how much are either banks going to look at morgan stanley, what they have done with eaton vance, with, as a template for how to make acquisitions going forward? alison: i think the other banks are interested in acquisitions. goldman has done some smaller things. united capital was perhaps the biggest thing they did on the wealth side of things. but in general, if you looked at morgan stanley's traditional asset management, they have been smaller than people like jp morgan and goldman sachs, and eaton vance is really helping to get them there. they have had really good equity inflows in recent quarters. i haven't seen the inflows today, but based on what we have seen in the could -- in the active equity area, we expect them to continue that trend. jonathan: morgan stanley in the premarket now positive by 0.8%. there is the headline dropping, morgan stanley posting a $911 million loss tied to archegos capital. sonali? sonali: that is almost $1 billion on this single event, and subsequent losses of more than $200 million. on top of that, the revenue increase was less at both the fixed in

vance, one of the most smartest people. we talked about his childhood. it informs his political views. we'll show part of it to you straight ahead. >> tucker: jd vance is one of >> tucker: j.d. vance is one of the most interesting people we know. soft-spoken, intense and smart. we had a long conversation witha them on "tucker carlson today." here's part of it. there is a lot of law schools you could've gone too.e you could've gone to wayne state in detroit or pick one, but you went to the law school that puts more people on the supreme court than any other law school. yale law school. did you recognize at the time that that was going to catapult you into a completely different world? >> no. i had no idea what will come of it. in the book, a ton of connections, things like that. it was really conservative. i knewew it would give me stability. that's all i wanted. i had enough friends from college even from my hometown who have gone on to do things in the professional world. i sort of knew that if you get into a a really good law school, you are'r set for

charles: vance, what is the greatest risk in your mind?ou can throw in covid-19 and johnson & johnson news on friday, really not impacting the market. it feels like a lot of people, in fact i read somewhere millions delayed their second jab. so rank the risk for us right now, vance. >> i think we just talked about it. i think the biggest risk we have out there is the fed. he will have to walk a real tight line here. everything that fed chief powell says will be scrutinized. one word can send this market down or send it up but if we're looking at a little bit of inflation starting to raise its ugly head and he is going to have to deal with that and probably will have to deal with that head on. i think that is a very big risk. as far as covid-19 goes, you can't be anymore optimistic. the cases are dropping. the vaccine works. we had incredibly efficient mechanism to deliver the vaccine to so many people so quickly. it is actually quite impressive. charles: really is. victoria, kevin, vance, thank you very much. great stuff. appreciate it. fo

(gentle music) >> tucker: jd vance is one of the most interesting people we know. soft spoken but really intense and smart. funny as hell. had a long conversation with him on tucker carlson today. you can watch it on fox nation.com. here's part of it. there are a lot of law schools you could have gone to. you could have gone to wayne state in detroit, or pick one. but you went to the law school that sends more -- puts more people on the supreme court than any other law school. you went to yale law school. >> yep. >> tucker: did you recognize at the time that that was going to catapult you into a completely different world? >> no, i had no idea what would come of it. obviously, the book, a ton of connections. it was transformative. i knew that it would give me stability. that was sort of all i wanted. i had enough friends from college, even from my home town, who had gone on to do things in the professional world. i sort of knew if you get into a really good law school, you're set for life. that's kind of the way i thought about it. i'll be able to provide for my fa

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joyce vance, shaquille brewster, thank you both.ice opening statements are done and questioning is happening so let's listen in. >> it certainly would have helped us that day to enhance our ability to protect the capitol. >> you said why the order was given not to use less lethal weapons but are you able to identify who gave that order? >> yes, ma'am. the word we have, it was an assistant deputy chief. >> all right. mr. davis, you are now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chairwoman. and great questions. thank you for your responses to those from chairperson lofgren, mr. bolton. and thank you for being here. thank you for the briefings that you hung in there to give to me and to our members. there's nothing more bipartisan than getting to the bottom of how we prevent another attack that we saw on january 6th. you mentioned in your report that the department can improve recruitment in hiring and retention of officers. what steps do we need to take within the capitol police to do that. >> thank you, sir. one of the thin

defense lawyer, along with isabel, he actually represents the trump organization in the pending cy vance investigation and so there is all things with a common denominator of trump here. the crisis communications pr firm, those are all trump supporters and so i would not be surprised to learn that there is some behind the scenes involvement by donald trump in terms of maybe shepherding matt gaetz to somebody like mark, but it is attorney general bill barr, let's not forget, who in 2020 had to sign off on this investigation, and so a.g. barr knew about this as recently as last year. >> all right, nbc's amanda golden, katie phang, thank you both, guys. really appreciate it. >>> and in just a matter of hours, former president trump is set to give a keynote address at a closed door gop retreat in palm beach, florida. the gathering of donors and potential 2024 contenders in the former president's backyard is expected to raise millions as they discuss the future of the republican party. nbc's ali vitali is in west palm beach, florida, for us and following this story. talk us through exactly wh

