was all these cameras. i just felt that it was -- it was circusy for me. that was all. i thought it was a common sense -- again, this is not my hearing. it fit his demeanor. in other words, i had always put myself in his -- i think i'm pretty good at that. very good at putting myself into other people's places. and i think that's how i represented him. i thought that's the way he is. in other words, it reflected him and the institution. his great respect for the institution, that that's how -- and why would he know how to do that? i didn't know how to do it. >> you brought up this issue of televising of the proceedings. when i asked you about the congress congressman showing emotion, i mean, that's how you brought it up. yeah. >> i don't remember. >> my point is that -- did he show emotion? >> they were pretty upset. he and john were very upset with me when i told him. they were very -- i got yelled at. take to the woodshed. john took me to the woodshed, imagine, and the congressman took me to the woodshed. for make thing decision. it is already done. >> wait a second. i

in paris, i could see what was chic in what was not. one time i was working and was arriving at an industry job, and i was wearing boots. they looked at me and said, [unintelligible] as a reproach. i thought, ha ha, very funny. [laughter] but it was beautiful, which can be true but it can be awful, too, a beige. it is not because it is beige, but it could be the absolute beauty, no. it depends how it is done, how it is made, how it looks like. so i was like, let's say, killing the french fashion. i should say france in general. so absolute. it has to be like that. things that i did not feel like. i think it's time i was going, i felt really in love with london. i felt more freedom. when i was going there, it gave me -- [unintelligible] sending like, yes, go on to do the things you feel are good. because it is very conservative in paris. >> only you had come to san francisco. >> yes. >> i can only imagine what you would have produced. [applause] >> that is true. >> here is this good little boy who is be heading classically and is very charming and wond

was all these cameras. and i just felt it was -- it was circusy for me. that was all. so it was like, i thought it was a commonsense, and again -- it's not my hearing. it sort of fit his demeanor. in other words i had to always put myself in his -- and i think i'm pretty good at that. i am very good at putting myself in to other people's place. and i think that's how i represented. and i thought, that's the way he is. in other words, it reflected him, reflented the institution. again, his great respect for the institution. that that's how -- and why would he know how to do that. i didn't even know how to do it. but -- >> now, you brought up this issue of televising the proceedings when i asked you about the congressman showing emotion. i mean that's how you brought it up. >> did i? >> yeah. >> i don't remember. >> oh. >> what -- >> my point is that, what, did he show emotion? >> yeah, they were pretty upset. he and john were very upset with me. when i told them. they were very -- i got yelled at. you take to the wood shed, john took me to the wood shed, if you can imagi

because it was -- it was precedent setting. it was -- it was a larger decision. he was very reluctant. >> do you think that mr. doar had to convince him? >> yes. i think he -- john had to present the case. he had to, as a good lawyer would, he had -- he had to present why this was critical. yes, absolutely. >> do you remember the decision to retranscribe some of the tapes because the transcripts weren't very good or it was felt they weren't good? >> i don't remember that but i remember it happened. >> tell us, since you did not know how the process would go, tell us about the effect of -- of the supreme court decision, the unanimous decision against the president -- >> i think it was a jolt to the committee. this is more of a member issue, in other words i think that w was -- that was like a wild moment. wow, w-o-w, wow, i mean it just -- and i think it had a powerful impact on the republicans. that's how i remember. >> do you remember ever playing the smoking gun tape? >> no. >> do you remember the effect of the transcript of the smoking gun? >> mm-hmm. mm-hmm. >

was a phony impeachment. that was a political impeachment. this was a -- as hillary once said to me the only constitutional ip peachment was the one we did in 1974. so one of my key roles was to to be involved and in charge of to some extent with factual gathering and that meant trying to deal with the white house to get these things. when they didn't give us a lot of the stuff which i thought undermined our ability to present a proper case to the house judiciary committee, that in itself turned into an impeachable offense i thought. we drafted an article which was involved in draft agen i was also involved in making the presentation to the committee in support of voting out that article of impeachment. and it was voted on. there was a third article of impeachment. inmide mind i still think about it now. it's still a key historical precedent and constitutional precedent in the event of any future impeachments which i hope none really come up that the executive branch is obligated to cooperate if there really is a legitimate impeachment inquiry. >> but

