that's gary wilder. past being a tenant in one of the buildings that you're a super at, where do you recognize that man from? running from the apartment where sonja hudson was robbed and-and raped and beaten. [ sighs ] are you gonna arrest him? we're gonna work on that right now. i'm not walking out of this building unless you put him under arrest! so you could become like a station house mascot? cameron, what you just did took balls. and i respect you for it. we'll talk to the d.a. now. cohen's riding. i saw him about 10 minutes ago heading for the third floor. yeah. good. what's that about? you got a minute for us, detective? well, all the interview rooms are tied up then. well, maybe you can take it downstairs? - sure. - okay. you got a minute, cohen? being how no one else chooses to converse with me. what's going on, detective? i'm the last person to ask about that. can you get the suspect to stand in a lineup? lawyered up. very strong i.d. from the witness. he's a super. the perp's a tenant at one o

wilder. g my son is a crime, captain you're over the line. like mr. wilder won't be satisfied grounding drew. it's not like we're out of our jurisdiction. no, we just visiting a friend. if mr. wilder's beating his son we'll chuck him out the window. there we might run into a few problems. hey, drew, you okay? where's your father? in the house. i told him not to hit me. i told him a bunch of times. you'll be in a body c ct by then. then i might as well dropkick your face right now and get the whole thing over with. or we could call a truce. a trucuc you mean, you'd stop coming after me and i get the mcquaids to lay off you? yeah, a truce. i figure you have enough trouble being the biggest dweeb in school. i don't think so. i like the situation the way it is. but i'll let you know, okay? hey, guys. you guys want to see a movie? sometime? we got bad news. we're moving. penhall: old man got transferred. transferred? you can't leave. i'm sorry, but that just won't be possible. we can't protect you for the rest of your life. learn to take care of yourself.

to orient you, the wilderness is off in that direction off in the far corner. they're going to head down the brock road here to spots sylvania which is going to be in this area here. and as grant makes that decision to go left and south, his men realize there's no turning back. grant is holding true to his word. and they cheer wildly with the wilderness burning around them as the army withdraws down the brock road towards spots sylvania. lee realizes he's got to block grant. he sends his cavalry to delay the union advance. the union's going to send their cavalry to try to flush him out and they fail. by the time grant gets to pods tavern, an he finds his troopers spread out in the field sleeping. george gordon mead, commander of the army starts kicking butts, get up, clear that road. where is your commander in phil sheridan. nobody knows where phil sheridan is. when sheridan finally comes galavanting into camp, he's irate because mead had the gall to order his own troopers around. imagine that and the two get into an explosionive argument. two both of them have

of, lili, to unwind and experience the wild, and now there's a mine happening on the edge of the wildernessand d it's diluting every experiencece that the people are getting here. >> if hundreds of rhinos arare killed for their horn, the popupulation can be reestablished as long as enough are saved. but if the park is polluted with toxic mine waste, this last refuge of the rhino will be lost forever. >> where our concern lies is with respect to dust, because there's no analysis of the dust, in terms of the toxic components within that dust, given the coal mining, and the blasting, and thatat sort ofof thing. now, y you can feel this w wind. this wind is blowing across us right into the game reserve. so, they mine here, this southeastern wind will carry the dust, and the fallout will be in the park, in the wilderness area. >> if it goes ahead, the coal mine wiwill be right against the boundary fence of the park. this community of 1,200 peoplee will be forcrcibly relococated off the land. another coal mine opened in 2007, 10 kililometers away from the villllage, and people here already fall s

it's a wilder start to the today. 49 at logan airport right now. the dew point's in the mid 40s, the wind from the south, mild right

>> i think it's about right and reflects his be wilderment, that here's a guy that is very

the wilderness means two things. and it's your party is not in power and it means you are not holding one of the leading positions in your party and light lead to succeed if your party wins. those were not very long but two of them were longish. >> host: in your book, you reprint the speech from 1946. i have now stated the two great dangers which menaced the homes of warring tierney. what is the tierney part of this? >> guest: well, churchill had a sophisticated understanding of politics. i teach aristotle here and read a lot of aristotle. one marveled at how consistent with how the classics thought about categories and churchill thinking was. tierney three of them were good. then bad in the secondary way. the good rule is the monarchy and the bad rule is tierney and tierney is the worst and it is a role in the interest of the rulers. not the rule of. it is all powerful and is one of them. aristotle in book five, chapter 11, very worth reading. everyone should read that today. he describes the tyrant has to do to rem

buddy, i am ready to drive you into the wilderness any time you want and leave you there.

