wolff. mr. wolf, i just software they showed an excerpt from your book where you stated about the charlottesville -- i was wondering where you saw the whole video where he condemns everybody. i was curious if you sold that saw the whole video. guest: i have, yes. caller: so why didn't you put the whole thing in there, except just when he said there is find people on both sides. this man has been called a racist over a fallacy, and you know that. but you keep going with the same thing. have a great day, mr. wolff. guest: thanks. host: brenda, go ahead. guest: good morning. where there any wellsprings or rumors in the white house that donald trump might issue a blanket pardon tell the people that were in the capitol on january 6? it's my understanding that jimmy carter issued a blanket pardon to all the draft dodgers that avoided the vietnam war, so it seems as though a blanket pardon is possible. did trump ever consider a blanket pardon of all his loyal support of soldiers, or did he just lea

wolff.mike pence was met by a respectful and even warm crowd during his first trip to iowa since the election. he was clapped at in des moines. he was 'honorable'and a 'man of faith' people said. one may call him a consistent conservative voice. but few people said that what they saw in pins was the republican nominee -- saw in pence was the republican nominee. in the most recent cpac straw poll, pence flatlined. he was heckled and called a traitor in florida last month." back to our conversation on the budget and government spending and the plan to take up an infrastructure package. rob portman of ohio critical of the majority leader's plan. here is what he said. [video clip] >> you and your colleagues are working through the weekend to try to finalize the infrastructure bill. will it be ready by wednesday? >> we are still working on it. it is more important to get it right then to meet an arbitrary deadline and we are still negotiating. in fact, last night, i was negotiating final details

back with michael wolff. he's calling the guy he nominated to be on the supreme court totally disgraced, i mean it's fascinating. >> well, it's just that he lives in a quid pro quo world. and he put him on -- not only did he put him on the court which would have been enough. if i put you on the court you should be loyal to me. >> you're my guy. just like sessions was supposed to be his attorney general. >> exactly. but here's a guy who he felt he rescued. because he got into trouble, he saved him. so double. he couldn't believe that at the end of the day the justice kavanaugh didn't say you won the election. >> you write about his life down in mar-a-lago, and i want to read that out. you said, "trump has his dinner here most evenings. he appears just as the patio has filled at which point everyone stands and applauds. often when melania is here they eat alone at a roped-off table in the center looked at somewhat like zoo animals. no, no, that's not right. they're like a newly married couple. every night there

michael wolff has written three books about trump.he trump presidency," there you see the cover. michael thank you so much for joining us. i want to read your description of the former president leading up to january 6th. you write this. how far had he trump left reality and to what extent had the government eitself become a charade to support the delusion, not the delusion would ever become reality, but the checks and balances of government would not discourage it either. the president would just simply float, disconnected, out there. give us some insight into how you came up with that. >> you know, what really happened here after november 3rd, after election day by saturday, november 7th, almost everybody, not almost, literally everybody around the president, people in the white house, people in the campaign, people in his own family had come to the conclusion that, number, one, donald trump had lost this election. number two, whatever donald trump did would not change that outcome. so effectively, it was just donald trump, donald t

this hour michael wolff has been every where this week.or but i have gquestions you haven't heard yet. >>> is media coverage of covid-19 injuring the vaccination effort. we have a provocative take in a few minutes. >>> later, what is it like to interview this guy, tucker carlson, and what is with this photo shoot? i'll speak with charlotte alter about that and more. perry bacon jr., susan glasser all standing by. >>> first, the biden white house calling out the misinformation machine, accusing facebook of killing people by letting anti-vaccine lies linger on the platform. it reminded me of an old quote by a french philosopher. to prevent the family automobile is to prevent the pile-up on the highway. to invent facebook is to prevent what else? how would you describe the pile-up that we are all in right now? carrie fisher read that qu quote allowed. the book is full about insights about facebook's ugly underbelly. of course some of that involves mis and disinformation including about covid vaccines. it's not hard to find anti-vaccination pr

