social office in the whitehouse is incrediblely small.me, i would think, if there were a female president. i would presume that if the first gentlemen would want to be involved with this, they would happily take their advice. i think it would just be individual >> this is a photograph from french newspaper that haws the french president with president obama this morning. and i want to talk about changes because he didn't bring his long-term girlfriend. what does that change mean? >> you try to account for every detail, but you cannot be so ridged, you can't be flexible. we were talking about changing the invitation, but the folks that got it received it as it was. we have cligfers down the house from the social office and they work long hours and can make any changes needed for theman -- for the menus -- >> we welcome the listeners on the radio. we are talking about state dinners. we have our next caller from indiana. >> i wanted to know i also see politici politicians and business people and important people are only invited to the state

social office in the whitehouse is incrediblely small.ncredi y incredibly -- small. and that format would probably stay the same, i would think, if there were a female president. i would presume that if the first gentlemen would want to be involved with this, they would happily take their advice. i think it would just be individual >> this is a photograph from french newspaper that haws the french president with president obama this morning. and i want to talk about changes because he didn't bring his long-term girlfriend. what does that change mean? >> you try to account for every detail, but you cannot be so ridged, you can't be flexible. we were talking about changing the invitation, but the folks that got it received it as it was. we have cligfers down the house from the social office and they work long hours and can make any changes needed for theman -- for the menus -- >> we welcome the listeners on the radio. we are talking about state dinners. we have our next caller from indiana. >> i wanted to know i also see politici politician

they lived in the whitehouse and she put it on the map. dining at the whitehouse at big important dinners was the expense of it was born by the president as a matter of fact. this is important to remember. there was no budget for official entertaining until the coolidge administration. the president and first lady were given a salary and they took care of those expenses themselves. >> can you give some specific examples of what first ladies brought to the fwin dinners and the diplomacy in the state house? >> the role of the first lady was an evolution. it was determined by the first lady herself what she wished to do. dolly was hands-on and warm. elizabeth monroe, her successor, was more aloof. elizabeth said i am not going to return calls which made her very, very unpopular. and a lot of the women in washington decided they were not going to come. so a lot of the monroe administration dinners were stag affairs. when jackson and van buren were in the whitehouse they were widowers. so they had substitute first ladies who didn't do very much

it is hard to get mail into the whitehouse. but i would imagine a note would be good. ... >> when we did china, we moved people from the state dining room into the easter road. they were able to have coffee and move into the eastern room. dinner by dinner. >> final question, you have to be prepared for everything including -- a wardrobe malfunction. >> yes. it was not the first lady but the president. came down fromy private quarters and that usually takes at least three minutes. are lined up waiting downstairs waiting for the receiving line. he was buttoning his jacket on his tuxedo and the button pops off. president obama, his button pops off of his jacket. we had to find a needle and thread and so it's back on. that took about 10 minutes. was sayingl officers what is going on? we had a workable amount function but we got it fixed. everything went smoothly. of the obama white house. former social secretary. thank you for being with us. >> we want to share more from the white house as we said french president hollande to be gr

how does the whitehouse interpret that.e schedule to decide up or down on the pipeline. >> this is one, this is one of many important inputs in that process. it's an important one. >> how close are we to the even. >> i'm not going to prejudge that right now. what's important, the president laid out last summer in the speech at georgetown his standard for what he thinks should be governor the decision on keystone which is that it should not significantly exacerbate what is a significant climate change crises we face in this country. very chilling story in the "new york times" snievment about the impact of climate change on droughts in the west, california which is now seeing some pretty serious doamplets as a result of climate change. so we'll be looking at that. the president's role is to protect this from politic. let the expert agencies and the cabinet sects make their assessment both of the study that was put in on friday as well as its impact on the national interests. we'll resolve that over the coming period of time.

