commissioner wald. >> could i ask, commissioner josefowitz. >> i have a question from commissioner king and if i could just ask director nutter, as we kind of hear the feedback from the commission, this idea can this be, do we have the time and the band width within the retreat setting to really maximize the linkage of these two components of discussion that strategic plan and how we as a commission might prioritize our policy making role with the staff could you envision a way to link up and help to move the department agenda as a by product of the retreat? >> i think that is an excellent list and great suggestions about what will be really helpful to the staff as well as hopefully to the commissioners as well and figuring out to move forward together and one question that i would have is what sort of work can we do in advance of the retreat, either surveys or ranking because that is fantastic list and that would be great to either in the future commission meeting and advance of the retreat, or in some

>> new business, future agenda items. >> commissioner wald? >> so i have a brief issue, this is in response to comments that i received from people in my community following our last meeting, i would just appreciate it if the president would clarify for the record that at our last meeting, we did not adopt a statement of any kind, so clean power. >> and i think that after, what most would say, is a very brief, and uneventful, conversation, we had a discussion about trying to synthesize our thoughts around a statement but i think that the record would reflect that we did not approve a statement on that evening. and i think that our clerk monica, might confirm such. there was no action taken to develop the statement. >> we do have a request from the public to think about it again. >> right. >> but it was very confusing at the end there. and i appreciate your taking the time to clarify that, because a number of people as i said were confused. >> commissioner king? >> at some point in time i would like to dive into the conversion of grass fields a

>> no. >> commissioner wald? >> no. >> commissioner wan? >> no. >> [speaker not understood]. >> aye. >> so, commissioner arce was aye. commissioner king was no. commissioner josefowitz was -- what was your vote, commissioner josefowitz? >> yes. >> aye, okay. commissioner wald was no. so, that's -- commissioner wan was aye. it doesn't pass. >> see you next week, vice president courtney. if we can call the next item before doing that. if we can, we've kept a lot of folks. can we make our presentation to our labor folks? we have to stay here very briefly. >> i've got to go. [multiple voices] >> if we come at 4:00, we can have a quorum. >> [speaker not understood]. i don't know how many people you would have. i would like to say now that we've decided there is something we're going to deliver, because we said we're to do make change in this community that i using the community. citizen engagement is the key and he want to thank the greatest mayor in the world mayor lee. (clapping) >> not even election time. anyway thank you all for being here.

but to the commissioner wald, i firmly agree with you. when it comes to the green deal, come to public housing. we're ready for it. the building up in hunters point, it would be an excellent time to put some windmills up there because a lot of the residents up there are paying over $100 in pg&e bills. a lot of residents are paying pg&e and a lot of residents are not. we need to address that problem. i went verbally to the housing authority commission and suggested we put in charging stations in our public housing developments, hiring a security guard to guard them during the day. that was on deaf ears. i've been talking about windmills being put up in our parks that are right next to public housing, selling the energy to the public housing development, selling the rest if we have more to the city. it's a win/win deal. and also it would be where residents could actually see something happening and that's what we want. and it's a long-term deal when it comes to jobs. and i'm so glad that you're pushing for local hiring. stay on the good foo

. >> commission wald. >> just to follow up on the exchange, you and commissioner josefowitz were having, do we publish these figures any place on like on our website and in a location that even a moderately able computer able individual could find? we submit an annual report, and it is sfenvironment.org, and it is there, i believe.

. >> according to green wald the program was for the reading of stored e-mails and content of social media sites sites and cht rooms, and tracking communications, who the brass sillan president was talking to and the third parties her contacts are communicating with in an evident to map out her network, which can be far me

. >> i think that if we're going to do something, we start with what commissioner wald has. i think that's by far the most succinct that i've heard it. and then if there's something you need to add to it, president arce, then i think that you should take a look at the starting point of that note and add to it. and then i think we need to call it a motion and then we need to vote it up or down. >> right. >> and could i just say i would -- if we can come up with something tonight, i would like to propose, josh, that you go to the puc meeting -- whatever day it was, i scratched that out -- and stand up and read it on behalf of this commission. [laughter] >> the thing is that -- that's so easy. that's the easy part. but what are we saying? because i don't think we're saying -- [multiple voices] >> go ahead. >> in response to what you are saying, i think what you're complaining about is that they're not moving fast enough. >> i'm just saying -- we need a vision. we've articulated a vision at the environment commission. and advocates have worked on this for a long time. i started