wolff writes that trump's conspiracy theory fed to him by sean hannity.t with new york governor andrew cuomo and michelle obama as the running mate. which led to a bizarre strategy option. should they left biden alone before it is too late to replace him? would michelle obama certainly felt doom? what to be done? my god, where did he get this from? sean hannity. credulous, the fox news anchor man with his extravagant conspiracy theories. joining me now with that dramatic reading is michael wolff of his new book "landslide." thank you so very much for joining me. first off, how did you do this? it is always my sort of political science perspective that the more time people are leaking because they are anticipating a loss and they want to cover their own rear's end in history's mind. how do you get access to the white house in these final days? >> what i had accomplished here with a friend and i said, well, you had a lot of practice. this is the third book that i have done and it really is an accumulation of knowledge and experience about this white house,

michael wolff, great to see you again.nday show." >> it's nice to see you. it's been a while. >> it's been a long while. this is your third book on the trump presidency, and, i mean, you chronicle a lot of crazy things in the trump white house, but there's this one crazy thing that i want to put up right now. we talked about the hannity theory. it was, you know, this theory given to president donald trump by sean hannity, and it was basically this super secret plan by the democrats to basically replace biden as the nominee with a andrew cuomo. and carl rove is in this meeting where the president tells him this, and carl rove says, even assuming they wanted to do this, why would bernie sanders, declared democratic runner up, allow this to happen? here's the part that made me gasp out loud and read three times. because, the agitated president said, lowering his voice, this is all being coordinated by the obamas. and, trump added, more darkly, there is a very good chance that michelle will go on the cuomo ticket as vp. this i

because as he explained it earlier tonight, the president said that that guy wolff gets ratings.ood luck with the book. great having you with us. the president goes big on voting rights, but is it big enough considering the fight our country is now locked in? i'll be asking my republican friends in cities and counties to stand up for god sake and help prevent this concerted effort to undermine our election for the sacred right to vote. [applause] have you no shame? >> as we said, genuine passion from the president today. the associated press, however, pointing out, quote, despite his worrying words on tuesday, he avoided any mention of trying to alter the senate filibuster rule that stands in the path of federal legislation. for more, we are so happy to welcome back tonight juanita tolliver, veteran political strategist to causes. and one michael steele, former lieutenant governor of the great state of maryland and host of the michael steele podcast. so juanita, it is getting tough out there. my evidence, exhibit one. join me and listening to how our friend nicole wallace started

reactions from him joining us now is michael wolff, author of the new book landslide, the final daysp presidency. michael, thank you for joining us tonight. i want to go with kind of your basic question about this book. what did you learn in reporting on this book that you didn't already know about donald trump? >> then he is even crazier than i thought he was. and i think one of the things -- i mean, from the beginning of this administration, the beginning of my reporting on this administration, it was clear that donald trump is not like you, and he's not like me. something is off, something is broken. but i think this comes to a head on november 3rd. he has an experience that he can't get his head around, that he has lost this election. and from november 3rd on, through to january 6th, through the genius -- january 20th, [inaudible] >> i guess we have a problem with michael's connection. if we can get michael on a telephone, or reestablish that connection, we will get there. >> there is michael, oh, do you have us? >> hello, yes. how is it? >> so, at any rate. what happens is he cr

among them is "landslide" by michael wolff. was running the country during the entire transition period. he writes that by late november trump had given up on any interest or pretense in executive matters. the election challenge had made everything else meaningless. all daily briefings were canceled including national security briefings. all efforts to return to pandemic issues, vaccine rollout or critical intelligence failed. never before had a sitting president so abdicated his proscribed and daily duties. wow, michael wolff, the author of "landslide, the final days of the trump presidency" joins me. that was stunning. we were without a president from the moment of the presidency on. did he ever re-engage? >> he was solely focused on the election he felt was stolen from him in every possible way. i mean, there was no moment when he turned away from that issue. so anything else that was not involved with that, he was -- he was absent from, uninterested in and in so many ways contemptuous of. >> you also write that he actually

