of gadhafi attempts to cling to power is battling to shore up control of the capital tripoli and western areas of demonstrators consolidating gains in the eastern part of the country it's all amid speculation that one of gadhafi is only son has now joined the opposition international momentum is building for action to punish the libyan leader for the violent response to people's calls to change the e.u. is considering sanctions such as travel restrictions and the freezing of the his assets the u.k. and france are pushing for an arms embargo and a war crimes investigation libya's food supply chain is at risk the collapse is according to the united nations libya following revenue. scenary path of middle eastern countries such as a former ambassador to the country says that a western style democracy just won't work in the arab world. the only question now is whether the arab countries are ready for democracy one must bear in mind it's not the west it's the east where clinicians tribal traditions are very strong after the democratic election in algeria national islamic front almost came to p

gave him one and a half billion dollars a year for his armed forces alone and it was western support that catchment. in power betraying an inherent misunderstanding of the way in society operates according to chatham house doing regimes like mubarak survive. is by making themselves useful. to the west so they have to convince the world that. if they leave it will be muslim brotherhood. in egypt. it's the worst case scenario so the. minute you can see beyond. the fall of all of which suggests that western countries should stand back and let the egyptian people exercise their sovereignty the president of the united states would call us to move immediately and instantly to make changes as if we are the fifty first state of the united states we are not trying to play a role in egypt's future is a dangerous game for western leaders hosni mubarak enjoyed strong support from america and co for many years but now at the first sign of trouble their support is conspicuous in its absence this sends a message to friends and foes alike in the region when the going gets tough they don't count on u

the people decide their own future message sent by prime minister vladimir putin as he addressed western meddling in international affairs at the meeting in brussels. and italy birds a cell for a massive flow of migrants calls on the e.u. to rescue it from a humanitarian crisis which could see more than a million people flooding the country in the troubled arab world. here with us here live from moscow where it's not just after six pm but a court in london has ruled in favor of julius saunders extradition the way he was found or is wanted for questioning in connection with sexual assault allegations during a trip he made to sweden last summer lawyers fear he won't receive a fair trial in sweden and risks being handed over to america on espionage charges the u.s. is currently investigating his website which released a swathe of secret diplomatic wire as washington wants him held responsible for leaking classified information. and it has the latest from the hearing in london. tenshi what we saw this morning was the judge knocking down these defense all cubans out of the water essentially o

there were between two to three million who participated but all of none of these are shown in the western media and obviously this is not going to change the venue in chicago how do you reflect upon verse from randy's words because there are there is a disconnect in how. things are being reported we hear from the professor on the ground in saying that is there is a lot more stability than what we're told in western mainstream media how do you react to that. well i think it's quite obvious that you know the current establishment in iran is. solidly in place because of repression but on the other hand it's also true that there's been since at least a year and a half ago a huge wave of discontent and distrust in the in the way that things are being run i mean it would be lying to ourselves not to accept that at least a very significant portion of the iranian public is very this content with the way that things are and the fact that they have been silenced is because of repression not just because the current establishment in power is completely solid and has mass support it does have my supp

well you know here elance western neocon colonialism i mean my goodness the u.s. foreign policy and british before that in the in the arab world i mean it was more than meddling and a lot of and if you can look at overthrowing a legitimate government in iran in the one nine hundred fifty s. i mean how can you say such things. exactly exactly how they said it was the including israel and you know why israel as a country that only became independent in one nine hundred forty eight and was under british colonial rule and was in exile as a people until the mid nineteenth century managed to come up very well democratically i would even say a little bit too democratic with its pluralistic system and the proportional representation but how is it possible that israel in the middle east is the only country that really has maintained democratic model to the extent that many of our local arabs are learning much more about democracy from us than they are from their fellow arab states why do they have to learn from anyone why can't they just do it on their own ramzi do you wan

