i call it spanish language waterboarding. theas given them a love of culture.f you love your culture, you are able to love other cultures. it is about being inclusive. where i get in trouble. , ilusive, exclusive debate fret sometimes that members of play with community this notion of assimilation. to be so want inclusive that you sacrifice. >> they called him the white hispanic. it looked like he assimilated pretty well because he was americans.the white you are always going to have that in every culture. unclee calling people tom's. we are calling them tio tacos. is very culture that defined, but we are also able to .et other cultures the guy that gave me a job was nan wayans.ns -- kee \ they included me in that world. you have to keep true to who you are. it's not that i am changing because i am ashamed or don't respect my culture. andght have sushi at lunch lunch, butey's -- at it is still part of my culture. are driving your reality, you will be fine. tavis: the new book is called forced white: confessions of a latino in hollywood." on, and it isou good to

his embrace of torture and making jokes about waterboarding a couple weeks ago. >> when you go to thewas described as a torture device. >> no one ever in the history of mankind thought that waterboarding wasn't torture until this man came along. this man has the ability to look at black and say it's white. >> you can forgive him for making mistakes but not saying you can forgive this mistake. what are you saying? >> it's not my position to forgive anybody. but let me do say that i think violating the core -- >> you have an opinion about this. >> i do. i think it's one of the most awful acts by an executive of this country in the history of the united states. it's not forgivable by history. it will be his legacy, the man who brought torture to america and was proud of it. >> did -- >> as well as bankrupting the country in two disastrous wars and refusing ever to admit error. >> when did you change your mind about him? >> i changed my mind through the events of that war. i put out an ebook called "i was wrong." i never believed -- i said no american -- this story is from guantanamo are

you can't let this go. >> don't waterboard. >> see how bob is? you just said shoot them. >> i think there's a point -- >> yesterday i was, like, hey, there's more to the story. looks like the guy got ran over. you can't just run over people. i've got to admit, i didn't see that the one guy who ended up being run over got in front of the suv on purpose, slowing him down, p then stopped and now this guy's got a kid in the car. i was completely wrong on this one. i apologize. >> why do you think they're not prosecuting this? >> peter and i had a big fight about this, too. >> why are they not prosecuting them? seriously? >> they're going to. no, bob, because they don't have the rest of the guy. that's why they keep running the video. or roll some of the guys to get them to name other people involved. >> dana, are you still going to be part of your motorcycle gang every sunday? because you ride every sunday. >> the tiny trikes? >>> still to come on "the five," bachelor bob has some important advice for married or young birds getting married out there

in the end those work and we didn't need secret reasons and we didn't need waterboarding and we didn'td guantÁnamo bay and it worked in the end. collaboration conflict coordination and smart policing work to keep america safe. >> how were you able to get access to a lot of these records? >> adam goldman my co-author and i reported for the associated press and for about 18 months from 2011 to mid-2013, early 2013 we were reporting on the nypd for the associate press and pyramid reporting we met dozens of people in the nypd who were willing to share their stories and provide the documents that spelled out in great detail how this intelligence division has ronin size and grown in intrusiveness and almost into missing in terms of what they're going to collect on american citizens in secret with no review. so we had help from a lot of people in law enforcement enforcement and adam and i cover counterterrorism and national security for the ap so a lot of the people who helped craft the zazi case were people who we knew professionally because we covered the zazi case in real-time. >> the firs

. >> i was a big supporter of waterboarding. >> where's the water? >> shooter and friends.boarding is a laughing matter. >> it was a good program, it was a legal program. it was not torture. i would strongly support using it again if we a vihigh-value detainee. >> this could go on all day. >> the number two trender. dog run. >> did you hear the one about the dog who finished a half marathon? >> boogie got loose on the course, ran in the pack and finished the race. >> a lost dog found his way to the finish line at an indiana half marathon. >> i don't know if he was prescouting the race. you know how racers check the course out. >> i found out later that, you know, he was all over facebook. >> tell police he is the world's first dog to complete a half marathon without assistance from a human. >>> and today's top trender, brown noise. >> the american people have spoken very clearly. they don't want the government shut down. they do not want america to default on its debts. but they don't want obama care. obama care is the flaw of the land and it must go away. >> congressman pa

