when we come back, woodward will join us live. and he's brought new audio along with him from the trump tapes, ones that we will unpack live right here next. my dad was a hard worker. he used to do side jobs installing windows, charging something like a hundred bucks a window when other guys were charging four to five-hundred bucks. he just didn't wanna do that. he was proud of the price he was charging. ♪ my dad instilled in me, always put the people before the money. be proud of offering a good product at a fair price. i think he'd be extremely proud of me, yeah. ♪ >>> we're getting new insight into former president trump's thinking and attitude during his years in the white house, breaking from 50 years of tradition, celebrated journalist bob woodward is releasing recordings from his 20 different interviews with trump and issuing a warning about his subject. woodward saying one of the most striking themes is the former president's inability to reflect and take action on the coronavirus crisis that was enveloping the country. li

bob woodward is back with me.h his legendary partner from the days of the washington post, carl bernstein. bob, this is something i've never heard you say in decades of reading and watching you, that one individual should not be president, poses a threat to the presidency, why is donald trump such a unique threat that he's causing you to issue this warning? >> well, first of all, he does not understand democracy. the country we have, the united states, was one of the rare countries formed on an idea. and that idea is democracy. he does not understand that the january 6th committee has proven that. he does not understand that he's got to take care of the people, he's got to give them advice, warning, and he did not do this. carl and i have been talking about this for 50 years since the nixon case. >> carl, what's your take on bob's work here? obviously, and the warning he's issuing. >> this is a level of transgression by a president of the united states that is unique in our history. and that the power of listening

and he does want to impress woodward. he also, i feel, that there is the sense of he is above it all. and that i can give it you because i am the king of the castle, and i am, like, the ruler of the land. and the rules do not apply to me. and that is so many people caught in the narcissist. but that is, like, his behavior, narcissistic behavior. >> i'm so, why do you think we has it at mar-a-lago? because he wants to shows visitor. >> yes, yes that's the thing, because if he showed it to bob woodward, is that the only one he showed the classified stuff to? we don't know, that seems hard to believe. laura was pointing out earlier that we went a long time without ever hearing jerry kushner's voice. and people did not know, speculated that there were -- fits about what that was. like >> darth vader, gilbert gottfried. >> so, here it is can we play this portion? >> can i just headed up by telling you what has happened before this is is donald trump has put jarred on the phone with woodward so jarred will arrange for woodward

everybody knows bob woodward is writing a book and everything you say to bob woodward is on the record but people just spill their guts to bob woodward. so kudos for that. but as jamie pointed out in her piece when she was introducing this, none of this has been verified. trump said some hyperbolye there, we created the biggest baddest weapon system that nobody knows about. we don't know that. this president is known to have a little bit of h -- >> it's rare for the president of the united states to be the guy in the bar bragging about how big his weapons system is. there's plenty of presidents that had big weapon systems and not bragged about it. >> yeah but you remember the comment to kim jong un, my button is bigger than his button. do you remember that? >> this may shed some light on why those documents went. why did he want to keep some of these things? we don't know the answer to that. we really don't. but if you listen to these tapes. one of the reasons may be that he just likes to brag a lot so he likes to pull out the love letter from kim jong un. this could be one of them. >>

kudos to bob woodward for that. as jamie pointed out in her piece, when she was introducing this, none of this has been verified. trump's hyperbole about, we create the biggest, baddest weapon system that nobody knows about. it might not even exist. we don't know. this president is known to have a little bit of hyperbole, as you know, anderson. i would not take any of it as fact. >> it's rare for the president of the united states to be the guy in the bar bragging about how big his weapon system is. you know? >> [laughs] you remember -- you remember the comments to kim jong-un, my button is bigger than his by. you remember that? >> this may shed some light on why those documents went to mar-a-lago. why did he want to keep some of these things? we don't know the answer to that. we really don't. but if you listen to these tapes, it may be, one of the reasons, let's say, that he just likes to brag a lot. and so he likes to pull out the love letters from kim jong-un, as he did for bob woodward. maybe that is the reason

woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> reporter: in 2020, whenever the phone rang at bob woodward'souse, he reached for a tape recorder. >> is it a robocall or trump? >> i bring rage out. i do bring rage out. i don't know if that's an asset or liability, but i do. >> reporter: later, bob woodward and the trump tapes. >>> for better or worse, a new yorker by the name of robert moses refashioned much of this city in the mid 20th century. martha teichner speaks with ralph fiennes stars in a new play about the power broker. >> robert moses, whose very enemies would say that he more than any other person is the man who built new york. >> reporter: that's no exaggeration. ralph fiennes stars in a new play about him. >> he has an extraordinary inner conviction that he is right. >> reporter: is he arrogant? >> yeah. >> the need is there. >> reporter: he is still controversial. a reminder why, ahead this "sunday morning." >>> we talk with john t tracy smith introduces us to gabriel iglesias. we will re-visit ed bradley's story on emmett till. we will be right back. i see it in my office all

bob woodward is doing something he's never done before., you're in the room. what you hear is donald trump unvarnished, blunt, profane, no surprise. he is attacking people he doesn't like. he is boasting about himself, and here's a sense of what you hear. >> hi, bob. my whole life has been deals. i've done great, far greater than people understand. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. law and order, bob, law and order. >> why don't you give me your -- >> i said to the king, you have to -- if it weren't for us. >> why don't you give me your taxes. he didn't get his taxes, but he got a lot of other things there are also moment that probably made he security staff very unhappy, such as where trump shared classified documents with bob woodward, such as those now infamous love letters from north korean dictator kim jong-un that we know trump took to mar alaggo. listen to what trump says to bob woodward as he hands them over. >> nobody else has them, but i want you to treat them with respect. >> i understand. i understand. >> don't say i

woodward opened up his rep reporter's notebook. you're in the room with them.d and blunt and he considers and he spends a lot of time boasting about himself but there are moments that i am certain his national security advisors would be very unhappy about and one in particular has to do with letters that were declassified, those new infamous lavioove let between kim jong-un and trump that he took to mar-a-lago. so let's start just listen to what trump says to woodward as he hands them over. >> nobody else has them but i want you to treat them with respect. >> understand. understand. >> don't say i gave them to you. okay? >> okay. >> i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't -- i wasn't going to give them to bob. >> i dictated them into a taped recorder. >> really? >> yeah. >> it's actually sort of funny with the photo stat and the dictating but just think about what trump said to woodward, don't say to anyone i gave them to you. it's a classic example. in the audio tapes it's commentary by woodward and he said it is a perfect example of how causal, how dangerous,

why dud bobbed woodward put this out?s own words, and and i know bob has said this himself, it is, it's just totally different than reading it. it is sort of funny -- howard: yeah. trump saids woodward has no right to put out these tapes, but these were all on the record interviews. so why shouldn't we be able to hear trump's voice in a way with, you know? he's his own best salesman. >> of course. and he's his own, depending on how you look at it, worst enemy. donald trump loves the media, and the media loves donald trump, and they hate each other too. it's sort of a sadomasochist sadomasochistic interview. why does he call bob woodward on his cell phone to continue these conversations after he read the first book? he does it because he wants to control the narrative, he loves the media and wants to, obviously, get his best foot forward, and i think he thinks he's business -- his best advocate. obviously, bob woodward's going to put out, it's all on the record, and it just goes to show, to shine a light on what this trump

woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> my whole life has been deals. i've done great.er than people understand. i respect putin. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. >> it's law and order, bob, law and order. >> why don't you give me your -- >> seriously. >> you got -- >> jamie gangle obtained this audio book. tell us more. >> you're in the room. no surprise this is donald trump unvarnished, profane, blunt, he trashes people he doesn't like. he boasts about himself and he shares with woodward documents that you can be sure his national security advisers, their heads were exploding starting with those now infamous love letters from kim jong-un. you hear him handing them over to bob woodward in realtime and listen to what he says. >> nobody else has them but i want you to treat them with respect. >> i understand. i understand. >> don't say i gave them to you, okay? >> okay. i -- >> i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't have -- i wasn't going to give them to bob, you know. what you make a photostat. >> no, i dictated them into a

that's probably why you're bob woodward.es we hear from jared kushner. i think what's most interesting about the book, a lot of this news was broken in bob woodward's book "rage," but you get a sense of trump unvarnished. it will not surprise you he attacks people he doesn't like and he boasts a lot about himself. you'll hear the word tough over and over. the audio book comes out next week. >> interesting to here. also the systemic sucking up to bob woodward, extraordinary. >> reporter: he wanted to impress him. always the salesman. >> jamie, thank you very much. >>> russian president vladimir putin has announced martial law in the four regions that russia claims to have annexed from ukraine. we're live in moscow, next. so, you're 45. that's the perfect age to see some old friends, explore new worlds, and to start screening for colon cancer. yep. with colon ccer rising in adults under 50, the amican cancer society recommends starting to screen earlier, atge 45. i'm cologuard, a noninvasive y to screen at home, on your schedu

woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> president trump, how are you?odward's wife, journalist elsa walsh, answered the calls, which came day or night. >> so we'd joke and i'd say there's like princess diana, that there were three people in this marriage, bob, me, and donald trump. and it was sort of never-ending. >> the phone would ring. is it a robocall, or is it trump? >> mr. president, you are connected. >> hi, bob. >> sir, how are you? >> reporter: woodward scattered tape recorders around the house to be ready for the surprise calls. >> i'm turning my recorder on here as i always do. >> reporter: and donald trump would talk. >> i respect putin. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. >> reporter: and talk. >> i said to the king, king, you got to pass for protection. >> reporter: on the pandemic, north korea, race relations, just about everything. >> i bring rage out. i do bring range out. i always have. i don't know if that's an asset or a liability, but whatever it is, i do. >> reporter: there were 16 phone calls, 20 interviews all told, 8 hou

woodward says trump showed him the letters from north korean leader kim jong-un after urging woodward to, quote, treat them with respect, trump warned, quote, and don't say i gave them to you, okay? a month later woodward pressed trump in a phone call to let him also see the letters that trump wrote to kim. trump responded, "oh, those are so top secret." >> associate editor of "the washington post" bob woodward joins us now. his new audio book titled "the trump tapes: bob woodward's 20 interviews with president donald trump" goes on sale tomorrow. bob, this is a first for you. why so important to release these audiotapes? >> we have bob's -- his video shot just froze but we'll get him back. i can answer that question by reading from a new piece that bob put out explaining why he put the interviews out. and this is what it says. "the piece is entitled the trump tapes: 20 interviews that show why he is an unparalleled danger," and bob writes in part, "in more than 50 years of reporting, i have never disclosed the raw interviews or full transcripts of my work. but after listening again t

he absolutely condemns him, woodward says, quote, trump is an unparalleled danger.d now shows that trump has led and continues to lead a seditious conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election, which in effect is an effort to destroy democracy. >> it's a damning take of someone he interviewed extensively. you want to know something, everything is mine. we can laugh about it because it's a snapshot of his ego but a pressing roar as the government tries to get its documents back because they are not his and belong to you and me and the citizens of the united states. great reporting. >>> up next, democracy as a campaign issue. the utah senate debate turns feisty as an independent candidate accuses the republican incumbent of trying to help donald trump overturn the election. [ cocoughing/sneezing ] [ door knocking ] dude, you coming? because the only thing dripping should be your style! plop plop fizz fiz winter warriors with alka-seltzer plus cold & flu relie i'd like to thank our sponso liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need.

bob woodward is tanding by live. we'll discuss in a few moment.e is tom foreman with more on the very revealing tapes. >> mr. woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> reporter: the calls came at all hours on all subjects. >> nobody is tougher than me. you asked me about impeachment and you act like you just won the tucking race. >> sometimes bragging. >> i have a reputation of not willing to apologize. i will apologize if i'm wrong. >> when was last time you apologized. >> i don't know. over a period of time -- here is the thing. i'm never wrong, okay. >> reporter: then relaxed and entertaining and occasionally alarming. >> i have built a weapon system that nobody has ever will in this country before. we have stuff that you haven't even seen or heard before. we stuff that putin and xi have never heard about before. >> reporter: just as he has in public, trump praised the russian president. >> respect putin and i think he likes me. >> reporter: but he was equally afusive about the north korea leader. >> the cia said about kim jong-un that he's cunni

bob woodward, the new audio book is the trump tapes. thank you bob. >> thank you. >> coming, up the senate campaign debate in pennsylvania tonight, reveal that trump's candidate, mehmet oz, believes the question of abortion should be decided by women, her doctor, and local elected officials, that's what he actually said, while john fetterman shed said -- united states and. that's up next. that's up next ression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. call your doctor about sudden behavior changes or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. report fever, confusion, stiff or uncontrollable muscle movements, which may be life threatening or permanent. these aren

