to access the white house? >> that's a great question. if you want to tour the white house these days, you can pay a lot of money to go on a tour or write to your congressperson, and i wrote to my congressperson, but i couldn't arrange a time that was actually convenient and reasonable because i have a job. then i realized that in some ways, it really was not all that important for me to go. i say that for two reasons, actually, three. one, my folks took me when i was little. i remember it. two, they only take you to the old ground floor, and then they take you to the state floor, and naturally, as i say to everybody, the two most interesting spaces in any house in the basement and attic, two places where they were not going to take me, and so i thought, well, i'm not going to see the thing i'm curious, and i will not get to see the shelter, i thought, well, you know, maybe i don't need to, and, finally, it's important to remember that with every first family in there, even though they tend to leave the state f

if the white house if the white house isn't as bad as you can maybe we should just rip it down. who on earth would say something like this? this man said something like that. this is congressman clarence cannon, who is chair of the house appropriations committee, and mr. gannon believed that $5.4 million, which was the price tag affixed to the renovation work, was too high. can argued harry truman in a letter quote he said the people want a new building. and if you think that's a french -- frangipane, what you think that congressman kinnick of the "washington post" editorial page to agree with them. fortunately, the commission had always favored the plaintiff and drawn up by lorenzo lindsley was the white house architect that fdr hired and truman kept on. and on august 21949 the commission voted that they're going to preserve the house. i want to explain what preserve means because preserve back then mean something very different than what we would understand it to me today. what they were able to save was only the faÇade of the house. as far as those inadequate foundation, even

any other white house. that does not mean it is perfectly transparent. it creates headaches for us. ridiculous stories on fox news and elsewhere about, the waves records show hillary clinton was only in the white house five times, whereas secretary so and so was here this many times. people like hillary clinton and most cabinet secretaries literally get waved in, they are not entered in the logs. secretary clinton and her successor were in the white house every week. it leads to challenges, because the records were not devised to be a complete picture because of the way individuals who are part of the administration enter and depart the white house, but they provide a lot more information about who visits the white house than has ever been provided before. in a variety of different ways, we provide a lot more information. which does not mean we or any white house is ever going to be able to be completely transparent. this blends with the other question. it is absolutely the case today and will always, has a

to access the white house? >> that's a great question. if you want to tour the white house these days, you can pay a lot of money to go on a tour or write to your congressperson, and i wrote to my congressperson, but i couldn't arrange a time that was actually convenient and reasonable because i have a job. then i realized that in some ways, it really was not all that important for me to go. i say that for two reasons, actually, three. one, my folks took me when i was little. i remember it. two, they only take you to the old ground floor, and then they take you to the state floor, and naturally, as i say to everybody, the two most interesting spaces in any house in the basement and attic, two places where they were not going to take me, and so i thought, well, i'm not going to see the thing i'm curious, and i will not get to see the shelter, i thought, well, you know, maybe i don't need to, and, finally, it's important to remember that with every first family in there, even though they tend to leave the state f

but white supremacy is a real lived thing. >> i want to talk about that discourse of white supremacy. it is one of the important pushbacks you give to the cultural pathology argument. what is at stake for you intellectually and politically to say what we face in terms of questions of continuing racial inequality needs to be ascribed to continuing white supremacy, and help us to understand what you mean when you say that, versus a cultural residue among african-americans. >> part of the problem is that liberals are progressives when we talk about this. we have this idea, we were racist in the past, and we are suffering after-effects. but what academics know. you can go out and look at the studies, and you can see young african-americans who are looking for low-wage jobs, have about the same chance of getting a job as a white person with a felony on their record. i mean, when we see things, this is a thing that's happening right now. a really, really small number of people on the planet earth are african-american males. and yet, 8% of the incarcerated population on the planet earth is a

any other white house. that does not mean it is perfectly transparent. it creates headaches for us. ridiculous stories on fox news and elsewhere about, the waves records show hillary clinton was only in the white house five times, whereas secretary so and so was here this many times. people like hillary clinton and most cabinet secretaries literally get waved in, they are not entered in the logs. secretary clinton and her successor were in the white house every week. it leads to challenges, because the records were not devised to be a complete picture because of the way individuals who are part of the administration enter and depart the white house, but they provide a lot more information about who visits the white house than has ever been provided before. in a variety of different ways, we provide a lot more information. which does not mean we or any white house is ever going to be able to be completely transparent. this blends with the other question. it is absolutely the case today and will always, has a