i yield back. >> thank you, senator whitehouse. i first of all want to come back to a point that mr. medine made that we should be immensely grateful to our intelligence community nor the courageous and able contribution they make to protecting our national security. and i said it yesterday when the armed services committee heard testimony from director clapper, we frequently emphasize the failings because we don't all see the successes. we should be mindful of the courage and dedication that they demonstrate day in and day out. ome of them in harm's way. i may be the only person on this committee who feels this way, that the ve disclosure that only 30% of these records are actually collected, and that the proportion has plummeted since 2006 is a real game changer. it calls into question the entire rational -- rationale for the metadata collection program. as a matter of process it really raises the question of credibility for the united states government in the representations that it has made to the fisa court, its failure to cor

i think chris christie may end up as time goes on worried less about going to the whitehouse and moreng to the big house. that's actually a real threat for him. this is a stupid scandal. he was going to win this election. he or his staff did not have to engage in hard ball tactics. they opened a can of corrupt worms, you know, the stuff that went in hoboken or it's alleged to have gone on and they put it all in e-mails. now he's collapsing in republican polls for 2016, favorable and unfavorable is up side down. i've never seen a supposed front runner for a nomination implode so fast. >> you're not a disinterested party. >> no, you're right. >> democrats would like to see chris christie fall and tumble. but i want to get back to what you said about the criminality. you believe there's significant criminal down side risk for the governor. >> i think there is risk. he's going to get call in by the u.s. attorney at some point and ask when he knew. peace either going to stick to the story in a press conference or he's going to give a different story. what he says under oath better be true.

they whitehouse is right. the health care law is more than a website, but there are so many problems beyond the website, i don't know if scrapping the website as obama considered would have saved much of anything. i think you would have seen a lot of problems on the back end. >> and president carter had not real successful stint in the whitehouse. it was said because he was a micromanag micromanager. this is implying obama is out in space and not in much on what was going on >> i don't think anyone would accuse the president privately or publically as being a micromanager. that is not his style. this white house can be insular and they have had trouble reaches across the blocks of capital hill. this is a closed in whitehouse in terms of who the president keeps as counse counselors. >> thank you both for coming in. >> ukraine's ousted president is doubling down claiming he is still the leader of the country speaking from russia. amy has more on this. >> reporter: there is an increasing russian or pro-russia mil

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what we need in the whitehouse -- we don't need all of these politicians and old blood. we need new blood and leaders. >> got your point nancy >> that is a tricky one for the clintons. they bring back a lot of baggage. but clinton's approval ratings in the '70s, and hilary clinton ratings back then with just as high. >> i think it is why you see carl rove and other republican leaders saying this isn't fertile ground, the scandals from the '90s, if it didn't hurt bill clinton polytpoliticalally will probably not hurt hillary. >> this is tweeted in: nearly all of the female democrats i know, want hilary clinton to be president. >> i am sure there are some, but if is as a smaller vote. >> what about the female vote? i know to show the viewers the concession speech from 2008 >> although we were not able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you it has 18 million cracks in it. and the light is shining through like never before, filling us all with the hope and sure knowledge that the path will be easier next time. >> next time? >> next time. that

can trust the whitehouse to implement it fairly. the other is a question of timely and when you do an issue like this that could divide the midterm party. we are likey to see it happen before the primary elections. but there is a window when the house republicans can take it up. they have passed five but none have been considered on the committee. >> the senate is working on the final version of the farm bim. what are the main details and are you heard about plans to try to defeat it? >> i think the farm bill is in safe territory. it has been a long and bumpy road after failing in the house. going through several interations but the major hurdle was passing the house last week. it seems fairly safe in the senate tomorrow. the stort of big changes is the ends the direct payments in which the government sent out $5 billion regardless of the weather or crop yield. it didn't prod farmers to plant any more of one kind of crop to get subsidies. but it wasn't politically poplar. they are beefing up the insurance for natural disasters. the

patel it was director of policy at the whitehouse under president obama. i started by asking her about the cbo's calculations: it uses dollar amount and then translates it to jobs. >> this really looks at projections for as they are called, the congressional budget office, budget implications and it's not the demand on jobs. it's exactly what you said. it's really looking at the supply of labor or, as the white house put it, kind of weather people choose to work or not. >> it does seem strange to me. does it seem strange to you regardless of what the number is? 2 million seems high. 2 million jobs between now and 2017, that people would choose not to work to keep their income medicare? >> it's also not clear. you are right to react that it seems strange. something else that's added in to this confusion is that people might not work in a full-time job because they might decide to take less hours or start a new business or do something different. so what we are not 100% sure of is if you are not taking a full-time equivalent job with benefits, are you doing