was he in the wilderness? >> he was. he only met harry truman once. but in the middle of the conference the votes were counted and they took over for him. with an enormous change that happened in world affairs between july 1945 and a february 1946 in the truman administration because that the decision that they thought they would stand up to contain the soviet union. and the fulton speech there is the part and a postscript in the hand of harry truman. so please come. said he was there in a heartbeat and that turned out to be part of the plan by truman to be developed with churchill that is now the cold war. >> host: how many times did winston churchill spent in the wilderness road his career? >> oddly enough there was one dirty one -- 1931 through 1939 a shorter 145 through 51 then the rest were three years or under. that means the party is not empowered and it means you don't hold one of the leading positions of your party if your party wins. but two of the word along. >> host: president larry arnn did your book you reprint his speech for 1946 i have

went out in the wilderness to build the great spiderweb of steel rails, the trans-continental railroads that span our country. as these men went out in the wilderness and toiled and inched their way across the vast bosom of america. (audience laughs) but this wasn't just a fun job. there was dangers in this job as they built the railroads up the mountains and down the mountains, and in the, across, uh, the deserts and o'er, over raging river, and they had to span 'cravisses', deep 'cravisses' in the ground, and in the bottom of the 'cravisses', there was 'pewmas'. (audience laughs) with claws and foam coming out these 'pewmas' mouths, and the, and the railroad men, they're going: "woo, look at those 'pewmas' down there! (audience laughs) (audience laughs) "i'm not gonna build - stop it, stop it, stop yourself. - any railroad across the 'craviss', there's 'pewmas' in the 'craviss'! (audience laughs) - what do you think you're doing? there were no pumas in the crevasses because we don't have pumas here. there are no pumas in america. (audience laughs) - well, maybe some came over to visit

a hiker stranded for days in the wilderness is rescued. after a huge search effort. harvey: imagine, frosty cold early this morning. a look at the temperatures in the middle of the country. what a change. we will get some of that change. how much it will warm up, coming up. j.c.: we continue to follow breaking news. an elderly woman tied up during a home invasion in sterling. the suspects still on the loose right now. much more on this as it fios is not cable. we're wired differently. so we wired the wagner's house with 100 meg internet. which means in the time it takes mr. wagner to pour a 20 oz. cup of coffee, tommy can download 30 songs, and jan can upload 120 photos. 12 seconds. that's the power of fiber optics. this is your last chance to get super fast 100meg internet, tv and phone for just $69.99 per month online. this is your final week to get this great deal. announcer: you're watching newscenter 5 at 4:30. there's traffic on the feeder roads, and the bunker hill bridge. here's the good news. it's a beautiful day. put the windows down and enjoy the ride. it

before wilder and all of these other people were talking about it there was this. we talked about the mexican heritage the native heritage. what is happening here now. let's go up to a place it's really special to me. the longest ongoing with the early 19 hundreds. were talking about ecology and environmental research. we one of the oldest research it is a location close to urban areas. how is our ecology in urban environments. how have things done that. right now we talk about how we don't -- how we want this place to be loved and protected. there is no doubt. tomorrow some areas that are being looked at a little bit more closely because their health is in peril. it's more important than ever that they should be there but it's also important for the connection to the community. for people to understand that research is happening. for people to understand that means our backdoor ecology is just as important as any place else. >> she spent where history unfolds daily. in 1979 c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies. in has brou

if the prophet could walk through this wilderness, then we're going to run. i thought i'd have to keep cheering them up, pushing them along. what do you expect? kooks, dreamers, failures, hmm? ? okay, hank, let's go. s go over here! ? hank, come on back, we've got enough! i just want to see, that's all! ? it's the mountains of the moon. it's gotta be. it's gotta be. it's just like the prophet said. you mean we're gonna walk all the way up there? hank, i'd crawl on my hands and knees to get there. once in my life i'm gonna make it. i'm gonna do it. do what? make that trip! we're here for so many reasons, from religion to lousy jobs. but i'm gonna make the real trip. e in. i'm gonna finally shh shh, look! i've never seen a colt that beautiful. dutch farmers brought 'em here about 100 years ago. d. the prophet says that even ththnatives are afraid of them. you know why? no! they can't c cch 'em. he's beautiful. can you imagine?! even in a place like this! wild horors! i'm gonna catch him! ? hank! you can't! ? you alright? who is it? i don't know who it is, hank.