"landslide" the final days of the trump presidency, michael wolff detailed it.e. >> let's talk about the chaos. when you write that rudy giuliani was telling the president that he won. what was happening there? who was the president listening to? why did he think he had won the election? >> well, one of the -- i was going to say amusing or perhaps horrifying details is that when rudy was trying to make his case and he was first, and he was sort of on the phone with the president and making the case to anyone he could, he was pulled aside by some of trump's key aides and he was pulled aside into at the white house, the china room and at that moment rudy was incredibly drunk, weaving this way and that way and the china those place settings from every president are very valuable and trump's -- trump's aides were obviously -- or rightfully concerned about -- about -- about what giuliani was saying to the president about the -- about the election, and giving him this misinformation, but they were also concerned that he was going to break the china. >> literally break

and after the fire and fury, comes the landlside — we'll talk to journalist michael wolff about his newk documenting the final days of the trump presidency. hello and welcome. big changes to covid restrictions have been made in england and scotland. wales relaxed some rules on 17july. northern ireland is set to ease rules on 26july. so, after well over a year of being in lockdown, what has changed? in england, facemasks are no longer mandatory — but they are still required in some businesses and shops and on some public transport. the government suggests they should be worn in crowded indoor spaces. all social distancing is scrapped. there are no limits now on how many people can gather indoors or outdoors in any situation. the guidance to work from home is also lifted. though the government expects people to start returning to work gradually. people who've had both vaccines can now travel to amber list countries without having to isolate on return. that does not include france, though, which has been listed as amber plus. our medical editor fergus walsh has the latest. three, two, one.

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michael wolff is with us, latest landslide, the final days of the trump presidency. michael wolff, welcome to washington journal. >> thank you for having me. >> was it always your plan to write about the final days of the trump presidency or did the situation between the election and the inauguration, january 6th, included drive your reasoning to write this book? >> yeah. i had no intention of writing a third book. i thought two was plenty but then january 6th happened and i thought -- and i thought, how can i walk away from this story? this story has immense implications for the moment, for the future. .. one of the things that struck me about reading landslide in this period of time was the sense of chaos both around the election returns and the whole period of challenging the election. and of course january 6. that surprise surprise you at all? >> no. the underlying theme probably of the three books i've written about the trump administration is the least chaos. i think maybe it deals even further than chaos. through the looking glass dysfunction of the trump whit

michael wolff is with us, latest landslide, the final days of the trump presidency.hael wolff, welcome to washington journal. >> thank you for having me. >> was it always your plan to write about the final days of the trump presidency or did the situation between the election and the inauguration, january 6th, included drive your reasoning to write this book? >> yeah. i had no intention of writing a third book. i thought two was plenty but then january 6th happened and i thought -- and i thought, how can i walk away from this story? this story has immense implications for the moment, for the future. .. one of the things that struck me about reading landslide in this period of time was the sense of chaos both around the election returns and the whole period of challenging the election. and of course january 6. that surprise surprise you at all? >> no. the underlying theme probably of the three books i've written about the trump administration is the least chaos. i think maybe it deals even further than chaos. through the looking glass dysfunction of the trump white ho

michael wolff is with us, latest landslide, the final days of the trump presidency.welcome to washington journal. >> thank you for having me. >> was it always your plan to write about

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wolff also writes that the previous administration had no idea what a tragedy it was.ct, for the first 90 minutes, ivanka dismissed it as "an optics issue," and was telling everyone how happy she was that "her children had gotten into a private school in florida." well, that's pretty insensitive. it reminds me of this famous moment: >> it's bursting into flames! ooh, did i mention my son got into harvard? his future is lit! oh, he's studying the humanities. there he is! congrats, kiddo! >> stephen: according to the book, her father was also surprised, telling an aide, "this looks terrible. this is really bad. who are these people? these aren't our people. these idiots with these outfits, they look like democrats." oh, yeah. the crowd on january 6 definitely looked like democrats. we all remember what biden wore to his inauguration. ( laughter ) ( applause ) he looks good. he's cut, man. >> jon: i remember that! >> stephen: a 78-year-old man. >> jon: yeah, a 78-year-old man putting it out there. >> stephen: speaking of the ex-president's buddies, north korean dictator k