. >> i want to take the prerogative of the chair to observe in response to senator whitehouse's point that none of the oversight was adversarial in nature. which is why i propose the constitutional advocates. courts always do better when they hear both sides, the process is well served when there is contention as there was within this board. might just point out that the dissent by ms. brand says in commenting on whether the board should consider the legal question as you very thoughtfully observed and i'm quoting, this legal question will be resolved by the courts not by this board, which does not have the benefit of traditional adversarial legal briefing and is not particularly well suited to conducting de novo review of long-standing statutory interpretations. at least part of that observation can be said of the fisa court and of the legal review and perhaps factual review that's been conducted in this program. the oversight may have been numerically abundant, but as you observed, senator whitehouse, potentially lacking in quality. i'm going to have to go to the vote. senator white

our editor at large, cory johnson, and i spoke with whitehouse correspondent, phil mattingly and kenentsen, president and c.e.o. of securities industry in the financial markets association from new york. we began by asking phil, could this be a game changer? >> i think ken would have the perspective that this is a nice start but it is not anything that is really going to change the game, at least as it currently stands. it is a group of best practices, also a place where people with communicate and find best way to counter these cyber attacks. missing from this release, incentives to get big companies like the banks that are members of ken's organization to want to come in and participate. they have to pay for infrastructure. they have to be careful about sharing information. none of that is addressed here. until that is, it is going to be difficult for companies to jump all in. >> ken, what is your take on this plan? what kind of incentives are you looking for? >> i think i would be more robust than phil, not to contradict him. there is more that needs to be done including acts that

i yield back. >> thank you, senator whitehouse. i first of all want to come back to a point that mr. medine made that we should be immensely grateful to our intelligence community nor the courageous and able contribution they make to protecting our national security. and i said it yesterday when the armed services committee heard testimony from director clapper, we frequently emphasize the failings because we don't all see the successes. we should be mindful of the courage and dedication that they demonstrate day in and day out. ome of them in harm's way. i may be the only person on this committee who feels this way, that the ve disclosure that only 30% of these records are actually collected, and that the proportion has plummeted since 2006 is a real game changer. it calls into question the entire rational -- rationale for the metadata collection program. as a matter of process it really raises the question of credibility for the united states government in the representations that it has made to the fisa court, its failure to cor

senator whitehouse moves more quickly -- >> no, we'll go ahead. i'll let the chairman conclude the hearing. i would just note in reply that the great adverse relationship that the founding fathers built into the constitution was the adverse relationship between the legislative and the executive branches which they characterized as one of jealousy and rivalry that was to be harnessed for the good of the public. so i would hate to think that just because there wasn't a lawyer in the courtroom with a general public interest purpose that there was not adversarialness in all of this. there should have been, and the structure of our government creates that adversarialness. and if that has not been adverse enough, then that's our fault. but it's not fault of the lack of an additional lawyer in the courtroom at the fisa court. >> i don't think lawyers are necessary for adversarial contention. but i think your point is well taken, and i'm going to close the hearing, leave the record open for one week and, again, thank the panel for being here, for your ver

can trust the whitehouse to implement it fairly. the other is a question of timely and when you do an issue like this that could divide the midterm party. we are likey to see it happen before the primary elections. but there is a window when the house republicans can take it up. they have passed five but none have been considered on the committee. >> the senate is working on the final version of the farm bim. what are the main details and are you heard about plans to try to defeat it? >> i think the farm

. >> can you put a price tag on what this cost the whitehouse? >> i think it varies. you know, there are -- it takes a lot to put them on. it can be a little pricier than your average dinner party >> the president is going to be travelling to france for the 70th anniversary for the d-day invasion. let's go to georgia. good evening. >> good evening, caller. >> i am impressed by the protocol of you. i was a lucky person -- i am a united states citizen from pakist pakistan region. and i welcomed president in 1979. if there is a muslim guest, how do you serve them? >> if the head of state has dietary restrictions we know that way ahead of time. we work with their staff and find out if they have dairy sensitiveties or don't like b s brusle sprouts or something. >> is there an exchange of gifts and how is that determined? >> there is an exchange of gifts. the protocol office at the state department does of the work. they are amazing and spend months on doing their homework. what does steve like? what are his hobbies? what are his favorite foods? they dig around and find out