no, i don't feel that at all. >> bob woodward is our guest.ome back to "the beat," sir. >> thank you. >> you have emphasize in the your work and books and sometimes in our conversations that journeyism always starts with sources. gou to the source, endeavor to ask and listen. what comes through as important as you listen to the tapes and audio that is now public? >> well, first of all, it shows that he really put the presidency in moral free fall. the tape you just played here i'm just asking the obvious question. there's white privilege. trump represents it. i represent it. we've got to understand the pain and anger of others. but he just comes back, oh, you drank the kool-aid. i mean, what an insulting statement to me and to black people and people who wanted -- people who want some sort of engagement on racial justice. >> yeah. yeah, as you say, it's also -- >> excuse me. >> sure, bless you. >> it's also striking because there is a candor there. everyone can be a performer. he's not the only politician to do that, but you have a little bit

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his new audio book "the trump tapes," bob woodward's 20 interviews with president trump out today.nk you for doing this. there is a difference between reading something and hearing something. this is so instructive. do you understand him now? >> that's a great question. no. i don't. but i'm able to report on him and we hear his voice at these times of stress or -- where he has to make decisions, and i think the bottom line, you don't have to listen to -- if you listen to all of it, you'll see he does not understand the presidency. does not understand his responsibility. and that's key to being president. it is not just all about the president, himself. he's got to tune into what the people need, what the crises are and you see trump pulling back and particularly on the virus, covering up. >> it is about leadership, being president is about leadership. and particularly on covid, you were asking him about that. i want to listen to one exchange. >> was there a moment in all of this last two months where you said to yourself, this is the leadership test of a lifetime? >> no. >> no. bob

it's all bob woodward's fault.hy are you agreeing to do 20 interviews on tape with the guy who took down richard nixon? with tapes! with tapes. [ cheers and applause ] the emperor has no brain. in florida last night, a gubernatorial debate between democrat charlie crist and the republican, the guy who could trip up trump in 2024, ron desantis. crist asked desantis a simple question. one that ron either couldn't or wouldn't address. >> you talk about joe biden a lot. i understand. you think you're going to be running against him. i can see how you might get confused. but you're running for governor. why don't you look in the eyes of the people of the state of florida and say to them, if re-elected you will serve a full four-year term as governor, yes or no? yes or no, ron? will you serve a full four-year term if you're re-elect the governor of florida? it's not a tough question. it's a fair question. he won't tell you. >> jimmy: maybe if i stand perfectly still, they won't be able to see me. [ laughter ] he's either

trump can be heard showing woodward the 27 letters that were written to him by north korean leader kim jong. un. trump acknowledges he should not be showing woodward the letters nobody else has done, but i wanted to treat them with respect. i haven't understand, understand, and don't say i gave them to you. okay but i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't have given. i wasn't going to give him the what you make a photostat of them or something dictated them into tape recorder. trump refused to show woodward the letters he sent to kim calling those top secret letters were reportedly among the classified items that were seized at mar a lago. a developing story in the national football league. team owners under fire for allegedly spying on other owners to dig up dirt on them. dan snyder denies those claims with the controversy could be the last straw after a wave of other allegations that go far beyond football. this morning, a rarity in the nfl team owners appear to be turning their back on one of their own, it could mean the clock is running out for scandal plagued washington commanders

woodward, the president. >> hi, bob. >> my whole life has been deals. i've done great. far greater than people understand. i respect putin. i think putin likes me. i think i like him. >> it's law and order, bob, law and order. >> why don't you give me your --

to woodward, trump only cared about dictators in term of their relationships with him. >> it's funny, the relationship s i have, the meaner they are, the better i get along with.

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to bob woodward in realtime and listen to what he says. >> nobody else has them but i want you to treat them with respect. >> i understand. i understand. >> don't say i gave them to you, okay? >> okay. i -- >> i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't have -- i wasn't going to give them to bob, you know. what you make a photostat. >> no, i dictated them into a

here's how trump responded in may, when woodward learned about that warning and asked trump about it. >> your new national security adviser, o'brien -- >> right. >> -- said january 28, mr. president, this virus is going to be the biggest national security threat to your presidency. do you remember that? >> no, no. no, i don't.