that was -- it was just -- it was a visual impression i had that day. separate from what we were going to do. that was my impression. >> do you remember -- again a long time ago. do you remember some of the challenges that congressman rodino faced regard agnew process? >> we faced challenges. he faced challenges from day one. remember, he -- he came to the chairmanship after a 50-year reign of seller who was in those days, you know, most important people in the civil rights movement, judiciary committee. had been a member of congress for 50 years. for many, many years. and -- was one of the giants of the house, obviously. and through this plfluke electi out in brooklyn, we are used to those now, upsets. she upset this icon. and this -- fairly unknown sort of party line congressman from new jersey -- his -- all of a sudden put into this position. there were challenges all around. obviously we talk about more as we get into the thing. but -- we didn't know what to do. this is all unchartered territory. now here's -- here is the vice president of the united

i was also speaking social society, which was what was going on in society. me, to my grandmother, i was like feeling. too close to say something indefinitely. yes, why did i do the men like that? because i work around it sex. i saw that what was showing, it was the men in this world where the woman was strong. then have to be equal of the men. and i wanted to show it. there was some interest in like a blazer, a jacket, double- breasted. you have the men's jacket with the inside pocket. it is a pocket for the wallet. the women did not have that. why? because the men pay at the restaurant. but can the woman they, too? i think there was a lot of stupid things -- not stupid, but the things that were intelligent but one time that changed and was changing. and the vision of the woman about the man was changing, too. some men were not accepting their femininity. does not mean that they were gay or whatever, no. it just means that men can be sensible, but they have been traumatized by their education that wanted to make them as a john wayne, you know? apparently. it

was easy. mitchell, he was tough. he was -- friends of mine in new york had represented him in a criminal case. guy in the u.s. attorney's office ended up with me as defense attorneys. he was a tough guy. mitchell, he wouldn't give an inch in effect. i guess he testified before the committee, too, but he -- dean testified similar to the way he testified obviously before the senate watergate committee. but the testimony -- everybody said we have witnesses. we have to have witnesses. we have to have witnesses. i said it in the early stages. it turned out doar's instinct was the right instinct. we had witnesses. if it was up to doar we wouldn't have had witnesses i don't think. but the pressure of the committee was we had to have some witnesses so doar said we have to have some witnesses. it was my job then to prepare these witnesses, me and others to prepare these witnesses. and the witnesses, which i had great hopes would have a great impact really didn't have great impact. what had great impact was these statements of inform

with sumner was but blaine was not a radical republican. he was a moderate in that regard. he still wanted to build the republican party in the south. and that's why he was so strongly for suffrage for the -- for the freed slaves. and -- and for that part of reconstruction. but he was not for, you know, tremendous punishment for the south some of the radicals were. >> our callers are here for our three guests as we talk about the life and times of james g. blaine. unsuccessful nominee for president in the 1884 election. grover cleveland was the successful candidate. but we believe that he had an outside influence -- outside influence on american history. we are learning more about that tonight. wood land hills, california. you are on the air. >> caller: yes. hi. >> hello, eric. >> caller: hello. how are you? continuing on about the -- james g. blaine's personality, i was wondering certainly is larger than life character. do you see him embodied in any current politician? thank you. >> well, let me -- ask -- neil briefly and ask the two guests. >>

was the most well paid. money was not always as motivation. it was more if he got so used to be on television he did not complete if he was not on. >> what was the story of mike wallace and dan rather? >> mike wallace is a whole other case. he was the toughest interviewer cbs ever had. it is a style of how you interview people. wallace and cronkite had their differences, but they became close in later years. it is called the battle of the bathroom at cbs. it is a long story. rather did "memo gate" about george w. bush in the national guard. there was some sentiment by mike wallace that rather should have just quit and taken the knife. edward r. murrow always said in journalism, be ready to clean your desk out in half an hour. if you make one big mistake he will be gone. rather kept fighting for his job and eventually suing and keeping the open wound. dinr producers got fire d in it. wallace that you should be the people behind the scenes alone and be man enough to quit and just take the blame. people would have looked up to rather more. he confronted