if flames jump this road, firefighter will plunge into a new wilderness. >> you get a little wind shift or a change in temperature, and the fire behavior just responds accordingly, and it can escalate very quickly. >> reporter: you're working against a drought, low humidityity, and lots of leaves which become like fuel. >> we have to establish our line and pretty much clean it every day as the new leaves continue to fall. >> reporter: from space, you can see spoke from fires burning in seven states, burning more than 100,000 acres. 5,000 more expertise from western states, are working around the clock. near lake laura, north carolina, the party rock fire has charred more than 4500 acres and frightened evacuees like theresa wheeler. >> you just don't know what you're going to come or what you're going to hear next or come home to. your fear is that you'll lose everything you have. >> reporter: one of the goals is to prevent this wildfire from spreading deeper into the wilderness and into north meteorologists working with these firefighters say there is no significant rain in the forecast

unesco,now, before before wilder, before these people were talking about, there was this. >> that's incredible. talked about the mexican, the native heritage, the gorgeous -- what next? what is happening in tucson now? >> let's go out to a place that is special to me. resa the longest ongoing earch, goes back to the early 1900s, 1903. we are talking about ecology, environmental research. desert ecology. one of the oldest ongoing suorar o research. location close to an urban area is what is also becoming increase in the important, because you now, how is our ecology in an urban environment? how have -- how are these suoraros doing? lovenow, we talk about our for this area. place toe want this be loved and protected. the environment is really important to us. with climate change things are changing. it is more important than ever that they can be there. itss also important for connection to the community, for people to understand that is happening. for people to understand that that means our ecology, our city environment is just as important as any place else. >> this weekend, we are featuring

of the wilderness. that added to it. >> that's the way she plays. >> she is tough. >> a lot of people who don't follow it closely. what happened 63 seats lost. 62 of them are moderate and conservatives. the shrinking. the shrinking of the caucus in a weird way made her stronger because it's more liberal. >> they did grow a little bit. >> six seats, but if you look at the broad, they lost one out of every five states they held. about 19% of the seats. most of those are the gene taylors of the world. i think we focus on her because she is the leader, but you have to take it in a trio. pelosi and clyburn. 76, pelosi, 77 hoyer. i looked this up this morning. both pelosi and hoyer were elected in the 80s. people who have been here a long time. paul ryan is 46. >> literally, the pelosi hoyer feud started before you and i were born. >> it goes way back. >> i feel like because she doesn't want to let him be leader, he doesn't want to give her the satisfaction of leaving. they hold on for dear life. don't you th

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he knows it could plunge into the wilderness. >> and you just get a change in temperature and the fire and can escalate very quickly. >> you work against a drought, low humidity and lots of leaves which become fuel. >> we have to establish our lines and pretty much clean it every day as the leaves continue to fall. >> reporter: from space, you can see fires burning in seven states burning more than 100,000 acres. 5,000 firefighters, many with more expertise from western states are working around the clock. in north carolina, the fire has charred more than 40,000 acres. >> you just don't know what you will hear next or come home to. you fear you will lose everything you have. >> reporter: one of the goals is to stop this wildfire from spreading further into the wilderness and into north carolina. what would help is rain. but meteorologists working with these firefighters say there is no significant rain in the forecast until christmas. scott? >> mark strassman, thank you. treasure, kitchen waste is now powering navy jets. >>> and later, from man to mannequin. ? ? one day a rider made a

. >> right now we are standing in what's called wilder bowl. this is where a demonstration will be taking place at 4:30. oberlin is a sanctuary city but donald trump says sanctuary cities and they will double down and make sure if there are undocumented immigrants they will want be deported as best they can. live in oberlin, harry boomer, cleveland 19. >> mark: thank you very much. here is what's coming up on cleveland 19 news at 4:00. >> romona: ever wish you could take the carbs out of your pasta? lots of people are doing it. the recent trend coming up. >> mark: an uptick in crime at university circle may be >>> i love at cleveland's newscenter driven by don joseph toyota in kent, this is cleveland 19 news. >>> there's been an uptick in crime at the university circle today. allison brunner is getting answers on whether overgrown trees are to blame. >> neighbors tell me that's part of the problem. a meeting with university circle police and his team is meeting with other police departments that come up with a list of afternoon the newest arres

