you know, the wuhan government could have canceled the banquet.d not do it. they refused to do it. my guess is that the order to not do anything unusual came from the very top, you know, some very senior-level officials in beijing. >> narrator: on january 19, the head of the wuhan cdc was still reassuring the public. >> (speaking chinese): ♪ ♪ >> narrator: neither wuhan officials nor the chinese central government have specifically answered for why they were still downplaying the outbreak and allowing these mass gatherings and travel. ♪ ♪ by january 20, it's estimated that more th 80,000 people in the country were infected. ♪ ♪ on state tv, the government finally acknowledged that the virus was spreading human to human. ♪ ♪ the news was delivered by the revered 83-year-old doctor zhong nanshan. >> (speaking chinese): >> (speaking chinese): >> zhong nanshan is very respected. to have him go on cctv to disclose this, to be the first person in china to say that this is what was going on, was jaw-dropping. and that was when cases started to skyrocket

, in fact, it's called what happened in wuhan, it's a tremendous book. it's written by shari. markson charlie see investigations lead writer at the australian and ahead of investigations and host of shari on sky news australia, which is a very popular. we can news show. she's also a very award-winning journalist. just went to walkley awards in australia and the keith murdock award for journalism. and the 2020 news award for investigative journalism. she's got so many awards effects if i rate them all i will eat into time, but she certainly deserves an award for what happened wuhan i found this book spell binding myself having lived through it learned learned a lot and recommend it to all and so today we're going to do. an interview with shari and instead of asked her to start. you know, what caused you to investigate what happened wuhan before almost any other? journalists in the world and you know, how did how did this come to pass? david it's great to be with you, and i'm so honored to be joining the hudson institute for this event. so thank you so muc

fine telling us to get out of wuhan now. but how?w, but how? must've been a really scary. unsettling _ now, but how? must've been a really scary, unsettling time. _ now, but how? must've been a really scary, unsettling time. looking - now, but how? must've been a really scary, unsettling time. looking back| scary, unsettling time. looking back on it now, what you think about it? are you grateful and away you were able to get out pretty quickly? i think at the time we were grateful that we were able to get out. in hindsight, i think perhaps we probably would have preferred to stay there, certainly the zero covid strategy they have adopted in exchange for smaller lockdown is that a more isolated does it seem to have worked better. but then at the same time, are zero covid strategy only works if every single country in the world is on board with it so whilst economically countries can still continue, obviously, there are then issues with tourism, etc. if we want to go back to our home in china right now, we would have to quarantine for

in mid-march, wuhan registers zero new covid-19 cases.er, on april 8th, authorities begin allowing people to leave the city, officially ending the lockdown. in the time since and with less than two weeks to go before the winter olympics in beijing, china is determined as ever to stamp out the virus as it prepares to host the upcoming games. so, senior's david culver was there and he joins me now live from beijing. none of us can forget your incredible reporting throughout that. of course, david, let's talk about how china's covid policies have changed since that massive lockdown of wuhan at the start of this pandemic two years ago, and what it will mean for olympic preparations just days away from those olympics. >> reporter: that's right. we're nearing closer and closer, rosemary. as i think back to our time in wuhan, i believe it was january 22nd, the day before that lockdown, an unprecedented one at that, we did our live report from there. our one and only. it was speaking with you. shortly thereafter, a few hours later, got the call,

what you know of the lab in wuhan? how much could be in nature?? i'm 70:30 or 60:40. another scientist at the meeting dr. robert gary of tulane university is more adamant quote: i really can't think of a plausible natural sion scenario where you get from the bat virus or one very serious to it ncov where you insert exactly four amino acids, 12 nuke low tied that all have to be added at the exact same time to gain that function. that and you don't change any other amino acid in s 2. i just can't figure out how this gets accomplished in nature in the lab perfect 12 base insert that you wanted. fauci and others point to evidence the virus may have originated in a seafood and wild animal market in wuhan. any scientific consensus is complicated by the market being shut down and scrubbed clean by chinese twhorts crucial evidence destroyed or hidden from international scrutiny outside access to the lab is also restricted condition census reached on the experts on that call, quote, one. don't try to write a paper at all. it's unnecessary. or, two, if you