>> the question was where it came from and how it got there. the second thing that was important to me was, remember that howard baker had been embarrassed by john's testimony about the back channel to the white house and his chief of staff had to resign when that was discovered. i was thinking thompson has to resign and baker probably has to leave the committee. i was pretty naive, but that was my belief. >> i have to be frank, one of the things i did in the procession before i appeared publicly, i decided to let baker, howard baker know that i knew he had a back channel to the white house. and pretty much what he'd said, because i'd written the president's talking papers and helped facilitate and set up the meeting. and rather than pull the rug out from underneath him publicly, i thought i would gently tug on it privately, which i did. and in a sense i think it neutered him. he said, what else do i know that he wanted to be careful about? and i knew -- i knew from my dealings with sam dash in preparation of my appearance that howard was -- much too -- the frustration of sam dash seemed t

>> i believe he did, yes. >> was that agreement made? that was hell was going to happen, the weapons were going to be turned over to the shift pharma? >> that was my impression, yes. >> when you left the meeting, it was your impression the weapons would be turned over to the sheriff's department and not the police department? >> yes, as instructed by my attorney. >> based on the conversation with your attorney or based on the conversation with the inspectors? >> well, my attorney was present during the conversation. based on the conversation taking place, i a understood the weapons would be turned over to the police department but over the saturday it would be handed over to the sheriff's department. >> this was a discussion you had with the inspectors? >> no, it is what my attorney had instructed or suggested to me. >> your information about any conversation that may have been had with the inspectors is not first hand? is that correct? >> yes and no. part of it was first and and part of it was not. >> on the specific issue of whether the weapons would be

was that all about? >> guest: yeah. he was not actually incommunicado for nine months. he was away from--the time he left eland for the spanish-american war, he was away for ne months altogether endu tumof8, ht oedal the loose ends yet. stephen crane disappeared into the bowels of havana for four months--that's when he was trtoerrantodo--and apparently di first at a hotel, then at a boarding house; communicated communicated with no one except his agent took to his room, didn't en see the correspondence very much. c-span: this is cora here. >> guest: mm-hmm. asort ouof: biphe a i think it was another biographer, but i don't remember who, who said that there -- there's a point in every biography when the biographer falls out of love with the andi elyl of wmyjebuwa e ppedhi he behaved very badly. she was absolutely broke in england, desperate for money. c-span: and this is her also... >> guest: mm-hmm. c-span: ... next to stephen crane. she's de--i guess you write her c-: w his attraction... to her? >> guest: well, i think she di't photograph well, to be fair to her. also, a loof

what this was about, and i was apologizing for the. that was explained to her. if that helps. >> just the phrase but because professionally we are definitely in this together. what was your understanding of that? >> i think that is about "the sun" had made this decision to back conservatives, to part company with the labour. and so "the sun" wanted to make sure it was helping the conservative party put its best foot forward with the policies we are announcing the speech is going to make, and all the rest of it. and i think that's what that means. >> professionally covering, "the sun" and you were bound together to some extend? >> i think what it means was that she put it, friends but professionally. me as leader of the conservative party and her in newspapers. we were going to be pushing the same political agenda. >> the country suffers, she refers to in a forward-looking way. is that the forward-looking direction you often had with her? >> yes. we were neighbors. >> okay. now, move forward in time to may 2011, mr. cameron, to deal with a point

wa's, anybody been there. i'm sorry, noi it's a very big state, but we went to wa wa's, i went to wa wa's to order a stand witch. you press a touch tone key pad, touch that and the sandwich comes in, touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier, there's your sandwich. it's amazing. >> it's amazing. (laughter) >> you know, when these candidates get out of their comfort zone. >> yeah. >> and that's what-- and in smalltown america, you've got to be able to, you know, speak the language. >> msnbc anchor andrea mitchell with unof the contributors, chris, are laughing as you saw at a clip of mitt romney that they had edited to make the g.o.p. presidential candidate seem, well, overly excited about his sandwich ordering experience at wa wa, here is what really happened. >> i went to order a sandwich. you press a little touch tone key pad, all right. you touch that and the sandwich comes in, touch this, touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier there's your sandwich. it's mazing people in the private sector learned how to compete and it's time to bring competition to the federal government to get it smaller and never re

so although sami was right, it was ordinary. it washat reason i was so passionate about bringing his story to an american audience. and then the other part of it, is that sami himself is so extraordinary. and out of that lived experience, out of that narrative, came someone who is so deeply committed, not only about the possibility that there could be peace could be reconciliation between israelis and palestinian. he's not unique in that he is seeking nonviolence. i know, many pl and israelis who are committed to the principle of nonviolence in their work. many people say well, here we do not want to kill each other. we have to find some way to live together without violence and with peace. so in that sammy embraces nonviolence. that's not extraordinary or out of the ordinary. he goes beyond that in the absolute conviction and absolute belief that if things -- if the situation could be one where there is quality where everyone's right and needs and dignity were equally respected not only could israelis and palestinians live together, t