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than any other white house. that doesn't mean it's perfectly transparent. it also creates headaches for us. and ridiculous stories on fox news. >> this coming just days after "new york times" executive editor jill abrahamson hit the administration writing, this is the most secretive white house that at least as a journalist i have ever dealt with. and the "associated press" director of photograph si says mr. obama's administration is in critical hypocritical defiance of the principles of openness and transparency -- at the expense of independent journalistic access. until the white house revisits its draconian restrictions on assess to the president, information savvy citizens, too, would be wise to treat those handout photos for what they are, propaganda. stephen, what do you make of these new claims by jay carney that this administration is the most transparent ever and those lies that you're hearing on fox news? >> take the specific example he gave of the secret service records. he's absolutely correct. they

remember, some of the working class white people say you white liberals won't have to live next to negrosl with the consequences of living next to black people. liberals have often had their cake and ate it too, and i think here the problem is that white liberals failed to look at the structural and systemic affects of racism that is so pervasive that, yes, just because we know that every conversation about barack obama doesn't have to be racist, you might not like his politics. the fact is race has poisoned the well so deeply and profoundly that making that distinction gets harder and harder. >> the -- it always does go right down to economics, doesn't it? it is about even in king's day about this fight over resources and scarce resources in economics. i want to play you something that kicked off this intra-liberal about raceed, the economic struggle of african-americans and how barack obama's view on race plays into that. sdoo liberals and progressives, we have this idea we were racist in the past, and we are suffering after effects. young african-americans who are looking for low wage

the white supremacists belong to different groups, the white supremacists, the order, the coku klux klan and were anti-black and anti-government. >> that was in 1987, ambitious prosecution brought against all of those white supremacist leaders, going after them for trying to overthrow the u.s. government, it's a sedition trial. that's when that "nbc nightly news" report was from, april 1987. by april 1988, it had all fallen apart. >> if ft. smith, arkansas, today, an all-white jury acquitted members of a white supremacy group of trying to kill federal officials. >> they tried to bring down basically the whole neo nazi and white supremacist movement in one fell swoop. they put 15 men on trial all at once for the most serious charges you can levee against american citizens. sedition, plotting to overthrow the government. the feds went for it and they missed. and that had to be a huge disappointment, right? at least an embarrassing failure, for the prosecutors and for the fbi agents who were involved in that big landmark case. >> but imagine if you were the informant in that case. imagine i

how self-loathing are white people that you just say we needless white people, and then a bunch of white people go, yeah! get rid of the whiteys. we are white. do you even think about what is going on? why do we needless white people? why not just more people to go to the school from different races? it doesn't mean we have to take it away. increase enrollment. >> think about the white people who are screwed over by college because they can't afford it. >> it doesn't happen, greg. we can always afford it. we have white skin. that's how it works. this is america, greg. you are not talking about canadians here. >> the problem with student loans is you can get a student loan and anybody can get them. the problem is it inflates the cost of tuition. it incenti vieses the colleges so the government is blindly handing out loans without differ wren differentiating on the skills of the person and the major. it balloons the cost of tuition. >> is it like 400% since like 1980? it is 400 teams the tuition -- times the tuition and it is not getting any better. that's how you end a segment with a thin