michael wolff has spent time at mar-a-lago and he describes the in-r intricacies of the country clubends his days. >> there is this big room with sort of hunting lodge or, you know, renaissance this kind of design themes in violent conflict here. and trump sits in the middle. and there are these series of couches and this is where all day long republicans from across the country come to kiss the ring. now, if you are a mar-a-lago member, you can see this, you can sit in, you can hear this. >> fascinating. >> it is all on show. >> that is really -- >> weirdest thing in the whole world. >> do you think he will run again or just talk about it and hang over everyone's head and then make a dramatic decision? >> i think that it is the thing that you cannot predict what trump is going to do because there is no plan, there is no strategy, it will just happen in the moment. is it possible that at some big rally he thinks that he will get a big response by saying that he will run for president again and that is the decision? perfectly possible. >> that was michael wolff author of landslide, fi

michael wolff is right.he media lives in a bubble like the ones players blow while waiting on deck. for a brief moment that bubble popped saturday night at a baseball game where the true reality of the crime epidemic hit home plate. they got a taste of how the rest of dc lives where policies the media supports have turned their neighborhoods into a john wick movie. so will they learn any lessons from this and re-examine their news coverage especially regarding crime and how they dropped that ball when it should have been a routine catch? of course not. they'll forget about it by tonight and say the game was postponed due to climate change. >>> tonight's guests. he's our favorite bring import since frankie goes to hollywood. host of the next revolution, steve hilton! he's written more scripts than a doctor in a pill mill, tv writer producer rob long! he left community college years ago, but he still gets his clothes from the sears department costume closet, fox news radio host jimmy failla. and she recently t

michael wolff is with us, latest landslide, the final days of the trump presidency. michael wolff, welcome to washington journal. >> thank you for having me. >> was it always your plan to write about the final days of the trump presidency or did the situation between the election and the inauguration, january 6th, included drive your reasoning to write this book? >> yeah. i had no intention of writing a third book. i thought two was plenty but then january 6th happened and i thou--

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another book by michael wolff portrays a person isolated right after the election.uote, by the friday after election day, there was not a single white house aide or trump campaign official or trump pollster who believed that the vote count could be reasonably or effectively challenged. >> he is a man alone. his lawyers are saying, we're not going to do this. we're not going to fight these cases. >> reporter: and wolff writes that as the attack on the capitol raged on january 6th, quote, the president seemed to just not be grasping the facts as they were coming through. these people were protesting the election, he was still repeating as late as 2:30. the protesters wanted pence to do the right thing. these were good protesters, his protesters. >> the former president has responded generally to all three of these new books, releasing a statement saying of the authors, they write whatever they want to write anyway without sources, fact-checking or asking whether or not an event is true or false. frankly, so many stories are made up or pure fiction. so now i want to br

bill, to you is michael wolff right you think? >> probably. nothing is certain, and two years is a long way away. he's going to an awful lot of trouble to cement this hold on the republican party. he doesn't want to run again in 2024, and i don't know how much he cares. i think in his own way he's been incredibly effective over the last six months -- total disgrace, we would then learn over the next few months incredible details about how he was even more recklessly irresponsible than we thought both in his conduct over the two months and in his management of covid. biden would take over and do pretty well and things would seem to calm down. meanwhile on the republican side liz cheney gets purged because of the truth. we'll see what happens in republican primaries. for now he looks strong. for now, yeah, trump plans to run for president in 2024. >> don, it's been remarkable to watch republicans become the party of vaccines over the last let's say 48 to 72 hours. i want to play for you some of the angry reaction from one james carville on this