it must be peaceful and it must begin now perhaps then western policy should have pressed far harder upon existing regimes such as mubarak's that restricted political freedoms damaged economic progress instead the us gave him one and a half billion dollars a year for his armed forces alone and it was largely western support the cabinet back in power the fact that the egyptian people a well aware of they supported getting regime for such a long time but they are they do feel regime where now they are talking about democracy and respect the freedom and right to protest the struggle against the autocratic regime so the fighting against empty promises and weak concessionary comments and not just from the barack. european and world leaders has a proud record in terms of sticking up for democracy and human rights sufficiently . in the past with the facts departure the egyptian people will now be looking for a real political commitment to change both internally and internationally. terrorist square has been the recent at the center of egypt's democratic hopes the stage for the people's revo

have is that they usually listen to a sort of pro western elite that's what they surround themselves with and they misread iran and that's the same problem that i think they have throughout the arab world they thought egypt who stay. well because they were listening to people who studied in the west who spoke english to who surrounded them what spoke to them and they thought that the egyptian political establishment is stable and they miscalculated there as well professor marandi i can sympathize with you as it happens to people talking about russia and i go to david you're a country risk expert what's the risks facing down as we talk about massive changes going on in the arab world obviously you know on this not in the arab world but i mean it is part of the greater middle east as far as the religious component is being played out here what is the risk i mean i think part of the large part of the problem is that no one knows the extent of the opposition because most of the law to go off this leaders will force on the ground after the office of the demonstrations in june two thousand

i hope so but it certainly was the prevailing discourse that justified a western and largely western backing and support of the dictators throughout the middle east based on the fact that they are preserving u.s. interests in the us and western interests and because of this issue of extremism and terrorism although the popular movements that we are seeing at work here with are into nature and egypt and again hopefully in the rest of of the middle east and the arab world they are very much homegrown democratic popular populist movements that in no way a threat. to the west and this course the west decides to lock horns with these movements but in actuality they are not and i think it's time that we abandon this discourse altogether and embrace what people throughout the middle east want to impress and that is genuine democracy israel if i can go to you in jerusalem. obviously israel is going to look at its national security interest and fair enough every country wants to do that but do you think that it's really misplaced it looks like you know as we go through these days here the u.s

and i think the western world isn't ready for that. absolutely and that's why we've seen various western leaders prompting the egyptian you know telling them what's good for them historically we know that the whole point of uprising is or revolutions or massive demonstrations on that scale is to get rid of the extremist elements and for now the most extreme element in egyptian society is mubarak and that's why the egyptian people are trying to get rid of him and i trust societies to become more moderate once you get rid of you know. deaths pot basically and that's their main preoccupation getting rid of eighty two year old despot who's been ruling the country with an iron fist for thirty years and has done nothing to genuinely implement social economic and indeed political reforms and we should trust the people to decide for themselves there are many people out there who are ready to play a part in the future of the country there are many shades of people and i don't think we should be scared of seeing any of them taking part trophy wh

journalists and western experts you know he would be right but of course it was the egyptian regime itself that like mr marandi were repeating repeatedly claiming that they were stable that they had massive popular support that their economic policies their social policies were favored by the population and supported by the population when it came down to it it turned out that no actually this was not the fact and that plenty of the population were completed this content with egypt and the way things. like you have you finished your answer when we come back from our break after a short break we'll continue our discussion on what many people call the middle east domino effect state. wealthy british style sign says it's not time to break the ties. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy in the cause a report on. to be soon which brightened if you knew about sums from funds to impressions. these funds totty don't come. up. if you. want to. welcome back to cross talk on people about to remind you we're discussing revolutionary prospects for iran. to take.