black-on-white violence.gether regardless of the unresolved issues. >> to what extent is it a rainbow nation? are things getting mixed? we like to think we live in a rainbow nation but in fact in the states, we live to a great extent in different neighborhoods. in some ways it looks to me, outside looking in, a little more gracefully mixed up than we've managed to pull off successfully in the states. >> here you've got black, white, colored, all sorts of people here. also once you acknowledge that the economic disparities are managing to keep us divided as well. i think what we need to do is unpack what we mean by rainbow. i think the idea of being united isn't our -- in our diversity also means there will be moments of discord. >> and you think things will continue to improve? >> yeah. i think we've seen our worst. and that's not to say that we're getting it right all the time. but it's an experiment you need to find as you go along. that's really the south african story. the dream is there. we all agree tha

what do you pay about the pay disparity in the white house itself? >> the news today is just wonderful because it's been something that i've been fighting and lobbying for ever since the ledbetter bill was signed because had this today paycheck fairness been the law or this thing, this executive order i signed today but having the government contractors be followed and make sure that they are adhering to the law, if this had been the law back in my day, i wouldn't be here because i would be at home drawing the proper retirement i had legally earned through my working career. i could not discuss my pay and couldn't find out and worked for an employer that had government contracts from the time i walked in until my retirement. and this would have been so beneficial to me and my family and i can assure you that unequal pay is still a big problem in this country today because i travel constantly talking to women and groups and different male and female groups and the men are beginning to understand it because they had mothers who worked and wives and dau

in fact, she later explained that she'd written at the plate to convince whites, especially white women, that lynching was wrong as illustrate by the fact that even outstanding black citizens were vulnerable to a. the initial production of rachel ran for just two days but it sparked intense discussion about african-american identity, racial violence and about what lacked drama should accomplish. rachel impacted writers and thinkers of the time but the significance has been underestimated by theater histories that locate the origin of black, in the 1920s. because willis richardson took fortune, the black author play to be produced on broadway in 1923 and langston hughes is two-year run of broadway in 1935, these men are often hailed as the fathers of black drama. yet richardson admitted that it was rachel that prompted him to be, a playwright. just as importantly, his work inspired conversations that led to increasing investment in black authored it, but some of the most influential negro leaders. he circulated the managed it before w.e.b. dubois form the, to me so her work was not a res

is the white house delegate all about benghazi or is the white house hiding something?he o'reilly factor but go to gretawire and vote in our poll. see you tomorrow night. 7 p.m. >>> the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> this is a classic coverup of a coverup. and that is a serious offense. >> why isn't the national media covering the explosive benghazi memo release yesterday? we'll tell you what the memo says and why the press fears it. >> the creepy part is that, yeah, when you get taped in your own house, and then that goes out to the world. >> the creepy part is when you demean the entire black race. but some people still don't get that tonight, we'll talk it over with kareem abdul jabbar. >> also coming up, miller on basketball racism and watters goes to harlem to find out what the fo

white people are killing other white people? glory hallelujah. i couldn't do that with a real guy so there may be stuff in there that's can't do virtual. i got in trouble when henry johnson to this amazing feat there was this racist bigot. back then we would call him a white american but horrible racist guy. he had a total change of heart and wrote this amazing article about henry johnson's feats of heroism where he said from this day date -- i can read something. let's read what ervin j. cobb, ervin s cobb wrote about henry johnson. let's find out. here we go. page 124. this came out in a newspaper in 1918. if ever proof was needed which is not that the color of a man's skin has nothing to do with the color of his soul this offered it in abundance. they were soldiers who wore their uniforms with smart pride who expressed a sincere heartfelt inclination to get a whack at their foe. as a result of what her black soldiers are going to do with this war a word that has been uttered billions of times sometimes in derision, sometimes in hate but which

obama's white house is a gated community. can you blame the white house or the coverup? you can, but the media won't care, because they covered up the cover up. they are so good at concealing they could put rev lon out of business. let's go around the horn. i know the white house is saying this is stuff we knew all along and we were just going by the information we knew, but dana what do you make of this bomb shell? >> all of us are going to have to wait in the reports in the morning when serious journalists are able -- >> how dare you? >> so they can pull together the entire timeline because it wasn't just a suggestion there's not a big deal, they are actually demonstratable evidence of contradictions that the white house is saying itself in months before. one in particular is the suggestion that ben rhodes came up with this on his own and then he wasn't even talking about benghazi but later in the email it's repeated and that subject line, benghazi, so i don't know if they think that we're really that stupid. i guess they do. and you do have to wonder where is the whit