fortunately we know that governor wolff will not sign restrictive voter id laws. >> it's interesting because in thing in arizona -- i can't believe how long we're talking about this. they are renewing the lease on the auditorium. they are counting ballots until they come up with a solution. it's not that popular even amongst republicans in arizona. republicans trying to be competitive in pennsylvania, this can ultimately hurt them. >> i think it will. i think they will be shown to be hollow and hollow arguments. look at what pennsylvania did well. we had a $3 billion budget surplus added to that at the federal level. 7.9 billion in relief. we have an economy growing. we are above the president's standard for july 4th in terms of vaccinations. and you just interviewed the fantastic doctor with the black doctors consortium. we are moving forward. these sad republican would be leaders are walking in reverse. and i think eventually the voters figure that out and recognize the big lie did not happen. the election was not stolen. there is not massive fraud. in fact, as most people in a non

coming up monday morning, morgan shall upon reviews president biden schedule and then author michael wolff discusses his latest book, landslide. the final days of the trump presidency. dr. william schaffner talks about covid-19's delta variants. vaccine hesitancy. watch live monday morning and be sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, texts and tweets. >> monday night on the communicators -- >> the reason why ransomware has become such a problem is it has become a huge threat, not only a cyber criminal threat but as you mentioned, because of the application for critical infrastructure like pipeline for the largest meat supplier in the country. these are significant targets and they have increasingly become something cyber criminals are targeting. ransomware is a concept is pretty simple. unfortunately, defending against it has become complex. >> he oversaw the cyber security investigations during the trump administration. he discusses recent ransomware attack. monday night, on the communicators at 8:00 eastern on c-span two. >> arkansas senator, tom cotton, a possible 2024 repu

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author michael wolff discusses his latest book, "landslide -- the final days of trump presidency." and an infectious disease professor talk about that covid-19 delta variant and vaccine hesitancy. watch washington journal live at seven eastern monday morning and be sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, texts, and tweets. >> monday night, on "the communicators" -- >> the reason ransomware has become such a problem is that has become a huge threat, not lay criminal threat, but because of the implications like critical infrastructure like pipeline companies. these are very significant targets and they have increasingly become something cyber criminals are targeting. ransomware is a concept is pretty simple, unfortunately defending against it has become increasingly complex. >> he oversaw the justice department's national security and cyber crime investigations during the trump administration and discusses recent ransomware attack send other cyber threats -- ransomware attack's and other cyber threats monday night on c-span2. ♪ >> more from the iowa fami

michael wolff's report on the final months of the trump administration. some of these authors have.n book tv and you can watch the program any time on booktv.org. christian baker, jack phillips recently discussed the supreme court case overheads refusal to make a same-sex wedding cake. >> going to court to defend these things. in our government, we have a constitution that our government is supposed to protect. protect our rights. this is what that was. i did not want to create that message of the wedding cake. it is also a message to freely express my faith. government is supposed to express that right. there is nothing in our state constitution and u.s. constitution where we are able to go to a courtroom like this and fight. >> in the book you said your legal defense was a right of conscience, to sense. can you explain what that means? >> it is part of the speech. making me create a message and a cake. to me, the wedding cake is a constant symbol. tell and walk into a copter conference room, you are therefore a business meeting. you know without having to ask anyone it is a weddin

michael wolff discusses his book. vanderbilt university infectious disease professor dr.illiam shatner talks about the delta variant and vaccine hesitancy. be sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, texts and tweets. announcer: senator jeanne shaheen, former u.s. ambassador to afghanistan and other foreign policy experts discuss efforts to remove afghan allies from the country as u.s. troops continue their withdrawal. the center for strategic and international studies hosted the discussion. >> the events are moving rapidly. those afghans that worked close with the u.s. military, allies, diplomatic communities are going to be at heightened ris

then michael wolff discusses his latest book, "landslide -- the final days of the trump presidency." and infectious disease professor talks about the covid-19 delta variant and vaccine hesitancy. watch "washington journal" 7 a.m. eastern on monday morning. be sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, tech -- texts, and tweets. >> monday night, on "the communicators" -- >> the reason ransomware is a problem is because it's become a huge threat. not only a cyber criminal threat, but because of the implications for critical infrastructure like pipeline companies or the largest meat supplier in the country. these are very significant targets and they have increasingly become something cyber criminals are targeting. so the concept is pretty simple, but defending against it has become increasingly complex. >> he oversaw the justice department's national security and cyber crime investigations during the trump administration and discusses recent ransomware attack's and other cyber threats. monday night on "the communicators" at 8 p.m. eastern on c-span2. >> c-spa

