickoff rally last night. he said that the 2020 election would be a verdict on the people who are acting in un-american ways to subvert democracy. and by that he does not mean the russians. he means mueller. he means comey. he means all of the investigators who've been investigating this russian interference in the election and his campaign and his own possible obstruct
attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. here with us in new york, emily jane fox, national correspondent for "vanity fair." also happens to be the author of "born trump: inside america's first family." phil rucker, let's start with the president's call in to fox news tonight. relitigating 2016. it was about mueller. it was about comey. it was about the fbi, about the clinton campaign. on this night after launching his re-election this is still...
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attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years give or take as a federal prosecutor. good evening and welcome to you all. frank, we have reason to believe this is about duty, honor, country. he is not a -- he is a deeply reluctant witness. people should remember he is not there to do help for any specific political party, i'm guessing. >> he is all about duty, honor and country. we should not get our expectations very high that he's going to go beyond the four corners of his report like he said, but brian, i would assert there is tremendous value in america hearing from bob mueller. we're in a society that gets the news from twitter, from a digital stream.m catches a few minutes here and there on the evening news. and we don't read anymore. the hottest trend in the book industry is audible books. we simply don't read. and if bob mueller got on tv and read from the phone book, there would be value in it and americans would tune in.th if he simply sticks to the four corners and recites passages in response to questions, americans may hear the passages for the o very fir
attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years give or take as a federal prosecutor. good evening and welcome to you all. frank, we have reason to believe this is about duty, honor, country. he is not a -- he is a deeply reluctant witness. people should remember he is not there to do help for any specific political party, i'm guessing. >> he is all about duty, honor and country. we should not get our expectations very high that he's going to go beyond the four corners of his report like he said,...
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to top it all off, one and only, joyce vance, a former u.s. president barack obama in alabama. she testified recently before congress this very week all about the implications of the mueller report. quite a panel. nice to have you all here. >> hello, hello. >> we will begin with you, voice. who needs to fall back? >> the city council in texas. five white man who decided to ban abortion in their city of 2200. there are no abortion providers, but they decided they needed to firmly put an end to women's agency over their own bodies. >> this is them getting in on the place who is have more direct authority and the city council not being the place that writes the most laws. >> like my home state in wants reproductive rights. >> that's a reasonable fall back. what's on your list? >> linda --. she is responsible for putting five innocent black and brown people in jail, the central park five. i want to shout out to ava who has the most streamed looked at it like the central park five right now. she uses her platform to shed light to things like this a
to top it all off, one and only, joyce vance, a former u.s. president barack obama in alabama. she testified recently before congress this very week all about the implications of the mueller report. quite a panel. nice to have you all here. >> hello, hello. >> we will begin with you, voice. who needs to fall back? >> the city council in texas. five white man who decided to ban abortion in their city of 2200. there are no abortion providers, but they decided they needed to...
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attorney and msnbc contributor joyce vance, and at 30 rock, we have former democratic congressman joete house reporter for the associated press, john lemire. i want to start with you, congressman crowley, because you've been in some of these meetings, and this one was a real doozy, and this division between jerry nadler and nancy pelosi seems to me to be what is going to be driving what happens next in this drama over how democrats handle impeachment and the mueller report. do you disagree? >> i think it was impolitic that was used. you're for impeachment? i'm for xy andz so he's trying to appeal to those who would take strong positions on impeachment in the democratic caucus. >> do you think she expected this to leak, though? this was a very small group of people? >> the only thing i can tell you is i'm no longer leaking or being accused of doing that. but, you know, there's nothing sacred in the democratic caucus. it was something i had to deal with as the chairman of the caucus and reprimand my colleagues from time to time and say, you know, it's really important we keep the family
attorney and msnbc contributor joyce vance, and at 30 rock, we have former democratic congressman joete house reporter for the associated press, john lemire. i want to start with you, congressman crowley, because you've been in some of these meetings, and this one was a real doozy, and this division between jerry nadler and nancy pelosi seems to me to be what is going to be driving what happens next in this drama over how democrats handle impeachment and the mueller report. do you disagree?...