the white house would say so. they bristled at some of the coverage from the media about the fact that it was not because of the trade deal. that said, there were expectations they would be able to advance this trade deal, particularly in japan even up till the last minute when they're waiting for the press conference between the president and prime minister abe. they were hoping to have language to show specific progress, but they have struggled to make progress on that in asia. it is something that is very important to this white house. they think it would be good for the economy in the united states and in these countries he is visiting, and for the world economy. another thing, shane might be able to talk about this more. they arehe push that using internationally, it also faces some significant resistance in the united states, and not where you might think. coming from democrats in the congress. guest: it was one of the interesting things this year, after the state of the union, the president talked about mov

such is the case for phillip white. once an aspiring writer who was recently convicted of murder. >> how did i go from hotels and room service to a cell. people's bathrooms at home is bigger than where i am living. >> i don't want to die like this. i don't want to cry like this. tell me why it's life like this. after serving a six year prison sentence in indiana for drug dealing. white moved to oakland for a fresh start. and made inroads in the city's rap scene. [ rapping ] >> but his dreams of stardom ended after he fatally stabbed his 44-year-old girlfriend 12 times in the arm and hand. >> number one song trying to shake heads. now i'm locked in a cell. how could the lord forget me? don't cry. >> white was living with his girlfriend and her four children. on the night of the murder, he and his girlfriend were at a rap show where white was performing. >> crowd was loving me. females was loving me. i'm just chitchatting and the person i was involved with, you know, they left. left me at the club. when i returned home th

meanwhile, the white house purposeture sent over to the national gallery, took it out of the white house, this is the white house furniture and storage at the national gallery and looks like the national gallery, this was an up finished gallery that the security guards converted into a basketball court. i should mention that most of the personture was not worth very much. president's routinely redecoratedded. we are not looking at old chip and dales here. one in 1882, dropped 24wagon loads of white house furniture off to the auction house, and many presidents did this, and grace coolidge lamented when she was first lady that she had looked around for original pieces of furniture and just found a single chair that belonged to lincoln. there was not much to save. there were a few pieces, and they took out what they could and moved it to the national gallery. this is the state dining room before the renovation began, and i'd like you to imagine it without its furniture, without the locke portrait or lighting fixtures. anything else in this picture that looks possibly worth preserving if it

whites actually voted for romney because he was white.lly voted against their own interests. so we do see a sort of racialized voting happening. it's not just about black -- >> the question i think is fair enough to ask, if blacks voting for democrats, is that considered racial -- is that purely racial voting or is it voting for their political -- and if whites are voting for republicans is it racial or -- >> or their interests. >> or their political interests. that's an interesting question. and sam, i want you to react to some political polling about how different demographics view the role of government right after we take this quick break. we did a 27-point inspection on your chevy,ce, you got new tires and our price match guarantee. who's this little guy? that's birney. oh, i bet that cone gives him supersonic hearing. watch what you say around him. i've been talking a lot about his procedure... (whispering) what? get our everyday price match guarantee plus a $100 rebate on 4 select tires from your tire experts. chevy certified servi

the white house says you have to consider the kind of jobs there are at the white house. critics say he is not doing when he lashes out at the private sector. later this week the senate will consider its own pay equity bill that is not expected to pass. >> it is the phrase do as i say not as i do that comes to mind. doug luzader thank you. >> a detroit man brutally mobbed a man is talking about what happened. joseph utash says his father steve was trying to help a 10-year-old boy who he spently hit when the boy ran in front of his truck. >> they were all out there playing with cars. i watched the last kid in a row touch the van, the kid is sticking his foot out in a road as soon as the car goes by he sticks his foot back on the curb. >> two teens are behind bars for the attack. police expect more arrests to be made. you will hear more from the family today on "fox & friends." joseph and sister mandy will join us at 8:15 eastern. >> the mysterious baby girl who had to be rescued 1,000 miles off of the gulf of mexico. they are defending their position to travel around the w

