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and wes moore, thank you so much for your service. thank you for coming on tonight. >>> when we return, the troubling shift to the right in today's republican party. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. 3q double shift... i need a break. he needs some gellin'. yeahhhhhhh. gellin' is like having a teeny tiny foot masseuse in your shoe. you like ? nice ! dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles. outrageous comfort, all-day long. >> let me finish tonight with this dramatic shift in republican politics. three years ago, the party ran john mccain for president. next year, it looks like they may well run one of three candidates, michele bachmann, antii miettinen, or rick perry. i listened to rick perry and i wonder what we're talking about and where we are going as a country. he refuses to accept the role for example that fossil fuels play in climate change. he wants to ditch the voting rights act. he questions the constitutional basis of civil rights act. he speaks of secession. his defenders say it's a harmless rhetorical device. he promise

. >> congresswoman, we have wes moore with us with a question. >> good morning. >> wes, good morning. is the bus tour. he spent time in minnesota. they have 6.7% unemployment. iowa 6.7% unemployment, michigan 10.9% unemployment. the rate in detroit is almost 15%. he didn't get to michigan. >> of course that caught our attention. as you know, we are holding these job fairs all over the country. you are right, we have been in cleveland, wie were in detroit, going to miami and los angeles. the lines are long. thousands of african-americans, in particular and others are coming out to get connected with a job. we have encouraged the businesses of america, the corporations to join with us and try and connection people with opportunity. the black caucus decided to get out of washington. enough with the rhetoric. while we do our policy work, we do the job fairs. the tour you are talking about, take a look at this headline in the wall street journal. obama aims to keep white voters on board. we want to be on board, too. you are right. you talked about the lower unemployment rate in the states

and also one of the veterans featured in the story, retired army captain and best-selling author, wes mooree to you both. so nice to read this article because so often what we hear about veterans returning from these wars is inability to find a job, some of the struggles to readjust even in the worst cases, suicide. you have found stories that show how remarkable our veterans are. >> all the bad stuff is true, but you know, over the times when i imbedded over the last four or five years in iraq and afghanistan, i saw these kids doing remarkable things. this is a very new kind of soldier and very new kind of warfare. they actually had to provide governance in towns in iraq and afghanistan. obviously they provide security but they are also doing a lot of the public works and economic development programs. they use their funds, they deal with the local elders and the political skills and diplomatic skills and can-do skills that they developed over there, they are beginning to use back here. >> we will get to you, wes, in a minute. i will let joe brag on you a little for a moment. tell us what

wes moore. >> i learned today the month of july we lost 32 servicemen to suicide.e wars. >> a huge problem not talk about enough. >> that's right. pat? >> rick perry's looking for mitt, give him my love, mike. >> blow him a kiss. >> nicolle wallace? >> that rob gibbs is in desperate need of new attack lines. >> how great was that? nicolle going at it. like the summer of '08. mark? >> two quick things, mike barnicle can pay his electric bill on his phone. >> a little late to the game but can you do it. boom. >> as we were learning the euro zone was failing apart, mike is -- paying his bills. >> the internet. >> what can we tell you? at least pretend that you care. i learned from nicolle wallace, her words, not mine, rick perry looks good in a pair of jeans. that's all i know. thanks everybody. see you back here tomorrow. stick around right now for "the daily rundown" with chuck todd live today in iowa. >>> rick perry unplugged. the newest 2012 candidate

joining me to talk about this, the ja joe klein and wes moore. welcome to you both. for a firsthand, a subject of this piece. you are part of this story. tell us, if you can, what is it that your generation, coming back from the front, in terms of the duties you've had over there, in terms ever trying to bring a country together politically, how that trains you to help back here at home? >> i was honored to be one of the people asked to represent this group of 23 million iraq-afghanistan vets coming back with extraordinary skills. entrepreneurial, fearless, able to look at worst-case scenarios before they look at best case scenarios. the fact as we're looking at the transics back home, there's not a scenario these non-commissioned and officerless seib see back home that will intimidate them or make them flinch. x-ray extraordinarily brave and courageous people now serving as they come back home. >> how is this warfront, both iraq and afghanistan, different in terms of training people for careers back home? >> chris, you know, i've been going over there for the last fi

