w. bush and mrs. d all distinguished guest, michelle and i are honored to be here on this historic occasion. this is a texas sized party. that is worthy of what we are here to do today, to honor the life and legacy of the 43rd president of the united states, george w. bush. when all of the living former presidents are together, it is also a special day for our democracy. we have been called the world's most exclusive club. we do have a pretty nice clubhouse. the truth is, it is more like a support group. the last time we all got together was before i took office. i needed that. as each of these leaders will tell you, no matter how much you think you're ready to assume the office of president, it is impossible to truly understand until it is yours. until you're sitting at that desk. that is why every president gains better appreciation for all those who served before him, from leaders from both parties were taken on the momentous challenge to solve the enormous weight of the nation on their shoulders. t

it says george w. bushbut she's very involved in this, and she is maybe more defensive of the bush legacy than george w. bush is and i would expect that. a spouse can be defensive. look at the way barbara bush was. >> but smart in her defense. >> it's very interesting. you can't help but see her influence throughout this museum, downplaying of people like dick cheney and downplaying of people like karl rove and elevating people like condi rice and andy card. >> and also helping aids in africa, cervical cancer within women. that's so powerful for her. >> that's what they wanted the administration to originally be. pre- 9/11 what they ran on, the '99-2,000 version of george bush, the compassionate conservative. a lot of that in there. there's a lot of this by this library and the reagan library. >> what's the difference? >> similarities? >> the similarity is this. the first ladies' fingerprints are all over this. >> as they should. >> nancy reagan has that library out in california in a way that she wants rea

t.a.r.p., et cetera, that would be george w. bush. the revulsion that was attached to that got placed on barack obama, but it was bush who started those policies. the other big movement you're seeing within the republican party, the libertarian wing of the party more isolationist, more skeptical of foreign wars, that would seem to be a direct repudiation of the neoconservative policies bush didn't run on in 2000 but that he fully embraced, i think pushed by dick cheney and the neocons in the pentagon. george w. bush got taken off the trajectory of being the kind of republican he was before he was president. he got pulled into this neoconservative wing of the party that made him a disappointment to the third part of the party, evangelicals. he delivered a not and never delivered a ban on abortion. he was pushed away. the one way he was embraced, the idea the media and culture disrespected bush is a lot of the reason the right dislikes obama. >> conservatives on twitter. i understand if i were a conservative and i watched my opening, i w

the dedication of the george w. bush library yesterday. ent busch gave an interview to steve skully ahead of time. and he asked what is your relationship like with dick cheney. and george bush said well, it's chordal. jay leno has a take on that. >> he said it was cordial. that's better than being good friends with dick cheney they get shot in the face. so keep it chordal. [ applause ] >> bill: coming up we have got senator dick durbin coming along as our guest a little bit later. joe courtney congressman from connecticut will be here as well, and then michael duffy from time magazine has written a book about the president's club giving us his views on the historic event down in texas today. but first -- >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> president obama has quite this parenting technique ready should his girls want to get tattoos. he and the first lady told sasha and malia if they ever do that they will get matching tattoos in the exact same place, and then put out a youtube video of the family tattoo to embarrass them. >> bi

mark landale is president of the george w. bush foundation. er is president of southern methodist university. and robert stern is the architect of the bush presidential center. welcome, gentlemen. i will start with you, mr.lingdale. so you took on this job. why did you pick smu? i understand baylor, texas tech. what made smu stand out when you guys decided to go here? >> it's a great university. it's in a great city. it's a decision that the bushes made. he likes to say it was because of the fact that it was a great university, but also laura bush is alumni. >> that helped a little bit. a few insider lobbyists there. >> i think dallas had a lot to do with it and the amount of support he has here. the airport, light rail that's right across the road from us. and he knew that he had a lot of support in the greater dallas area. >> so, mr. stern, when you were designing the building, what were you told to sort of have influence you and how do you feel like it's reflected in what we see today? >> well, president turner has a very strong sense of the