raised up in white schools because of my mother. i live in a virtually white complex right now.ing we did teach our they had great learning skills in new york. they all went to college and finished college. i was allowed to stay at home to raise my boys until i could go to business school. in a corporate firm. realize now that we were .eading books i don't like to say black and white. we are all one color to me. i would love to leave these united states if i could. i hate it now. i don't vote anymore. i stopped voting a long time ago. host: mary, thank you very much. any comments for that color? -- caller? guest: i don't know what i would respond to. host: we will move on to linda in texas. caller: i just wanted to say that i would to school in the 1970's when integration for started. to,junior high that i went most of the blacks lived across the street from the school in that area. they came across the street. the girls came with curlers in their hair. they had their how she is on. we had a pe teacher who was half black and half white. on those girls so bad for coming to school

and i think that's one of the reasons why inclusion into whiteness should not be the goal, because whiteness has expanded and contracted over the nation's history and that's played a real role in giving some people advantage and prominence in our system. but it comes at the cost of being a relational identity that is inherently antagonistic because it's not equal. and so we can expand its budget don't think that's going to actually address the fundamental concerns, which are how to get at the root of what we are actually afraid of which i think is the quality. >> one final question from the back. >> this goes to the future and sort of wrapping what the last few people asked and, jack, what you said that we've got all these unbelievably dire life-and-death issues on this planet, and just in our personal lives. i've been touring with another project around the country and talking to students and letting them talk about what it's like for them to be in this much more mixed community were you have to have dialogue. you have to have dialogue, because you're in school or your in the college. and s

whites actually voted for romney because he was white.eople actually voted against their own interests. so we do see a sort of racialized voting happening. it's not just about black -- >> the question i think is fair enough to ask, if blacks voting for democrats, is that considered racial -- is that purely racial voting or is it voting for their political -- and if whites are voting for republicans is it racial or -- >> or their interests. >> or their political interests. that's an interesting question. and sam, i want you to react to some political polling about how different demographics view the role of government right after we take this quick break. i procrastinated on... buying a car because i knew... it would be a scary process. truecar made it very easy... for me to negotiate, because i didn't really need to do any negotiating at all. save time, save money, and never overpay. visit truecar.com [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ t

at center of the developments, a incriminateing e-mail written by white house staffer ben rhodes white house constructing what was a act washed defense of their -- awkward defense of their words and actions in days following benghazi attack, white house claims there were two sets of talking points giveen to susan rice before she went on 5 sunday talk shows, and famously lead to the -- lied to the nation about what happened in benghazi, new white house ex plan nation comes a day after a freedom of information request by judicial watch produced that incriminateing e-mail. e-mail udateed september 14, with subject line reading, prep call with susan. states goal for her national tv appearances of quote, to underscore that these protests are rooted in an internet video and not a broader failure of policy. press secretary jay carney today, struggled to attempt to persuade the white house press core this e-mail, dateed 3 days after the terrorist attack, was not even about benghazi. >> this is not about benghazi, it was about overall situation in the region, the muslim world, you saw protests

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some were made at the white house request. we want to want to know what the white house redacked and why. raising a lot of the explosive allegations. what do you think this proves? >> it certainly proves, i think that the evidence will be to show it. it didn't end with lois lerner, it was a big deal for a midlevel irs employee to be involved in. we want to know how the decision- making process happen and how to stop it from happening again. we don't want the ears to be political. it is bad enough that they took all of the tax money. nlois lerner will be held in contempt of congress. where does that stand right now? >> they voted to hold her in contempt because she waived her fifth amendment right. >> she made allegations and didn't give us an opportunity to question. she waived them. it will be probably be before the entire house in a couple of weeks. >> that full vote could come after the eastern recess and happy holidays to you. >> and happy easter, ed. >> fox news alert. >> violence in ukraine. and three russian protestors