minute you can see beyond never the fall of all of which suggests that western countries should stand back and let the egyptian people exercise their sovereignty the president of the united states would call to move immediately and. to make changes as if we are the fifty third state of the united states we are not trying to play a role in egypt's future is a dangerous game for western leaders hosni mubarak enjoyed strong support from america and co for many years but now at the first sign of trouble this approach is conspicuous in its absence it sends a message to friends and foes alike in the region when the going gets tough don't count on us a message that's likely to further destabilize an already deeply unstable possibly was a majority. leading opposition activist mohamed el baradei has warned that demonstrations could become even more vicious if president mubarak refuses to step down but some else say egyptians should also hold off on pinning their hopes on a pro western barty. mama el baradei eyes a belated attempt at getting in on this opposition movement well it may be too lat

powers western european powers condemning the violence does it seem that western powers are now aligning themselves with the protesters and suggesting that a puppet democracy could be implemented in that country. people who have very much do understand the situation as if the west is coming on board with a strong message that it supports the people of egypt and once them to decide their own future that that might be the message that the west is thinking that's pushing across but it's not the message that's being interpreted by people who have an egypt if we look at the shift in position particularly of the united states egyptians did feel that mubarak was very much and merry can. not of course of an american agent but there certainly felt that he was someone who pushed the american agenda exactly how that all baradei who are coming forward as representing this opposition bloc he has put himself up as a candidate to head an interim government figures that are not supported by the average people because essentially they believe that these are people who come from the same cloth that we sup

find uploaded in a plot to bring from foreign intervention he condemns the use of force while urging western countries to be more consistent one day i advocate democracy. basically if he is more than a million refugees fleeing the chaos in north africa could descend on its shores uncooled fellow e.u. nations for systems many fear criminals and terrorists the belmont it's one of them is already in the country. air and space shuttle discovery blasts old from cape canaveral in the u.s. on its final mission after almost three decades of little travel that leads the russian soyuz spacecraft as the only manned lifeline to the international space station. and those are the headlines up next sticking with one of our main stories about asks his guest if states in the middle east can live up to democratic ideals self-determination that's a debate crosstalk stay with. well see british science. is not out to. free. markets why not scandal. find out what's really happening to the global economy cars a report on r.t. . and you can. start. to. flow in welcome to cross talk computable a part of the globe or

western nations are seeking ways to help conflict stricken north africa and the middle east but with multi-billion dollar aid deals being discussed some europeans are starting to fear that this will only harm their own economies daniel bushell is in brussels bringing us the latest on this debate and what it could mean for europe as a whole. book club and has all the elements of a perfect storm for many citizens here in the e.u. is the worst possible time to be pumping cash into uncertain regimes what with the economic tensions and the economic problems here in the e.u. at the moment not only in the soft underbelly of europe as we've been seeing in reports this hour but it's richest states as well greece is paralyzed at the moment with a nationwide strike hundreds of thousands of workers have left the job to protest as the recession there goes from bad to worse and more than one in three young people there are a unemployed at the moment interior ministers of solvent e.u. states like italy and spain are meeting to find a way to stop the desperate migrants from north africa the middle e

solid bin laden of inspiring the revolt could off he is struggling to control the capital tripoli and western areas while the protestors are consolidating gains in the east of the country. we can leaks founder julian assange has dubbed the u. london court's decision to send him to sweden to stand trial on sexual assault charges are rubber stamping process and many question why i joined his son just being extradited while many conover szell figures are allowed to remain in the u.k. . and russia launches an ambitious mission to upgrade its army over the next ten years moscow is planning to spend six hundred fifty billion dollars on the project so the headlines here in our next sticking with one of our main stories people about asks his guest if states in the middle east can live up to democratic ideals of self-determination that's an r.t.s. debate show crosstalk stay with us. well see british science. is not like free. markets finance scandals. find out what's really happening to the global economy in the kinds of reports on r.t. . and you can. start. to. flow in welcome to cross talk computabl

left to find our own democratic or from foreign intervention that condemns the use of force while western countries to be more consistent when they have a democracy. is more than a million refugees fleeing the. e.u. nations as it is to many criminals and terrorists the best moment of the old raising the country. and space shuttle discovery last song from cape canaveral in the u. was on its final mission after almost three decades of travel that lead to the russian soyuz spacecraft the only nine lifeline willing to take. those are the headlines up next sticking with one of our main stories his guests if states in the middle east can live up to democratic ideas of self-determination that's a debate stay with us. and you can. still. blow in welcome to cross talk on peter lavelle a part of the globe or democratic rhetoric is beginning to match deeds the north african revolutions are in full swing is this the end of western client ism a neo colonial rule in the early world and can the west live with others in bracing democracy. and you can. start. to discuss new directions for the middle east

