every white nationalist is a white supremacist. not every white supremacist is not necessarily a white nationalist. they happen to believe in white superiority. >> thank you. another question we have says as someone in higher education i see the momentum go away and no more librarians organizing book groups, no more administrators standing on sidewalks during blm solidarity actions. how do we engage the folks who came to the party but aren't committed to the work in the long haul. >> number one, have you to remember that this will always happen. like there's no movement that i can think of in history that hasn't had its ebbs and flows. there are going to be low moments where the energy seems a little lower. and then you're going to have a burst of energy oftentimes that you didn't even expect that comes right after a low moment. and so number one, don't get discouraged by the fact that there's this for some people, this sort of ebbing of the tide because in historical terms, i mean, george floyd is killed in may, may 27th or whatev

they were in our white house. those alone are so special. i have a place card from the white house, you are a very rare person to have that. so it seems to me that they would be happy with that, anything that is not wired down sadly, even people who attend white house events thinks that host means take anything on the table. a question over here. >> after questions. one general and one specific. first general one is if you were to hire the next social secretary, what would be the tough qualities that you would look for? >> that is a good question. i think that there is something about, we both when we started these jobs, we talked about it, we were like how did we get here you play it off as if we belong. we all have our insecurities but one of the important things is to be confident enough in yourself that i think everyone in the white house feels like when are they going to find out the mistake that they made and i'm going to be thrown out of here. so it is common, but you don't want to in front of your staff appear to be uncertain. so tha

and it turns out that diversity does something particularly for white students and white employees andlts on teams that increases critical thinking, that sort of puts people on their toes, that increases empathy and a lot of the indicators of, you know, positive citizenship. this kind of diversity and integration is a positive and normative good and for me to tell the story of a number of white families that were able to do what was not encouraged by their communities which is to seek out global majority schools. >> yeah, i love that term and as someone who reads the same research i had not actually heard that term. ewe used the term global majority in an interview or at least it comes up in an interview with a multi-racial woman who has decided to take her kids out of a high achieving good performing school. maybe tell us a little about her and her journey because i think it's revealing the choices, at the ended of the day, this is a book about choices and she made a different choice. >> yeah. her name is allie takata, half japanese and half white and she grew up in a largely white su

so that is a particular kind of white person and are taken are kind of white adoptive parent. who will say all that matters is our love for you and the fact that we brought you into this family and we treat you like another member of the family. >> what is your advice for again a colleague of a co-worker and friend who thinks in some warped way they are doing you a solid buyer racing your? they are treating you as an equal by pretending to essentially that you are not actually black. you aren't like, however they internalize it in their head. what's the strategy to break out of that? >> insofar as the strategy your advice i don't have a strategy or device. i do have a statement which is that is delusional and it's deeply offensive. the erasure part of it while perhaps coming from a well-intentioned, which i would just love to wipe that whole phrase off of the entire planet, you know like i will find you valuable if i erase something that is integral to who you are. like who thinks that? but that's not what these particular white people are thinking that is specifically what th

white house. i found that in the lincoln book, he gave me an opportunity to take a perspective all the as employer, as manager of the white house the way that he used it politically, socially and otherwise and i found out that it was very interesting and different from what had been written before and i thought the same thing should work with jefferson and i hope it has. and the second thing i guess is i worked in washington myself for eight or nine years in the seventies and eighties on capitol hill and elsewhere. and, a used to strike me then that and must have been an entirely different place back when he was a wilderness. i've always found that interesting and worth looking at more carefully, so those are the basic reasons why i focus on that. >> so we'll start at the beginning of the story. the election of 1800 was famously contentious and acrimonious. can you tell us a little bit about it and the john adams welcome thomas jefferson to the white house? >> well, first of all, particularly in t