who was going to replace walter cronkite in 1981. he was beloved. back then, it was retirement age at 65. walter cronkite decided to go out at the top of his game. and do these science specials and things. he wanted to enjoy life. there was a big fight going on. do you pick roger mudd or dan rather? cronkite sided with picking rather because of this foreign experience. he believes in the foreign correspondents. roger mudd had a family and did not go to vietnam. he rejected serving in vietnam as a reporter. he made his name doing largely civil-rights and capital washington reports. cronkite said he regretted it later. i write movingly after talking to roger mudd about mudd and cronkite's up and down relationship. the head honcho at cbs, after cronkite did a lack luster performance in san francisco, pulled cronkite from doing the atlantic city democratic convention of lyndon b. johnson. there was a duo to compete with brinkley. cronkite thought mudd was tried to take his spot. their relationship had a lot of ups and downs. it was very moving at the end of their lives.

was often ill. it was hard to pin down the problem was. some biographers suggested it was a nervous exhaustion from the campaigns, the stress he was under. he would retreat and try to recover and he would experiment with walnuts and sleeping -- a catch of diet and sleeping with his head oriented to the north and these kinds of things. he would often write back to his brother suggesting these were working out great for him. >> switching gears. in our time, as the nation began to march toward world war i, what happened to the labor movement as all of the international political turmoil in the country was making the decisions about his role in that? >> sure. when the war first broke out in europe, most americans, workers and otherwise, were very determined to keep out of the war. and there were isolationists, especially in the midwest and south, who said god gave us the atlantic ocean for a reason. that is not to get involved in the european war. the many large immigrant groups in the country were deeply divided over the conflict overseas but

it was like america the beautiful. it was so rural. it was such a different world for me. the first sighting of my brother. he didn't know i was coming was at the packing house. i remember seeing him, millions of apples coming down the flumes. my brother was looking at every single piece of fruit to be sure it was shipped correctly. he was to tender. i was seeing him from a long shot. i thought oh my god, all he needs is a sweater, he'd look just like are mr. rogers. i began to realize i didn't get it. that was the beginning. then i began bombing him with questions about apples and fruit. there was one moment that did change things in my perception, which is we were walking one day, i worked the fields and packing house routine, 5:00 a.m. routine. we were walking at dawn with the pickers who were all working, my brother was walking ahead of me. i saw all the shades of green, i was able to get my own ego out of the way. i thought he is amazing. this brother of mine is amazing. he has built up something astonishing here. it was almost like he was no longer invisible to me. i

that this process was aided and abetted by what i believe was a knee jerk reaction and clearly an unfair decision that was counter to any journalism principles. the fact that he was also fired was beyond outrageous since everybody had anticipated it, the word was coming out. it had been leaked. you never, never fire somebody for a truthful story either i mean, i've never seen that happen. so there were a lot of things here that are upsetting but the tide was cast and it was pretty ugly. >> anybody that spoke to that and urged action by ap from outside these organizations? >> yes. yes. i mean, it's not a big secret. the times wrote a letter. what is more interesting is kent cooper, who was then the general manager, which would be john's job today, which was president ceo, was to look at it objectively but it was impossible to look at it objectively when the president had already made the statement and then you find him writing letters that really frankly indicated that he was already selling the guy out and made statements in the introduction, where he was making points that, i hope when you look at all of

was wonderful. we had three little children, one was 8, one was 5, one was 2 and i was going to go off now on this thing. which was going to be hard for us. it turned out to be hard. that was a tough year in a family sense. i was away a lot that year. it was a very hard year. but it worked out. and i had to talk to my partners who most of them were understanding. there was only a few partners. they thought i was sort of crazy to go off. i resigned from my firm because this is a very sensitive thing. my firm was not as well-known as it is today. it was not as strong as it is today. it was successful, it was -- so i resigned. some people in the impeachment didn't have to resign. i resigned because i felt if things went badly on this impeachment and who knows what kind of attacks we would be under and there were attacks to some extent, i just didn't want it to hurt the firm. i wasn't even guaranteed i could come back to the firm under that circumstance but i said i just wanted to do this. this was a great challenge. my wife was supportive. although it turned out to be a hard year. she said -- and i went an