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with me here is joyce vance. in many ways this isn't all that surprising given that don mcgahn defied his congressional subpoena. the white house counsel says those documents the house democrats want, those belong to the white house. help us understand what's happening here and the implications of it. >> i think you're right it's not surprising. the first thing that's important to remember is that for people who no longer work for this administration, people who are former employees, they can testify, turn over personal documents. the choice is theirs. and ultimately, the choice that they'll have to make is one that involves whether government owes an obligation of transparency to citizens or of whether this president will continue to hide his activities, attempt to cloak them in executive privilege, a defense i think will fail in court. this begins to come together, whether this administration will continue to hide its activity or not. >> stick right there because we're lucky enough to have you on the show later
with me here is joyce vance. in many ways this isn't all that surprising given that don mcgahn defied his congressional subpoena. the white house counsel says those documents the house democrats want, those belong to the white house. help us understand what's happening here and the implications of it. >> i think you're right it's not surprising. the first thing that's important to remember is that for people who no longer work for this administration, people who are former employees, they...
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attorney joyce vance and frank . tell us why they are coming out of a concerted five-act play to cover up the result of the mueller report by attorney general william barr. they lost all of the team from that revelation, any momentum they had and the white house seems to be getting his way by evidence of hope hicks, not even answering questions while walking the halls of capitol hill. it's ludicrous. >> definitely civility to robert mueller and his adherence to protocol and apolitical appearance has not served us well. it worked well a few years back but we're in a society that watches tv, gets our news from whatever particular network we watch or from our neighbors or colleagues and we need to see something play out in front of us. it's sad but true and i think bob mueller absolutely does need to testify. it's time, it's past time for him to talk about his report to all of the american public. and as much of that testimony needs to be an open hearings, not behind closed doors. >> joyce vance, robert mueller found do
attorney joyce vance and frank . tell us why they are coming out of a concerted five-act play to cover up the result of the mueller report by attorney general william barr. they lost all of the team from that revelation, any momentum they had and the white house seems to be getting his way by evidence of hope hicks, not even answering questions while walking the halls of capitol hill. it's ludicrous. >> definitely civility to robert mueller and his adherence to protocol and apolitical...
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joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama law school, and she will also be testifying in this afternoon's hearing. also joining the conversation, matt miller, former chief spokesperson for the justice department. joyce, obviously we should note you're an msnbc contributor. but you're testifying on your own today as a former u.s. attorney with a whole lot of expertise. what can you tell us about your testimony and why you think this hearing is going to be so valuable? >> it's an interesting hearing, stephanie, because today when we testify, and i'll be there with my former colleague barb mcquaid who was the u.s. attorney when i was a u.s. attorney in alabama. we're there to talk to prosecutors and talk to the committee about how prosecutors evaluate evidence in an investigation and how they compare that and analyze it in light of the legal standards, the elements you have to prove in order to establish a crime and how we would make charging decisions given the body of evidenc
joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney and professor at the university of alabama law school, and she will also be testifying in this afternoon's hearing. also joining the conversation, matt miller, former chief spokesperson for the justice department. joyce, obviously we should note you're an msnbc contributor. but you're testifying on your own today as a former u.s. attorney with a whole lot of expertise. what can you tell us about your testimony and why you think this hearing is going to be...
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joyce vance joins us after the break. break. joyce vance joins us after the break.ere are even more reasons to join t-mobile. 1. do you like netflix? sure you do. that's why it's on us. 2. unlimited data. use as much as you want, when you want. 3. no surprises on your bill. taxes and fees included. still think you have a better deal? bring in your discount, and we'll match it. that's right. t-mobile will match your discount. the first survivor of ais out there.sease and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen. but we won't get there without you. visit alz.org to join the fight. ♪ applebee's new loaded chicken fajitas. now only $10.99. >>> should he have gone to fbi when he got that e-mail? >> somebody comes up and says i have information on your opponent. do you call the fbi? >> you do. >> i've seen a lot of things over my life, i don't think in my whole life i've called the fbi. you don't call the fbi. you throw somebody out of your office. >> al gore got a stolen briefing book, he called the fbi. >> that's different. this is something that said we h
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attend such a place like remind our viewers we're getting these live images from the commemoration of vance at full view where the american cemetery is emmanuel this is american cemetery has 2 very famous songs an american president f.d.r. franklin delano. roosevelt the sitting president met in the oval office during the invasion. can you tell us something about roosevelt songs and told you yes to some of his votes. there quentin was both was a 20 year old pilot shot dead by the chairman's in champagne during world war one and the 2nd song was the army general with his men went to rennes 1st dropped during d. day theodore roosevelt jr who died of a heart attack not on the spot a few weeks later aged 56 and president trampy this to 2 to stop the graves of. those. 2 persons a cemetery in colleville east resting place of 9388 u.s. soldiers who are buried there there's another couple of famous famous isolde is buried there the 9 and brothers 2 of the 49 and grow the brothers of preston and robert they are the ones we inspired to movie saving private ryan so that's. perhaps a reference. that wou
