[applause] >> virgil goode, what party were you in?ways conservative. >> your response to the initial question. >> thank you, larry. first i want to say thanks to your being here for lending your name and your prestige to this event, and to thank free & equal for their hard work in bringing a much broader vision to the american people so they will know that they have more choices than just obama and romney. >> i do not favor the top two system. i agree with jill, as she said, money is not speech, and the top two system enhances those that have the most money. however, i was not in favor of $100 million at the democratic national convention of taxpayer money, $100 million to the republican convention of taxpayer money. [applause] >> the top two system is primarily a state issue. i would not be in favor of federal legislation rebealing appealing what louisiana has done or telling virginia or telling maine or telling arizona or new mexico any state what they should do. but we have to work in every state and every legislator and oppose top

it's very true and in fact in virginia we were just talking about this virgil goode he he has taken the constitution party right exactly right now with the forty four percent of the vote reporting in virginia has eight thousand six hundred twenty seven votes for tenths of one percent so he's not even pulling a half a percent and gary johnson's point eight percent he has eleven thousand votes so it's not clearly that the third party candidates are having an influence like for example ralph nader was said in florida in two thousand it's still debatable i don't want to get into it but rather that they have an influence on the debate itself isn't that the international discussion really and i don't i think i think it's you know short changing kind of taking it the easy road out to say that they're spoilers that you know ralph nader was a spoiler or that ross perot was a spoiler and i do agree that they fought with trying to triangulation has always been a force of a much different dynamic of conversation than kind of two sides in a back and forth which you know can kind of have a time like

what you said in virginia does have virgil goode. he'll take exclusively from mitt romney.over 40,000 votes cast for independent candidates in virginia. it didn't matter because john mccain was beaten soundlyly by obama. now the 30,000 votes are all coming from mitt romney voters and that could make a real difference. >> cenk: and virgil goode is mainly known for being by bigoted. i don't know if people were thinking obama-good, obama-goode. i don't know. >> i believe the minimum result will be 53-47 romney, over 300 electoral votes. >> romney will win this election by 5-10 points in the popular vote and will carry more than 300 electorate votes. >> romney, very close but we'll win the popular by a half point and electoral college by a very narrow margin. >> i forgot my number but we have a graphic here. i'm projecting minnesota to go for romney. >> the independents are going to decide this race in all of these states. >> did you watch the president this morning? this is the guy who is really rattled. tied for 47-47, that means that the incumbent is at 47. guess what, that'

were libertarian candidate gary johnson green party candidate jill stein the constitution party's virgil goode and the justice party's rocky anderson out of all the third party candidates gary johnson got the most support and one percent of the total popular vote so here to talk about third parties and what it will take to get the progressive base energized i'm joined by the justice party presidential candidate himself rocky anderson rocky thanks so much for taking the time to join me it's great to be with you thank you so rocking the elections are finally over you know i really thought this time around people would step up step out of the two party system are you surprised that more people voted third party what do you think about it. well the majority of people according to polls want third party or independent candidates there was a historic low nine percent approval rating of congress millions of people have left the democratic and republican parties over the last four years and more people identify themselves as independents than either democrats or republicans so what's wrong with this p

and a host of other organizations aired the first round which included the constitution parties virgil goode and the justice party's president. pick rocky anderson the debate will also feature the pre-debate panel at eight pm the full of notable journalists and is hosted by the big pictures tom hartman tom will be joined by sam seeder amber lyon martha allison and matt welch so as the tight race between president obama and republican nominee mitt romney makes its final push to the electorial finish line tune in right here to our t.v. in order to get the latest news that you won't find on the mainstream news. well as the water levels begin to recede from the superstorm known as sandy the question remains whether the franken storm will have a lingering effect on the other major force coming ahead on tuesday the elections are t r t's laurie harshness took to the streets of brooklyn to see what new yorkers had to say about this. new york with his. hard by hurricane sandy will it affect the way new yorkers vote or the way they look at the issues this week let's talk about that i was a county alan

if virginia turns out to be 10,000 votes between romney and obama and virgil goode its 25,000 votes, you could make the argument he might have cost mitt romney the state. but otherwise i doubt it. and there is a liberal candidate, jill stein, the green party candidate. i doubt she gets a very much support. >> a few minutes left with our guest larry sabato -- host: a few minutes left for our guests larry sabato. hi, rose. caller: i am so glad to get on to talk with you. i have issues if i could take a little time. it is called the koch brothers issues. there was a national geographic documentary and i am quoting a lot of it, where they were born and raised in russia and they inherited a lot of money and they are actually communists. so all the republican party kind of liens on their side. money is not given away -- some people just give money away or they loan it to you, but if you are going to give money for a republican to win, to buy a governor or a president, there is something you want back. all of these republicans better take in mind that they could be voting for a communist wh