george w. bush's library and museum on the campus of southern methodist university. so much more than that. at its most fun, today was a wonderful opportunity to observe the hilarious challenge watching everyone obligated to speak at the dedication to come up with positive things to say about george w. bush. president obama tried complimenting his personal attributes like sense of humor. >> to know the man is like the man because he's comfortable in his own skin. he knows who he is, doesn't put on any pretenses. take his job seriously but doesn't take himself too seriously. >> president carter went with a self-deprecating anti-joke about the election which was uncomfortable because it meant president bush probably shouldn't have been president in the first place. >> in 2000, as some of you may remember there was a disputed election for several weeks. finally, when president bush became president they had the inauguration in washington's own schedule. i think my wife and i were the only two volunteer

did george w. bush damage the dynasty enough to keep jeb bush from running at any time and now his mother doesn't want him to, either. >> if you believe barbara bush, that's absolutely extraordinary. look go back to the 2000 republican primary election. how often did they mention george w. bush? it was as if george w. bush were dead and ronald reagan was the immediate past president. they all talked about being reagan republicans. nobody but nobody, even to this day talks about being a george w. bush republican. forget what the liberals say. forget what us professor say look at what members of his own party say or more to the point don't say. >> michael: allan lichtman you know so much about the subject. it's a pleasure having you on the show. up next the face of facebook is sticking his nose into the immigration debate now and we'll look to mark zuckerberg and the tech industry's political push. and the silver civil rights push continues. we'll be right back. very, very excited about that and very prou

>> the george w. bush presidential library and museum sits on 23 acres of the southern methodist university campus. inside the complex, a treasure trove of more than 43,000 artifacts from the bush presidency. ( laughter ) >> jon: basically the hard rock cafe of catastrophic policy decisions. ( laughter ) now, i guess this is-- as good a time for bush to open up a library as any time. >> as time passes and passions cool, mr. bush has froan more popular. >> a perfect example for george w. bush is his father george herbert walker bush, who looks far better 20 years after leaving office. >> jon: right. ( laughter ). because he's being compared to george w. that's why he looks better. i'm sure-- listen f-1 of g.w.'s kids becomes president in 2032 and somehow for snow reason invades the moon, i'm sure we'll look back at w and go he wasn't so bad. a lot less moon deaths in his presidency. any library will have to grapple with the decision made by this president-- iraq, katrina, the financial crise. >> visitors ca

george w. bush center, headed by mark langdale and jim glassman and my long-time pal, donny evans. much to the delight, much to the delight of the folks who worked on this project, we have raised enough money to pay our bills. >> we have -- we have over 300,000 contributors from all 50 states, and laura and i thank you from the bottom of our hearts. this is the first time in american history that parents have seen their son's presidential library. mother, i promise to keep my area clean. barbara bush taught me to live life to the fullest, to laugh a lot and to speak my mind. a trait that sometimes got us both into trouble. dad taught me how to be a president. before that, he showed me how to be a man. and 41, it is awesome that you are here today. >> i welcome, i welcome my dear brothers and sister, as well as in-laws, cousins, nephews, nieces, uncles -- all of you for joining us. our family has meant more to me than anything, and i thank you for making it so. not so long ago, this campus was home t

george w. bush presidential library. brianna, is there. you've had a chance to take a look at this facility. what was it like? >> it was fascinating. what i was struck by going into it at the beginning was that it was a brief moment in the bush president that was pre9/11. it was still at a time in september of 2001 where they were still experiencing firsts. it was the first state dinner to honor the then president of mexico. it was six days before 9/11. you're confronted with the the twisted hulk of the south tower, a piece of the south tower from the world trade center. what employees told us, was believed to be the point of impact. from there obviously, the bush presidency was defined and his controversial decisions that were made after that regarding the war on terror and invading iraq. one of the more interesting and interactive parts of this whole display is that decision point theater where visitors get advice from advisers. they might get some input from the press and get to make decisions on