>> joining me is joyce vance, former u.s.can you throw one my way maybe? >> i think two is about the max. i really enjoy doing #sisters in law and now insider with preet, two very different podcasts but i'm going to say two is the limit for now p. i'm sure you're getting a lot of knitting done, too, while doing these podcasts. you're often an avid knitter as you engage in a lot of these conversations. walk me through some of the shows. we heard a bit of your dissection of the defense in the closing arguments but what were some of the standout moments for you? >> so it's important to remember that the defense's job isn't to prove that the defendant is innocent. it's just to create reasonable doubt in the minds of the jurors about whether the prosecution has proven its case. and that's what the defense lawyer tried to do here. he focused very heavily on the issue of causation and tried to convince the jury that there were other causes that were -- that the most important cause of the death that happened here. the problem that h

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vin gupta and joyce vance, thank you very much. joyce, don't go anywhere. you're sticking with us for the hour. >>> the trial is expected to resume soon. when testimony gets underway, we'll go back inside that courtroom. >>> in the meantime, joe biden developed a series of actions on gun violence based on what happened in just the last month alone. in march, within 15 days, three high-profile mass shootings in georgia, colorado and california. and then just yesterday another one in south carolina where a gunman killed a grandfather, a grandmother, their two children and another man at a private home in rock hill. the president's executive orders direct the justice department to issue a ruling on so-called ghost guns, on traceable weapons that can be made at home from parts purchased on the internet. the president says he wants those drug kits to be treated as firearms. he also ordered the justice department to propose a rule on stabilizing braces, and to public "red flag" legislation for states. today the president said enough is enough. he called gun viole

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joyce vance, what a sea change for your beloved department of justice, especially during the reign of bill barr. do you think four years from now, we will look back at this type of thing and, make no mistake, it's activist of the doj to do this, to send a planeload of people to arrive in a municipality and look at your police department top to bottom. do you think we'll look back at this as one of the hallmarks of the biden doj? >> it's increasingly looking like what you're calling activism and what i would call just simply representing the people of the united states of america, delivering the product that doj is supposed to deliver to taxpayers who pay for its services which is justice, and doing it by using the laws in an aggressive way. brian, i think the reason that you're right when you suggest that we should think about what this will look like four years down the road is because of the kind of leadership that joe biden has brought to the justice department, not just attorney general garland who is both a scholar and a practition of leadership, but moynihan who is the new attor

also jay russer and joyce vance. you all are msnbc contributors, phil rucker and joyce vance. rudy giuliani was warned that he was the target of a disinformation russian investigation. >> yes, katy, back in 2019 with the counterintelligence division. sure to become a fixture in one if there are charges going forward, because what this did was put rudy giuliani on notice as far back as 2019 that what the fbiobserving was a russian intelligence operation designed to smear joe biden to support donald trump in the election. we don't know what rudy said during that briefing, but we do know that after the briefing, he traveled to kiev, ukraine and met with a man named andrew derkoch who was later publicly branded by the trump treasury department as a russian intelligence agent. so, you know, rudy is now saying this is all political. for those of us who lived in the world of facts and reason, we can see that what's going on here is that there is a segment of the republican party, and rudy giuliani is a part of it, that doesn't want to believe anything the u.s. intelligence community

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. >> katie fang, trial own joins me and joyce vance and we were supposed to have the mayor of the cityilable. we received information to our booking team that said there's a situation that he's dealing with and he's not doing any media tonight. so that was an interesting development so i want to really thank katie and joyce for actually being in a bit early to deal with what he should have been dealing with. he had a rough day today. it was a difficult day to be him. and, katie, i want to go through just a few of these things just to start off. first of all, the fact that this young man was pulled over for apparently having a dangling air freshener in his car and then they said there was a tag violation except that we know because of covid there's been delays in making sure that automobile tags are given out in a prompt manner because it's something you have to physically do in an office and even if the thing that he had a warrant out for, at least i've seen in reporting it was a misdemeanor so it wasn't like he was some sort of serious master criminal, give me looking at this as an at