the last year in the whitehouse and the first years in retirement where, you know, they both had illnesss that almost killed him, he was always there for him. so the idea she wasn't strong -- i love when they were in africa in 1957, the temperature was over a hundred degrees. she was in a stinking market and it was almost intolerable. she was presented with this big ugly fish eye and the tradition was the guest ate it. she plopped it in her mouth andate it without flenching. i want to talk about the myth of them having a horrible marriage. i was in boston and i said i would like to do the nixon marriage and i was told that was the last thing i should do. but i didn't give up. i found an agent who said it is great idea. we celebrate extroverts and foster public displays of affection and we encourage the idea if is going through difficult times you can give up on it. so the american public has a hard time accepting the private relationship they have. they went through dark times and drove each other crazy. they had tough times like when they lost the election and 1962 when pat didn't want d

. >> the whitehouse condemn the >> woodruff: the white house condemned the violence, saying force will not resolve the crisis. >> woodruff: protests also turned deadly in thailand, where at least four people were killed and dozens hurt. gun battles broke out in bangkok when riot police tried to clear demonstrators from multiple sites. they've been demanding that the prime minister step down. tensions escalated in venezuela today after an opposition leader was arrested on charges of inciting unrest and violence. thousands of people flooded the streets, demanding the ouster of socialist president nicolas maduro. his supporters staged a counter- demonstration. in iraq, a string of car bombings left 49 people dead and 90 wounded. explosions hit mainly shi-ite sections of baghdad and in and around the southern city of hilla. the car bombs left wreckage and burned-out buildings in their wake. a police chief in hilla blamed an al-qaeda faction that's taken responsibility for previous attacks. an islamist group in egypt has claimed responsibility for sunday's bombing that targeted tourists. th

i am grateful it worked out so we can talk about the cybersecurity framework the whitehouse announced this week. we believe it is going to help the industry achieve grating levels of security around critical infrastructure. it allows companies of all sizes to adopt policies based on their specific threats by creating a common language or protocol, it will help communicate about shared responsibilities with vendors, suppliers, customers and partners. our industry takes these responsibilities very seriously. it is my honor to introduce michael daniel. a cybersecurity correspondent na and he leads the development of cybersecurity strategy and policy. prior to that, he served with the office of management and budget for 17 years. from 2001-2012, he shaped intelligence budgets and resolved major policy issues of the chief of the national security division. since 2007, mr. daniel has been involved in federal cybersecurity activities including the cybersecurity initiative and funding options and the review of federal cybersecurity spending. please join me in welcoming michael daniel who is g

whitehouse: thank you so much. i come to the floor today for the 57th consecutive week that the senate has been in session to urge my colleagues to wake up to what carbon pollution is doing to our atmosphere and oceans. i have described congress as surrounded by a barricade of lies. today i'll be more specific. there isn't just lying going on about climate change. there's a whole carefully built apparatus of lies. this apparatus is big and artfully constructed. phony baloney organizations designed to look and sound like they're real, messages honed by public relations experts to sound like they're truthful. payroll scientists whom polluters can trot out when they need them. and the whole thing, big and complicated enough that when you see its parts, you could be fooled into thinking that it's not all the same beast. but it is. just like the mythological hydra. many heads, same beast. so this speech is going to be about that beast. a recent research article published by dr. robert brule, a professor of sociology and

to stop tax haven abuse act proposed last september by senators carl levin mark baggage sheldon whitehouse and jeanne shaheen closing offshore corporate tax loopholes would provide nearly two hundred and twenty billion dollars in additional tax revenues over the next decade. back in one nine hundred fifty s. one nine hundred sixty s. when american businesses were doing just fine thank you very much corporate tax revenue was about six percent of g.d.p. today it's just over one percent. it's time to return to corporate tax policies that work for both businesses and for america if multi-billion dollar corporations like apple want to make money off we the people and they should be paying taxes to the united states they can't have it both ways they can't get rich off us and then screw us working class americans shouldn't have to face the burden of corporate tax loopholes that are letting corporations off the hook let's bring those offshore trillions back home and start rebuilding the american economy. and that's the way it is tonight tuesday feb eleventh two thousand and fourteen and don't forg