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. >> undnder a threat of new taxe, and with air traffic set to grow in the coming decades, the end vance months are needed. it already accounts for 14% of transportation admissions and 2% of global carbon dioxide emissions. it is roughly equal to germany's footprint and it is forecast to double by 2040. the first option is considered too expensive. the second is far from reality. efforts have largely failed. there are signs of mounting government and consumer pressure. it was ultimately rejected, but french mps proposed bannnning certain n domestic flights. >> brian quinn is covering the event. let's ask him what the atmosphere is like. boeing is under pressure. there is no word on when the grounded 373 max will return to the air. >> that is right. boeing held a press conference show damage control, saying safety is sacred, the company apologizing to the victim and the victim's families. rememains the 737 max 8 their stalall wart aircraft t ad they have fixed the software that is believed to have been responsible for those crashes. 280 flights on the upgraded software, but they will not
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jason: ashlee vance, one of my favorite writers out there. catch up with them in palo alto not too long ago. this takes you inside his brain. he is so thoughtful about where silicon valley was, where is, the rest of the world. and the social and economic business implications, you have got to read. carol: his stories have deftly -- i have definitely sparked conversations in my own home. and you can find more stories online. jason: and check out our podcast. carol: more bloomberg television starts now. ♪ scarlet: i am scarlet fu, this is "etf iq." we focus on the assets, risks and rewards offered by exchange traded funds. ♪ scarlet: freedom and markets, there is a common effect relationship, which is why her etf excludes china and saudi arabia. getting no respect. the videogame industry makes more money than robotics and cybersecurity, but it's etf attracts fewer assets. what is behind the gap?
jason: ashlee vance, one of my favorite writers out there. catch up with them in palo alto not too long ago. this takes you inside his brain. he is so thoughtful about where silicon valley was, where is, the rest of the world. and the social and economic business implications, you have got to read. carol: his stories have deftly -- i have definitely sparked conversations in my own home. and you can find more stories online. jason: and check out our podcast. carol: more bloomberg television...
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vance asked vance to weigh-in on where manafort should be held. harry lip man is a former u.s.rry, how unusual is this for the doj to step in on behalf of a inning is el federal inmate, especially one as high profile as paul manafort? >> i wouldn't say unusual, i would say unheard of. literally unprecedented. and this is the first day the attorney general is on the job, it's very likely it's not even his decision. it's something he was instructed to do. it's almost impossible to account for other than political intrusion, which makes it worrisome. >> manafort's attorney did admit that the attorney general's involvement was super unusual. but it's his job, because the a.j. has custody of federal inmates. do you agree with that? >> it's certainly his job. lawyers do it all the time and maybe it gets at the level of the u.s. attorney who all the time says i feel the request on this, maybe i can make some kind of request to the bureau of prisons which totally decides this. here you have the department of justice in in the person of the deputy attorney general. i can't emphasize how
vance asked vance to weigh-in on where manafort should be held. harry lip man is a former u.s.rry, how unusual is this for the doj to step in on behalf of a inning is el federal inmate, especially one as high profile as paul manafort? >> i wouldn't say unusual, i would say unheard of. literally unprecedented. and this is the first day the attorney general is on the job, it's very likely it's not even his decision. it's something he was instructed to do. it's almost impossible to account...
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prosecutors whom you know from msnbc, barbara mcquaid and joyce vance, who went through the instances of obstruction of justice in detail in the mueller report and who said, why in many of the cases they, the evidence was in the report by itself, was very sufficient to establish the criminal case of obstruction of justice against the president. why if they would give to it u.s. attorneys, they would have prosecuted and prosecuted successfully. and that was obviously very important to show the american people that no person is above the law and we have to start getting this information out. the fact is that it would have been better, obviously, had we had the fact witnesses of don mcgahn, the former counsel for the president who would have spoken with what he is reported to have said in the mueller report. the administration has down the line opposed our subpoenas and not complied with congressional subpoenas which is why what we did today. the house passing a resolution enforcing a contempt resolution, giving us the power to enforce our subpoenas in court was so important. >> so you m
prosecutors whom you know from msnbc, barbara mcquaid and joyce vance, who went through the instances of obstruction of justice in detail in the mueller report and who said, why in many of the cases they, the evidence was in the report by itself, was very sufficient to establish the criminal case of obstruction of justice against the president. why if they would give to it u.s. attorneys, they would have prosecuted and prosecuted successfully. and that was obviously very important to show the...