the polling surge for george w. bush to the president's actions of the aftermath of what was the most traumatic events of the bush years. >> 9-11 as the most defining moment of their lives like pearl harbor or kennedy assassination. people will remember 9-11 and recall george w. bush in my opinion did a good job of uniting the country. >> there is much more to the bush 43 legacy tax cuts no child left behind the war in afghanistan and a major push when henry kissinger told nixon history would be tighter to him than his contemporaries. nixon replied that depends on who is writing history. >>> it is 6 minutes to the top of the hour. what do you get when a cat dresses up like a shark? we are going to tell you that coming up next. also we want to talk about our question of the day. we told you about a west virginia lawmaker who wants to make sue dents wo-- students wo to earn their free school lunches. do you think students should have to work for their meal? we will have some responses next. mmmmmm. is this the way you guys

george w. bush. interesting choice there. let's listen to his conclusion. >> in barely four years in office, five jihadists have reached their targets in the united states under barack obama. the boston marathon bomber, the underwear bomber, the times square bomber, the ft. hood shooter, and in my own state, the little rock recruiting office shooter. in over seven years after 9/11, under george w. bush, how many terrorists reached their target in the united states? zero! we need to ask why is the obama administration failing in its mission to stop terrorism before it reaches its targets in the united states. >> well, that's the strangest presentation i've ever heard on this show in all the years i've been doing it. we had no terrorist reach our shores under the george w. bush administration. check back to 9/11. even in the craziest world how can you compare what happened to us on 9/11, four airplanes being hijacked and all those thousands of people being killed to all these other cases he mentions.

first, bob and everyone, was george w. bush a better president then most thought he would be when he came in after he lost the popular vote to al gore and took office for the u.s. supreme court settled the florida recount, bob? >> first of all, i hate to do this and argue with your notion that the two wars, iraq and afghanistan, in leading us into them that, that was successful. chris: that was successful -- >> but those wars defined his presidency and we do not know the outcome of either of them. i remember asking bush once, how do you think history will judge your iraq war? he stood in the oval office, shrugged through his hands in the air and said, history we won't know. we will all be dead. this is quite true. >> when he first came in, he had the lowest expectations imaginable. he would be an inconsequential one-term president. don't forget then 9/11 happened and there was a time as we all remember after 9/11 when he had soaring popularity ratings. the world was and country was bound and then the iraq war and everything cha

on the eve of the george w. bushibrary unveiling, republicans are rewriting history and selling new and factually wrong talking points to rebuild bush's failure of a presidency. like this gem we heard earlier on national security today. >> in barely four years in office, five jihadists have reached their targets in the united states under barack obama. in over seven years since 9/11 under george w. bush, how many terrorists reached their targets in the united states? zero. >> it's the same fail notion that they are spouting over at fox. >> i will tell you one thing, from 9/12/01, the president kept us safe. you certainly can't say that since obama took over office. >> can and "unlike obama's tenure, there was no successful attack on the homeland after 9/11." no attack after 9/11? that's like saying besides the iceberg, the titanic had a great trip. you can't glaze over history like that, even if it is an improvement from a few years ago when they seem to forget 9/11 ever happened. >> between 2000 and -- i don't remem

w. bushf directors, donald l. evans. [applause] >> good morning and welcome to the george w. bush presidential center and to the beautiful campus of southern methodist dallas, texas. i'm proud to be here with all of dedicatetoday as we this beautiful building to the american people. two years ago, we broke ground on this site and the hard work many people is realized in the building behind me today. done more no one has to make this place possible than andident george w. bush mrs. laura bush. [applause] of callinge honor them my friends for more than 40 and i've been privileged to witness firsthand the instead principled leadership of president bush. those who come here will learn leadership and about consequential time in american history. researchers and scholars will presidential records housed in the archives. students and museum visitors modernarn about the american presidency, first decade of the 21st century, and the story of george and laura bush. on the other side of this is the geor