when they were talking about waterboarding in an attempt to get execution off the table. had experiences like that where you are prevented from discussing something that would have potentially help your client's case? >> sure. the rules and regulations that are governing the military commissions are incredibly confining for defense counsel. they are subject to very strict protective orders that require them to keep classified information classified. and it means that they cannot share that classified information with people who actually may be able to help their clients. so for example, the lawyers representing the man accused that is, the men now called the 9/11 five, they are seeking to disclose facts of their clients torture to various international tribunals that they are seeking to look at the allegations of torture. and they are unable to do that. there is no doubt that the u.s. government engaged in torture. it is publicly known at this point. and these lawyers want the individual acts of torture against their clients to be properly investigated. and they are unabl

was about start center of the cia maintains that you were briefed in two thousand and two about waterboarding and other enhanced interrogation techniques used by the bush administration on terrorism suspects. why didn't you speak up at the time about this issue. and i'm smiling because i was asked that exact question within the hour . our conversation. i'm holding up a notebook since nine hundred seventy seven i have carried a notebook in which i. inscribe among other things what i do throughout the day when these charges were made there i've been briefed on enhanced interrogation i asked the cia to give me the dates were. those briefings took place and they gave me four dates are i went back to my note books a contemporaneous record of what i had done and i found that on three to four dates there was no greeting and on the fourth day there was a cia briefing but it was on a subject other than enhanced interrogation when i presented this information to the cia and the f.b.i. they. determined that i probably was not at any of those free pins and they have a stop representing that i had a had p

powerless to do anything and i love how my challenge is the word torture so funny they don't consider waterboarding torture considering how japanese troops use the same tactic and against american soldiers and world war two and were executed for it but i guess it's easy to pass the buck to everyone else and government a suspect except for the agency most responsible yours but an interview with a cia official just wouldn't be complete without talking about drones today's preferred method of or. is a very precise weapon. collateral damage is very low it's not zero i wish it was. but it is as close to zero as we have gotten with any weapon system in the history of this country. most precise weaponry in the history of this country and zero collateral damage what a salesman i wonder if he's already making his move into the private defense sector to sell these and murder machines and you know i would. love to hear mike recites that almost zero collateral damage statistic to the family members of the three thousand five hundred and ninety five people that have already lost their lives to drone strikes tha

no longer allows the use of waterboarding, other so-called enhanced tinner the game techniques. instead, it is time, wear him down, play a game with his mind. that's what they'll try to do now. >> brian ross, also here with us tonight. brian, thank you. our coverage of the terror ramds for this evening, much more, first thing in the morning on "good morning america." >>> we turn now to that developing headline out of texas tonight. the frightening race car crash at nascar's grand prix of houston. a famous driver caught in the middle of this crash and fans among the injured. here's abc's gio benitez. >> reporter: it was the final lap of the race, the grand prix of houston, when dario fran key teem's car went air born, claiming into the cash fence. debris sent flying into the car. >> oh, bleep ]! >> reporter: this photo shows a piece of that fence in the stands. the three-car crash injured 13 people. houston firefighters rushing to free most of them right on the scene. but two others had to be hospitalized. franchitti, we're told, is awake and alert. he's a three-time indill 500 w

waterboarding. hitting. bouncing suspects off walls. confining them in small spaces. loud music. sleep deprivation. nudity. keeping suspects in physical stress positions. if these were americans being held overseas by a foreign power, would we have called that "torture"? >> i... i... actually, john, want to challenge you on the word "torture." my officers carried out the guidance that was provided to them in both administrations. and, obviously, that was different guidance. what's my view? my view was that those coercive techniques were the wrong thing to do. my view was that those techniques were inconsistent with american values. and for that reason, i don't think they should have been done. >> pelley: you can see john's fascinating interview with mike morrell this sunday on "60 minutes." the football world is buzzing tonight about what legendary quarterback brett favre is saying about his memory. favre was a fixture on sunday afternoons for two decades as one of the best of all time. he played a record 297 games in a row. and he was sacked more than 500 times. he has no idea h