whitehouse. >> thank you, chairman. and thank you to all the witnesses. let me ask mr. mulligan from target, clearly you have a robust i.t. department. correct? >> yes. >> and clearly you had robust internet security. >> i hope for folks watching that this is an object lesson to the vulnerability we all have to a whole variety of internet penetrations. i think that target is an extraordinarily well-respected retailer and does a very , and if abusiness company like that can be hacked without knowing it, the wrong reaction is to say well, target must've done something wrong. the right reaction is to say my gosh, are we being hacked and do we not know it, to? i think we need to pay a lot more attention in that regard. as dangerous as this privacy breach was, as likely as it is to lead to criminal activity in the form of identity fraud, we can thank god that's you provide a vital retail service but you're not running the electric did -- electric grid or the servers behind all the banks and their financial systems. of our critical infrastructure run by the private sector tha

whitehouse: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from rhode island. mr. whitehouse: mr. president, let me thank the distinguished chairman of the veterans' committee for his remarks and for the relentlessness, the enthusiasm and the passion with which he has pursued putting together this extraordinarily strong bill for our veterans. i look forward to supporting it and i commend him for his excellent work. i'm here because every week that the senate is in session, now for 59 weeks, i give my climate speech hoping that someday spark will hit tinder. i could give a whole separate speech about the evil done by the supreme court citizens united decision and i could give a whole separate speech about the gridlock that bedevils the senate. but this week's climate speech will touch all three: citizens united, gridlock, and climate change. to show you how the three are connected. we fail here in this senate to address climate change because of the peculiar gridlock in congress. and congress is pe

senator whitehouse. >> thank you again, chairman. let me address myself briefly to the to law enforcement witnesses who we have here. the theft of intellectual property from american corporations purely across cyber networks by hacking into corporate networks and excavating their data has been described on multiple occasions as the greatest illicit transfer of wealth in history. has any indictment yet resulted from that conduct? foreign hackers purely through cybernetwork's hacking into an american corporations intellectual property and excellent trading it for competitive purposes. >> i will say, senator, that the threat that you described is one that we are very aware of and we are focused on. last year -- >> has there been an indictment of anyone in such a case? >> last year in a similar case there was an indictment of some of the corporation and about five of its executives. that's a chinese corporation and five of its executives, for stealing proprietary information of an american company. >> how have they stolen it? was a to a

whitehouse. >> thank you, chairman. and thank you to all the witnesses. let me ask mr. mulligan from target, clearly you have a robust i.t. department. correct? >> yes. >> and clearly you had robust internet security. >> i hope for folks watching that this is an object lesson to the vulnerability we all have to a whole variety of internet penetrations. i think that target is an extraordinarily well-respected retailer and does a very , and if abusiness company like that can be hacked without knowing it, the wrong reaction is to say well, target must've done something wrong. the right reaction is to say my gosh, are we being hacked and do we not know it, to? i think we need to pay a lot more attention in that regard. as dangerous as this privacy breach was, as likely as it is to lead to criminal activity in the form of identity fraud, we can thank god that's you provide a vital retail service but you're not running the electric did -- electric grid or the servers behind all the banks and their financial systems. of our critical infrastructure run by the private sector tha

i think we formed a - we are both journalists, we cover the whitehouse and are commercial. >> both sidese used pieces of the book for political ammunition to defend hillary clinton, those that defend and attack her. i just - the reviewer has a right to his opinion, we share it. >> we have a health care peace, where hillary clinton is very much advocating for health care. we are rallying the cabinet. i think both sides are taking the book and using what they want from it. >> there's a lot in the book adding to the debate. it's hrc state secrets and the rebirth of hillary clinton. it was great to have you both on the show. thanks for your time. >> back with more of "consider this". >> "tonight show" had 18 million viewers in its heyday, hosted by johnny carson. a generation that barely knows carson's name has more late-night fare to choose from. transitions to late-night television led to great debacles. will late night have another king? joining us now is someone that might know. dick cavett, the host of "the dick cavett show." he was a writer on "tonight show" with johnny carson, and the