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attorney joyce vance also testified.t to get your reaction to this exchange with sheila jackson lee where she reads in the mueller rart about the call trump made directing mcgahn to fire mueller. watch this. >> mcgahn recalled the president saying mueller has to go. and call me back. when you do it, mcgahn understood the president to be saying that the special counsel had to be removed by rosenstein. what do you believe or what is your reaction to this exchange, and would you find such behavior concerning? professor vance and then professor mcquaid. >> yes, this conduct to me seems to have all the elements prosecutors would need to have to successfully charge obstruction of justice. there's an obstructive act, the effort to go ahead and have the special counsel fired. there's a nexus to an investigation. at this point the president is aware that the investigation is ongoing. and there appears to be a corrupt motive as well curtailing the special counsel's investigation. this entire series of conversations and conduct is
attorney joyce vance also testified.t to get your reaction to this exchange with sheila jackson lee where she reads in the mueller rart about the call trump made directing mcgahn to fire mueller. watch this. >> mcgahn recalled the president saying mueller has to go. and call me back. when you do it, mcgahn understood the president to be saying that the special counsel had to be removed by rosenstein. what do you believe or what is your reaction to this exchange, and would you find such...
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the jim vance memorial scholarship. >> we have featured you on this program a number of times because you're doing great work. >> we're all drama llamas. >> so your website address? >> theaterla org. >> simple enough to remember. all right. thank you so much. happy summer and happy camping toll the kids and to learn more about these camps or to make a donation or to volunteer for any of the groups that we met today go to the catalog for philanthropy website. nd you can watch on nbc shington.com just click on community. i'm pat lawson muse. thank you for watching. compare comcast business to your current provider. myurrent service provider does not provide half of what you provide. and to know that i could save money? i'd be thrilled. this sounds like a whole business package, which would be incredible. so what are you guys waiting for? let's do it. (laughs) comcast bu gives you more. sw and get fastreliablt ch now for a new low price of $39.95 a month. fr plus, ge installation. better, faster? i mean sign me up. call today at 1-800-501-60. comcast business. beyond fast. apribut you do
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attorneys joyce vance and barbara mcquade, who testified the action december scribed in the mueller report warranted action on obstruction of justice for president trump or anyone else. the department of justice's rule that says presidents cannot be indicted prevent him being indicted. any other person would be indicted and probably convicted on the bay sthoifs evidence laid out in the mueller report. we have other subpoenas outstanding including for hope hicks and annie donaldson. if they don't show up when they're supposed to, they will be the targets of court enforcement. we also are seeking to hear from other key figures. witnesses noted in the mueller report such as joseph hunt and rick dearborn. no one is above the law. no one is exempt from congressional subpoenas. we can and will do everything in our will lose president's his administration accountable to the american people. the yield to elijah cummings, the chairman of the oversight and investigations committee. mr. cummings: thank you. today marks a pivotal moment for congress and our ability to conduct oversight as an independe
attorneys joyce vance and barbara mcquade, who testified the action december scribed in the mueller report warranted action on obstruction of justice for president trump or anyone else. the department of justice's rule that says presidents cannot be indicted prevent him being indicted. any other person would be indicted and probably convicted on the bay sthoifs evidence laid out in the mueller report. we have other subpoenas outstanding including for hope hicks and annie donaldson. if they...
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so i think that these witnesses, dean, joyce, vance, and barb mcquaid drove home the idea we alreadyve what we need to show a crime has been committed, and the standard for impeachment is even lower than that. >> the hearing also seemed to be designed to try and move the needle with regards to public support for impeachment. because the average american is not going to read the mueller report. they're not. do you think it accomplished that? do you think that it moved the needle at all? are we any closer to, as the president calls it, the i word? >> probably not standing alone, no. it was more technical than most of these hearings would be. the thing that will move the needle will be the live witness testimony. that will be from mcgahn, from hope hicks, annie donaldson. the problem is -- ironically the republicans were saying where are all those witnesses? everyone knows the democrats would love to have them there. they haven't been able to get them yet. i also think even having mueller there would, quote, move the needle a little bit. but the problem is that it's putting the cart bef
so i think that these witnesses, dean, joyce, vance, and barb mcquaid drove home the idea we alreadyve what we need to show a crime has been committed, and the standard for impeachment is even lower than that. >> the hearing also seemed to be designed to try and move the needle with regards to public support for impeachment. because the average american is not going to read the mueller report. they're not. do you think it accomplished that? do you think that it moved the needle at all?...