at the white house. white house, saturday,before msy show. they were resolved in the favor of the white house. what's odd here is that the false narrative that was given on sunday morning, on the sunday morning shows, somehow it strangely added up with the view of the white house six weeks before the presidential election that al qaeda was nearly defeated and the global war on terror was over. everyone knows that wasn't true. that al qaeda wasn't defeated. everybody on this committee, both sides knows that the global war on terror was not or. that was the narrative of the white house and the run-up to the presidential election. how weird that that ultimately was reflected in the talking points against all knowledge from people on the ground and knowledge that this committee had. that's why we're upset. because the american people from my perspective, were intentionally mislead by this administration as to what happened in benghazi. >> chairman, can i respond? i would make two point, ma'am. number one, the narrative that the attack evolved spo

from the white house perspective what is most important to them is whether there is any white house link to what the i.r.s. did. so far that is not proven. from their perspective they say that is the core of the issue and there are problems at the i.r.s. and this have been changes in leadership there and they are investigating this but the issue at the center of this at going whether there was white house involvement is not proven true and they say that is the most important point. >> doesn't it make it hard if you have this open ongoing investigation by the justice department when you have the president saying, case closed? >> i don't know if he said the case is closed. concernly that is a tricky thing to say when you have an ongoing investigation that you use as what you point to, to say the administration is taking this seriously. >> george, i was struck on our sister broadcast special report when you said there were three great scandals in washington: watergate, iran contra and i.r.s. why do you think this tries to that level? and why do you think the investigation is stalled? >> inv

totally white. >> charlie: so the president gets a little white in his hair and you say, look at me -- >> it's pointed out because everyone is so much taller that when i need to get my roots done he point it out. >> you're not talking one every here and there -- >> no, a silver fox. >> charlie: show me a picture. no pictures. never pictures. one day before i get my roots done, i'll send you a picture. you wouldn't believe me. i wouldn't make it up. >> charlie: it overcame you. had to. i've got to do this for just a couple more years. >> charlie: anything else we ought to know? do you work out? >> i do work out. i actually have this wonderful -- i work out only on saturdays and sundays -- >> charlie: that's not enough. beliefer me, this is going to change. >> charlie: do you have a gym at the white house? >> we do but i don't go there. >> charlie: exercise with the president. >> no, i do this exercise that requires your total attention and focus. you can't have your blackberry. you're focused so you don't fall off the machine. >> charlie: back to my question, how are you different now?

had nothing to do with the white house.had to do -- the question had to do with whether there was any corruption, and he basically gave the irs a clean bill of health when the investigation was still going on. you bring up a good point, and i want to bring -- >> that isn't what -- look. >> that was the question that was asked by bill o'reilly at the super bowl. i watched the interview. >> it related back for the administration and whether they were involved in this. there was an effort by the republicans to tie the white house to this there was zero evidence. it's a fair question. let me ask congressman boustany. do you have any evidence after a year of investigation that any official in higher-up in the irs, i higher-up in the treasury department or in the white house directed lois lerner to do what she allegedly did. >> the problem is we've been trying to follow these facts wherever they go, and we've been stonewalled with slow production of documents, and, clearly, we've been obstructed by lois lerner at every level. she

a fiery white house briefing. the white house taking aim at documents that appear to show that they could have been involved in preparing the infamous talking points on benghazi. white house press secretary jay carney saying a newly uncovered e-mail written by white house deputy strategic communications adviser ben rhodes was not about benghazi. >> the e-mail and the talking points were not about benghazi. they were about the general situation in the muslim world. it was specifically not about benghazi. it was about the overall situation in the region, the muslim world, where you saw protests outside of embassy facilities across the region, including in cairo and other cities. let me read to you -- this is interesting in particular. fox news sunday's promo for that appearance begins, anti-u.s. protests are spreading across the arab world. >> bret baier anchors "special report." all of this just breaking in the last couple of moments. jay carney has a new strategy here. first of all, he's discounting this e-mail fr

