our various casper sac is one of the few jig fishermen west and cody technician is one of the older, especially if not the oldest vision in the world. that is essence. it's a line flowing out in the water with a couple of, of some very selective. you get over a school and if it's not the right fish, then you can quickly move you know, a lot of is just timing the tides. right. and, and the winds see the fish in there were underneath the score rates it up a little bit. the of the printer, dusty rock this, the over 95 percent the rockfish coming out of alaska is all troll gone. that means it's called a large snaps with what they call rock hopper here. that drags on the bottom with these big tires that roll over rocks and knives tearing down pinnacles, tearing out for catching a lot of rockfish at once for as well as other spaces trying when it's done in its worst form, has a leveling effect. and it has a tendency to really just sort of strip away everything that's there, the carls and find it, but also all the fish that are living in that particular area. generally speaking, a smaller s