you believe that we have war criminals actually joking about the fact that they got away with waterboarding jokes are written by the victors and that's how words are right it is very funny it's exactly like those three jokes written by the victors you know it was it was a riff if it was like dick cheney was quoting that joke by jay leno that is the circle of hell that i never thought i'd see that is so scary to see. those all come together it was just. awful this. thing of let's talk about this ridiculous sham of the government shutdown in the partisan hackery surrounding this obamacare debate how is it that a we have a congress that is refusing to take a pay cut of course there are they're popular in less than cornell skippy's they have incredible health care plans and choose from themselves they have three premium options and you know what they're refusing to recognize that obamacare is just romney care at a federal level i mean what the hell right and then well though they did call obamacare anti-american and the right going on the right wing did and that is actually true because watchin

during the military tribunals for the alleged nine eleven conspirators when they were talking about waterboarding and an attempt to get execution off of the table have you ever had experiences like that where you were prevented from discussing something that would have potentially helped your client's case out. well sure i mean the. the rules and regulations that are governing the military commissions are incredibly confining for defense counsel they're subject to very strict protective orders that require them to keep classified information classified. and it means that they cannot share their classified information with people that actually may be able to help their clients so for example the lawyers representing the men accused in the men now called the nine eleven five they are seeking to disclose facts of their clients torture to various international tribunals that they're seeking to look at the charges the allegations of torture and they're unable to do that right i mean there is there is no doubt the u.s. government engaged in torture it's a it's it's publicly known at this point and thes

waterboarding and the other so-called enhanced interrogation techniques widely considered to be torture are no longer used by the cia or anyone in the u.s. it's now a question of time. playing mind games, trying to figure out what will get him to talk. >> brian ross with us here tonight. brian, thank you. our coverage of the terror raids for this evening. much more, first thing in the morning on "good morning america." >>> we turn now, though, to that dropping headline out of texas tonight, the frightening race car crash in houston. a famous driver caught in the middle of the crash, breaking his spine. and several fans among the injured. here's abc's gio benitez. >> reporter: it was the final lap of the race, the grand prix of houston, when dario franchitti's car went airborne, slamming into the catch fence. the debris sent flying into the crowd. >> oh, [ bleep ]! >> reporter: this photo shows a piece of that fence in the stands. the three-car crash injured 13 people. houston firefighters rushing to treat most of them right on the scene. but three others had to be hospitalized. franchit

you believe that we have war criminals actually joking about the fact that they got away with waterboarding jokes are written by the victors and that's how we're exonerated is very funny it's exactly like those three jokes written by the victors you know it was it was a riff if it was like dick cheney was quoting that joke by jay leno then it is this circle of hell that i never thought i'd see that is so scary to see the. those all come together it was just to see asher of awfulness. getting of let's talk about this ridiculous sham of the government shutdown in the partisan hackery surrounding this obamacare debate how is it that a we have a congress that is refusing to take a pay cut of course there are they're popular in less than cornell skippy's they have incredible health care plans and choose from themselves they have three premium options and you know what they're refusing to recognize that obamacare is just romney care at a federal level and what the hell right as. well though they did call obamacare anti-american and the writing on the right wing did and that is actually true becau

we didn't need waterboarding. we didn't need guantÁnamo bay.ollaboration and smart policing work to keep america safe. >> host: how are you able to get access to these records? >> guest: adam goldman, my co-author and i reported for "the associated press." for about 18 months through 2011 to early 2013, we were reporting on the n.y.p.d. for "the associated press" and through our report on that dozens of people in the n.y.p.d. who are willing to share their stories with us and provide us with documents that really spelled out a great deal how this intelligence division has grown in size and ronin intrusiveness and almost intimacy in terms of what they are going to collect on american citizens in secret with no review. so we had help from a lot of people in law enforcement. adam and i covert counterterrorism and national security for the ap comest a lot of people who helped crack the zazi case for people who we knew professionally because they covered the zazi case in real-time. >> host: first call for matt apuzzo comes from colchester, vermont.