plan, the average account balances for black and latino households are less than one-fifth that of whitehouse hold-- of whitehouseholds. if i'm not mistaken, one-fifth of $2,500 would be about 500 bucks of the so buried in this, keep in mind, unequal gender and racial inequality. addressing the issue of retirement security, again, would be particularly beneficial to women. we all know about the income gap between men and women. but what a lot of people don't realize is the gap worsens after retirement. when you think about it, you can understand that. the -- in 2011, the median annual income of older women -- that is, over retirement age -- keep this in mind, the median annual income was $14,225. the median annual income of that same core of older men was $24,794. now, why is that? well, you think about it. unequal pay during their working years allows -- means women have less opportunity to save. they may take some time off during their working years to start a family. they have less time to save. additionally, women tend to be concentrated in jobs that don't traditionally offer retirement p

in the whitehouse and public foursquare. i am talking about the most massive detest in history of edward snowden. and the avalanche published and broadcasted around the world. i will not dwell on the debate of edward snowden's morals or his irony of the nation he fled to. what i do want to speak to is the nation's senior intelligence officer is the profound damage his disclosures caused and will continue to cause. as a consequence, my view is the nation is less safe and the people are less secure. what he stole has gone way, way beyond domestic surveillance programs. we have lost critical intelligence sources including some shared by valued partners. terr terr terrorists are going to school on the united states trade craft and the insights they are gaining are making our job much harded. and this involves putting the lives of people at risk and the armed forces, diplomats and citizens. edward snowden for his part claims he has won and his mission is accomplished. if that is so, i call in him and his people to return the stol

>> as i recall senator whitehouse we learned of the program shortly before that. i can give you an exact date but i would put it as a month or several weeks before. >> why do you suppose that is essential to the authority to continually review all of these programs? why was it that you are not aware of this until just shortly before the? >> go ahead. >> our agency consists, before mr. medine was confirmed, our agency consisted of four part-time members who would work on pclob what about one day a week with no staff. so we were struggling merely to get started up so we're beginning to learn about programs, but we were nowhere near i think the volume of intake that we'll be at any future. i think that was part of it. >> so as far as you're concerned nothing was withheld from you. it was just they didn't have the aperture to grind through all the different programs speeded literally, senator. we had a briefing scheduled on 215 before the snowden leaks and literally the person was hit by a bus the weekend before he was due to brief us and had to cancel the briefing. h

> as i recall, senator whitehouse, we learned of the program shortly before that. i can't give you an exact date, @month or d put it several weeks before. -- put it at a month or several weeks before. >> why was it that you were not aware of this until just shortly before

more distant and it will be interesting to watch this meeting with netanyahu early in march at the whitehouse rose: thank you for coming. it's always great to see you. aluf benn, one of the wisest men who writes about politics and israel and certainly on national security policy. back in a moment. stay with us. >> you said install. you were going to be legal and that we weren't going to fake it. >> i'm being real now. this is who i am. i'm sydney prosper, okay. >> so why did you do anything after that. >> i'm sorry i didn't tell you. i created edith because i needed her to survive okay but i'm done with her now. i'm so done with that. >> rose: american usual is the latest movie by david o russell. it is a sweeping tale of a small time criminal conartist after the fbi snags some much bigger political initiate. it's after a scandal in the 1970's nominated for ten awe curs including nominations in all the major categories. here is the trailer for american hustle. >> i believe that you should treat people the way that you want to be treated. didn't you just say that. also, always take a favor ove

captioning sponsored by cbs snievment on face the nation house majority leader acre cantor and whitehouseridge closing scandal involving new jersey governor chris christie. with a former associate claiming there's evidence governor christy knew about those closed traffic lanes on the george washington bridge earlier than he said he did, christy goes on the offensive. we'll talk to christie and who is leading the brain closing scandal. house republicans met to plot their own plans for 2014. immigration reform emerged as a priority setting theta

the whitehouse was very good about calling in that former national security advisors and having a verypen candid discussion. >> rose: so you have a chance to express your views and the president listens and then he makes a decision he thidz -- hs is appropriate which is exactly what you want him to do. >> exactly right. one of the things i enjoyed the most and i think the president and the vice president did as well is this council of former national security advisors that we called in every quarter or so. >> rose: every three or four months. >> every three or four months. and generally we get eight or nine, sometimes seven or eight national security advisors served all administrations and there wasn't one partisan comment in talking about the -- >> rose: different points of view but not partisans. you and -- >> kissinger. >> rose: colin powell, all of them being secretary of state. >> exactly. >> rose: that's been going on during the obama administration. the president meeting with the national security advisor every three or four months and saying is it conducted by the president or