god bless. >> former president george w. bushe end of his 13-minute speech in texas today, dedicating his presidential library. joining us now is wayne slater, senior political writing for the dallas morning news, coauthor of the seminal bush administration bush's brain. thanks so much for being here. >> great to be with you, rachel, as always. >> when i saw that clip, i had read before that president bush teared up at the end of his speech. but i didn't know it was quite as dramatic as it was until i saw the clip. having been there, do you have any insight into him becoming so emotional at the end of his speech? what else was going on there? >> yeah, i mean, you know george bush. he's the guy who says i don't want to be psychoanalyzed on the couch, i don't want to be so emotional, i don't want to look this way. and yet you saw a very emotional guy today, and to be honest, this was a moment i think he recognized, it's over. i mean, it's really, really over. the monument has been built. that's the end of a long process. and i thin

former president george w. bushaid in the end leaders are defined by the conviction they hold, and my conviction is the usa must expand the reach of freedom. he joked, self-effacingly, said it wasn't always easy, wasn't always popular with some of the decisions he'd made, but when people get to come to this museum and exhibits, they'll get an opportunity to take a look at the choices george w. bush made during his eight years as the president of the united states and make their own -- it's an interactive decision point activity wherein visitors can make their own choices as to whether or not to invade iraq or send federal troops to new orleans after hurricane katrina and much, much more. that was something that president bill clinton remarked he thought was a great innovation and one that celebrates democracy and choice and dissent and disagreement. and yet this country's ability to come together in the face of big challenges. president barack obama, the 44th president, also spoke today, also very appreciative speak

president george w. bush has always been a student of history. now in his own words bush 43 on two american legends. >> there are replicas here. it is just like the oval office. portrait of george washington in the last few days or few months of the presidency and now as your library opens a lot of people will be asking you again what will your legacy be. you have a story about that. >> i remember calling you and other members of the senior staff and telling you i just finished a biography in washington. i said if they are still analyzing washington are those of us in the bush 43 administration don't need to worry about short term history. it was the nature of the time in order to make any make sense and/or transform it. i learned a lot about reading history during the presidency. there was another portrait of lincoln. >> there was a portrait of goerlg washing tonl. one of my favorites is charge the key. as a staff member when you walk in from over there you can see that it would reground you. >> yes. >> one

. >>> plus, why is george w. bush front and center today. >>> security at today's nfl draft is taken to a whole new level. >>> several explosions on fuel barges and light up the night sky. >>> "early today" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "early today" for thursday, april 25th, 2013. >>> good morning. to you, i'm richard lui. frustration is growing in the air and on the ground as more of the nation's airports are hit by long delays due to forced government budget cuts. complaints are mounting and the white house says a compromise could be on the way. tracie potts has the latest from washington. >> reporter: frustration is mounting, richard, because people have to sit and wait for planes to take off. 1500 workers are sitting at home every day, furloughed, not on the job as a result of the sequester cuts. here in washington, an faa administrator was asked about that and asked why it took the agency so long to let airlines and airports know exactly who would face the hardship cuts. >> we have been talking about r

when we come back, did president george w. bush set up the problems his own >> welcome back. there are at least three ways the bush presidency was a precursor for the divisions in the republican today. big spending drove up the deficit those years and pretty much ignited tea part movement. wedge politics, especially in the 2004 election activated the evangelical right and adventurism abroad wars we have been talking about led to the divisions with those like john mccain, who supports the wars and libertarians like rand paul, who certainly does not. these are fascinating. let's talk about the tax thing. a lot of people forgotten but tea partiers haven't. their own republican president was not vetoing spending bill. >> big-spending republican, new phrase. nobody had ever heard of one of those. but because of the explosion of government after 9/11, number of tax bills, tax cut bills passed, the deficit exploded under bush. and that made the economic wing of the republican party, which had liked its policies up to a point and this other group of folks who worry about debt and defi

it's too soon to say that the opening of the george w. bush library coincides with his rehabilitation in the ice of the public, but there are increasing signs that day is coming. a washington post poll just out finds 47% of voters approving mr. bush. the same rating president obama now has and a roughly 40% increase over the approval mr. bush had when he left office. part of this is doubtless the mellowing of public sentiment out of the public eye. it may get the dignified silence he has obtained as his successor has criticized and blamed him for the nation's problems. people are perhaps beginning to appreciate that president bush for all his texas swagger is a gentleman who unlike his successor ever used the bully pulpit. the pomt taken after the boston bombing shows renewed awareness that despite the con throw verse jis over the wars in afghanistan and iraq, mr. bush kept the homeland safe after 9/11. he noted in his farewell address that most americans moved on to 9/11 to live as it was before. i never did. indeed, he didn't. the war on ter