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we've obtained a copy of the new audio book by journalist bob woodward containing 20 interviews over four years with former president donald trump. it's called "the trump tapes." woodward is releasing them because hearing trump speak is completely different experience than reading transcripts or listening to snippets of sound on tv. some deal with letters from kim jong-un which are now at the heart of the justice department's classified documents investigations. trump shared them with woodward. >> nobody else has them but i want you to treat them with respect. >> understand. understand. >> don't say i gave them to you, okay? >> okay. >> but i think it's okay. normally i wouldn't have -- i wasn't going to give them to bob but you make a photostat of them? >> no, i dictated them into a tape recorder. >> really? >> well, in another interview trump is writing a speech after the death of george floyd when he declared himself the law and order president. >> did somebody help you? >> yeah. i get -- i get people, they come up with ideas, but the ideas are mine, bob. mine. you want to know so

woodward and bernstein became world, famous movie stars and got rich.and they got to sign their names and thousands of people went into investigative journalism, and today every news story signed. and the person writing that story is tempted to make it as sensational as possible, so you will remember their name. so you don't get news, you get here is what i think you should think about what happened today. well, give me a question again. >> [inaudible] >> -- now the truth is coming out. now, of course. not that would be too fun. nobody has ever disputed a single fact in my books. i have the documents, what are they gonna say? he wrote about the secret meeting but we didn't really do it. i am told there are four stages when you are smelling a bookie disagree with. and the first really foremost is ignored. it. north say that i vaguely remember the guy, but he was not important. they are not read the book so i can't comment on it. or you pick out some little -- there is a typo on page 32. so you can't believe i think he says. only of others start to take t

bob woodward's notes are at the university of texas? and he was first person to interview leon jaworski after jaworski had left washington and and jaworski left before the cover-up trial was underway. so on december 5th 1974. he sitting down with jaworski. and he must have said wow, you caused quite a change in washington. you know, you got nixon de resign you you handle it through the through the pardon. and then there's this code it's type so you can't miss it. says there were a number of one-on-one conversations. they'd only he and the other party know about. and then the next paragraph this is the top page of the interview the next paragraph jaworski goes on to say you know the house impeachment inquiry really didn't know he didn't have any idea what they were doing. so we staffed them. we supplied them with what they needed to bring their charges against nixon. well, here are two incredible leads. for bob woodward me who could who could dwarski be talking about he was talking about meetings the secret meetings with judge, sureka. t

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mr woodward, the president. hi, bob.nce, from nixon to biden has sat for interviews with the veteran reporter. ten presidents in a row. but he says one stood out above the rest as an "unparalleled danger" to the united states — someone who i'm sure you will recognise. the trump presidency had so many twists and turns that woodward penned three best selling books on the rise and fall of his four years in office. but now he says there is more to tell. that his books simply "didn't go far enough". and so he has decided to publish the tapes of his 20 interviews with the president spanning his entire four years. he sat down for a special interview with me a short time ago to discuss what he learnt, and his warnings about what could come if donald trump makes a return in 2024. i makes a return in 2024. began by asking him why this i began by asking him why he felt this was the type —— right time to release the tape. i this was the type -- right time to release the tape.— this was the type -- right time to release the tape. i l

that is that cnn has obtained a copy of a new a joe book by bob woodward.es a view as to when raw moments between the former president and the journalist back in 2019, when he was interviewing him in the oval office, president at the time. he shared with woodward letters that the north korean dictator kim jong-un had written to hem, and obviously the letter have helped to spark this doj investigation into documents he had taken with him to mar-a-lago. listen to the ought i don't clip. >> nobody else has them. i want you to treat them with respect. >> i understand. >> don't say i gave them to you. >> okay. >> by even just saying don't tell anyone that i gave them to you, obviously highlighting the significant of these documents and how classified they really were. does it help the doj at all? their case potentially ig saying that the donald trump at the time knew these were classified documents? >> a little bit. they show his awareness, state of mind, that these are very sensitive, they're probably classified documents. there was no stamp on them. i don't kn

joining us right now is bob woodward, cnn political analyst, carl bernstein.her, they broke some of the biggest stories in watergate scandal separately. they remain prolific authors, investigative reporters, and bob gates, one of the leading -- one of the moments we've just seen. bob, you just watch this for the first time. as you reflect, what sticks out to you? >> but what it tells us about donald trump, i. i mean, the idea that he was watching this, the case has been made that it's prove-able that he's behind this. so, where's the common decency? and then as you noted, the republican leaders, kevin mccarthy from the house, mitch mcconnell from the senate, are in on this. they are meeting with pelosi and schumer. they are trying to get out of it, and what are the relations that no one had donald trump's cell phone number or knew how to get a hold of him? in a way. and then i guess the third thing, which is so important, there is a moral authority dimension to the presidency. the president, as we know, somebody will get detained illegally in russia, china, ir