. >> thank you, commissioners king, commissioner wald? >> i too think this sounds like a fantastic idea. i strongly second what commissioner king has said about an opportunity to providing an opportunity for residents to give us feedback on matters of concern to them and as a matter of historical record, and work on the commission and maybe even not our director, will know, that the reason why san francisco has the gag ordinance is because x-years ago, i can't remember when, the commission had a meeting in china town. >> yes. >> where a percentage of the people who came and spoke to us complained about plastic bags littering in their neighborhood. and i would like to have that sort of linkage as you know, sort of the goal of, and although i realize, and i can't realize it every time, but that should be the goal of the work that we do as a commission in the community. that we hear what they have to say, and we provide a meaningful response to issues of concern to them and the second point that i wanted to make is that it is to suggest that

commissioner wald. >> i'm just trying to figure out how important it is. it seems to me it's a mistake. it may be more important than i thought it was before, but it's also not -- it's not the be all and end all. we could get a rate. it could be 15 cents. it could be 30 cents. but that doesn't mean that people like eric and his colleague and you, chairman arce, in your day life, and the rest of us in our commission life can walk away. it is not the end of the battle. and, so, i don't want us to overemphasize its importance because that will lull us into a false sense of security that we don't have more work to do together to get the program that we want. so, if we could say something like we would favor a rate that will maximize the amount of money that's available for local buildout while not being so high as -- i'm making this up and people who know me know you do not look to me for economics. [laughter] >> thank you, commissioner king. [laughter] >> cannot drive away the customers, which i regard as -- if that's the message, that's a simple message that

. >> commission wald. >> just to follow up on the exchange, you and commissioner josefowitz were having, do we publish these figures any place

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my name is wald i'm the founding of the business on the street. i would like to propose to you what would it be like if i opened another store in 6 months and called it retail therapy. does the public have the right to have any input into what's going on here. i understand that we are making a decision about a permit, but i think i would really like to get my neighbors and my customers the opportunity to be able to give you the input that i think they would all provide you which is to say that they don't want it on 16th street. thank you for your time. >> next speaker, please. >> good evening, my name is don allen. i am also the owner of the casanova lounge for the last 16 years. i heard a lot of opinions about this issue over the last few months. when it came up i had never heard of jack spade or kate spade. i asked my wife what is jack spaed, she said that's kate spade's men's store. i think that indicates a popular knowledge of what jack spade is to the public. i think the valencia corridor has made an effort in the pass 2 years to try to avoid

. >> commission wald. >> just to follow up on the exchange, you and commissioner josefowitz were having, do we publish these figures any place on like on our website and in a location that even a moderately able computer able individual could find? we submit an annual report, and it is sfenvironment.org, and it is there, i believe. >> i would like to encourage us to think about other sort of easier ways that we can make the remarkable success of this program and other programs at the department more easily known residents of the city. so they know what value they are getting from the great work that you all do. but in other words, did not have the packet from the annual report. but you know, maybe then the rolling thingy on the face of the website that said, did you know last year, we... >> director? >> great idea, commissioners and one of the things that we have been talking about is having a sustainable metrics dashboard where it is not buried on the website but right on the front so that is a great idea and we would love the support from the commissioners that could make that happen

my name is wald i'm the founding of the business on the street. i would like to propose to you what would it be like if i opened another store in 6 months and called it retail therapy. does the public have the right to have any input into what's going on here. i understand that we are making a decision about a permit, but i think i would really like to get my neighbors and my customers the opportunity to be able to give you the input that i think they would all provide you which

commissioner wald. >> i'll talk fast. i want to say like others, these were fabulous presentations. the fact y'all are out there in the community giving these to people, to our neighbors and the businesses that we deal with, is really fantastic. >> thank you. >> about the plastic bags, the work that you're doing puts all the burden on the restaurant owners. i wondered if you have given any thought to educating san franciscans about what they ought to expect when they go to restaurants after october. >> absolutely. we have a parallel communications plan for residents of san francisco. so, last fall when the first phase of the ordinance went into play, we had a blitz of over, i think it was over 60 corner transit hub outreach events where we have teams giving out reasonable bags from our canvas bags. they were doing pledges, making folks take photos with pledges, i pledge to use reusable bags. an exciting fall campaign, talked to residents. we look to do it october 1st when the ordinance goes into effect. you're right, part of this ordinance isn't just the plastic bags, but it's also