the two i just mentioned who will be part of tonight's debate you may also see on your ballot virgil goode a former u.s. congressman from virginia now with the constitution party and rocky anderson of the justice party former mayor of salt lake city utah tonight though we. down to the two candidates based on an online vote taken after that first third party debate on october twenty third and in preparation i'd like to talk more about the significance of this debate and about third party candidates in general with our correspondent liz wahl along with our tease abby martin host of breaking the sat ladies great to have you here and we're going to be here lots to talk about this debate as we know it was supposed to be a week ago kind of fun and i think that it's happening the night before the election it's important don't you think that people know that there are other candidates out there saluting i mean it's just sad that people don't know that i mean a lot of people that i talk to the wall you know it doesn't matter and they're just watching the you know total dog and pony show billion dol

other organizations have aired the first round of the base which included constitution parties virgil goode and justice party president. presidential pick rocky anderson now the debate will also feature a pre-debate panel at c.m. full of notable journalists and hosted by of course the big pictures tom hartman tom will be joined by sam seeder amber lyon martha allison and matt welch so as the tight race between president obama and the republican nominee mitt romney makes its final push to the electorial finish line today right here to our t.v. in order to get the latest that you won't find on the mainstream media. all right now as the water levels begin to recede from the superstorm known as sandy the question remains whether the franken storm will have a lingering effect on the other major forces coming out ahead of tuesday's elections now the lori of the residents lori harshness took that question and many others to the streets of brooklyn to see what new yorkers had to say about the election and sandy's effects on it. new york was hit hard by hurricane sandy will it affect the way new yor

debate and it was american getting four candidates confirmed rocky anderson from the justice party virgil goode of the constitution party gary johnson libertarian and dr jill stein of the green party i realize there is a real disconnect from the bigger parties primarily the green libertarian for share between the campaigns and the national party is than and knowing a lot of people the national party even the green and libertarian party i recognize as they get bigger as we already know if the democrats or republicans they become infiltrated and they stop listing their constituents and that's not good and so i decided to open up this little book called the constitution and back in ninety eight my father ran for governor in illinois and he got knocked off the ballot and i thought well electoral reform is a real big issue here and and you know i recognize in the and the book that parties don't work so you know i want the people you know in uniting honest media like we have here today and you being on your show was so great you're so humble might add and then that's when the people here i sense that

addition to the two i just named will be part of tonight's debate you might also see on the ballot virgil goode a former u.s. congressman from virginia now with the constitution party also rocky anderson of the justice party who's a for the former mayor of salt lake city utah tonight though we are down to the two candidates that was based on an online vote taken after that first third party debate back on october twenty third and in preparation i want to talk more about the significance of tonight's debate and i know third party candidates in general with our correspondent liz wahl along with our tease abby martin host of the bridge of breaking the sat i spoke to them just a little earlier about the importance of people knowing that there are other candidates out there. yeah absolutely i mean it's is sad that people don't know that i mean a lot of people i talk to there's like well you know it doesn't matter and they're just watching these you know total dog and pony show billion dollar campaign glitz and glamor of the presidential commission on debates which we already know is funded entirely

jill stein, virgil goode and rocky anderson of the justice party. ralph nader moderated the debate. >> abc 7 is on your side tracking problems at the polls. share with us when you see problems from long lines to machine malfunctions. visit wjla.com/poll problems or poll problems on twitter or send an e-mail to poll problems at g-mail.com. be sure to stay with us and wjla.com for your election night coverage. we are teaming up with abc news for the presidential raise and we will have our reporters on the ground in boston and chicago, the local races of course as well. our coverage begins tuesday night at 7:00 p.m. hope you will join us. >> new york and new jersey bracing for another storm as they try to muddle through the aftermath of sandy. tempers and frustrations are high as drivers deal with long lines for gas. the power is starting to return but hundreds of thousands still without electricity. the new york governor says the state could face a massive housing problem as well. >> officials in fauquier county seeking information from residents abou