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joyce vance, tom dupree, really appreciate it.e'll continue to track all the fast-moving developments as it relates to this on capitol hill today. >>> still ahead, he's moments away from taking the stage in indiana set to reveal an agenda that hopes further breaks him out from the 2020 field before the debate. we're heading to bloomington, indiana, previewing pete buttigieg's next big speech. lis in a country that fosters innovation here, they find breakthroughs... like a way to fight cancer by arming a patient's own t-cells... because it's not just about the next breakthrough... it's all the ones after that. a lot will happen in your life. wrinkles just won't. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair's derm-proven retinol works so fast, it takes only one week to reveal younger looking skin. neutrogena® >>> love that music. with just 15 days to go before the first democratic presidential debate here on nbc news and msnbc, one candidate is turning his focus to an issue that hasn't gotten much attention on the campaign trail yet. at the top
joyce vance, tom dupree, really appreciate it.e'll continue to track all the fast-moving developments as it relates to this on capitol hill today. >>> still ahead, he's moments away from taking the stage in indiana set to reveal an agenda that hopes further breaks him out from the 2020 field before the debate. we're heading to bloomington, indiana, previewing pete buttigieg's next big speech. lis in a country that fosters innovation here, they find breakthroughs... like a way to fight...
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the manhattan district attorney sigh vance essential -- see vance essentially said he couldn't be pardoned. >> thank you. next, jeanie on the cat that stopped trump's limo. everyone's got to listen to mom. when it comes to reducing the sugar in your family's diet, codr pepper and pepsi hear you. we're working together to do just that. bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all. smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels and reminders to think balance. because we know mom wants what's best. more beverage choices, smaller portions, less sugar. balanceus.org mno kidding.rd. but moving your internet and tv? that's easy. easy?! easy? easy. because now xfinity lets you transfer your service online in just about a minute with a few simple steps. really? really. that was easy. yup. plus, with two-hour appointment windows, it's all on your schedule. awesome. now all you have to do is move...that thing. [ sigh ] introducing an easier way to move with xfinity. it's just another way we're working to make your life simple, easy, awesome. go to xfinity.com/moving to ge
the manhattan district attorney sigh vance essential -- see vance essentially said he couldn't be pardoned. >> thank you. next, jeanie on the cat that stopped trump's limo. everyone's got to listen to mom. when it comes to reducing the sugar in your family's diet, codr pepper and pepsi hear you. we're working together to do just that. bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all. smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels and reminders to think balance....
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joyce vance, a long time federal prosecutor now professor knows all about the crime of obstruction andher federal crimes. you have john dean to give a historical context. you're absolutely right when you call it theater in the sense it isn't really about the substantive content of the mueller report. no one will expand on that because they western involved in it personally. however, they will give some compelling continue the text about the prior watergate investigation, president nixon, things that a lot of folks decades later just may not have grown-up knowing about or being familiar with. these folks are going to bring it into stark relief. >> i'm just wondering if going forward there's going to be some sort of talk of procedural change that need to happen, we need to hear from someone from bob mueller or the attorney general because that was so much part of the confusion of all of this in that for you-page memo was laid out before we heard from the special counsel. if things like that are going to be changed in the future, especially if there's a special counsel investigation for a
joyce vance, a long time federal prosecutor now professor knows all about the crime of obstruction andher federal crimes. you have john dean to give a historical context. you're absolutely right when you call it theater in the sense it isn't really about the substantive content of the mueller report. no one will expand on that because they western involved in it personally. however, they will give some compelling continue the text about the prior watergate investigation, president nixon, things...