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watch what michael wolff said to brian stelter.atch this. >> i don't want you to think that what i said at that point was in any way inauthentic. i think the media has done a terrible job on this. i think you, yourself, you know, you're a nice guy, you're full of sanctimony. you become part of one of the parts of the problem of the media. you come on here and you, and you have a, you know, monopoly on truth. you know exactly how things are supposed to be done. you know, you are why one of the reasons people can't stand the media. sorry. don't talk so much. listen more. you know people have genuine problems with the media. the media doesn't get the story right. the media exists in its own bubble. liz: what do you say, andy? final word. >> well-stated and i would say the point wasn't, the point of cnn and other media outlets, wasn't the truth. we have to get donald trump. he can't be reelected. they succeeded. liz: got it. >> but they blew their credibility in the process. liz: dr. saphier, next time, you will have the last word. tha

host: michael wolff is with us, the author of seven books, including three on the trump presidency and the latest, " landslide: the final days of the trump presidency." welcome to "washington journal." guest: thank you for having me. host: was it always your plan to write about the final days of the trump presidency, or did the situation on the inauguration, january 6 included, drive you to write this book?

you were talking to author michael wolff in the last hour.s not like politics is going in the same direction. it's been captured by absurdity. but absurdity has been married with the fear of declining clout by the republican party and its constituents. and joe biden has got to try to make a public argument to his party, hoping that they'll get action later to stop it. >> hey, thanks for being a loyal viewer of the 7:00 hour. b, john, we just did get a bit of breaking news. we confirmed the first lady dr. jill biden will travel to the olympics in japan. there had been some question because of the state of emergency that will be imposed because of the games. >> right. there are not going to be spectators at the games. the united states wanted to have a presence. there is no indication president biden is going to join his wife, dr. jill biden at the olympics, but she is going to plant the flag, in effect, for the united states, for the united states team. and that's a significant development. >> john harwood, great to see you. thanks for watchin

thank you very much for having me on a michael wolff's new book landslide the final days of the trumpncy describes the president's reaction to the deadly january 6th insurrection. on capitol hill. according to wolfe, trump said in a phone call with advisor jason miller that his supporters look like idiots asking, quote, who are these people. these are our people. these idiots with these outfits. they look like democrats, fox news decision desk is calling arizona for joe biden. and when this happened at 11:20pm on election night. washington post reporters carol leonnig and philip rucker write in their book i alone can fix it that the then president became enraged screaming. what the expletive is fox doing, asking son in law, jared kushner to call members of the murdoch family, the owners of fox news. they also write the joint chiefs chairman, general mark milley fear trump wou d try to use the military to stay in office after the election that he was worried about a possible military coup telling aides, according to the book, this is a reichstag moment. the gospel of the fewer mister t

think that the range of books that we're seeing right now really on one end of the spectrum is michael wolffted to creating works of fiction, to those that are as you mentioned by a little bit better reporters and so there's obviously some truth to it. this anecdote from general mille is a perfect example, it's almost unfact checkable. this is about what mark mille thought or felt or what he was thinking might happen. first of all, if you want to know where the source comes from, i don't think a lot of people can know exactly what's going monday in general mille's head expect general mille. so you have that. it's also as you mentioned, it makes him, centers him as the hero of the story and it reminds a little of the anonymous saga, i was involved in the trump administration but i'm one of the good guys. it's honestly -- yeah. howie: sometimes it involves what mille said to others. there can be other sources, trump saying mille choked like a dog and some of the stars he produced are actually made of garbage. that brings me to the next question which is how is it that donald trump has generate

