joining me here in the studio tc s today's impeachment trial are jami floyd, host and legal editor at wnyc, new york public radio, and ryan goodman, co-editor-in-chief of security. jami, let me start with you, the defense.ar what did we l today? this was supposed to be a trailer? >> yes, i like thaphrase. you go to the movies and you get a little sneak peek, and that's pretty much wh they did. they outlined wat will be their rebuttal to the argument to remove president trump from office. they laid out why they say the president did not violate the law. he was acting in his presidential capacity, theyy sa, and anything that he did was not an i oeachabense. and they addressed, in prequel fashion, both articles of impeachment. idand then they , you know, we'll sit down for today and come back at you monday with a more detailed rebuttal. >> sreenivasan: so, in this, ryan, one of the central ntentions that they have is that what you've been hearing for three days over 24 hours is an incomplete set of facts. what are they talking about? what ithe new information that the democrats have been hing

here's what she told wnyc at the time. >> you look around at this district and it's so diverse. how is it that just, like, five irish dudes handed the seat to each other for the last 50 years? how is that even... i mean, it's possible in new york. i'm going to get myself in trouble. >> mark: nothing has changed. now she's infuriating party leaders by refusing to contribute to the party's congressional campaign war chest because she's deemed many of our colleagues insufficiently socialist. one democrat aide reacted to this by calling her a "deadbeat." aoc implied that she and joe biden don't belong in the same political party. professor jason nichols is a democrat and he joins us now. professor, aoc and joe, do they belong in the same party? >> what i think aoc was trying to say is that in another country where you have six or seven political parties, she and joe biden would obsolete not be in the same political party. but in a two-party system, where you have to have broad tents where you have a tea partier and evangelicals in the same party, yes, they have to be in the same par

bernstein is a veteran journalist and co-host of the podcast, conveniently, trump inc produced by wnyc public radio here in new york. it's so interesting that that puts the story in this book into circulation. tell the immigration story of the kushners. why it's germane to who he's become and would he ever have been the organic job choice for the role he's in? >> so jared kushner's grandparents were holocaust survivors. and they survived nazi germany, living some of the time in the forest in poland camping ourkts hiding out from the nazis. they fled the soviet union, which it was then, and ended up in italy in a displaced persons camp. could not get a visa to the united states or anywhere. they were stuck stateless. they struck upon this idea where jared kushner's grandfather would take on his father-in-law's name. he was born bergowitz and changed it to joe kushner. as such, taking on the role of his father-in-law's son, he and his family were able to emigrate to america. >> and why is that germane, on the toing of immigration, to what jared kushner has become? >> i don't think there'