>> great to them is white.he constitution was written, the union didn't include african americans. it didn't include mexicans or spanish americans. and so when you say make america great again, from my perspective, when has america been great? america has always been white. america has always been us against them. >> in the wake of el paso, the department of homeland security for the first time since it was created after 9/11, added white supremacist violence to its list of priority threats. at the prince of peace church, pastor grady held a special sunday service. ♪♪ he organized a fund-raiser to help his daughter on her long road to recovery. then the guest of honor made a surprise appearance. it was the first time michelle had left the hospital. >> having what this community teaches has seen me through countless bad days since this has happened. the support of my fellow church members has been profound. they're praying for me. it's helped me a lot to know that i have support. i felt like it was important to

of whiteness. my dear friend jennifer wiley of the former president of franklin high school, doyou know her ? >> i saw her saying hello. >> hey doctor wiley, an extraordinary woman and many conversations about her, robust conceptions of introspection, of self critique as you present of really self critique and willingness to put that on the line to say in the vulnerability i was speaking about and can white and black peopleknow each other , you and i, michael and jennifer. to know each other because we expose our innards to each other and we take the masks off so the every day version of the kind of ghastly satisfaction might not be the need of derek chauvin boring into the column of george floyd so that as he begs for breath, he is denied. he is ignored so to me in the everyday world it's when i go down the street, i must tell you. i go into buildings. and unless i white folks first, they rarely me. black folks it's how are you doing, the head nod and i know that's cultural telegraphing and that's

of course we know about white people. coworkers and teachers and everybody on the screen but it created a cost but they really didn't have the full picture for their fellow americans were. >> and the very notion of segregation and out of this formative experience shifting from overwhelmingly black segregated community but to put words in your mouth they didn't have the luxury of not knowing why people they were all around at borders are on television on charge that yet white people had a huge deficit with their experience it was costly to those that read your book also. so often we talk about the impact of racism and indigenous folks if we rule out to see that racism there is a cost for everyone so the chapter on segregation and to recognize that white people are the most segregated people in america the most racially isolated at a time of raising diversity with the educational emotional interpersonal that segregation not just about enumerate a cost the cost white people also also the word white fragility if the post geor

he comes with a parade to the white house and they review the white house. and then the evening events and that's when we see the inaugural balls. there can be one ball, five balls, or 14 balls. president clinton in 1993 had 14, that is the record at the present time. frequently there are six or seven and it depends on the president and their resources available, it depends sometimes on the weather as to what they're going to be able to do. it's up to them, the nature, the timing, and the expanse of these. they can have them be very elaborate or fairly simple. >>> you're watching american history tv created by america's cable television companies and we're brought to you by these companies that provide american history tv to viewers as a public service. >>> so you're on the property of dr. howard hankins. it is an industrial recycling area and he owned as much as 600 acres here and has partitioned off a couple hundred to the near by golf course. and this is a small sliver of what is remaining

give when when white male f.b.i. agent looks out on the horizon about who might be a threat later these violent white supremacists who have been part of our society for decades aren't right is the big problem it's some new emerging issue that tends to come from a space that is uncomfortable for that f.b.i. agent right so it's easy to look at black lives matter movement or the standing rock water protectors and think that that is extremely dangerous even though if you evaluate them objective lead by the evidence they're not nearly as violent as as white supremacist or pyrite militia groups. so there is a tendency to view them and in fact the f.b.i. created a designated terror in the category called black identity extremism. that tried to manufacture a terrorist threat out of the black lives matter movement. so i think it is a problem but my concern with those groups actually becoming violent is the lack of law enforcement attention to white promises violence well gentlemen we're going to have to we're going to have to

kids over here let's do this so you had the white citizens council in the ku klux klan white supremacist organizations in the south that started chain of charter schools they started chain of privately run text peer support is schools all across the south that enroll tens of thousands of students. therefore mean private protestant schools which are all white and they're sort of popping up sort of all over you start having foundations not the big ones like not the not the huge ones but small family foundation in. need when foundations start funding this separation in the segregated academies left and right because they see the potential for more of a mass movement around this idea that we can now have access to taxpayer dollars and not have oversight. for a group of philanthropic and business leaders it becomes a financial opportunity. may not actually have been that grounded in race but tying it up with with racism and white supremacy turned it into. a bonanza. confuses the ideal whiteness with this idea of private work white is good and private also was good what's the opposite of white