western european leaders multiculturalism as a failure and a potential threat to security but immigrants demand solutions instead of criticism . plus there may be new power in egypt attention from a new high and despite the u.s. applauding the country's journey to democracy some political experts want it could be a recipe for disaster. for most years here in central moscow this is with you twenty four hours a day two cosmonauts have taken their first steps during a revolutionary experiment masterminded by russian scientists even though it's a simulated mission researches all over the world agree that the project is an important scientific breakthrough if you want to spin off reports now on the huge step for mankind. italy's india. and russia. smiley and ski v. made their first steps on the surface of mars and they installed the flags there they took the samples off the surface and measured the imaginary magnetic level all for the red planet of course this is a simulation but it is pretty real for the volunteers who are. already spent over two hundred days in isolation during the simulati

we meet every other week in the western addition to discuss that. even though it's focused on the western addition we try to work with everyone in district 5. in serving the youth we have to work with their families and how the youth during and after school hours affect the community and how we can work together to make things better for the youths and the neighborhood. >> welcome. i'm mark christianson vice president of the mersed extension triangle neighborhood. 280 to the east and south along with bright street e. we are fairly new organization. we were founded in 2000. so, we have been an association for 7 years. my background is i'm a third generation of san francisco. a teacher in the school district and cofound of met ma. we publish a news letter 4 times a year and have meetings 4 times a year. we decide today's best not to meet too often if we meet too often we will water down our base. by meeting quarterly we get 35 and 75 beam to attend a neighborhood meeting. we represent 500 to 600 homes in our area. i have news letters later on, copies

in their own a future that's the message sent by prime minister vladimir putin as he addressed a western meddling in international affairs at a meeting in brussels today. also on the e.u. agreed to coordinate efforts to me on growing political and economic crises in north africa i'll have more in a few moments. it's only braces a cell for a massive flow of migrants sun calls on the e.u. to rescue it from a humanitarian crisis which could see more than a million people flooding the country from the troubled arab world. worldwide news live from moscow to you with r.t. now a court in london has ruled in favor of julius saunders extradition the wiki leaks founder is wanted for questioning in connection with sexual assault allegations during a trip that he made to sweden last summer a soldier's lawyers fear he won't receive a fair trial in sweden and risks being handed over to america on espionage charges the u.s. is currently investigating its website which released the secret diplomatic wires washington wants him held responsible for leaking classified information that laura met has more fr

minute you can see beyond never really fall in all of which suggests that western countries should stand back and let the egyptian people exercise the sovereignty the president of the united states would call to move immediately and. to make changes as if we are the fifty first state of the united states we are not trying to play a role in egypt's future is a dangerous game for western leaders hosni mubarak enjoyed strong support from america and co for many years but now at the first sign of trouble the support is conspicuous in its absence it sends a message to friends and foes alike in the region when the going gets tough don't count on us a message that's likely to further destabilize an already deeply unstable part of the world's a majority. and still ahead on the program this hour out of side but not out of mind the people of ukraine's capital kiev demand to know what happened to their eccentric mayor who has been missing from public life for several months. and a false fear of the presence of weapons of mass destruction drew america into a war with iraq but could the same happen w

accuses osama bin laden of inspiring the rebels he is struggling to control the capital tripoli and western areas protestors are consolidating gains in eastern parts of the country. wiki leaks founder julian assange just. called the decision to send him to sweden to stand trial on sexual assault charges as quote a rubber stamping process sound she said the ruling didn't catch him by surprise and he will appeal. to russia launches a mission to upgrade its army over the next ten years planning to spend six hundred and fifty billion dollars on the project. and this time a could live well and his guests will debate whether the west will benefit from the middle east revolts to stay with us. wealthy british scientists. sometimes. markets the scandals find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines to name to cause a report on our team. can. start. slow and welcome to crossfire concrete all about a part of the globe or democratic rhetoric is beginning to match deeds the north african revolutions are in full swing is this the end o