annoyed at having been interviewed by bob woodward? >> well, he did interviews with maggie haberman, too, for her book. and then goes on twitter, or whatever, truth social, sorry, and bad-mouths her. i mean, i think the truth of the matter, he can't quit us. he can't talk with us, he just can't. journalists, as much as he wants to own, like, as much as he wants to stay in his comfort zone and only talk to people in other channels, you know, challenging him all that much, he really wants to be accepted by people at the new york times and elsewhere. >> and cnn. >> i found it interesting, though, he thought about it. the idea of him releasing all the states and the motivation that he spoke to about the reasons why doing so, and in a way, i wonder if he will be questioned in terms of trying to put the thumb on the scale, for whatever reason. there's often criticism towards journalists that suggests the types of stories you publish and the ones you want to put forward somehow lead people to question what your role is, or why you are trying

according to the "washington post," after urging woodward to treat them with respect, trump warned in an interview, and said, don't say i gave them to you. okay? but i'll let you see them, trump added. i don't want you to have them all. these are his quotes. a month later in january of 2020, woodward pressed trump in a phone call to let him also see the letters that trump wrote to kim. >> here are the words. "oh. those are so top secret." >> oh, dear. >> the classification actually fbi and doj had been saying. he had top secret material, mika. and they're like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, but donald trump tells woodward they're so top secret. >> bring in intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. ken, does this move the meter at all especially in the eyes of doj looking into whether he was obstructing justice and other things? >> mika, you have to believe that it does, because, you know, this whole question of intent is looming over this entire investigation, and here is -- here is evidence in donald trump's own mouth including this new designation of "so top secret." not one generally know

trump tapes. -- woodward asked him about his role in the white house. >> did somebody help you?me up with ideas. but the ideas are mine, bob. the ideas are mine. >> and then -- >> you want to know something? everything is mine. >> joining me now is peter baker, chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analysts who is also, of course, the author. of the trump white house 2017 and -- you know him pretty well, but from that book and beyond, peter. >> you hear trump there saying everything is mine. given what you found out writing this book, covering the white house during his years there. does this reflection on his presidency sound familiar to you? what does that say about how he viewed his role in power? >> it does sound familiar, of course alex. it's unfamiliar to us not just from the tapes, which are quite revelry, but also from the interviews we did with him for the divider and frankly the public comments after he was president of united states. everything is mine is how he sees the presidency, how he sees life in general basically. a very point -- point of view. he

i do not know ted woodward but i am giving his book a plug. in his book, he talks about the power of lincoln. his book is about lincoln's train trip from springfield to washington, d.c. to be sworn in. he says, lincoln actually believed the promises of our founding documents. woodward describes it this way. he said, that made him dangerous. it made him a dangerous and ascetical politician who recycled old platitudes without pausing to digest them. let's leave here today resolved that we will believe the promises of our founding documents and conduct ourselves soon was -- so as to uphold them and perpetuate the republic, and all remember there is no power on this earth that is stronger than free citizens determined to stand together to defend the miracle and blessing of our freedom. thank you. god bless all of you. [applause] thank you. thank you. >> thank you, congresswoman. we have plenty of time for questions. i have a few questions of my own. then, we have a tradition in the center. we have a microphone here. i think there is a microphone u

was information coming in through secure channels how severe this would be when i heard the bob woodwardew i was as shocked as america was because when i arrived and when i say no one, i mean no one in the white house from the nsc to the cia to the vice president and president, no one shared with me they had an understanding about the severity. my feeling was there not taking it as significantly as i think it's going to be and that's why we have to make changes but it was very disconcerting to find out the woodward interview course june or july of 2020, i was shocked still no one showed me it existed so to this day, i've never seen that document that talks about the severity. the reason i knew it would be severe is you could see on social media hospitals were getting overwhelmed in january. at the same time china saying we don't think there's human to human i transmission so if i see the social media posts, the who should have seen the social media posts and they should have gone to the world and said the virus highly contagious spreading rapidly and results in significant analyst and th