i worked at the white house. i got paid the same as my male counterparts and i would have expected nothing less but i know that a lot of women and men fought for me to have that right leading up to now. >> i think the tweet of the day goes to our ed henry. love all these guys but note six of the seven news organizations, eric, sitting in the front row were men but white house sent out a man to answer these questions, which is pretty good. >> so poor major garrett is going to be fired for calling out the white house. major garrett pointed out 88,000 versus 76,000 so men at the white house are paid more and women are paid 88 cents on the dollar. when president obama was senator obama, last year, 2008, he paid his men 57,000per year, the women 70% of that, 45,000 ballpark or show. of all the jobs president obama claims to have created since he started, only 38.5% are women. so 61.5% have gone to men. last month, the labor statistics came out, the unemployment rate, 180,000 women lost their jobs last month alone. ven

my hair is totally white. >> that is not true. >> i got my hair done for you, but it is all white. >> you are lying. >> is true. totally white. >> the president gets a little white in his hair and you say, look at me. >> he points out, because everyone is so much taller, he looks down and says, fix that. >> i'm talking like silver fox. >> you are a silver fox? show me a picture. >> there are not pictures. never pictures. one-day before i get my roots done, i will show you a picture. [laughter] >> vanity overcame you? >> it had to. i am only 38. just a couple more years. >> anything else we ought to know? you work out? >> i do work out. i actually have this wonderful -- only on saturdays and sundays. >> that's not enough. >> that is going to change. >> don't you have a gym? you can exercise with the president. >> i do exercise that requires your total attention and focus. you can't have your blackberry. >> back to your question. how are you different? >> probably a little more cynical. >> why? >> just because. you see how things happen. you know that life is probably a little more tran

now we see that came from the white house, right? >> john, no. you are wrong.that document, that document that we're talking about today was about the overall environment in the muslim world. >> why were you holding back this information? why was this email not turn over to the congress, why was it not released when you released all the other emails? this is directly relevant? why did you hold it back. why did it take a court case to release this -- >> john, i can say this again and again and i know you can keep asking again and again, this document was not about benghazi. >> are you essentially saying that -- you are suggesting that she got confused? >> no, i'm -- >> i don't want the answer that was supposed to be for the general situation and answer and use that answer and applied it to the specific -- >> not at all. i'm saying she was prepared as were members of congress based on what the ic produced to talk about benghazi, has as been discussed and as more information became available we would provide it based on the best informing we have. >>> jay carney a

>> the white house dennis mcdonough. i was asked to go to explain one thing and wanting one thing only the consistency between the talking points about the attack of evolving from a protest. i was asked to talk about the consistency between the talking points in the classified analysis. that is why i was asked to go and that is why i did it. >> the main question you are asked by the fbi you got wrong. everything he volunteered he got wrong. >> yes sir i got it wrong. >> you are going up there were susan rice to brief the senators on what happened in the key facts you were wrong. >> i was asked the question who took al-qaeda out of the talking points and i got it wrong. i said the fbi when in fact the cia was the one to take it out of the talking points. what i was thinking at the time was about another change that the fbi had asked for. the fbi made another change because it did not want to be too definitive about who conducted the attack. so i got it mixed up. i corrected the record as soon as i found out. >> they call

was 90% white. >> that doesn't mean whites are being exterminated, they're just other people here. >> everything that is killing us was brought about by jews. >> killing us? >> the legalization of abortion has already killed 40 million white babies in the united states. >> that is frazier glenn miller. he went on to praise a serial killer who was executed last year for the sniper killing of a man outside a synagogue in 1997. he killed a number of other people including an interracial couple and two black teenage boys and firebombed a synagogue and famously tried to kill hustler magazine publisher larry flynt. this is what frazier glenn miller said about franklin just moments -- months ago. >> they're going to kill him november 20. >> what he did was pretty heinous, you have to admit. he was gunning people down. >> well, he did have a rationale for it. >> a rationale? unreasonable in his mind. you got it was doing the right thing. >> but all murderers have some kind of rationale. >> he is a righteous vigilante. >> that is frazier glenn miller just months ago talking about joseph paul f