to get information: waterboarding, hitting, bouncing suspects off walls, confining them in small spacessleep deprivation, nudity, keeping suspects in physical stress positions. if these were americans being held overseas by a foreign power, would we have called that torture? >> morell: i actually, john, want to challenge you on the word "torture." my officers carried out the guidance that was provided to them in both administrations, and obviously that was differing guidance. what's my view? my view was that those coercive techniques were the wrong thing to do. my view was that those techniques were inconsistent with american values. and for that reason i don't think they should have been done. >> miller: no top c.i.a. official has ever said that before. in morell's 33 years in the c.i.a., perhaps the boldest change in how the agency achieved results came literally out of the blue: armed drones in the skies over afghanistan, pakistan, somalia and yemen became the go-to weapon to kill al-qaeda terrorist. but the u.n. and others have said they have also caused hundreds of civilian fatalit

they were sent to shadow prisons, tortured and waterboarded and maybe they ended up in guantanamo bay. now it's still strange to have u.s. special forces operating in a foreign country grabbing somebody and sending them to a ship. at least we know where he was taken, how he was taken, that he's on a ship. he's going to be sent to a trial in the united states. so things have changed. but the practice of renditions continues. >> libya protesting it. it really does tell you also this guy was living in plain sight. this reminds you of osama bin laden living right in plain sight, sort of, in pakistan. the fact is that libya for all we put into that battle is bordering on being a failed state. speaking of failed states here on the anniversary of black hawk down we tried an operation in somalia, richard, and that one was a failure. we had to back off apparently. >> we did have to back off. he was living pretty much in plain sight in libya, tripoli, for the past two years. u.s. forces had known he was there and finally decided to act. the timing is somewhat unclear why the decision was taken

his embrace of torture and making jokes about waterboarding a couple weeks ago. >> when you go to the it was described as a torture device. >> no one ever in the history of mankind thought that water borgd wasn't torture until this man came along. this man has the ability to look at black and say it's white. >> you can forgive him for making mistakes but not saying you can forgive this mistake. what are you saying? >> it's not my position to forgive anybody. but let me do say that i think violating the core -- >> you have an opinion about this. >> i do. i think it's one of the most awful acts by an executive of this country in the history of the united states. it's not forgivable by history. it will be his legacy, the man who brought torture to america and was proud of it. >> did -- >> as well as bankrupting the country in two disastrous wars and refusing ever to admit error. >> when did you change your mind about him? >> i changed my mind through the events of that war. i put out an ebook called "i was wrong." i never believed -- i said no american -- this story is from guantanamo ar

one of the defendants was reportedly subjected to waterboarding some 183 times. >>> the u.s. city of detroit has filed for the largest municipal bankruptcy in united states history, but in an irony of sorts, even declaring itself broke could cost the city hundreds of millions of dollars. al jazeera's john hendron reports. >> reporter: for the motor city first came the debt, and then came the bankruptcy, and then the bankruptcy bill. it's soaring like detroit's historic skyline. >> there's definitely a lot going. >> reporter: the city council deweyfully continues meeting. since the state of michigan took over the finances, it's a state-appointed emergency manager kevin orr who calls the shots. he's handed contracts to lawyers and bankruptcy experts worth more than $62 million and counting. only his office knows the real total. >> my question is, has it even exceeded $62 million? i don't have that answer. i should have that answer as an elected official. >> reporter: for this working class auto town facing the largest city bankruptcy in u.s. history, one thing's for sure. the p

. >> clearly so proud of what he did with waterboarding in particular, which we now know did not leadthe capture of bin laden. but they keep acting as it did bin laden. >> i call it bin laden -- >> wow. >> either way, it's okay. >> pronunciation, how good is your arabic. >> pretty tight. chinese is pretty good. >> i know we'll talk about this later, ted cruz by nearly 800 people this weekend. obviously dick cheney doll sistering their movement -- >> you earlier said something about mexico and it's actually pronounced mexico. let's wrap this up for now. we can do the rest of the fact checking later. we'll get back to that. up next -- an early look at a major new report on drones. this one focused on the human toll. there is much more cycle still ahead, for better or worse. thrusters at 30%! i can't get her to warp. losing thrusters. i need more power. give me more power! [ mainframe ] located. ge deep-sea fuel technology. a 50,000-pound, ingeniously wired machine that optimizes raw data to help safely discover and maximize resources in extreme conditions. our current situation seems ra