nationalist is a white supremacist but not every white supremacist is white nationalist.hey don't necessarily feel. >> thank you. another question, higher education, is the momentum going away. no more administrators sidewalk, solidarity's, hardly engage those who came to the party are really committed for the workflow. >> number one, you have to remember this happens, there's no i can think of in the history of hasn't had their going to be low and lower and you will have a burst of energy oftentimes shouldn't even expect that comes right after a low moment and number one, don't be discouraged by the fact that there is for some people, and edging of the type because in historical terms, george floyd is still may 27 or whatever of last year so we are now at the beginning of february so we are nine months and, if you put this in historical terms, that would be like after the citizens in february 1960, is this burst of energy and sweep throughout february, that would be like saying in november, if things are a little slow, this civil rights movement, that was cool while it l

remains a mostly white mostly male. organization and if you look at how white males voted over the last 2 elections you have a pretty good idea what. that majority of f.b.i. agents would would believe and. particularly when you. after $911.00 the idea was we had done at least the f.b.i. and so we reduced what are called criminal predicates and this is the level of evidence you need to start investigation so we remove these criminal predicates with the idea that we want the f.b.i. to act you know with with less evidence but when you do that you can have a tendency and this is true throughout the history of the f.b.i. you know when when white male f.b.i. agent looks out on the horizon about who might be a threat later these violent white supremacists who have been part of our society for decades aren't saying is the big problem it's some new and emerging issue that tends to come from a space that is on comfortable for that f.b.i. agent right so it's easy to look at black lives matter movement or the standing rock water pr

but, it's not that poor white people are joining these groups.eople went to that attack flew there on private jets. this is more deeply woven throughout our society. we have to understand what our media culture is doing is doing that is pitting americans against one another, and how politicians are using those divisions to secure their own politics. we have often heard of racist dog whistles in our politics. well, donald trump, with some media outlets that promoted him, found a way to make those dub whistles april horn, and it made a lot of this activity more public, and more acceptable to be part of these militant wings of the party and still be accepted into the mainstream political conversation. i think that is what is very dangerous. it's different. steve: this would be an opera question, if you were to update the movie to make it in light of what we are seeing play out, have you thought a little bit about what else you would bring to this set of visuals, this set of stories you told, if you were to bring it into today? >> i want to piggyback

she's half japanese and half white. she grew up in a largely white suburb of hartford connecticut and had two young children what are these questions you have as a parent. she was pushed in these ways by the housing crisis that were higher in the neighborhoods that were encouraged and into the part of austin that is highly segregated and she spent about a year with her children and that a good school, highly rated, highly segregated white privilege school and realized it wasn't conforming to her values if the city wasn't going to desegregate the schools i was going to do it for myself, for our family so she ends up sending her children to a school in east austin and the family finds it to be a more enriching experience that comports with the values. >> that was a beautifully told story and very clear example. this is a book that i think so beautifully captures the big and the small and the conversations with each other and how people define the well-being quite differently. what you show repeatedly in the ark of the boo

if you use the ideal of whiteness with this idea of private work white is good and private also was good what's the opposite of white woman asked to be black was the opposite of private has to be public so any type of space big or small neighborhoods buses bathrooms schools become rationed to great it gets devalued and they can still be creative. there is a move to essentially to. withdraw whites withdrew from those spaces and they created private alternatives to go spaces and then you know set up public golf courses or private golf courses that a public pools or backyard swimming pools so they're going to parks to play in the playground their backyard swing sets so they're taking the public bus and take a private car and then the civil rights movement starts to happen and that fundamentally i think changes the game. which is the rise here it's a report on the people often ignored but who must be hurt how many other channels can you say will take the time and put extensive thought into reporting from under reported areas of course we cover major global events about our past lives and mak

confuses the ideal whiteness with this idea of private work white is good and private also was good was the opposite of white woman asked to be black was the opposite of private has to be public so any type of space big or small neighborhoods buses bathrooms schools become rationed to great it gets devalued and they can stay green if. there is a move to essentially to. withdraw whites with through from those spaces and they created private alternatives to both spaces and then the house at a public golf courses or private golf courses that a public pools are back air swimming pools said i'm going to park to play in the playground there's backyard swing sets that have taken the public bus and take a private car and then the civil rights movement starts to happen that fundamentally i think changes the game. the only u.s. president to be impeached twice acquitted the 1st time but will donald trump make it out on scathed a 2nd time he faces charges of inciting insurrection and a possible disqualification from future public office we'll bring you the latest developments from capitol hill from