en i think the white house feels this is over, done, and not an issue for them anymore. >> and the white house is wrong, of course. it may prevail in the press but it got to the middle of it, at best. not the bottom. possibly the middle, but the question is did it really end with lois learner, is she the one who thought all of this up? there was a lot of evidence there was interaction with the white house. it simply hasn't been looked at. the attorney general has zero interest in doing it. you can be sure that his investigation will yield nothing and unless she is given immunity, i think this thing will die. it will be a textbook case of stone walling and inattentive press, you can get away with a major scandal. >> i want to point out just how much there is tension between administration and republicans open the hill. a little bit interchange day, he eric holder and republican congressman from texas, gohmert got into it. >> i realize that contempt is not a big deal to our attorney general, but it is important that we have proper oversight. >> you don't want to go there. you don't want to

the irs scandal is not tied to the white house, it hasn't.d more this week we've seen a couple of e-mails emerge that call into question what role did elijah cummings and the house minority staff have in looking at conservative groups. how much were they talking to the irs? was it more than they admitted publicly. you have this partisan sniping pointing the finger at elijah cummings and the regular american struggles to celebrate the weak from that but it matters in assessing their denials here. >> well, credibility does matter, and it is sad, i think, that if you look at the ratings of congress, they are, you know, in the pits. i served in the congress 12 years. i thought it was bad quite frankly when newt gingrich was the speaker of the house and i was a democrat. i thought that was a difficult time, but today the polarization is really, i think, quite harmful. i don't know how we're going to get beyond it. i hope we can. and come to the point where, you know, megyn, my first year in congress, my best friend was a republican member of congr

we're white supremacists so why a integrate into one that was hostile to your interest?so create your own party. to organize those that is black power use that as the independent force. >> host: that element is a chicken and the a cow intentional is he saying here is the march as a platform to amplify a that but cover message dirty was frustrated with the march? >> he came for sure with the ada and the message and the slogan of black power. soon after the shooting of meredith he goes to talk about the governing body why they should participate and among the arguments it can save platform to advertise our direction of black power. he uses the slogan even before the famous rally but not as the chance what do we want? black power. not intel midway through the march. advanced organizers say this is the best place use the slogan to capture the national mood and it is used in that way. it immediately becomes a controversy in many remember the news that night when black power was used and it blew their mind. and has the element of a new direction. with the symbolic value the ho

chait uses to talk about race and mostly the difference between white liberals and white conservativesdea that if you see race differently, it institutes insanity or or madness. >> i have two points that i think will be a fruitful conversation about this. i almost fell off my chair when i read that. when i researched my book, the idea of paranoia itself is incredibly racialized. it's not just a standard symptom. and through the 1960s and 1970s. the paranoia was used to pa thol jazz black protesters who were protesting against the u.s. government. so there's a history of paranoia that is in the political sphere. the second point is it's not really true. it's not just that. we have expanded conversation about race in the country. there are a million ways in which it has been silenced. fewer minority students on college campus and social science research about race. having a black president has ironically made it more difficult to talk about race. >> so this first point you made about the notion that paranoia itself is not a race neutral term. and part of the reason i want to get back to

republicans tried to tie the white house to this. there was zero evidence. >> let me interrupt and ask -- >> there is zero evidence. >> it's a fair question. congressman, do you have any evidence after a year of investigation that any official higher up in the irs, higher up in the treasury department or in the white house directed low he is lerner to do what she allegedly did? >> chris, the problem is we have been trying to get -- follow these facts wherever they go and we've been stonewalled with slow production of documents. clearly, we've been obstructed by lois lerner at every level. she misled the inspector general for tax investigation and she pleaded the fifth in front of the committees -- one of the committees twice. we have been not getting the documents that we need to really fully evaluate this so we can follow the facts from the ground up and see where they lead. >> congressman, let me interrupt you, too, if i may. because a lot of people -- congressman levin, let me ask my question. a lot of people, including some repub