. ~ commissioner wald i want to give you a history on a program, which is quite long for a program that hasn't been launched yet. and tell you about the kinds of policy issues we've been trying to address recently and where we're at right now. okay. i understand, monica, over to the left, the one that's on. we'd like to show the powerpoint presentation now. while we're doing that, you do have the paper copy of my briefing before you and we can start that. if you look at the third slide, the board of supervisors approved clean power s.f. as part of a bigger energy strategy in 2004, and that energy strategy was intended to pursue the city's commitment to reducing greenhouse gases, to develop local -- okay. i think mine is not loaded here. so, i'll just try to be clear for the audience. to develop local renewable energy resources, increase conservation and energy efficiency projects, and support the local economy with jobs from a build out of local energy resources. and then there was a lot of work done between 2004 and september 2012 when the board of supervisors approved the, i should sa

george wald leaping forward and saying if so, i would be glad to help you come and pack it up.laughter] toward the end of the meeting, a woman toward the back stood up and introduced herself as arbor ackerman, a member of the cambridge city council. she said we the counsel are very interested in this question. shortly after, the council began a series of hearing. established a review board which had citizens, no scientist except for the health commissioner of cambridge who served as the ex officio member. they held meetings, 75 hours of meetings with dirty five witnesses. i took a group of my graduate students with me since these were public, held in the city hall chambers. they were fascinating. at the end of their 75 hours of ,eetings, it took almost a year a unanimous report was issued and the report recommended the city establish a mean in simple biohazard committee, but they argued we ought to do that but local authority was not make aiate place to decision on scientific experimentation because experimentation was taking place internationally and therefore you had to go be

. >> rose: wald whatwould you labor over? >> every word. >> rose: to make sure that what? >> to make sure we were correctly conveying to the relationship the meaning of what he was saying. >> you want to get the-- >> we didn't want to just get a literal translation. we wanted to conivate meaning of his words. >> rose: there is also this, who is-- and i asked this, this morning of cardinal dolan. who is offended by this? who is botherredly by this? who within the church? >> well, you know, that's a big question. i'm going to go at it the opposite way. i would say-- and i'm not going out on too much of a limb here-- i would say most of the women and men who work in the parishes and in front-line ministry receive this with i would say unfamed joy, with great enthusiasm of spirit because it speaks in terms that resonate with the lived experience of those who are pastors, whether women or men. i think those who would not receive this with joy would be those who have conceived of the faith in narrow, dogmatic terms, and not in terms of what francis says at the beginning of faith

. >> according to green wald the program was for the reading of stored e-mails and content of socialtes sites and cht rooms, and tracking communications, who the brass sillan president was talking to and the third parties her contacts are communicating with in an evident to map out her network, which can be far me revealing than the content of e-mails. brazil's justice minister speaking to vice-president biden and issuing a scathing statement saying if this is confirmed they would be considered serious and would constitute a violation of brazil's sovereignty. >>> those who support the nsa mission of foreign intelligence collection say the agency's job is to gather intelligence that informs u.s. policy and these programs may have been achieving that goal. >> we're learning about data collection by the drug enforcement administration. so not just the nsa but the daye. something they called the hemisphere program. >> this was reported by "the new york times" when they received a series of power point slides. as many as four billion calls are affected, including at&t, and then made avail

staff writer at salon, alix sites wald and host of msnbc's disrupt, karen finney. and joining us now from washington is former national security council spokesman and co-founder of fenway strategies, tommy detour. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to ask you just about how this message has been crafted. and, you know, the president obviously did not draft the language coming out of the senate foreign relations committee yesterday but certainly i think it makes some of us who are concerned about how big this intervention will get a little queasy, if not plain simply worried. and i guess i ask you, as a master of the message, how well the administration handled the back and forth, the reasoning around syria. >> i think i hear what you're saying with respect to the resolution. the white house has been clear that what they're looking for is a time limited action that is narrow in scope in terms of addressing the distribution methods with the chemical weapons. so they want a limited intervention in syria to try to deal with cw specifically. i thi