i worked in the ford white house at that time. and i knew the white house. i knew the white house structure. i guess better than anybody else. who was there at the moment and so i was drafted into this effort. jim baker stayed away from washington for the majority of the time left at edm used to run the transition, but we had a small team that worked towards the planning and it was just by chance, and i guess i knew knew the structure and new where new the offices that i would be put in charge of the planning for the white house piece of it. about this i'm sorry. i didn't hear your question stuart. this chris. i was gonna ask chris the same question. yeah this come to drop in your lab. well in april of 2008 i was then senator obama's legislative director. he was off on the campaign trail trying to win. he was in the middle of a heated primary contest against hillary clinton, but he had the foresight to realize that this was going to be the first post nine eleven transition and since i had been with him from his first day in the senate, i actually am a law sc

among them, the white house with special conservation support from the white house historical association. we've also partnered with the national first ladies' library, the library of congress, the state department, and numerous presidential sites and libraries. and to mark the occasion of this exhibition, we published what we call an ever green book, a book that will outlast the exhibition of first ladies of the united states. and it's dependent on the partner for our book america's presidents. these make fabulous stocking stuffers in case you're looking for something for the holiday season. at the national portrait gallery, while we do have this wonderful collection of presidential portraits, we only began to commission portraits of first ladies in 2006 with this portrait of hillary rodham clinton. and since then we've commissioned portraits of laura bush and of michelle obama. and we hope that this tradition will continue. this is really important because first ladies have not always been the subject of portraiture. and the exhibition is actually lacking the faces of a couple of women

it is a form of providing welfare to elderly white men and elderly white women, because their widows get it, and a very small group of african-americans who served their own purposes and are often able to get a very small amount of money if they promise to support white supremacy is basically the gimmick. pensions are a tool of power because money is a tool of power. i notice there is a question in here about philanthropy. i just glanced at it. carr donated lots of money to african-american schools, and he was even praised by various african-american intellectuals as being a friend of african-americans. here is the thing. the reason they were dependent upon his money, upon his donations, was because of the policies he pushed that did not fund african-american education. for them to get that money required them to toe the racial line. he would actually give speeches where he would say as much and basically say that -- to african-american graduating classes. he got invited because he gave all this money. stop telling northerners you are being mistreated in the south or things will happ

>> great to them is white., the union didn't include african americans. it didn't include mexicans or spanish americans. and so when you say make america great again, from my perspective, when has america been great? america has always been white. america has always been us against them. >> in the wake of el paso, the department of homeland security for the first time since it was created after 9/11, added white supremacist violence to its list of priority threats. at the prince of peace church, pastor grady held a special sunday service. ♪♪ he organized a fund-raiser to help his daughter on her long road to recovery. then the guest of honor made a surprise appearance. it was the first time michelle had left the hospital. >> having what this community teaches has seen me through countless bad days since this has happened. the support of my fellow church members has been profound. they're praying for me. it's helped me a lot to know that i have support. i felt like it was important to show that, you know, i'm st

the other issue is the white liberal the white moderate those people say i agree with you in general but now is not the right time. we have bigger fish to fry there's always a bigger fish to fry the and tackling white supremacy and searching for black equality. always. always. the reason why the construction failed is there was a contested election and the compromise was to withdraw federal troops from the south but everybody knew what would happen. and that's exactly what happened. taylor rained and you died everybody calling state after state after state to the rate white supremacy into the dna. there literally saying i am here to wait on - - right white supremacy into the law. >> you also talk about the partisan politics and you acknowledge that president trump is despised as he has been he attracted the largest percentage of black votes in the last 40 years and a significant number of hispanic votes by 30 percent. and gaze as well. >> yes. >> it seems to me that people make strategic decisions. maybe not racial ones. do you see it that way? what is the role of partisan politics w