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attorneys joyce vance and barbara mcquaid, who testified that the actions described in the mueller report warrant the prosecution for obstruction of justice. be it president trump or any other individual. of course, department of justice's rule saying that presidents cannot be indicted prevents the president's indictment, but the testimony yesterday was that any other person would most certainly have been indicted, probably convicted, on the basis of the evidence laid out in the mueller report. we have other subpoenas outstanding, including for hope hicks and annie donaldson. if they don't show up when they're supposed to, they will be the targets of court enforcement. we also are seeking to hear from other key figures. in fact, witnesses noted such as joseph hunt and rick dearborn. we must be clear. no one is above the law, no one is exempt from congressional subpoenas. we can and will do everything in our power to hold this president and administration accountable to the american people. the resolution we pass today in the house is an important step in that direction. now i yield to eli
attorneys joyce vance and barbara mcquaid, who testified that the actions described in the mueller report warrant the prosecution for obstruction of justice. be it president trump or any other individual. of course, department of justice's rule saying that presidents cannot be indicted prevents the president's indictment, but the testimony yesterday was that any other person would most certainly have been indicted, probably convicted, on the basis of the evidence laid out in the mueller report....
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>>manhattan da cyrus vance is the case was a tragedy.ant to reopen all of fairstein's other cases the push was partly sparked by recent netflix series called when they see us. the talks about the 1989 beating and assault of a woman who had been jogging in new york's central park, 5 minority teenagers were convicted and spent years in prison. they were cleared only after serial rapist and murderer. but said us raise confessed in 2002. he was behind the attack. >>president donald trump is refusing to apologize to the 5 men who were wrongly convicted when responding to reporters statements that the men were exonerated the president said today quote you have people on both sides of that. >>that question interesting got to bring it you have people both sides of that they admitted their guilt when you look at fair cnn, if you look at some of the prosecutors. they think that the city should settle that case so. >>we'll leave it at that. >>in 1989, the president took out full-page newspaper ads i'm calling for the 5 to receive the death penalty.
>>manhattan da cyrus vance is the case was a tragedy.ant to reopen all of fairstein's other cases the push was partly sparked by recent netflix series called when they see us. the talks about the 1989 beating and assault of a woman who had been jogging in new york's central park, 5 minority teenagers were convicted and spent years in prison. they were cleared only after serial rapist and murderer. but said us raise confessed in 2002. he was behind the attack. >>president donald...
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crimes he could just as easily stay in solitary confinement two blocks away and escorted to court but vanceo that. >> you mentioned what his life would look like and it sounds like he would be so protected for how ever long he would be and you could give example of who he'll be in contact. >> likely with three or four prisoners in a dormitory setting. >> but not your garden variety felons. >> no. he'll be with the people that are murderers, armed robbers, rapists, people like that. >> yikes. >> he'll be kept in a environment, and he'll get three squares and we maintain a prison ward or if we need better care we take them to bellevue where we maintain a prison ward. so he is just fine. i'm not trying to make it like it is -- >> a cake walk. sure. >> he's freedom is being taken from him but he won't be at any risk. his physical safety won't be at risk but they should put him down the block at mcc and that is what i would do if i were the district attorney. there is no need to have him ordered to rikers island and sensational this more than it has already been. >> thank you. i appreciate your
crimes he could just as easily stay in solitary confinement two blocks away and escorted to court but vanceo that. >> you mentioned what his life would look like and it sounds like he would be so protected for how ever long he would be and you could give example of who he'll be in contact. >> likely with three or four prisoners in a dormitory setting. >> but not your garden variety felons. >> no. he'll be with the people that are murderers, armed robbers, rapists, people...
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they say vance is likely going to press the argument that manafort has been ruled a flight risk by ae has declined to comment. >> how will manafort's lawyers try to keep him from going to rikers? >> his lawyers are likely to make an offer to the judge that he would pay a very high bond, that he would wear monitoring devices. he'd be assumption to heavy securi -- subject to heavy security, if he can be housed anywhere else. >> thank you, brian. >>> coming up, breaking news, as president trump meets the royals and gets involved in british politics, he faces a political revolt back here at home. key republican senators now oppose his mexico tariffs and warn there could be enough votes to block them. award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine. the volvo xc90. the most awarded luxury suv of the century. another wireless ad. great. the volvo xc90. so many of them are full of this complicated, tricky language about their network and offers and blah blah blah. look. sprint's going to do things differently. and let you decide for yourself. they're offering a new 100%
they say vance is likely going to press the argument that manafort has been ruled a flight risk by ae has declined to comment. >> how will manafort's lawyers try to keep him from going to rikers? >> his lawyers are likely to make an offer to the judge that he would pay a very high bond, that he would wear monitoring devices. he'd be assumption to heavy securi -- subject to heavy security, if he can be housed anywhere else. >> thank you, brian. >>> coming up, breaking...