>> i hope westerns are coming back. a lot of people think that i was part of the movie that a lot of people say put the nail in the coffin of westerns, "heaven's gate." for my money, that was a classic in its own right. maybe with the success of this, people will start to revisit the film. movie, was," clint's maybe the beginning of bringing westerns back. a great book -- find that story. that is key. [speaking spanish] tavis: everybody in this town gets turned on by a character that has complexity. everybody wants to play a multidimensional character. you got your wish this time around. it is really a complex character. >> it is. all actors want the same thing, which is a chance to create somebody that is real. i think reality is very complex. it is not one straight line. i am not interested in people that fly and have super powers. i do not see myself doing that. tavis: you like characters with multiple layers. >> this man has to face his own end. that involves re-evaluation of his life and himself, and that is comple

there is also a clear view of mt fished one of the highest points in the western caucuses. there will probably let's try to get the mountains in fraying filming is best done from the highest point on the embargo it's about nine hundred meters above sea level here dimitri is teaching a son killed how to set up for the filming. look. so you can see that the lighting is on one side of the mist covers most of the valley where. we don't want to fill only the mist we need to focus on the foreground look at the grass gleaming in the sunlight and it's light of the valley is dark. so the light strips will show this shot to the best advantage. the great in northern slope is a continuous chain of mountain ridges tops by snowy peaks millions of years ago there was a vast sea in this place the smallest part of it the black sea is now hidden behind mountain ridges they form a shield in the way of warm breezes blowing from the sea the warm air creates a sub tropical climate in the foothills of the southern slope of the greater coaxes ridge there is a moderate zone further upslope the king

orientated and western fuels you know another sense because from the point of view of the western powers these increasing turn boils as we are seeing in these various countries they know that they have a tendency to weaken the nation state certainly in egypt certainly in libya certainly in tunisia and elsewhere and in a way the global power elites the global power structure are have been looking at have been seeking and promoting the weakening of nation states for decades now so in a way if they can get rid of these strong mad men whether it be hosni mubarak in egypt or colonel gadhafi in libya and try to transition has i was saying before to a more liberal chaotic and more controllable western style democracy that didn't serve in a privilege to serve what we have to be very careful about the various readings that we make of this and also we should not avoid a key issue which is state of israel which in a way is at the center although not in the news is generally in the center of all the problems of all of turmoil in the middle east and this might be preparing the speech for other action

machine and the western. interest in this country so devalue corn on the streets of cairo and other cities is that people here want to decide their own future so this they might be this shift in terms of the american government initially supposed to know about it can now presenting itself is supporting the people on the streets but it is understood by the people on the streets that this is the same american administration and they're very careful and very nervous of allowing other united states or europe to dictate who will be basically leadership my colleague the only image in the room and it's true and this phenomenon and put together this report president obama starts today my belief that an orderly transition must be meaningful it must be peaceful and it must begin now and then faithfully one off to the other one the other governments followed suit. these democratic change has to start known it. it needs to happen now the growth of freedom and democracy in egypt and it seems the theme was contagious as th

to double in the short period and he said that there were western power. to interfere that would further damage the world economy which is of course being hurt by high oil prices we've seen the economy suffering already and so let's listen to what were they repeated had to say on the issue exactly. it was because of that which is today we say we're concerned about things happening in libya please note the following the north african cell of al-qaeda is also concerned about what's happening in libya do you think that's a coincidence i would like to go back in history a little the former leader of the iranian revolution where did he live he lived in paris and as a whole he was supported by the western community now entire western community fights against the iranian nuclear program i remember just recently our partners were very active in supporting democratic elections in the palestinian autonomy and the mass one and immediately they declared how mass a terrorist organization and started fighting against it we need to give people a chance to determine their