he is mark wahlburg.been given by the state of massachusetts. gerri: how many? >> very few, very, very few. >> mark wahlburg might be the one to get it. >> it cuts both ways because people are going to know exactly what we're saying, oh, he only got it because of who he is. so a judge or anyone, the attorney general who, you know, the golf who's actually the -- the governor who's actually the one who gives this clemency or the pardon is going to look at that and, obviously -- gerri: he is from a rough background. let's be clear. this is a guy who otherwise would be toilet papering a house, his background was pretty rocky. >> there's thousands of children that come from disadvantaged neighborhoods that don't go and beat up two vietnamese immigrants. and by the way, there's allegations that when he was beating them, he was yelling racial slurs. >> we don't know any of that. you can't bring that from >> it sets a precedent that, okay, you can do dumb stuff when you're younger and get out of it when you're ol