i became a white supremacist. and this was all in germany. still in germany in 1998. a group of kkk members asked me if i wanted to join the kkk, because that group existed in germany since the 1920's. many people do not know that. host: the kkk existed in germany since the 1920's? guest: kkk groups existed in germany since the 1920's. they were ironically banned under hitler because he wanted to control everything. american gis brought it back to germany in the 1960's. than skinheads brought it back in the 1980's and 1990's. ever since, you have four or five kkk groups living in germany, small, but they are there. one of these groups started following me around because i became a well-known musician in the white supremacist movement, so i was doing concerts every weekend. they followed me around and asked if i wanted to join. ended up for two years in that group and then a few years later, forming my own group. until 2002, this is when the changing point came in, that i got out of the movement. host: so, let me s

whiteness.race obsessed approach to daily life is vindictive and counterproductive. it drives a wedge, not a conversation. and the race peddlers are now part of a growth industry. they give speeches across america for tens of thousands of dollars a pop and absolution to companies that pay their hefty consulting fees. calling someone a racist means the end of the debate, not the start of one. since the democrats don't want to defend their lockdown agenda urging racism as a charge is their perfect out. to get the republican party can no longer say they don't agree with the bigots in the racist with the white supremacist, with the anti-semites. >> there are legitimate white supremacist sympathizers that sit at the heart end of the core of the republican caucus. >> there is a fine integration between white supremacist logic the vitriol insist of perfect through the mouths of some gop star words. >> what sad little people. let's see very clear here because i don't want anyone to misunderstand what we

and white power. and that group of people is invested in you not leaving, you not migrating, you not finding a better future somewhere else because we are the negro whisperer who they sent to the ghetto of whatever they call the ghetto to say tell them to go vote for this councilman and told to go vote for this mayor. you know them very well, don't you know so-and-so on that block and don't you know the barbershop? that is how they derive their power. they were always the opposition from the class of people to the people on the bottom, the working-class people doing for themselves what they have been knighted to do. the other issue you bring up is the white liberal. those are the people, the white moderate, those are the people who say i agree with you in general, and now is not the right time. we have bigger fish to fry. there will always be bigger fish to fry than tackling white supremacy and searching for black equality, always. always. the reason that reconstruction failed is because the west the

white male run for the highest. someday a black will leave the country that someday women will me that country. sure that was the 1st and the 1st woman to run seriously for the presidency of the united states she was a witness. that we would have to. move beyond a simplistic attitude of. marches and chants. and shouts devolve power to the people it will mean making our power to the people reality. by repealing the russian. that's been meted out against those that are truly ended have been a freedom and justice in this country all power to the people i call those are being black liberation movements are stepping up the pressure of the campaign to free and german. was. it wasn't a question of morality it wasn't a question of being good and bad it was some good president. and the we black people had no power we. own the type of power we could have the black. power. there was this very short period of time in the seventy's around community control in who is best able to educate black children. so the black panther party

but he thought it was important mainly for poor whites. land bought independence it brought independence. it meant you could have your own farm and you could work you are not going to be dependent upon other people. and that is what he wanted for poor whites. that's what put him in opposition with jefferson davis. it's like why you give this land a way to these people one of the work for like everybody else. or have a famous family where you could just grab land. but the point was but he was in all measures and understanding person about the nature of poverty. and the nature of class in america. he just could not get past the racial question. he believed in the inferiority of blacks. he believed that because of that, that they should either you know he basically said i don't care where they go. they could be emancipated, but they are not going to have rights, not the same kind of writes that white men would have. so that figured and said any he said openly, but the united states should be a white man's government. this was not an unusual t

public to overcome white prejudice and proof to the white body politic that in fact there is an underlying equality of people of color and formerly enslaved people had an equal aptitude for freedom and they hoped this would tear down what they saw as a really important pillar of slavery and racial inequality and that was white prejudice and what would be increasingly referred to as racism. those are the themes and goals of the first movement abolitionists and abolitionism. now i want to talk more specifically about who made up this coalition. which historic actors are we talking about? the first group, one of them work quakers, the wrist -- the society of friends. they are very important. they are the first group who really worked against slavery and by the time of the revolution, quakers increasingly say if you are part of religious society, you cannot own enslaved people and an anti-slavery movement goes up within the society of friends and a lot of the strategies i just mentioned that the first movement abolitionism implemented, quakers were a key part in that. they are key actors in th