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. >> joining me now is david henderson, eugene robinson, joyce vance and ben gupta. first, let's talk about the testimony today. was she successful in rebutting -- we don't know what he will testify, but from the autopsy himself. >> he is determined to be gold. but it's meaningful to hear witnesses like dr. thomas donate their time for free for this case. i think she has done a remarkable job of clarifying what did not cause george floyd's death. the only complication is she is a sophisticated person and she expresses her opinion in sophisticated words. like when she uses words like officers and not officer, singular. overall, i think she did fantastic. >> medical technical witnesses, yesterday's witness was extraordinary. martin tobin. let's talk about the jury's reaction. and, shaq, how are they reacting to today's witness dr. thomas? >> yesterday the jurors were following along as dr. tobin was referencing the neck, they were following along with the instructions. they said they were thoroughly engaged. we also know how tough it was for the floyd family who was in

. >> barry vance broad. barry. vance. brodd. >> mr. nelson? >> thank you very much. good afternoon, mr. brodd. >> good afternoon. >> are you currently employed? >> i am. >> and where are you so employed? >> self-employed as i own a consulting company bvb and associates. >> what areas do you consult in? >> police practices and use of force. >> all right. now, did you have a career as a police officer prior to starting your company? >> i did. >> can you, for the jury, please describe generally your education that you received in order to become a police officer? >> so i have a bachelor's degree in law enforcement from george mason university, which is in fairfax, virginia. i have a california community college teaching credential from san francisco state university. and i'm a graduate of the labor management relations program at university of california at davis. >> and did you serve as a licensed police officer in various capacities? >> i did. >> when did you start your law enforcement career? >> so when i graduated college i was a seasonal police officer in ocean cit

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. >> i am joined now by joyce vance and chuck rosenberg, all of the legals here. he was in the room when president biden called the family. he was taping an interview for "dateline." he heard the call and reaction. the president said he wasn't going to say anything about it because it was a private call, but since the jury is sequestered, he thought it was okay to comment about it. >> i want to play the sound of the brother of george floyd from this morning on the "today" show who shared a little bit of that call. it was a call president biden said he was not going to publicize. but listen to a little bit of what we heard from george floyd's brother. >> he called. he knows what it is like to lose a family member and knew the process we were going through. he was praying for us and hoping everything will come out to be okay. >> the president also said he waited to make that call until the jury was sequestered. we know the jury is now sequestered as they are in their deliberations. we know very little about what's happening behind the scenes. the court says they wil

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attorney joyce vance and former defender mary moriarty. gabe, you always come to us with interesting comments about how the jury is taking in the information. i know yesterday was a bit of a dryer day and the jury got antsy. what is the latest on their level of attentiveness today? >> reporter: hi there, katy. apparently today, as you mentioned, one of the jurors yesterday at one point appeared to be sleeping, several others were yawning. today, though, they seemed to be paying attention for the most part. even though the testimony has been, as you mentioned, dryer than it was several days ago and last week, getting innocent testimony from bystanders. what i did notice today is, as you mentioned in your open, a more aggressive line of questioning, cross examination by the defense, and we're really starting to see the defense's argument take shape here with the defense attorney eric nelson continuing to hammer that point that some legal experts are wondering how this will land with the jury about the bystanders, that some of that crowd dist

and let me take that point to you, joyce vance. do you agree with that assessment so far? what have you seen today that has stood out to you and how do you see this case moving forward here as the chief continues to testify? >> i agree. the chief's testimony is important and it's unusual. thinking back to excessive force cases i have been involved in, i can't remember ever having a chief testify as part of the prosecution's case in chief. he might be a witness or she might be a witness you prepared to use in rebuttal if you really needed them but not someone who would want to voluntarily testify and certainly not as aggressively as chief arradondo has been willing to. the important thing here is how he comes across to the jury. although we can't see their reactions, i suspect they're paying very careful attention. he is what i would call a new-style chief, a chief who believes in using evidence-based best practices in policing. he talks about meeting the community where they live and acknowledging police officers often see people who live in the community on their worst da