michael wolff with his book, the jew expected so much competition when you're writing this? >> not what i first started. after the election and some of those were announced it was a little harrowing. this is my first book. see what really planning on writing on the election before the results? >> yes. i went into 2020 primed to write an election book. not a book about the pandemic or george floyd. i knew i had let the reporting to the work for me. i do not have the tv show great huge social media presence and some of those things that sell books for first-time authors. i had to let the reporting do the work to compete with these other journalists and authors who earn their reputation but. >> are you back on the biden feed at the white house yet? >> no i think a beat transitioning and keep writing about trump. stu and michael bender the brand-new book we did win this election the inside story of how trump lost, thanks much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> c-span's washington journal every day we are taking your calls live on the air, on the news of the day and d

trump university, a critic of his golf courses, the organizer of a dump trump campaign, author michael wolff92-year-old widow, social conduct accusers, former aide, gop senator ted cruz, john kasich who trump wanted to sue for, quote, fun. a person who made anti-trump t-shirts, mary trump, and an artist who painted a nude of him. the artist said she was threatened by someone claiming to be part of trump's team if the piece was sold. but why? why does he do this over and over? perhaps he gave us a hint at the press conference for this new lawsuit. >> if you say it long enough, hard enough, often enough, people will start to believe it. >> that may have worked with the big lie that he won the 2020 election when he actually lost it. but when it comes to lawsuits, trump has just become the litigant who cried wolf. >> i didn't know about the naked painting. >> i didn't either. you know, we do our research and we uncover all these interesting things, and that might be the most interesting. >> i hope you didn't do too much research on that one there. but no. i mean, clearly the lawsuit is his defau

governor wolff is term limited.ing governor in 2024 when the next presidential election is being litigated. >> on the scale we should reiterate this about mastriano. he convened that ridiculous hearing giuliani was going through in states. campaign finance records show he spent thousands of dollars on a campaign rally in washington, d.c. he was essentially there on the day of the insurrection pursuing if not entering the building at least the aims of the insurrectionists. michelle, this goes hand in hand with what we saw in michigan where the gop leader had to quit because he wouldn't -- it's like cheney. he wouldn't say the election was stolen, trump blew it, and now he's resigned. this is the litmus test. >> yeah. i was going to bring that up in contrast to what's happening in pennsylvania and what's so important i think is to remember that the reason that there ultimately wasn't a successful coup the last time around was because in many cases you have republican officials at various levels acting responsibly from

. >> reporter: wolff writes that no one in trump's inner circle believed trump actually won the election stepped back. so they're not helping him. >> reporter: but outsiders like sidney powell took over and told trump what he wanted to hear. in michael bender's book, frankly we did win this election, former secretary of state mike pompeo is quoted as saying the crazies have taken over. bender's take away -- >> is how dangerous the people who are closest to trump thought he was for the country. >> reporter: bender says come pay owe tried to intervene. >> privately he sets up a call with -- daily call with the chief of staff and the nation's top general, in order to try to keep temperatures down. >> reporter: but in public, pompeo weirdly appeased trump. >> there will be a smooth transition to second trump administration. >> reporter: next week's big trump book continues the theme of aides trying to manage trump's emotions. i alone can fix it describes trump boiling over as his opponent joe biden pulls ahead. with an adviser calling gop strategist karl rove and saying, he's in a meltdown.

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he sits in the lobby, he holds these meetings, according to michael wolff, he wants to be seen holdingozing at dinner. people come up to the table. he sort of is like a maitre d' at times, going to people's tables, crashing people's weddings, making speeches. i imagine him saying this over and over. i mean, talking about the big lie every single day. one of his -- i don't know if it's a genius or just a pathology, but when he has something he wants to make everybody believe, he just repeats it so much that it exhausts you, and then repeats it even more. >> absolutely. i mean, anderson, i personally witnessed, had an experience with mr. trump and melania at trump tower, where he convinced me so much, and i speak about it in my book, about rich gates, that he didn't know who this person was, and he was his deputy chairman. there is this nature within him, and i think that his lies are so convincing that he actually believes them himself. and he's made all of his followers believe them as well. >> john, it is rare in life that one encounters a conman who, you know, reaches the heights tha