army captain and combat veteran wes moore.being with us. >> my pleasure. >> we've been talking about this today. both fronts egypt and syria. this extraordinary display on state television. people stunned in egypt. obviously the ejet stream wants to show the former leader being humiliated this way and being held accountable for his alleged crimes? >> absolutely. this really is stunning to see the cage and to see hosni mubarak in a bed literally inside the cage going through his trial process is just remarkable. i think the egyptians feel it's an important moment to show the rest of the world, but primarily to show egyptians that justice is going to be served and quite honestly particularly for the fact that so much of this trial has been stalled with hoel issues they want to show this process is happening and show the egyptian people that the justice that they seek is actually coming to fruition. >> as the process of trying to create some kind of democracy has evolved we've seen that the military, you understand the military s

>> i doubt it. >> just wes moore, i guess. >> we're going to start with the economy here. n track for the worst month in nearly three years after fears of another global recession, we dare use the word, combined with weakness in europe. the dow down almost 420 points losing 3.6% of the value yesterday. the s&p losing 4.4% of its value. nasdaq was down more than 5%. let's bring in guy johnson, he's live in london. good morning. how are the markets looking over there? >> more of the same, unfortunately. looks like we are going to have another bad day. it's carried on today. a lot of people expected today to be positive. a bounce off of a big, bad day. it's not come through. you have gold trading higher. we are up by 3% there. a lot of the european markets down by 3%. the banks are getting hit hard once again. industrial stocks are under pressure as well. fears of the global slowdown impacting the economies like germany. it was happening yesterday, carrying on in europe. when wall street opens, it looks like we are going to get a negative open. things could change between now

we tried to -- we tried to move the buildings closer. commissioner moore: it looks like roosevelt to me. is completely suburban. it is taking a city street and making it like a suburban driveway. is something i have a problem with. is there any way we could study and help the developer move those, to give them at a lower height, which i am strongly opposed to? >> that was my concern as well, that they be more in keeping with the character of that st.. we can certainly replace them -- commissioner moore: the second problem is they come massively 15-feet higher. taller signs on transparent legs so you can see the buildings beyond. so i would suggest the department pursue the lower sign category and find a way to help the developer sum up something. >> if i may, i think we share the same concern. we do not want people driving around the block the three times. clearly, the signs are needed. it is just a question of how tall they need to be to be visible and where they are placed. commissioner moore: 1 in coming into the driveway and see the signs, visible or n

army wes moore. good to have you back as well. drea, earlier on the show of hosni mubarak in court in sort of a jail cell in court on a gurney. and first of all, just bring us up to date on what's happening with that. we had a little bit of a debate earlier which we may revise. >> reporter: the fact is this is obviously a political trial. the idea is to show him you had my lie at itted to a show a transition. we frankly have here in the u.s. with all of our focus on the debt crisis and everything else have really not end as actively engaged and certainly the american public has not in what's happening in egypt. you mentioned syria. we can talk about somalia and what's happening in libya as well. foreign policy will take a huge hit in these budget cuts. if the trigger kicks in then the foreign policy, national security and defense are completely whacked. so that's one of the big deals out there. we got a new ambassador, ann patterson that justified arrived in cairo a week or so ago. she's the most senior and decorated of our diploma

>> joining us now, best selling author and combat veteran, wes moore. e onafgh globe." afghanistan in the future that we could exit gracefully with our heads held high, even if we were holding our noses. we leave afghanistan to the afghans and wash our hands of the effort that alluded us and our allies for so long. no american would want to deprive our troops of a happily ever after event. whether we leave this year, next year or 2014, we won't be able to control what happens afterwards more than we can control the grenades that bring down chinook helicopters. the loss of the s.e.a.l.s is a tragedy. so many americans have no clue. it's not becoming a campaign issue. >> this is a huge, not just personal tragedy, this is a huge personnel tragedy as well. you know, when you look at s.e.a.l. team 6 or the delta force, they are nameless soldiers until tragedy happens. we have approximately 300 s.e.a.l. team 6 members. to lose 20 in one day, it's 70%. it's going to have significant implications. are they mostly developed in afghanistan? >> we have about 10,000

we're joined by wes moore. wes, great to see you. let's talk about syria and what we now know the. the u.n. is taking up its condemnation of syria from last week. they're having a meeting this afternoon in advance of that the u.s. ambassador to the united nations susan rice spoke out again today. here's what she had to say. >> in the view of the united states he has lost his legitimacy to rule. and syria would be a better place without him. >> that is the same thing that jay carney has just said at the briefing but it is not that further step saying the united states, the president of the united states believes that assad should be removed. they are not taking that step yet. they may in the next couple of days. they've been reluctant to take that step, why? >> they've been reluctant to take the step because i think they understand the limitations of unilateral action for the united states. even as we increase looking at different sachs options that we have that we can put towards syria. the main criteria that we're looking for. the m