. >> we'll bring in chris stirreshgs wald. >> i like the bossa nova.hat was posted on speaker.gochlt taking a page from the daily she and when all else fails try satire. >> and in a position, he points out that there hasn't been any discussion between the speaker and the president since the syria syria backle. and we get closer to the cliff. >> the president makes the case he doesn't want to negotiate over the debt ceiling. it is about paying your credit card bill for things you have already purchased. listen to the president's rationale here. >> this debt seouling, i want to remind people, in case you haven't been keeping up, raising the debt ceiling that is done over a hundred times, does not increase our debt. it does not somehow promote. it says that you got to pay the bills that you racked up, congress. it is a basic function of making sure that the full, faith and credit of the united states is preserved. >> you have to pay the bills you are racking up. why controversial. >> the president is trying to say something they don't believe. none of the

the journalist who first broke this, green wald, says spying on the mexican president and assistant bymunications, who she was talking to and in turn third party she communicated with in an effort to map out the social web which can be for more revealing by than the contents of the communications themselves. speaking about the nsa leaks last week, he is now with a scathing statement, quote, if the facts of the report are confirmed, they would be considered very serious and constitute a violation of brazil sovereignty. there is new reaction today to a story first reported by the new york times which brings together at&t with the drug enforcement agency narcotics program. significance here is that hemisphere program apparently accesses records as far back as 1987, which is far longer than the nsa standard retention period of just five years. >> one of the things which is a bit frightening when you look at it in the broader sense, is that nsa is so focused on internal functions, to look at e-mail, metadata, phone numbers, only, the united states, we are now dependent on foreign partners f

general wald, we appreciate you joining us discussing some of the unintended con questionses and negativeces of a government shutdown. all the best to you, is. >> thanks, adam. tracy: that time. we have to get a check on the markets. jason weisberg is on the floor and joins us. jason, friday afternoon, you're inching to go home, hit a little happy hour. what will you do before that first drink though? will you sell anything, get out of it? >> no. stay the course. not going to jump into the deepwater and i'm not going to get out of the pool. it is nice and warm where i'm standing. >> i understand. you're not worried about this budget nonsense? is any of it worrying you right now? the market is not seeming to like it all that much. >> i tell you i think the investment community is a little tired of washington being so self-serving. it is another topic entirely. these people will eventually come to a last minute deal because it is their job, we're coming up to an election, no one wants to look bad because everyone is going for re-election the following year. i think investment community is s

i'm brooke wald wn. hour two. we begin with huge news, good news for a change.georgia teenager and her family are right now reuniting after she was kidnapped from her very own home, in what really started as a home break-in. police confirmed just a short time ago they have found her. she's 14-year-old ayvani perez. we're told this afternoon she is doing just fine. she is being checked out. two suspects, according to fbi and police, are in custody. but as they told reporters last hour, there are additional suspects who are still as large. >> i must stress that this investigation is still active. we have suspects, potential suspects at large, and the information that you all are asking for would potentially jeopardize our investigation. so we ask you again to please be patient with us as we provide information to you. >> so here's what we do know. we do know that two men broke into the family home right around 2:00 in the morning tuesday. they demanded money. they wanted jewelry from ayvani's mother. when she couldn't give it to them, the men got violent. they sho

one more here from ed o'keefe of "the washington post" on capitol hill, senator baldwin, tammy wald wynn, quote: there is an opportunity not to vote today while we see the news of the last 24 hours playing themselves out. we're going to continue talking your time up to the time the senate comes in or maybe even beyond that and hoping to hear from some senate republicans as well. lisa in indianapolis, just the phone numbers are on your screen, but democrats, 202-585-3885. republicans, 202-558-3886. independents and others, 202-5 202-585-3887. indianapolis on republican line, sorry about that. >> caller: hi. i was an officer with the military. i had gone to chemical school, so i truly understand the importance of getting those weapons out of syria. i think that, you know, our government is just misguided in saying our goal is just to punish them and make it so they won't employ them again. i think the whole message that they should have been saying all along is we're going to get those weapons away from you. we don't want them to fall into the hands of al-qaeda. we don't want them to be so