woodward has released several books about the former president based on phone interviews.ing an audiobook containing recordings of the full eight hours of interviews. wood w5rd described the former president as "the wrong man for the job." now, after relistening to the audio, he says, "i realize i didn't go far enough. the former president is an unparalleled danger." really, bob? now you're realizing this? i look forward to your next op-ed: "something seems off about this harvey weinstein guy." ( laughter ) ( applause ) oop-ed. op-ed. op-ed. how's it going? "the washington post" published a few of the clips. and, yeah, they're bad. here's how the former president spoke about covid at the height of the pandemic. >> was there a moment in all of this, last two months, where you said to yourself, "ah, this is the leadership test of a lifetime"? >> no. i don't take responsibility for this. >> stephen: it's also what he says on eric's birthday. the recordings-- ( applause ) ♪ ♪ ♪ the recordings also capture how special it was for him to meet kim jong-un. >> the c.i.a. says about

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a conversation with -- his mid past and how donald trump keeps agreeing to be interviewed by bob woodward. but then is often annoyed at being interviewed by bob woodward. >> he did interviews with maggie haberman to for her book. that goes on twitter, or truth social, sorry and bad-mouthed her. i mean, i think the truth the matter is he can't quit us. he can't quit us journalist. as much as he wants to own -- as much as he wants the stain of corporate zone and talk to people in the channel. he really wants to be accepted by people at the new york times. >> i found interesting. the idea of him releasing, on these, tapes the motivation that he spoke to about for the reasons why doing so. anyway i wonder if you will be questioned in terms of trying to put the thumb on the scale, for whatever reason. there's often with criticism towards journalist that suggest that, you know, the type of stories he published. the ones you want to put forward. somehow leads people to question what your role is. or why you're trying to make it known. i think it's perfectly one for the people to express a lot of

bob woodward of "the washington post" has something interesting in the works.omorrow, he will release the audio from twenty interviews he did with trump during his last yar in office. he did twenty interviews with a guy whose first two books he called "very boring" and "fake." he did 20 interviews in one year. i don't speak to my mother that much. today, woodward provided a few snippets of what he has in store, including trump waxing poetic about his poison pen pal, kim jong-un. >> you meet somebody and you have a good chemistry, and there is lot of truth to it. you meet a woman. in one second, you know whether or not it's all going to happen, okay? we have very good chemistry. >> wait a minute. donald trump had sex with kim jong-un? [ applause ] i didn't even know they were dating! all this talk about launching missiles. it was right in front of us the whole time. speaking of chemistry, even though trump still hasn't officially thrown his maga hat in the ring for 2024, he has reportedly been talking about a who his running mate will be, and that running mate i

the came from an interview with the former president did with bob woodward.ng about trump's letters from kim jong-un. trump reportedly told woodward he knows many of those letters were top-secret. those letters are among the documents removed from mar-a-lago earlier this year. duchess meghan markle is sharing more about her private life as part of an interview. she paid tribute to the queen. she said the queen's death was very complicated for her husband, prince harry. she said she was grateful to spend time with the monarch in the years before her death. she also discussed a new series where she clears up misconceptions about her life. she describes herself as a nerd mom who likes to watch jeopardy overnight. she also said one of the most important things for her is to be understood. part of building a better bay area is finding solutions to the climate crisis, with the drought having a huge impact across the state. local farmers are looking ways for conserving. many are turning to drones. gloria rodriguez is in the newsroom with more. gloria: these agricult

a new audio book from bob woodward, reporting that donald trump knew that the letters to kim jong-un that he took from the white house that he brought to mar-a-lago, he knew that they were classified when he had them. given that, what do you do with trump's claims about not taking anything classify? >> i think this is as prosecutors like glenn used to say to me in the halls of a courthouse, this is a bad, fact this is a bad fact for donald trump. if he's on tape saying -- when woodward, my great colleague, asked him, can i see the letters you wrote to kim jong-un, trump's response in january of 2020, remember when those boxes were being packed up was, oh that's so top secret. he literally uses the term top secret. so it's hard to claim ignorance of the classification of some of these records now, based on this point. it doesn't mean we are any more closer to the department of justice saying oh great now we can charge him but it's a bad fact that helped build the case about what donald trump knew and when he knew it. >> we are closer to the special master in the mar-a-lago case gettin