. >> let me ask wes moore. why's the united states fighting the taliban in afghanistan? e we, the anti-taliban force in that country? how did we get this job? >> well, we got this job because we've seen ow the mission continue topped evolve with afghanistan. initially when we first had trooped in afghanistan we didn't have a real commitment. the message was exactly right. the president in many ways not only doubled but tripled down on the afghanistan operation. weren't of the largest challenges we had with the afghanistan operation one of the lead variables whether or not we had proceed successfully with this it relies on some type of afghanistan reconciliation with the government, which is difficult. just a few days ago you had the afghan high peace council who came out and said the taliban is willing to negotiate and willing to be part of this larger negotiation, come to the peace table, and then just yesterday a spokesperson for mullah omar says not so fast. not willing to negotiate with anybody. >> they're cutting people's heads often if they show any sign of working

president olague: we have a conversation about that here. commissioner moore: we might want to discuss that a little bit further. secretary avery: commissioners, i have a feeling that i am probably the only one who is here with the discussion of the creation of complicated cases standards, etc., and the commission had a discussion on what constituted the complicated case. they did not ever put that in their rules and basically it was on the size of the document that came through and the size of the project that was being proposed. and again, it was never ep caps lated in the -- it was never encapsulated in the rules and regulations and you don't have a definition. and if no one was here, it would be hearsay if i came up with the paper from the hearings and it is hearsay from me on what they believe their definition of complicated cases were. so i think it would be timely for you to have that discussion. president olague: great. perfect. we'll calendar it. >> but we're going to go ahead and adopt these. commissioner miguel: i would move we adopt with the change

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but we can certainly consider the issue and discuss that with the supervisor as well. commissioner moore: i appreciate that. commissioner antonini: i would like to get an update on the suggested dialogue by supervisors winner and chu in regards to moderate income housing in connection with jobs. we can get a report on how that goes forward, and anything that might take the form of any legislative changes would come before us. >> absolutely. we will definitely let you know how those hearings progress. thank you. >> the board of appeals did meet last night. they heard one item, which i think would be of interest to the commission. that is the appeal of the certificate of appropriateness lists. this is the first one from the historic preservation commission. they initially heard it in march and requested the project sponsor continue discussing alternatives with the department. they met with the project sponsor. they came up with an alternate solution and give that to the project sponsor. they rejected it outright. they said they would not make any changes to their proposal. they said that t

. >> we could go down moor. >> it could go down more. >> a year from now, do you think we will? >> the time frame is 6 months to 24 months and the devination is one-three probability. >> what is the chance we regain triple a? >> there is five governments that regained triple a. your colleague mentioned a few of them. they regained over the nine-18 years. >> don chambers head of the sovereign committee over the s&p that made a momentous decision. thank you very much. wh

we are mechanically ventilating and filtering the air. by the freeway, all those units have mechanically ventilated air. >> commissioner moore: they are responding to it. thank you. we have difficult -- a difficult double motion. we have an appeal on ceqa. >> it is not an appeal. it is the adoption of the ceqa. >they were called up together. >> commissioner moore: i would make a motion for part and and . >> second. >> if i could respond to the comments about the transit and the heights exceptions. there is a 20% exception. there is a -- about the transit on 16th street. it is envisioned as a brt so that should address the transit concerns. the 22, you cannot get the 20 to two blocks away. it sure what. >> president olague: commissioner sugaya? >> commissioner sugaya: just to follow up on that. for any purpose? >> basically for any purses than -- purpose that is listed in the code for mechanical equipment, skylights, whenever an exception. 20% total. -- what ever it exception. 20% total. -- whenever exceptiatever excep. >> commissioner sugaya: it calls for various unit mixes -- i think that is the perspective i am coming from. i realize the and l