w. bush presidential center dedication ceremony. it included brief remarks from george h. w. bush to spoke from a wheelchair. the bush center is located on the campus of southern methodist university. include peopley porn present issues at ground zero after 9/11 and a replica of the oval office. it opens to the public this wednesday. this is one hour and 25 minutes. >> good morning, ladies and gentlemen. please direct your attention to the main stage as angela turner wilson purchases "god bless america." ♪ god bless america land that i love stand beside her and guide her thru the night with a light from above from the mountains to the prairies to the oceans white with foam god bless america my home sweet home ♪ god bless america my home sweet home ♪ god bless america land that i love stand beside her and guide her thru the night with a light from above from the mountains to the prairies to the oceans white with foam god bless america my home sweet home god bless america my home sweet home ♪ \

george w. bushe nation after the first terror attack on u.s. soil led attacks longest one in american history. he implemented tax cuts and approved a financial bailout. generations from now historians will visit presidential center in dallas to help them better understand his years in office and today dignitaries from around the world including all the living american presidents attend ited the center's dedication sharing their thoughts on bush the 43rd. ♪ america ♪ america. >> in mr. president, let me say i'm filled with admiration for you and deep gratitude for you about the great contributions you have made to the most needy people on earth. >> it's a great pleasure to be here. to honor our son, our oldest son, and this is very special for barbara and me. >> he is disarmingly direct. we were having healthcare speeches i went on about the german healthcare system he said i don't know a thing about the german healthcare system. i think he probably won the argument. >> the first thing i found in tha

>>hace siete años el presidente george w. bushgratoria ha tomado más tiempo, pero estoy covencido que con el apoyo del congreso la haremos realidad. >>su ausencia es parte de la modestia del presidente george w. bush, el piensa que es mejor para el país quedarse callado. >>la reaparicion de george w. bush coincide con sus recientes declaraciones. apoya que su hermano jeff bus,h, fuera candidato. >>yo lo apoyaria seria un gran candidato. >>el país esta listo para una personas con deseo enorme de servir y la familia b ush tiene una gran trayectoria en el servicio >>es la tercera biblioteca prsidencial que opera en el país,resalta la tecnología, no estara abierta al público hasta el 1ro de mayo >>así llegamos al final de noticias univisión ,muchas gracias por su compañia, buenas noches ♪ corona de lágrimas . ♪ se queda entre sueños perdida ♪. lo puedo aceptar. >> chale. >> a ver, tú y yo ya habíamos quedado que esto no se iba a repetir ¿no? >> no, pero no, no se está repitiendo, no es un préstamo, es un regalo. ¿me lo vas a rechazar?

president george w. bush has always been a student of history. now in his own words bush 43 on two american legends. >> there are replicas here. it is just like the oval office. portrait of george washington in the last few days or few months of the presidency and now as your library opens a lot of people will be asking you again what will your legacy be. you have a story about that. >> i remember calling you and other members of the senior staff and telling you i just finished a biography in washington. i said if they are still analyzing washington are those of us in the bush 43 administration don't need to worry about short term history. it was the nature of the time in order to make any make sense and/or transform it. i learned a lot about reading history during the presidency. there was another portrait of lincoln. >> there was a portrait of goerlg washing tonl. one of my favorites is charge the key. as a staff member when you walk in from over there you can see that it would reground you. >> yes. >> one

george w. bush talks about his brother's bid. what he thinks of a bush-clinton match up in 2016.'s get to the top story at porock. before we get to the boston investigation. two fuel barges near mobile,