then the peaceful beauty of camping in the maroon bells snowmass wilderness is no longer a secret. what the forest says they're planning to do should be within reach. that anything that matches your taste can match your budget. that green living doesn't have to cost much green. we believe that you should always have room for the little things. and that your dream kitchen should work as hard as you do. was arrested and could be facing charges after protesting the pipeline construction in north dakota. the demonstrators call themselves water protectors. they say the pipeline would ruin sacred burial sites and could possibly contaminate drinking water in the missouri river. yesterday--protes tors did a sit in in the judicial wing of the capitol building 14 of them were arrested for disorderly conduct. the forest service is looking for your input on how to deal with the maroon bells snowmass area's growing popularity. overnight camping on the trails has more than doubled since 2007. because of the influx-- there are plans to define camping zones. the forest service says if certain leve

amy showed me a compelling study that demonstrated the cognitive benefit of spending time in the wilderness. buddy, i am ready to drive you

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so far more than six square miles of mountain wilderness has burned.the steep and rugged conditions have made it difficult to fight the fire that investigators believe was intentionally set.residents have held vigils praying for rain, and many have taken shelter in a local church.so many people have donated to the makeshift shelter, volunteers say they don't need this morning, the u-s forest service will set up a command center in the area. a strong, new earthquake with a magnitude of six-point-two struck new zealand's south island.. just hours after a more powerful quake killed two people there. the quake triggered landslides and collapsed a house on new zealand's south island.roads were split open and police got reports of minor injuries. new this morning - milwaukee police are investagiting two shootings that happened in the happened just before five a-m on 32nd and rogers.. a 22- year-old man was walking into a house when he was shot. the second happened three hours later on 64th and silver spring.. here a man was walking into a store when someone drove by and shot him. both victims

the slowing that just showed up seconds ago is eastbound around gateway or wilder.is may be an area in the report we'll track this. we'll end with a quick look at the north bay. there is nothing up there, as well. we are looking at low visibility. this is highway 1. >> thank you very much. >>> 5:23. coming up, a show stopper, literally. kanye calls off his concert after a weekend full of controversy. >>> the incident has some of the fans asking for their money back. >>> before you move out of a rental, consumer investigator has advice to save you money. >> if you're moving out of a rental, you're entitled to an inspection with the landlord before you vacate. that way you can both agree on repairs that are needed. kanye west .. not exactly a huge hit these days with his concert-going fans. you probably remember last week's lengthy rant during his >>> kanye west not exactly a huge hit with his concert-going fans. last week's lengthy rant during a san jose gig and some people walking out. last night in l.a., kanye west never made it to the stage. he pulled a last-minut

if this continues they will plunge into a new wilderness. >> then you just get a wind quickly. >> you're working against a drought, low humidity, and lots of leaves. >> we have to establish our line and then pretty much clean it every day as the new leaves continue to fall. >> from space, you can see smoke from seven states, burning more than 100,000 acres. 5,000 firefighters, many with expertise from many states are working around the clock. in north ro rock fire has charred more than 25,000 acres, and scared people like teresa wheeler. >> you just don't know what you will come home to. >> one of the goals is to stop the wildfire from spreading into north carolina, what will help is rain, but meteorologists working with the firefighters say there is no significant rain in the forecast until christmas. >>> coming up next, from trash to treasure, kitchen waste is now powering heavy jets. >>> and then later, from man to my cold medicines' wearing off. that stuff only lasts a few hours. or, take mucinex. one pill fights congestion for 12 hours. guess i won't be seeing you for a while. why t

mike, john the baptist in the wilderness, he ate locusts and honey.rness a little bit. because i was wrong. a lot of people were wrong. nobody else made the promise i did. i'm hoping that we can get back to data and thinking thoughtfully about policy and issues. having said that and saying good morning to everyone out there on both sides, see this. here it goes. okay. >> you're a man of your word, dr. wong. how was it by the way? >> kind of mostly honeyish. a little nutty. if it's good enough for a snake. >> tastes like chicken. >> i don't know. >>. >> crunchy. >> melania trump has big shoes to fill in the first lady of michelle obama. >> melania was a professional model. it is michelle on the cover of this week's vogue magazine. it reads the first lady that the world fell in love with. >> will melania trump be a model first lady? here's jeanne moos with that. >> she's been a model, she's done commercials. >> aflac. >> she may seem like an odd duck for a first lady but melania trump is just like us. at least on first glance at her facebook where she p