we have complied. i guess that would extend this to the 15th. >> commissioner moore: if this is what they are describing, i would not see any reason to extend this period we are all leaving on the 11th, and any staff members after us, -- >> i do not understand. >> commissioners, if that is all, we can move to public comment. members of the public -- this is within the subject matter and the jurisdiction of the commission. and i have no speaker cards. >> i went through the files of next week's hearing, and i was not certain about the rules. i want to read the current rules. this is due to the commission two weeks in advance of the hearing. i keep bringing this up. we have 120 unit projects, and this is not a complicated case because this is what you should have considered on the triangle. if you look at these rules, you are allowed one week. on a d.r. and a c.u. this is not a c.u. this is a major project if you have one here. like the project today, the others that have been cont roversial. the staff rdisregards this. everything is two weeks in the rules. and i ask the planning director to start enforcin

can't be home huge bill for because he's not only a room a clean bit a plate of food so michael moore we feel sold a prius so guilty soul or somebody came to us and say. cuore. get one of you for your for we can help you. get out. get out cause the cops no matter what he tells you you can find safety you can find safety you can and you will find safety a world say anything he wants to anything. to keep you under his thumb to keep you right where he wants you. so he can keep abusing here and it's only going to get worse so when you are going to get worse if got to make that step take that step of faith have faith in yourself you may not believe it's a mess but it's there it's there you'll find it and you'll find. a safety plan is the mechanism that is used to help an individual stay safe in their home their working environment to help them stay safe when they are traveling or with their children. it is pretty comprehensive and it involves evaluating where the high risk points are a lot of people don't consider. which rooms have ways that they could exit if they needed to which planes have

moore. >> on may 5, 1993, the three boys went to school, came home, and went out to play. stevie branch's mother pam hobbs remembers it like it was yesterday. >> we wasn't home probably five or ten minutes when michael moore probably came over and asked if stevie could go ride bikes with him. and i was telling him, not today, son. i'm getting ready for work. and i'm cooking and all that. and he and michael just kept begging and begging. please let me go. let me go. so like a lot of parents do, i gave in and i said, okay. >> do you remember the last thing stevie said to you? >> i love you, mama. and went off just as happy as he could be. >> steve branch, christopher byers and michael moore were all last seen right here on this street. and they were doing what 8-year-old boys would normally do, they were playing, having fun, and riding their bikes back in that direction toward where the woods used to be. but that was the last time they were seen alive. and no one is sure what happened next. they never came home. families and neighbors searched frantically through the night as pam hobbs feared the worst. >> you had to be just beside yourself. >> oh,

joining us now, combat veteran, wes moore. >> good to see ya. >> great to see you, too. >> pat buchanand you had to evacuate this weekend. tell us about it. >> i went to mccabes and said i'm getting out early and i'm going to pray for y'all. they declared an emergency that afternoon and i was home. >> you were home. did the area get hammered down there? >> it got hit but joe, i will say this, this was not the killer hurricane andrew down in florida and katrina. it shouldn't be minimized, preparations were maybe excessive, but they were ready in case they had a killer turn. here in d.c., guys were looking at the water while guys were coming out of hurricane parties looking at reporters. >> you can't prepare for this. >> you can't. >> i was afraid we would have category 3, category 4 and category 5 storms on the gulf coast. that's one thing. i tell you what, i was afraid a category 2 would slam into the city, in new york, go across long island. that would have been catastrophic. there aren't millions of windows along the gulf coast. john heilemann, it could have been really bad. i think,

we got. in the 10th district, republican incumbent sheila harsdorf, shelly moore. don't have results to report there, but we'll keep you posted. generally the way these things happen is you get 1% and 2%, and they start coming in in larger increments, but we'll be watching over the course of the night. >>> in 2008, the presidential election in wisconsin was not at all close. president obama beat john mccain by 13 points. that was a bigger margin than obama got in nevada, minnesota, new hampshire, almost the margin by which he won the great state of new jersey. even though wisconsin looks a little purple, frankly in 2008, wisconsin was deep blue. it was a blow out in the '08 presidential race in wisconsin of the still though on that night in that same election in which barack obama made john mccain irrelevant, on that same night, these six republican state senators also won their races, republicans. it's because they represent republican districts, at least five of the six do. state senate races, of course, are local races and even when a whole state leans blue, spe