when you have people like william lambert, george debaptiste, william webb, hadson lightfoot -- madison lightfoot, i mean, you can go on and on in terms of these pioneering abolitionists. they were joined at some extent by the white abolitionists, many of them being quakers because we in lambert had been schooled and educated and lived among the quakers when he left trenton, new jersey, and arrived in detroit. he, for me, is just a phenomenal be individual because he was like one of the main conductors of the underground railroad. i know in my classes in new york city when i talk about the underground railroad, the first thing it brings to their mind is a train, you know, the d train. [laughter] you know, coulson whitehead has done his thing in terms of the metaphorical treatment of the underground railroad. but this was a process, the biway in which, you know, these here fiewblgtive slaves -- fugitive slaves could get away from bondage, get away from the so-called peculiar institution and end up in detroit. so this here, ed dwight's sculpture, it symbolizes the people. and certainly af