host: we are back with bipartisan policy center senior vice president willie -- william hoagland. he is discussing the debt limit of the debate over how to raise it and more on how the u.s. amassed a $31 trillion debt. guest: good to be with you. host: tell us more about the bipartisan policy center and the work you guys are doing to educate people about debt and deficit. guest: the bipartisan policy center was established 15 years ago. it was established by four former majority leaders in the united states senate. the late senator paul -- bob dole and howard baker on the republican side, senator george mitchell and another senator on the democrat side. as the name would apply -- implied, -- imply, we try to approach major issues and find coming ground. we believe the most sustainable types of policy in the country are those that are done in a bipartisan way. tough issues as it relates to, we have covered a number of it --areas. we have developed a reputation for that organization that provides an independent assessment as to this issue we are dealing with today called the x date

william hoagland.ell us more about the bipartisan policy center and the work you are doing to educate people about debt and deficit. guest: the bipartisan policy center was established 15 years ago by 4 former majority leaders of the u.s. senate, the late senator bob dole and howard baker, then tom mitchell. as the name would imply, there is something called a bipartisan policy center. we tried to approach major issues and find common ground, because we do believe some of the most sustainable types of policy in this country are those done in a bipartisan way. tough issues as it relates to -- we cover a number of areas including ing-wen migration and health care issues but on fiscal policy issues we have developed a reputation for that organization that provides an independent assessment as to this issue we are dealing with today called the x date when the federal government will exhaust all of its resources available to pay its bills. host: i know it is a not certain date. it shifts. what do you think

your call >> good morning , we're back with the bipartisan policy center senior vice president william hoagland discussing the debt limit, the debate over how to raise it and more on how the us on asked of $31 trillion debt. the morning. >> guest: good to be with you. >> host: thank you for returning to washington journal. tell us about the bipartisan policy center at the work you guys are doing to educate people about debt and deficits. >> guest: thank you. the bipartisan policy center was established 15 years ago by 4 former majority leaders in the senate the late senator bob dole and howard baker on the rollicking side, tom daschle on the democratic side and as the name would imply, it's a little hard to believe in washington there's something called the bipartisan policy center we tried to approach major issues and find common ground because we believe some of the most sustainable policies are those done in a bipartisan way of issues related to a number of areas. energy, immigration and on fiscal policy there are issues that fiscal policy we have developed a little reputation for that organ

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