w. bush's name there, and so you have a statue of george w. s father, which i think is particularly touching, and an historic sort of connection that i think is great. this library does not ignore the controversial aspects of this administration. it deals with katrina. it deals with the run up to the war, the decisions to go there, and it deals to some extent with the financial crisis, but these are all dealt with not so much as debates but as opportunities for the library to justify what the bush administration did. fundamentalitily this is a library that's a justification of the george bush administration. >> and it's almost as though, michael, and i'm just judging from the little bit that i've seen on television and the interviews that he's been doing over the last couple of days that he's letting the museum speak for hi. this is a president who unlike other living presidents has decided he's going to stay out of the limelight. he's not going to talk policy. he is not going to start a huge foundation and start running around the world. he is

w. bush's legacy. tonight on "washington week." >> whether it's al qaeda, the fatah or two twisted perverted cowardly knockoff jihadis here in boston. why do they do what they do? gwen: two weeks later, still sorting through the why's and the how's behind the boston terror attack. while no worries spring up abroad. this time in syria. >> the syrian regime has used chemical weapons on a small scale in syria. specifically the chemical agent sarin. >> i think it's pretty obvious that red line has been crossed. gwen: yet another democrat abandons the senate. why other democrats are getting nervous. and in texas. >> president george w. bush. gwen: the president's club gathers to open its newest library. >> the political winds blow left and right. polls rise and fall. supporters come and go. but in the end, leaders are defined by the convictions they hold. gwen: covering this remarkable week, martha raddatz of abc news, james kitfield of "national journal." susan davis of "usa today." and dan balz of "the wa

w. bush's library.d out what the president had to say about the terror t attack in boston. >> i was reminded that evil exists. >> a special report in dallas right after the break. (annoucer) new beneful medley's, in tuscan, romana, and mediterranean style varieties. ♪ just mix it in, and take play to new places. three cans in every pack. new beneful medley's. just seem to fade away...? now start vibrant, stay vibrant! new vidal sassoon pro series has an exclusive hydrablock system that helps fight fade out -- for up to 8 weeks. vidal sassoon pro series. salon genius. affordable for all. >>> wrk back to "starting point." breaking news in mobile bay, alabama. dangerous dplflames have burnedl night. the barges loaded, we're told, with gasoline, exploded last night. firefighters forced to stay away because the flames were too hot. as daylight breaks, firefighters blan to get a better look at the situation. at least three people are hospitalized in critical condition. back to you in boston, john. >> we're al

a day in the sun for george w. bush. the biggest news was made before the dedication even began, with barbara bush making clear her assessment of a presidential run by son, jeb, in 2016. >> it's not just four families or whatever. there are just other people out there that are very qualified and we've had enough bushes. >> we've had enough bushes. but we start with news in the boston marathon bombing case. pete williams joins us from washington. pete, this is big news in the sense that it looks like we can at least understand vaguely what these suspects had vaguely in mind for their future. >> i think two vagus is correct here, chris, because what the authorities say, both the police commissioner in new york and the mayor and the officials we've talked with, is that this is, remember, these are two people that the fbi says really had no escape plan. they really didn't seem to know what they were going to do after the pictures were shown on thursday night. friday night, they hijack an suv. they get some money out of the ow

w. bush's new presidential library. fo former secretary of state rice did the event and former bush was whispering to president obama and making him laugh. >> the governor of texas, rick perry. >> where is he? he used to wet his bed. >> the governor of new jersey, chris christie. >> oh, my. he tried to eat my hair once. >> he probably thought it was cotton candy. >> that is brilliant. back to "hardball." we're in the sideshow. hold on to your seats for this one. karl rove rates the presidency of george w. bush. well, with where does george w. bush rate according to w. and the compare ton to say, washington, lincoln, fdr and ronald reagan? here is rogue with jonathan karl. >> where does karl rove, histori historian, rate president bush? where do you put him? >> look, the greats you can't touch. george washington, abraham lincoln, ronald reagan, fdr, the greats. but, yeah, i put him up there. >> i put him up there. there you have it. w. coming in just shy of the greats. i personally put him in a category all by himself. ne