was a decision made. that was a decision made -- i was sitting there. sort of -- there was -- it was way above me kind of thing. i didn't understand that decision made within the committee, within -- the leadership of the house. and the staff, i mean, that's -- that's -- they came to that conclusion. i think they thought they had everything. first i don't think we had the manpower. i don't think we had the wherewithal to do original investigation, i believe. but that's -- >> you could have? >> could have. i just don't remember now. you have to ask others who would have -- were in a better position than. >> i was decision to issue a subpoe subpoena, that must have been -- >> yeah. >> some people that did not want -- >> very. i remember -- again, that -- i would be an observer in a situation like that. you know. discussions took place, extremely intense -- i think some of the members and lawyers that you interview, have interviewed, we will talk about that. just very intense. again, not arguing. but just you don't know what to do. i mean, this is -- you kn

was it months? was it weeks? was it years? i don't want to get it wrong. so -- it certainly wasn't weeks. it was, i think, more than that. but i can't really give you anymore than that. >> were you given any advice as to the importance of james murdoch in this decision that he would have influence over his father and put bluntly, maybe draw his father away from im important ground? >> welpol ii think they were all ers important. i mean i didn't quite understand. it's like, that the son likened it under the white smoke i didn't quite understand how the decision would be made but theyyou kn were all important in terms of making that decision.avanagh, the "sun" readers trusted ra rebekah rebekah, dominique all of them and i felt showing how the ad conservative party would be goode o for country, good for readers and had a chance of winning them back to the conservative fold and that's when i focused on. no >> how important were the freuds in all of this if not as decisionmakers but as facilitators? >> very difficult. the politics, i'm not quite sureot of that. so i'm not totally -- i'm not to

was doing. it was saving lives. at's why it was imptant to us. and to go back now, as i have been able to go back, and to live in argentina or living there for several months a year, and to find people who stop me in the the street and thank me, and to meet people who were held in this terrible esma, this awful torture and killing-- how would you call it?-- in the center of buenos aires... >> hinojosa: which is one of the most extraordinary develop... and that's one of the things that, as i was reading for this interview, you know, you think of world war ii and it was like, well, that was perhaps a long time ago. what happened in argentina was happening in the 1970s, literally historically right around the corner. and it's like, "oh my god, how could they be torturing, killing disappearing, people?" i mean, did you kind of realize everything that was happening? >> yes. >> hinojosa: you did? >> not everything, it was impossible to know everything, but i was fortunate in that they arrested me. unfortunately for th, fortunately for me, i wasn't taken

was very easy. this was very partisan, yes. very sense, yes, but there was a cordiality and respect between the two parties. the ranking member was congressman hutchison who was quite eloquent, and had the deep respect of chairman rodino, but hutchison was up in age and this obviously was very stressful for him. so the second ranking republican was a gentleman by the name of mcclory from illinois, i think, and he became very important. in other words, he -- congress was in constant consultation with him, and there was that relationship where you, you know, that you respected each other. it was a lot of partisanship. there was a lot of people out on the fringes but a deep institutional respect between the two parties and there wasn't i think some of the rancor that exists today, even though this is an unbelievable story, undertaking, with enormous amount of partisan input here. >> can you help us understand that? because as you said, it was a partisan time and yet there wasn't the rancor. >> yes. >> so how -- was it just the way in which the congressmen inter

was in. he was in a place he didn't want to be. he was far from people he wanted to be close to. he was not in his territory. that's how i felt writing by myself, far from home, not wanting to do it everyday from the time i got up to the time i got drunk but i did. and the second half was written all in a month. and it worked for this book. i can't say it might work for every other book it probably wouldn't work for any other book. i started this book in third person and thought for sure as a young man's voice in first person. i went in third person and i was 5 pages in and said, this doesn't sound right or read right, something's wrong. i went back because i learned from my first book, you have to think about voice and where it's coming from. i went back and put it in first person and realized it started to work. what i did was put it in the journal entries and it became what i should have known from the beginning because a began my colleges career as a film major wanting to make films not knowing i wanted to tell stories on the page and not on the screen. what i did was a steppe