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attorney, joyce vance. and frank figliuzzi. frank i'm going to start with you, as ridiculous as they sound for pointing fingers and accusing their political opponents for doing that which they have done. one of the most disturbing things the president did is ask his justice department and attorney general jeff sessions investigate and then jail jim comey and hillary clinton. so the notion that sean hannity has the capacity, and maybe he's worth what they pay him that he can say those things with a straight face that it makes us a banana republic to talk about prosecuting our political rivals. >> it gets more recent than that. you recall that attorney general barr wouldn't answer the question on the hill as to whether or not anyone at the white house had asked him or talked to him about investigating opponents and others contrary to trump. so it's still going on, and for fox news to have someone saying that pelosi's behavior smacks of a banana republic is to simply disregard reality. here's the distinction what the president was
attorney, joyce vance. and frank figliuzzi. frank i'm going to start with you, as ridiculous as they sound for pointing fingers and accusing their political opponents for doing that which they have done. one of the most disturbing things the president did is ask his justice department and attorney general jeff sessions investigate and then jail jim comey and hillary clinton. so the notion that sean hannity has the capacity, and maybe he's worth what they pay him that he can say those things...
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attorney joyce vance with us on set, john heilemann nbc and msnbc national affairs analyst, ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser for president obama, and politics editor for "the daily beast" sam stein, ben rhodes. i don't know what to say anymore. that's why we show the tape and reporting. it all speaks for itself. up is down, down is up, good is bad, bad is good and it's never russia's fault. even when his own government is trying to protect u.s. from russia. >> first of all u. it's not uncommon want to at least have the capability to have a cyber offensive option. let me tell you, russia certainly does, right? and the fact donald trump is an impediment to his own government doing what's in the interest ut united states,ky tell you vladimir putin assures no such reservation about attacking our democracy and probing our power grid. you have somebody once again in donald trump putting his own interest ahead of the country's. really nicolle, this is part of a pattern. you have seen him also not just in dog whistles but invite russia back into our 2020 election on his beha
attorney joyce vance with us on set, john heilemann nbc and msnbc national affairs analyst, ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser for president obama, and politics editor for "the daily beast" sam stein, ben rhodes. i don't know what to say anymore. that's why we show the tape and reporting. it all speaks for itself. up is down, down is up, good is bad, bad is good and it's never russia's fault. even when his own government is trying to protect u.s. from russia. >>...
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i want to bring in joyce vance. we've discussed for a long time how problematic this kind of business is. other than the emoluments chaus which is being evoked by conservative attorneys general in court, what else can be done to combat this potential conflict? >> this is an interesting situation. jimmy carter famously put his peanut farm into a blind trust to avoid any suggestion that he might ever implement a policy would benefit himself financially. of course, that doesn't seem to be a concern for this president. that's the issue here with the emoluments clause. and outside of some sort of an outright bribe, somebody staying in exchange for a policy decision by the president, which there is no evidence of. it is unlikely there is a federal crime. but what there is here is a clear violation of the oath that the president swore. when he took the oath of office, he promised to uphold the constitution. the emolument clauses, both foreign and domestic, are a part of that constitution. so this conduct would seem to be c
i want to bring in joyce vance. we've discussed for a long time how problematic this kind of business is. other than the emoluments chaus which is being evoked by conservative attorneys general in court, what else can be done to combat this potential conflict? >> this is an interesting situation. jimmy carter famously put his peanut farm into a blind trust to avoid any suggestion that he might ever implement a policy would benefit himself financially. of course, that doesn't seem to be a...
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and cy vance sent a message saying, no one is above the law.u know, even if you are pardoned by the president, there really isn't anything the president can do if you are convicted on these state charges. and that's why they want to bring him here to rikers in order to face those charges, jake. >> and brynn, he is currently locked up in a lower level security facility in pennsylvania. he's not in solitary confinement, as i understand it, but that could change if he goes to rikers. >> oh, it would be a big change. you know, he has a job in the federal system right now. that won't be the case. against, most people here housed at rikers are awaiting to go to court here in new york city. so it's going to be a complete different experience. and of course, rikers has this notorious reputation and that is for a reason. there is a lot of crime. it's criticized that happens behind bars. there are inmates that have been killed behind bars. of course, manafort, we're told, because he is a high-profile inmate, he would be kept sort of alone, not necessaril
and cy vance sent a message saying, no one is above the law.u know, even if you are pardoned by the president, there really isn't anything the president can do if you are convicted on these state charges. and that's why they want to bring him here to rikers in order to face those charges, jake. >> and brynn, he is currently locked up in a lower level security facility in pennsylvania. he's not in solitary confinement, as i understand it, but that could change if he goes to rikers....