. >> joyce vance, will the prosecution on redirect be able to bring up that anton black case in baltimore or will that be ruled out by the judge? can you bring it up because he is an expert witness or not? >> so, the prosecution when they cross-examine this expert, they can test his credentials. they can look into whether or not he has bias. this is a civil lawsuit brought by the family that hasn't been decided yet. so the judge won't permit speculation about that particular lawsuit. but we can't really evaluate how successful a witness is until we see how they stand up on cross-examination, and so the thrust of the prosecution here will be to try to elicit testimony from this expert that shows he has in the past had a propolice bias, the judge will try and the defense but the judge will protect the record because this is all a matter of whether a verdict if the prosecution gets one can with stand scrutiny on appeal. so the judge will keep the prosecution from going too far into that dangerous territory of potentially prejudice information to keep and protect the integrity of any verdict

attorney joyce vance to help us understand all the legal aspects of the story. thank you both for being here. first tell us this statement seemed while reluctantly delivered, carefully crafted. is his client planning to -- i know we used the word to flip on matt gaetz. but it's usually the by-product of negotiating a more lenient sentence. that his defense strategy? >> so, look, we are in the midst of a very dynamic federal investigation. so predicting how it's going to play out is difficult. but what i think we can say coming out of today is that joel greenberg has hired this long-time lawyer from florida named fritz scheller. and fritz scheller represented the wife of the pulse nightclub shooter who was prosecuted on terrorism charges and beat the government in that case. and for whatever people think about fritz scheller, he would not have stood outside that courthouse today and said that "if i was matt gaetz, i wouldn't feel comfortable." he's just not going to do that. without knowing the impact of the message that that sends. and the posture, the public po

joining me now is joyce vance from the alabama school of law. an msnbc contributor, the co-host of sisters of law and cafe insiders podcast. joyce, good morning to you. i would love your analysis on how these politicians, for instance, who have supporters, who are part of these groups or encourage conspiracy theories, how does that legally connect to what some of these groups might have participated in? >> that's the ultimate question for investigators and prosecutors as they look at the january 6th events. obviously we have a strong free speech tradition in this country. and you can cross that line if you engage in speech that is intended to incite violence. the important takeaway from what we're seeing here is we're beginning to have cooperators who are working with law enforcement from some of these groups, from proud boys, from oath keepers, who will give investigators insight into what that connection looked like. the way i've been thinking about this is like a puzzle with a couple thousand pieces. i'm not sure investigators even have the f

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attorney joyce vance. we were close enough here i'm not going to ask you to speculate about the speed with which the jury reached a conclusion, but i do want to come back to the closing arguments. the state set to ask -- they essentially pleaded with the jurors to believe their eyes, believe what they saw take place for 9 minutes, 29 seconds, to believe all of the testimony over three weeks of all the things that george floyd may have done or not done, but the single variable being derek chauvin's knee on his neck. just looking at the way they closed, what is your sense of the lasting impressions that the jurors may have gone into deliberation with. >> it was important about the argument trust your eyes, trust what you saw was made in the context of what caused george floyd ace death. the prosecution said you don't have to listen to the defense. for one thing they got the law wrong. for another thing they're try to go give you a bench of other crazy causes. they put up that wonderful graphic that show the

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attorney joyce vance and a democratic pollster and strategist at the great state of florida.is. so there's a lot. i mean, i feel like every day there's a new line of inquiry focused on gaetz, whether it's paying for sex, sex with a minor. there's a federal investigation that's scrutinizing a bahamas trip, fbi, and widening its investigation including questions whether a trip to the bahamas taken with republican allies in florida and women "who were asked to provide sex for them." according to cbs news, gaetz an on was on a trip with a marijuana and hand surgeon who allegedly paid for accommodations and female escorts. hasn't been charged anything as of yet. how much trouble do you think he might be in? >> there's an awful lot here, joy, and the allegations aren't just of one kind. potentially of multiple different sorts of situations. it's hard to get a read, because no charges have been filed of how seriously doj is taking this and where their emphasis the greatest. but the real risk for gaetz is that once the fbi starts looking, they're not constrained. this is no longer tr