a very uppity individual, this was a very important, a more important individual than gross was, gross was a very unassuming gentleman. and this gross praised him left and right and everybody in america knew that it was not true because just a month before gross has wrichb an article about the history of medicine and he wrote that no intelligent american would ever listen to joseph lister. so the answer is everything that you said is absolutely true. it is a fascinating story with joseph lister and samuel gross and his tour of america. i thank you for bringing that up. sir? >> thank you for your presentation. >> you are welcome. >> i am an anesthesiologist. i appreciate your wonderful photographs, or the types that you showed. there are statues to crawford long, who southerners believed discovered ether-anesthesia all over the south. not sure if they're coincidental with the civil war. certainly he is well recognized. my point is, america was known for yankee ingenuity, inventions discoveries in every field except medicine. when you compare what was known of scientific medicine in america,

the government party was getting its act together. i was felt he was a potential ally for pointing out rebekah brooks "the sun -- "the sun" readers are moving in our direction. >> approximately when did you think mrs. burks was on the -- the side? about six months before this it does support? >> i do not know. go through my diary. give you a date. >> not even a sense of when it might have been? was it months of? was it weeks? was it years? to get it wrong. it was certainly not weeks. it was more than that. i cannot give you any more than that. >> were you given any surprise -- advice of importance of james murdoch that he would have this over his father? >> i think they're all important. i did not understand. it was like the white smoke coming out after a papal election. >> i do not understand how the decision would be made. they were all important interest in making that decision. rebekah brooks, dominic mohan, all of them. i had to focus on reading them back to the conservative fold. >> how important were they and all of this/ ? -- in all of this? >>

was he from? >> he was from maine. he was from portland, maine. and, in fact, lived there, retained a residence there even after he went to wall street after his congressional career. he was very attached to the pine tree state. >> how long did he serve in congress? >> 12 terms. could i have an essay exam -- or multiple choice exam. some of these are getting hard. he had 12 terms including three terms as speaker. >> how did he become speaker? what was it -- >> by sheer force of intellect and by prowess in the cut and thrust of debate and the devastating wit with which he dealt with the democratic enemy, all of that was in the credit column to his claims to be speaker. then, too, he was a political leader. he was -- people just looked up to him. he wasn't exactly physically magnetic. he was immense. he stood 6'3" and his weight sometimes approached 300 pounds, but he had a force of personality and of intellect that was overwhelming. >> we just finished a series of interviews with david cohn and one of him is about the artists that did the cover on t

and the tariff was -- was -- a major factor. >> currency was also -- >> oh, very much so. and had been since the civil war because, of course, the civil war had proliferated the use of paper currency. >> right. >> and so the whole issue of greenback currency was very much in the 1870s and '80s. >> houston is up next and our caller's name is james. hello, james. >> caller: hello. >> you are on the air. go ahead, please. >> caller: okay. well, you said -- mentioned the civil war governor. i just -- the first republican governor was actually my great-great-great grandfather. i wonder what his role will play. additionally, i think that the rift with conkling may have cost blaine new york and may have cost him the presidency. so some of his -- pulling the lion's tail came back to haunt him, i think. >> he was a little older than blaine. he was born on 1809 in oxford county. he was a highly skilled lawyer who had served as governor of maine briefly and became became a senator. and then in 1860 he's chosen as lincoln's running mate for vice president. and serves as the vice presid

was she? >> she was angie. i mean, she was fine. >> that night anita accompanied angie and russell on an expedition to a series of bars and clubs. angie's boyfriend ben was not present. >> ben was aware of the fact that angie, russell, and i were going out together. >> at least to evelyn, dben didn't seem like the type to get jealous. >> i couldn't imagine him hurting angie. >> the even ended at 1:00 a.m. angie dropped russell off at his apartment then took anita home. anita thought about spending the night at angie's but decided against it. what was the last thing you said that night? >> see you at the football game. >> that would be the texas-oklahoma game. but anita did not see angie at the game. and in the era before cell phones, there was no way for anita to try to find her. >> she doesn't meet me there. very strange because angie was a woman of her word. i remember her saying i wonder where angie is. my roommate said there's something i need to tell you. she said you might want to sit down. she goes angie was murdered la