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is the shortage of specialists the sort of young specialists so we have a special program aimed at vance. it's called rural doctor to use here we have. telus please tell us. there is a need for young specialists why aren't they here and if you did well and i think the main problem is housing it's a matter of human rights specialists come here and they like our village they're like made sure. there's nowhere to live they see elaborated houses and we were born here we will live here but they don't want. people to text you i know if you work here and the nurses working part time you do you struggle well yes especially in the fall and in the winter when we have flu viruses course and it's difficult for us to well yes this is. a common problem we must do if you just go to the food i know. these types of medical facilities world be opened more of about 100 of them where you think they were probably was so this is this is the impact that the direct line has but we still have a problem the shortage of little when you think of the specialists. yes i can see her. i'll give her the 4 to her. and th
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attorney joyce vance is with us. former assistant director for counter-intelligence at the fbi frank figliuzzi joins us. sam stein, i read your report, this is my word, a bit of an insurrection against nancy pelosi and the leadership. what i want to ask you is if that is behind or contributing to what is definitely more aggressive posture, more leaning in today. >> so where we stand right now, there's a faction of house democrats who favor impeachment, over 50, well over 50. still obviously not a majority. they have begun to start what is known as an organic whip process, trying to get other members on the fence to support going to impeachment proceedings, if you want to describe it as an insurrection. nancy pelosi has been saying we need to pump the break, saying it's politically imprudent to do so. there are tensions. house leadership generally knows they have to do something to tamp this down. occasionally they can let air out of the balloon, plus go to the white house and have a confrontation with trump. people s
attorney joyce vance is with us. former assistant director for counter-intelligence at the fbi frank figliuzzi joins us. sam stein, i read your report, this is my word, a bit of an insurrection against nancy pelosi and the leadership. what i want to ask you is if that is behind or contributing to what is definitely more aggressive posture, more leaning in today. >> so where we stand right now, there's a faction of house democrats who favor impeachment, over 50, well over 50. still...
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don't really know where we stand and what we're trying to achieve that incoherence does not help us vance the ball until i mean when he when he came into the white house question had very little foreign policy experience and even struggled to get a security clearance article so how did he end up with such a large portfolio and larger and some really critical offenses than the secretary of state and in particular with some really critical regions. yeah i'm glad you brought up the security clearance issue because that's been very controversial that he was delayed in getting one for a significant amount of time because of his foreign entanglements and this week also has been is a very bad week for jericho share with is work and the bar in summit which was not received well here in washington so his portfolio is vast because he's the son in law of the president that's the very clear takeaway here it's not because he's a qualified individual to run foreign policy it's because he's married to the daughter of the president and that is not normal for american foreign policy or american government
don't really know where we stand and what we're trying to achieve that incoherence does not help us vance the ball until i mean when he when he came into the white house question had very little foreign policy experience and even struggled to get a security clearance article so how did he end up with such a large portfolio and larger and some really critical offenses than the secretary of state and in particular with some really critical regions. yeah i'm glad you brought up the security...
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pride month of vance held in june they promote a culture and encourage activities that are contrary to catholic faith and morals. it seems the people who replied must of left the christian values of kindness out the door we woke up this morning and we saw the bishops tweet and we were honestly flabbergasted he is like the don't trump of the catholic church goes on twitter and spews out hate my catholic children will be attending pride events as this. guy always taught me what would jesus do yeah i know jesus would be attending that pride parade with pride also with pride and i also know that god is love and jesus is love and love is love the bishop apologized and decided to spread the love but the question begging to be asked is why the surprise kids the church isn't known for being big on reform is it really shocking it's not breaking it's happen it's pun intended. weekly i'll be back at the top of the hour with more global updates so do stay with us 1. what is it going to coin is magic internet the new type of digital currency the centralized digital scarcity chancellor bring a 2nd b
pride month of vance held in june they promote a culture and encourage activities that are contrary to catholic faith and morals. it seems the people who replied must of left the christian values of kindness out the door we woke up this morning and we saw the bishops tweet and we were honestly flabbergasted he is like the don't trump of the catholic church goes on twitter and spews out hate my catholic children will be attending pride events as this. guy always taught me what would jesus do...