must everybody. >> soul-searching is a quadrennial exercise and a reckoning of the wilderness designedrt a path back to power. years ago with the republicans turn. >> her message was weak. our ground game is insufficient. we weren't inclusive. >> democrats will tank with digital data and grabbed him and navigate tensions between the liberal brain personified by bernie sanders in the more conservative segments of leadership that back hillary clinton. >> this is a democratic party that is raised more money than fair. and it is lost over a thousand seats. that is because the democratic party in the last eight years has been solely focused on building a structure and mechanism to let secretary clinton. they killed the party and the need to take responsibility. >> some have been diagnosing problems for two years. >> the people who have no voice could always count on the democratic party to be talking about those issues, economic fairness issues protect really. it is kind of up for grabs these days. the democratic readiness to get back on the message. >> democrats must address the generation

. >> host: when he gave the iron curtain speech that was the and the wilderness at that point? gimmicky only met harry truman once. and then the takeover and then the enormous change happened with the world affairs between july 1945. in the tremendous penetration because the chairman of administration but to contain the soviet union. end to the president for westminster college in as a post script and then the police so churchill was there and that is part of the plan and then for the cold war. >> host:, a time did he spend thraw his career? >> guest: oddly enough from 1921 through 39 but shorter 145 through 51 and the rest this is a means a your party is not in power and you were not holding one of the leading positions of your party if your party wins. >> host: in your book you print the speech i have now stated the two great dangers that menace the homes of the people, war and tyranny but. >> guest: churchill had dade different view of politics. but one marvels at how often assistant he thought with those political categories. then there are six pdf forms of government categ

and whave a couple of other problems westbound 24 the wilder off-ramp is closed because of an earlier accident pushed off. they are expecteted a tow truck. the sensors have returned to green with no major delays. first reports of a an accccent northbound 280 in san francisco near ocean avenunue blocking the left lane. weill come back in a few minutes with an update. >> cyber monday is here and a lot of you have sight on digital deals. amazon is expecting t busiest cyber monday. ever. amy hollyfield is in tracy. amy hollyfield? >> good morning, reggie. look at size of this place, it is humming right along. early this morning. 1.1 million square feet and they are expecting to be the basketball day. they say lasast year they had 69 orders per second. they think it will be bigger this year. they hired more employees to get through the season. look what sells giving employees a boost robots are bringing the pructs helping to keep the place moving. >> it will take minutes from when a customer place as order to weapon it is going out the door. opposed to hours. it speeds up the these robots

he actually ran to the only ranch in montana that borders on the bob marshall wilderness area, 20000res and probably the most beautiful ranch i've ever seen. it was homesteaded by his grandfather in 1882. both his grandfather and his father didn't ever believe in modern conveniences, so even when electricity and water came in they did not have it picked the denver foundation by hand. they used-- went carl was young they did all that and this begins with him, so this is an incredibly hard existence that they lived in, so i'm starting with talking about his father, john. john drapeau kept his family afloat by trapping leader, maintain muskrat for the european market and paying cash for land others abandon, never more than 25 cents an acre. he also trapped a lot of grizzlies. he got to realize times were different back then, says carl. of those guys were trying to scrabble out a living on a 5-dollar steer. they had to run every blade of grass they could just to keep their families going and if a bear killed a family milk cow, that was it. then, the federal government dumped them yellows

. - a millions of acres of rugged wilderness that's mostly untouched and unexplored. - you just don't know what's going to be around the bend. - oh, my gosh, dude. i was not expecting that cliff. this is wrangell - st. elias national park. i mean, this is hefty. look at that. and it all starts right now. - whoo-hoo!

fire for the history books because it is unlike fires which had been largedly contained to the wilderness are i /i now threatening populated areas in eastern tennessee -- including the popular tourist town of gatlinburg, where flames damaged resorts and forced the evacuation of an estimated 14-thousand residents and visitors.cooper says: "we were in our cabin preparing supper and we heard a knock at the door and it was a policeman and said that he would recommend we leave because the fire was getting close to where the cabin that we could gather up and put in the truck and came down here." the fires are also affecting the neighboring town of pigeon forge -- home to dolly parton's popular theme park. dollywood's official twitter account announced that it's suspending park operations on wednesday due the the fires. nats "hold off on burning leaves. tie up chains on trailers to avoid sparks. don't park vehicles on dry grass. even a cozy campfire could spark a wildfire." one day before her was evacuated b i /i /b the country star appeared with smoky bear in a public service announcement to ur