afraid was in this day he was a face it was in the us it was the same people the same mobsters who were bribing him to get out of jail who are also there was that he was hiring to kill castro who had exactly some of the same ones from september sixth i mean the same month september sixteenth we show in the book the you know the cia. long secret report that has ok is these mobsters and. these guys are trying to kill fidel right before the sixty election and then and then it's the same guys like. who are donating five months before watergate for a new one million dollar bribe to nixon you know to let those special conditions the mob some of the mob mexicans money and cash well yes there was cash it was from las vegas chuck colson got one of the payments by the way didn't let the december nine hundred seventy one bribe was confirmed by the f.b.i. confirmed by time magazine it was in two installments and the other thing nixon always tried to present himself as a very plain spoken regular folks kind of guy who grew up poor didn't gr

was. but this was a full revered engraving, so this is very famous. and paul revere was an even graver at the time and this was one of the many things that he did. so these young men were apprentices and they learned and they did whatever they wanted. in the 1820s, mike mushroom s o a forest floor after a rain, they popped up all over the place. these medical schools were exactly what they sounded like. they were proprietary, because doctors began to realize they could make a lot of money, instead of having one-on-one, i could make a lot of money if chris and i joined together with dr. ruben and we owned our own medical school and now instead of having three apprentices i could have 40 in new york. there was only one criteria to get into these medical schools and what do you think it was? it was money, money is what counted. if you could pay dr. rubening and dr. rutkows and dr. warren state, congratulations, you were about to become a dmplt so this is rutger's medical school, this happened into in the new york city on duane street. this is an interesting story because al

too young to go, she was seven, and dasha was 11, and that they thought she was too little, that they should protect her by keeping her at home. so, dasha went on the train, and she ended up with us in england. my father was kind of her overall guardian. my father also had an older brother in england, and so dasha went to english boarding schools and spent various vacations and things with us. the thing that we found out later was that -- this is one of the difficulties of the decision -- because of the decision that was made, melena was extent a concentration camp and she died, and she and my father's mother were on the last -- one of the last trains to good to ausshwich and a week later the war was over. so when dasha talked, she said the parents decided not to send the sister because she had a broken arm. that was not the story because later dasha told me that it was because she was too young and she would never forgive her parents for what happened. >> host: another story of choices people make. the chapters you have on turasin are gripping. amazing detail of

was anyone arguing? >> no. >> was anyone fighting? >> no. >> everyone was getting along? >> it was a nice, quiet night. >> but the night would not stay quiet for long. george and his younger brother david were awakened before dawn. their older sister, susan, said their 30-year-old mother had been shot. >> i told them to stay in the room. i didn't want them to see. they came out anyway. >> i looked into my mother's bedroom, and i couldn't see anything. it was like she was laying there asleep. and i went on into the bathroom, and there was a lot of blood all over the bathroom. so i come back up the bathroom and go into her room, and she was dead. >> when jerry enio, then a young homicide detective, arrived at the scene, he was confronted with three hysterical children. >> the children of course were upset. at that point they were no help at all, especially the two boys. the girl, she was distraught, and i really felt sorry for them. >> susan was 14 at the time, and she told police she had seen someone's foot going out the front door, then a car speeding away from the buildin

was quite to the point. and he really was about making it happen. he was unsentimental. when he lost an argument, when he lost a struggle he walked away from it said, okay, what's the next one? and he was very creative in coming up with ways to deal these problems. he and another delegate, lost to history, james wilson, between them quite a partnership in making the constitution happen. both really died in disgrace and very sad stories, but at the convention, they were terrifically important and very effective. >> the georgia delegate that we never heard of that you said if he hadn't done what he did we wouldn't have the same country we have today. >> yeah, abraham baldwin. unusual figure, he -- there was a key moment in the convention when the small -- it takes a second to set up -- big states, they were massachusetts, pennsylvania, virginia, which maybe today we don't think of as big states but they were then, were very eager to create proportional representation. so they would be able to vote their strength. until then, this country we always had one vote per state. an

it was it was it was believing in his heart because he was so. longing for his mother and for a father who loved him for his sister who had gotten separated with i think total fell for the whole idea of joining the marines you know be one be proud be you know fall in love will give you a family. not only was he one of the first americans to die his killed by friendly fire. tony was a very smart boy who was a genius i mean he really was tonal was a genius tono was creative thoughtful pensive he wrote. one of the most incredible kids i've ever raised in raising eighteen thousand. my concern. was to get this good looking kids' health back to get him back into school and to me it was obvious he was living on the streets get him off the streets. the boys every now and then as i've been raising them through all the years they say wouldn't it be great to go to the states and i say no you're not going to get a visa you don't have land you don't have bank accounts you don't have a job you don't have family they're not going to giv