gwendolyn dubois shaw to white house history live. she is the national portrait gallery seniors dorian and director of history, research and scholarly programs. appointed in 2019, she is the first woman and the first african american, to hold that position. before joining the national portrait gallery, she was an associate professor of the history of art, at the university of pennsylvania. her work has focused on race, gender sexuality and class in the united states, latin america and the caribbean. in addition to the first lady's exhibit, that we will be talking about this evening, she has curated many exhibitions, and including 200 years of african american art at the university of pennsylvania at philadelphia art. the mauve clear art museum in new jersey as well. she received her ph.d. and art history from stanford university. if you'd like to ask doctor shaw the question, please write in the comments section of this life easy. we will get to as many questions as possible at the end of our program. gwendolyn dubois shaw we look for

students in which white students of color can only be free if white students confess their oppressor status or their white privilege as they call it. so do you believe that there is an issue when it comes to race when it comes to racial bias against people of color and this is simply taking things too far. of course that racism exists yes and it's it's a horrible horrible thing but we have now moved from a place where racism is a thing that somebody does to somebody based on their skin color or in other words an action to something that somebody simply is by virtue of the color of their skin and that's really the line that i think it's important for people to know that we're now operating with 2 different dictionaries that smith college believes racism is this invisible force that is everywhere embedded in the institution embedded in all of white people simply by being white are upholding this system of racism as opposed to actual acts of racism in which somebody observable acts where you use reason and logic and evidence to determine whether or not a racist act has occurred so that'

those are white privilege qualities.is the word of the day, widespread more polarizing dogma? every i.d. is reduced to a quick bait. it's killing us literally. one of the most obvious findings in social science, reductions in effective policing correlate with rising crime. less cops, more crime. the reductions in policing were obviously linked to cries of systemic racism. now you see the dramatic rise in victims happened to be black. while it's a laugh to think mittens are racist, after 2020, the joke isn't that funny anymore. you wonder how long a country can endure when everything in it is deemed racist. billions of dollars in businesses were burned to the ground last summer. minority owned businesses too. i've got some of them sold jackets and mittens at affordable prices. dana, i am looking, are you wearing a turtleneck? that smacks of white privilege. >> dana: it is turtleneck week. i'm going to wear when every day. it's cold and it's winter. we are remote. this is what i wanted to know. i think it's ridiculous. but

about the mayflower but not the white lion -- if you could explain.lked about mariah stewart and why it is important to know her story. >> the first thing that we emphasized, and we make this clear in the book, is that certnly black people were present on what becomes the united states long before 1619. we make this clear and of course even a group of africans who were present around 15 20's, but theyltimately fled. the reason we focus on 1619 is that it is a symbolic first date of black america but also because this is when the first group of captive africans rived in jamestown, virginia, via the white lion. this is why we start where we do in the book. if you fast-forward to the 1830'ss, this is where you meet mariah stewart and the city of boston. whats so important about mariah stewart is an abolitionist, black feminist, someone who spoke boldly about black rising freedom at a moment where millions of black people were still enslaved, paicularly ithe u.s. south her story helps us see the prominence of black women leadership and certainly black wid

but the white house also said this. "while there were areas of agreement, the president also reiterated his view that congress must respond boldly and urgently and noted many areas in which the republican senators' proposal doesn't address. he reiterated that while he is hopeful that the rescue plan can pass with bipartisan support, a reconciliation package is a path to achieve that end." even if democrats go this route, even if they use this process where they would only need 50 democratic votes to pass their plan, nothing says republicans can't still vote for it. right? i mean, if they negotiate in good faith, they can still maybe even make changes to the bill. they can make changes that maybe everybody will agree with that are constructive suggestions. but democrats do appear to be united this time around in saying they're not going to let their legislation be held hostage. they are not going to do something that is worse for the country because republicans demand it. lessons learned. so what happens next? joining us