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so you got this thing today playing out in the right where this jd vance, the hillbilly elegy guy, saying universal day care is class war on the working class. but the better thing to do is what josh hawley and mitt romney were doing, which is give parents money. it's like, okay, that's the debate now. should we subsidize universal day care, which has been the constant refrain for so long. >> it was get government off hi back and also in the case of day care, women should be home taking cabin of their kids and that ship has sailed. the religious fundamentalism might be still opponent in the united states, but there's no family-values party anymore, certainly not the party of donald trump and matt gaetz. so i think that like you said, they're going through the motions, but their heart isn't in it. and that quote, that famous reagan quote was so striking because i thought about that quote a lot of times during the pandemic, about how ecstatic i would be when i was trying to home school my kids at home or when i was worrying when i was going to get a vaccine. if someone rang my doorbell and

." >>> joining me now is the former united states attorney in alabama and msnbc contributor, joyce vance. she's the co-host of #sisters-in-law podcast. why chauvin's trial verdict may hinge on judge cahill's jury instructions. also joining the discussion, amani perry, an award-winning author of numerous books, including "breathe, a letter to my sons and more beautiful and more terrible, the embrace and transcendence of racial equality in the united states." good morning to both of you, thank you for being here. joyce, i want to explore what you wrote about for msnbc, the idea that tomorrow, and a lot of people think the trial ended on thursday when the defense rested. but in fact the instructions to the jury in this particular case are remarkably important. in fact i remember opening arguments where the defense wanted to be clear that everything going around you in america, all this discussion about policing and social justice isn't what this trial is about, so i assume the judge is going to need to address what this trial is about to the jury before they enter that deliberation room. >>

vance, it's great to see you, thank you for that.e had been a couple of reporters who have covered the riots and the chaos all over this country from memorial day weekend to the present. there are not many. one of them is named shelby, she's in minneapolis for us tonight. what are you seeing there right now? >> tucker, right now it actually seems to be winding down. at least for the foreseeable future. right after the verdict was announced, everyone was jumping for joy, people were crying, they took to the streets and it soon turned into another protest because they said well this was of win t for them, it wasn't of win overall. they are still looking for more justice, policy change, they want more officers indicted. so it'sct not over for them. >> tucker: you were there in early june. when you go back to minneapolis, it doesn't seem like the city has been repaired or recovered from those riots. everything is still boarded-up for sure. right next to me, there is a giant wall of just -- you know, it's entirely boarded-up. behind me th

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joining me now is nbc legal analyst joyce vance, former u.s.trict of alabama. joyce, let me start with this, as a former u.s. attorney, would you expect some deference if you were potentially under investigation from the justice department, meaning that you would assume justice isn't going to move on you as a former official unless they dotted every i and crossed every t? >> i think that's absolutely correct, chuck. even in not a politically involved case where you're seeking to search an attorney's office and there's an attorney/client relationship, these search warrants are reviewed in main justice. in a case like this, every effort would be made, particularly with a new administration where there's not a confirmed assistant attorney general for the criminal division. i wouldn't at all be surprised if the deputy attorney general had reviewed this application and affidavit to justify the search warrant. >> if you're in charge of this investigation and you know you're about to ask for a search warrant from a -- of a former u.s. attorney and not

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vance batters. biotechnology. computer chips. clean the secretary defense can tell you and those you on working national security issues now. defense department has a agency called dark. the defense advanced research project agency. the people who set up before i came here. and that's been a long time ago. to develop breakthroughs that enhance our national security. that's their only job. and it's a semi separate agencies under the fence. the park. it's led to everything from this cover. the internet. to gps and so much more. but you can start secured. the national institute of health nih. i believe she create. a similar advanced research projects agency for health. >> you know, do. we have a singular purpose. >> to do all of breakthroughs. to prevent detect and treat diseases like alzheimer's, diabetes and cancer. i still never forget. we. the cancer proposal last year as vice president. almost 9 million dollars going and i each. you just used a point of personal privilege. >> i forget you stand a mention saying named after my d

vance. do you think thomas was right here?se against big tech. we could not just complain about big tech sensory conservatives but he's basically saying look if they are going to restrict information they are going to discriminate against conservatives, then they are actually blocking conservatives access to the public square in the modern media sense, and that means they're not allowed to do that. if they're not allowed to discriminate against conservatives then that again gives us the policy to actually fight back against some of this cancel culture and ensure that conservatives actually have representation in the modern digital square. brian: how though? i mean, how do you get , you know, twitter is twitter. what's next? >> well, i think it suggests we actually have a policy response here, brian, which is that we can force twitter to treat conservatives the same as they treat liberals kind of a crazy idea, basic human fairness that if you're going to have a monopoly power over the flow of information, then you have to use i