kids the time of their lives at the library. >> on thursday, the bush family dedicates the george w. bush presidential library in dallas. it opened to the public may 1. >> stephen: that's right, may 1, 10 years to the day since george bush famously landed on the deck of the uss "abraham lincoln" and declared mission accomplished which means the library will be finished in another eight and a half years. ( cheers and applause ). nation, i am so pumped! because this thing is going to be packed with bush-nography. more than 43,000 artifacts and 200 million e-mails will be on display. and those 200 million e-mails could have almost 18 nonredacted words. but that's not even the best part. >> would you have invaded iraq if you were president? or bail out wall street? former president george w. bush wants to know what you would have done. it's part of a new interactive theater featureed in the george w. bush presidential library and museum. >> stephen: yes, the library includes interactive role playing where the president hands over the raings of power to someone else, just like he did when he w

god bless. >> george w. bush little choked up as he said farewell at the dedication to his new library. they're saying anywhere between 400,000 and half million people will visit it annually. >> shepard: everybody making nice. >> sure. president barack obama as a candidate spent much of his time in 2008 saying he would undo what was done bid the meteorologist. and today he talked about george w. bush's character, personality, and the man. watch. >> because he is confident enable his own skin. he doesn't put on any pretenses. he knows who he is. heatings his job seriously but doesn't take himself too seriously. he is a good man. >> former president jimmy carter, who had been a trough critic of pressure today, praised him for his work in africa, particularly fighting a.i.d.s., and president bill clinton was quick to joke about this contact with the bush administration. he had been told by his mom he needed to keep it short and then said, barbara, referring to former first lady barbara bush, he would try to keep it

i know you'll be at the dedication of the presidential library for george w. bush tomorrow. we have this politico headline that jeb is battling bush fatigue saying he can check boxes needed to win the white house, money, resume and connection but he's also got a problem. his last name. obviously there's going to be press attention that goes around the dedication of the presidential library tomorrow. do you think that there really is bush fatigue? >> there's no question, thomas. the bush fatigue is a problem. i think clearly jeb bush is the leading candidate. there are other republicans. chris christie and others who are strongly considered in that group. jeb bush is a leader for a lot of reasons and yet the next nominee for the republican party is in a sense going to have to run as an anti-bush against some of the elements that not just the country -- members of the country, democrats and independents didn't like but some republicans didn't like. that's going to be very difficult if your name is bush. so that i think is going to be a big problem. how do you thread that needle

that's the knock on george w. bush after his administration. the key is the cries of george w. conservative and didn't intensify until after he left. the conservative movement reinterfretd bush presidency after he was president. i'm wondering -- go ahead. >> but the events of 2008 made that sort of a crisis in his legacy, if you will, inevitable. of course the biggest motivator for the tea party was actually the passage of the affordable care act because that was seen as massive invasion. but yes many did make ties to both parties and said look president bush was a big government conservative. >> did not veto any budget presented to congress or items presented for six or seven years. >> right. >> medicare part d. >> i'm hearing reinterpretation of the tea party. your father-in-law, when he wrote that ise silent majority speech. silent center. what he was doing was talking to the center. the center has changed in our country. i don't think anybody, tea party anybody believes the tea party is the center of the united states political spectrum. >> from the point of view of debt and

w. bush's new presidential library. rmer secretary of state condoleezza rice did the introductions for the event. while she was doing that former first lady barbara bush was whispering to president obama and making him laugh. let's listen in on what she was saying now. >> the governor of texas, rick perry. >> where is he? he used to wet his bed. >> that's funny. >> the governor of new jersey. chris christie. >> oh, my. he tried to eat my hair once. >> he probably thought it was cotton candy. >> that is brilliant. back to "hardball." we're in the sideshow. hold on to your seats for this one. karl rove rates the presidency of george w. bush. where does george w. bush rate according to the w. in the comparison to, say, washington, lincoln, fdr? and, of course, ronald reagan? here's rove with abc's jonathan carl. >> where does karl rove historian rate president bush? among the best presidents, not so great? where do you put him? >> look, the greats you can't touch. george washington, abraham lincoln, ronald reagan, fdr, the