you know something, bill, god forbid that we waterboard khalid sheikh mohammed and get hard data outam in a sauna and get the real story. three quarters of the emails that they break from france are letters to guy's mistresses telling them to bear with them they are about to leave their wife soon and they shouldn't jump off right new. >> i thought it had something to do with french food. great all over the world. i don't know. >> let's break the code god for bid we go after al qaeda. >> maybe you know to be serious though, there are a lot of muslims. 10% of the hop legs french. france is muslim now. so, -- >> -- why would you want to spy on muslims? there is no problem there. >> no you don't see any? >> the world has gone nuts. >> well the nsa spying on 80,000 french people and john kerry looked like he had control of the situation there. >> always good when the secretary of state has a longer face than the actual flag behind it. >> around schwarzenegger tweeted today that he doesn't have any intention of running for president. doesn't want the law changed which had been reported in

can't even talk to somebody, you can't whisper somebody, and they take you to the bathroom and waterboardng. the second, the two words are mitt romney. you can be recorded at any time. it doesn't matter. you think you have your privacy, particularly on a train with 100 people. what are you doing? yeah, you might want to remember the 47% rule the next time you're that annoyi ining guy in train. >> you would think the former head of the nsa would be more hip, too, on secure cell phone conversations, let alone interviews. >> yeah, you would think so. that's what's confusing. i guess michael is on the older side and maybe not -- would you assume someone would be live tweeting your conversation on the train? probably not. >> maybe you should. >> maybe you should, yeah. >> if he doesn't appreciate the internet is not a series of tubes at this point, we all have bigger troubles. jamel, i want to move on to another twitter story, the twitter block. the "atlanta journal-constitution" tweeted out after a georgia man won $1 million lottery, this. $1 million georgia lottery winner willie lynch can ge

nobody had been waterboarded since 2003, gone on surveillance, military tribunalses closed cia black site prisons and so on so the next president in this case, barack obama, wouldn't have to necessarily make a radical 180 degree turn. when obama took over, you walk in the office, things already moderated, compromised. you sit there every day and get somebody walking in, an intelligence person telling you here are the ways people are trying to kill you or americans today. do you really want to change these policies so drastically given that possible threat out there? >> that's sort of it. frank, we've talked about this. national security has really become the third rail of american politics. you can talk about social security, medicare, medicaid to some degree without the blow back but talk about cutting back funds for terrorism or extraordinary web of surveillance we have, it is almost anathema in the political discourse to do that. >> i think part of the problem, what ezra described, he faced -- he hasn't just faced this state. he's faced this complete expose of the state at the sam

waterboarding, hitting, bouncing them off walls, loud music, sleep deprivation, nudity, keeping suspects in physical stretched positions. if these were machineries held overseas by a foreign power, would we have called that torture. >> i actually, john, want to challenge you on the word torture. my officers cared out the guidance that was provided to them in both administrations and obviously that was different guidance. what's my view? my view was that those coercive techniques were the wrong thing to do. my view was that those techniques were inconsistent with american values, and for that reason i don't think they should have been done. >> now, morrell is the first senior cia official ever to say that enhanced interrogation was wrong. >>> americans trying to sign up for obama care are dealing with more high-tech headaches. they're blaming verizon center for shutting down health care.com on sunday. jan crawford is in washington. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. good morning, nor real estate. it's been nearly five weeks. they say it's fixable but that's going to take weeks, not d

waterboarding, hitting, bouncing them off walls, loud music, sleep deprivation, nudity, keeping suspects in physical stretched positions. if these were machineries held overseas by a foreign power, would we have called that torture. >> i actually, john, want to challenge you on the word torture. my officers cared out the guidance that was provided to them in both administrations and obviously that was different guidance. what's my view? my view was that those coercive techniques were the wrong thing to do. my view was that those techniques were inconsistent with american values, and for that reason i don't think they should have been done. >> now, morrell is the first senior cia official ever to say that enhanced interrogation was wrong. >>> americans trying to sign up for obama care are dealing with more high-tech headaches. they're blaming verizon center for shutting down health care.com on sunday. jan crawford is in washington. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. good morning, nor real estate. it's been nearly five weeks. they say it's fixable but that's going to take weeks, not d