black people shouldn't portray white people it's historically white stories and vice versa we have our own stories it's not empowering it's silly so instead of making stories drawn through and intriguing live select historical figures across the world human to reproduce is just going to keep casting black actors to play when people and color diversity in progress only a matter of time before martin luther king is splayed by dominic west. are discussing it with us next is political analyst reese everson and political blogger anthony bryan logan both welcome back to r.t. . 2021 this is still a thing reese i mean diversity in theater reimagining is as old as theater itself isn't it why should this still be a problem do you think what we're doing is we're looking through a new lens we're realizing that historically that women of color particularly black women and men have been shut out of roles that were whether they were you know characterizing a person of color or not they've been shut out of those roles i have and so what we're doing is maria magine in ways to open those doors and open

it wasn't no white or black thing. we lost together, we won together. >> reporter: for henry, growing up in small-town mississippi, the nfl was his ticket to success. after attending mississippi state university, he was drafted in 1993 by the pittsburgh steelers. what was it like to play in the nfl? >> it was hard, man. i ain't going to even lie. it was easier to get there than to stay there. you have to do whatever it takes to stay up there, stay on that field. >> kevin henry in there -- >> reporter: henry played for eight seasons, making 14 career sacks, even going on to play in super bowl xxx. but at the age of 33, the bright lights of the stadium and the roar of the crowds came to an end. and like many other former players, henry struggled in retirement, battling what he suspected were the long-term effects of the concussions he sustained on the field. >> i get a lot of headaches. every morning, i have a headache. it's just a number of things, man, that a player goes through, man. after football, life after footbal

when i went to the doctor, there was an office for us, and an office for white people.this is -- we're just beginning the process of any kind of reconciliation, any kind of understanding. so i would just say be patient that it's not -- >> i won't be around. [ laughter ] >> thank you. thank you for asking. [ applause ] >> during the period of reconstruction, you see the rise of racially motivated violence towards african-americans and voter suppression. >> mm-hmm. >> and voter intimidation. i was -- in any of your research, did you find any evidence that president johnson or anybody in his administration encouraged that intimidation or violence towards african-americans or pro-civil rights republicans? >> no, i did not find any evidence that he encouraged it, but he definitely did nothing about it. people told him what was going on, and that didn't concern him. i think that's a principle difference. they say, lincoln had conciliatory things in place. he was trying to bring them back into the fold. he was doing conciliatory things. i don't think -- if lincoln was lincoln,

the fbi remains predominantly a white male organization. over 80% white and over 80% male. so i think what they look at when they look at threats to the national security that they imagine they don't feel their families are threatened by white supremacist violence. so they don't prioritize that as a threat. where they see things they're unfamiliar with as more threatening, whether that's environmentalism or part of what we saw after 9/11 was a lot of very biased, islamophobic counterterrorism training materials the fbi produced. so that was the same kind of materials that white militant and white supremacist groups were putting out. it put them in the same room, so to speak, on those issues. and i think that so much of this crime they look at as a state and local law enforcement issue rather than a federal issue because again, they don't see it as a national security threat. even though they acknowledge it's the most deadly of the categories of domestic terrorists that they watch. >> mike, we appreciate your candor and your knowledge on this. thank you so much. thank you ve

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we have to take off the siding, and the interior white board. to see what the logs underneath look liked. but we contracted with a building conservator. and we dismantled the building lock by log. we restored parts of it that we could restore. and we replaced a few parts. and rebuilt it here in the museum, log by log. and there are actually hundreds of ex cabins, that were inhabited by enslaved individuals, that have been re-used decade after decade. and the slave cabin, that we saw earlier in the tour. in the slavery and freedom exhibition, that was occupied until the 19 eighties. most of them have been reconstructed, updated vinyl siding, but the current inhabitants, don't even realize underneath the shell of the building, is the structure of a former slave cabin. and we will see the rest of the response to this kind of independence, with the creation of a segregation society, and then the response to that with the civil rights movement of the 19 fifties and sixties but this is. at the very end of the civil war. african americans saying had ci