the independent candidate virgil good for senate. there was thinking he might pull some votes away from mitt romney and that might be a help for the president. i've gotten word the lines are long and they need volunteers to help people clear out the lines even though the polls have closed. if you're mitt romney and you lose virginia, you are the number of paths to the white house has diminished significantly. >> if it turns out that good takes away votes from romney i'm sure that would be some work to be said. virginia in particular when the rural counties start coming in those will go for romney. interesting all of these states what you're seeing a longer term analysis is to look at what is happening in urban the rural parts. almost all these states cut them all into -- from all the big states and you get down to the map and around the colored counties and cities. >> it's virgil good. he got knocked out of his seat. he will take votes away from romney. if romney doesn't win virginia he'll make custer look like he was in a safe place

if virginia turns out to be 10,000 votes between romney and obama and virgil goode its 25,000 votes, you could make the argument he might have cost mitt romney the state. but otherwise i doubt it. and there is a liberal candidate, jill stein, the green party candidate. >> a few minutes left with our guest. >> the "washington journal" will look at the battleground state of ohio. like to the rhode island 1st district debate. this is courtesy of wjar-tv in providence. >> nbc-10 news and the candidates with us. republican brendan doherty, independent david, and david cicilline. we will have a free-form discussion . i will ensure everyone get equal time. let us start with you, mr. vogal. if you do get to congress, what do you think a freshman congressman in washington can do to improve the job situation for a state with the second highest unemployment in the nation? >> thank you for having me. there is a limited amount that a federal person can do from washington, d.c. from the state of rhode island. it is up to the people on capitol hill to create an environment that is nurturing and in

if virginia turns out to be 10,000 votes between romney and obama and virgil goode its 25,000 votes, you could make the argument he might have cost mitt romney the state. but otherwise i doubt it. and there is a liberal candidate, jill stein, the green party candidate. i doubt she gets a very much support. >> a few minutes left with our guest larry sabato -- host: a few minutes left for our guests larry sabato. hi, rose. caller: i am so glad to get on to talk with you. i have issues if i could take a little time. it is called the koch brothers issues. there was a national geographic documentary and i am quoting a lot of it, where they were born and raised in russia and they inherited a lot of money and they are actually communists. so all the republican party kind of liens on their side. money is not given away -- some people just give money away or they loan it to you, but if you are going to give money for a republican to win, to buy a governor or a president, there is something you want back. all of these republicans better take in mind that they could be voting for a communist wh

yes, there should be concern about virgil good. important that mitt romney was in virginia today to remind people that there's really two candidates in this race. president barack obama and governor mitt romney. anything else is really -- no other candidate is going to become president. you can make a statement if you would like, but it's -- that statement support going to turn into a president the next day. so i think it's a good reminder, and what he was doing in virginia today. >> all right. anna, we're going to leave it there. we'll be watching closely who has the moves, the grooves, the talk and the votes. good to see you beth. >> hey, obama. >> white men can dance. >> all right. dancing on all sides. thank you. >>> campaigns usually stay away from guarantees. it is bad luck, right? but two of president obama's big guns, they are guaranteeing victories in key states. they are willing to even put themselves at risk. what are we talking about here? senior campaign advisor david axelrod even made his bets on the results in minnes

if virginia turns out to be 10,000 votes between romney and obama and virgil goode its 25,000 votes,tt romney the state. but otherwise i doubt it. and there is a liberal candidate, jill stein, the green party candidate. i doubt she gets a very much support. >> a few minutes left with our guest larry sabato -- host: a few minutes left for our guests larry sabato. hi, rose. caller: i am so glad to get on to talk with you. i have issues if i could take a little time. it is called the koch brothers issues. there was a national geographic documentary and i am quoting a lot of it, where they were born and raised in russia and they inherited a lot of money and they are actually communists. so all the republican party kind of liens on their side. money is not given away -- some people just give money away or they loan it to you, but if you are going to give money for a republican to win, to buy a governor or a president, there is something you want back. all of these republicans better take in mind that they could be voting for a communist which is a movement coming into our country. the doc

we have someone who relatively few americans have heard of, a former congressman, a man named virgil goode to the constitution to get who believes the republican party is too liberal. there is a real speculation if virginia will be as close as some people think it may be that if he pulls 10,000 votes and they come disproportionately from governor romney what that, in fact, could be moving the big-ticket. jill stein is the green party candidate in there is no one state where it appears her presence may have that effect. again, you just do not know. there are certainly a lot of people who believe that ralph nader in 2000 cost al gore the presidency. i suspect some of whom have never forgiven mr. nader for that. host: new haven, connecticut. caller: my question is about florida. host: are you still there? caller: why is there always a problem concerning florida when it is time to vote? you would think that as the years pass, they would get it right sooner or later concerning people's rights to vote. guest: and sorry, i did not. host: we talked about the two men involved. give us some history