the peaceful beauty of camping in the wilderness is no longer a secret. it's spectacular. we understand why people want to go. >> before it becomes more crowded, the forest service wants to make a couple changes. overnight, camping on those trails has machine than doubled nothere are plans to define camping zones. if levels are exceeded of visitors, there may be mandatory overnight permits. the forest service is looking for comments and thoughts about this they want to hear from people. they're inviting them to a meeting later this month. >> it makes me want to go visit. >> i've been. it's incredible. >> it's 5:39 right now. it doesn't look like ski season in the mountains in many places because of mild w ski season will be in full swing today. we'll tell you what to expect from the ski and snow board expo coming up. . >> i wouldn't put them in elite category. >> broncos are talking about facing the phase united states raiders on -- phasing the . >>> the city of chicagoil the parade for the chicago cubs is today. they've won their first world series title since 1908. the p

the team with the then wilder there to be great situation on the road they see number six washington. so far, devils down 3-0. next week sun devils and wildcats square off into some. arizona going through a brutal stretch losing seven in a row, still searching for league win number one. cats under the lights against the beavers in corvallis. number two ohio state in a battle against michigan state. buckeyes go 69 yards and four place. mike weber lasting led 17 - 10. lj smith makes it a one point game. spartans go for two but tyler o'connor gets kicked off by chris whirley. buckeyes hang on 17-16. williams field blackouts knocking off queen creek. senior running back evan price embracing every second of the team's championship run. at one point the senior did not know if he would ever play just to warn individuals in this story the story are very graphic. >> wide to the left price able to sidestep one defender, nasty stiff arm. oh my goodness. >> at first i didn't know i thought i sprained my ankle and until the trainer to tape it up. i didn't feel anything but once i realize what happ

he had just left the chancellorship and beginning his wilderness years. he was traveling as a private citizen. he and randolph and his brother jack were on this wonderful trip around the country. he spent time in the canadian rockies and down the west coast and hollywood and meeting all of the hollywood people, staying with william randolph hearst in california. he was here very briefly. ahead, then ing will come back, he took that round-trip on the boeing 314. twice --94380 come 1943 did he come twice in the same year. i am convinced that has to do with me. i was hatched in this town in april of 1943. winston came to check me in may and back in august to make sure all was well. sadly, i don't remember these. i wish i did. i was living in cleveland park. -- we to talk next about have used that slide. there we go. visits to congress and parliament specifically, the canadian parliament. on three of his trips, he addressed a joint session of congress. unusual.ssing one is we heard about that first one where he made the great statement where if his father had

the trouble is, the remote wilderness has inspired a felon. >> there is a rope for that stuff, you know? >> reporter: eight mule deer shot dead and discarded by poachers. >> that's crazy. it's an egregious violation. >> reporter: those responsible facing at least eight felony counts. >> poaching is where people basically masquerade as a hunter to take animals illegally. so in this case, they shot the animals and left them lay. there were a couple of instances where they took some of the meat from the animal and even some antlers but for the most part they were left. >> reporter: while the deerre are punted all of the time legally in our mountains, it's the way it went down that's so disturbing to investigators, who call this nothing short of a thrill kill. now a $3,000 reward is being offered through operation game thief. that tip line is set up. nielsen said all investigators need is one lead. >> usually people that are involved in something like this can't shut their mouth. are talking to friends or family or maybe something has overheard a conversation at a bar or at a steer, and tho

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what advice would you have for people who are in the wilderness right now and trying to figure out what to do now. do they go all in on obstruction? there are very few options in the house. the republicans found a way to define themselves in opposition to obama in 2009 and 2010. then they won the house. >> i am generally not in the habit of giving tactical advice to the other side. not sure they would take it. >> maybe you should not. a counter program. >> i think this is good for government. absolutely true that the andblican minority in 2009 2010 became defined by how we were opposing the president. i think two mistakes about that, i would not necessarily draw a direct line between that and gaining the majority in 2010. there is kind of an untold story or miss told in some cases about how we got to that. president-elect obama came in and met with the bipartisan congressional leadership. the first item on the agenda was a stimulus package. he told john boehner and eric cantor, we want your ideas. we took him at his word. he was serious about that. we went back and had this huge interna