virgil goode is the constitution party nominee, a one-time democrat who turned republican.tives from 1997 to 2009. he hails from the battleground state of virginia. and gary johnson, he's the libertarian nominee, he's a formerriment republican governor of new mexico who believes america should end the war on drugs and legalize marijuana. for the first time ever, last week a debate involving these four took place. longtime talk show host larry king moderated the debate in chicago. he's joining us right now from los angeles. good to see you, larry. >> good to see you, fred. always good to be with you. >> excellent. at that debate, we heard everything from marijuana to new constitutional amendments. things obama and romney have steered clear of. let's take a listen. >> let's legalize marijuana now. and right now in this country, we are at a tipping point. >> we're calling for a constitutional amendment. >> ten seconds. >> to clarify that money is nat speech and that corporations are not people. >> neither of them talk about catastrophic climate change, and neither of them talk

we have someone who relatively few americans have heard of, a former congressman, a man named virgil goode running to the constitution to get who believes the republican party is too liberal. there is a real speculation if virginia will be as close as some people think it may be that if he pulls 10,000 votes and they come disproportionately from governor romney what that, in fact, could be moving the big-ticket. jill stein is the green party candidate in there is no one state where it appears her presence may have that effect. again, you just do not know. there are certainly a lot of people who believe that ralph nader in 2000 cost al gore the presidency. i suspect some of whom have never forgiven mr. nader for that. host: new haven, connecticut. caller: my question is about florida. host: are you still there? caller: why is there always a problem concerning florida when it is time to vote? you would think that as the years pass, they would get it right sooner or later concerning people's rights to vote. guest: and sorry, i did not. host: we talked about the two men involved. give us some

virgil goode got nothing. that's got to be embarrassing. in a town of ten?a bad day already. >> i feel bad for virgil, somebody should give him a mercy vote. how do you show your face in dixville notch, hoda? >>> jimmy fallon had an exciting way of telling who's going to be the next president. he has a girl but her name is gary. he put out two bowls of food, each marked with a name, and let his puppy choose. >> let's watch. >> gary, as i'm sure you know, mitt romney is a free market purist while barack obama thinks -- gary, pay attention. romney has promised to cut spending and repeal obama care and obama wants america to become energy independent by focusing on clean energy. these are just the basics, but they should help you make an informed decision. are you ready to vote, gary? all right, here we go, guys, good luck, the next four years. here you go, gary. mitt romney! gary is going for mitt romney. >> when he picks him up, which i hope we show, the reveal it is, in fact, a girl. >> it is a girl. i should have brought bambino. who would know better than

virgil goode, a former democratic congressman turned into an independent candidate, and there was concern he could pull a point from romney. is there a chance they could have an effect? >> if we get into a florida situation, an infinite number of things can be said. i don't think there's any place a third party candidate has influenced the election. >> an early call on a senate race in florida, bill nelson has won there. connie mack was threatening him. >> florida was a state republicans felt good about. he has governored from the center. they got connie mack, and thought they had the funding. that is a state that didn't get that competitive. one of the big stories out of the election, who is to blame for the recruitment of candidates and the strategy to win the senate. 2010, 2012, the map favored republicans and they didn't broker the primary. ending up with less electable candidates. as we know in divided government, control by a seat matters profoundly. >> the establishment can't control their party. and once more, the yare afraid of the party. >> republicans tried to favor charlie cri

the reasons why and i should mention that we're also including the constitution party candidate virgil goodances where he registers which there are few. let's take a look at virginia independent voters really essential issue tonight, of course, is how they will will go. they narrowly went for president obama who was the first to win virginia in quite a long time back in 2008 for democratic candidate. they are breaking strongly for mitt romney tonight. also there has been a lot said in this election about whether mr. romney can relate to the middle class. interestingly, romney's support in virginia stretches from moderate income, those around $50,000 and up and all the way up through the 100,000 plus group as well. and, in 2008, seniors in virginia went for john mccain over barack obama. they are sticking with republicans this time around as well as far as we can tell at this point in the evening. also, women, a lot said about who can sway the women's vote in this election. they have clearly been a target group for the obama campaign in virginia. they did rallies in fairfax, virginia, that w

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