didn't have much — wuhan the country didn't have much experience _ wuhan the country didn't have muchoutbreak— much experience dealing with the outbreak but _ much experience dealing with the outbreak but now- much experience dealing with the outbreak but now it - much experience dealing with the outbreak but now it is - the outbreak but now it is different. _ the outbreak but now it is different, it _ the outbreak but now it is different, it is _ the outbreak but now it is different, it is better. - the outbreak but now it isj different, it is better. she the outbreak but now it is different, it is better. she is in a city famous _ different, it is better. she is in a city famous for - different, it is better. she is in a city famous for its - in a city famous for its merciless army of terracotta warriors, xi'an, but normal life of 30 million people there has come to a halt. there is fresh evidence that some people have just had enough. fresh evidence that some people havejust had enough. the fresh evidence that some people have just had enough. the crowd clashes with police at a com

there is an uneasiness felt throughout wuhan. an idea how seriously people are taking this seriously to leave wuhan and get out before public transportation is strictly limited. this is a sense of trying to navigate new normal, post lockdown, how to figure out exactly they will be able to move forward and yet at the same time find some sense of normality. >> fantastic from david culver. right from the beginning, cnn. he joins me now. how are things going on, especially with china's zero covid policy, how effective has it been from your vantage point? >> reporter: isa, the previous reports made it feel how far we've come from that, but in many ways we're very much in the same place where the wuhan lockdown put us. and that was the zero-covid strategy. what we're experiencing today, but that same zero-covid approach. on the eve of the olympics, it is going to remain in place and could be in place several more months. it's had its impact and people are still feeling the result of what was ultimately sparked on that january 23rd, 202

>> at least one of the doctors did not sign that view of the wuhan virus. came from a larks part of the research, to publishing an article in nature magazine kind of discounting the lab-made theory. as you said, calling it a conspiracicy. one highly respected scientist would not sign it. you actually published in part an email from former nih director francis collins to dr. fauci from april 16, 2020, and the subject line reads conspiracy gains momentum, referring to that lab leak hypothesis. this is from collins. i'm wondering if there is something nih can do to put 24 very destructive conspiracy down with what seems to be growing momentum. i hope the nature article on the genomic sequence would settle this. it's a shiny object that will go away in time. congressman, it was a bad bet. didn't go way but the most significant question you pose in your email is did they alert anyone in the white house or hhs about this lab leak theory, and if not, all these prominent people suggested it on february 1. why did they not? . >> that's the million dollar question. w

they have flights from wuhan to new york and wuhan to milan but they cut off flights from wuhan to beijing wuhan to shanghai. why is that? we know for a fact they were trying to screen and prevent evidence from getting out. we've not been able to get into the lab or see original investigations into the coronavirus and that is a problem. kennedy: they have destroyed a lot of the samples, they granted no access and i know fauci said we can't push too hard. we actually are not pushing hard killed millions of people and prolonged a global pandemic. we need to push harder, a bipartisan commission of senators and congressmen and women to get to the bottom of this stop attacking our own government when obviously is the chinese communist party that has the most explaining to do. your explanation and your journalism has been fantastic, thank you. you can view brett bears boards on foxnews.com and i suggest it, it's really enlightening. they're going into your three of the pandemic and debate about masks and schools are still going strong in a new post doctors argue it's time to make masks fentanyl

wuhan is going on lockdown.on. we weren't the only ones. crowds already building. the world about to learn what china's version of a lockdown looked like. a city of more than 11 million sealed off, people confined to their homes, the streets empty, a metropolis seemingly locked down in time. hospitals flooded with panicked patients. military-like mobilization followed. in days, cruise built field hospitals and quarantine centers to isolate the infected. the lockdown lasted 76 days. looking back, this was the start of china's zero covid policy. after leaving wuhan and returning to beijing, my team and i continued our reporting isolated in a hotel room for 14 days, an early sampling of what's now so familiar, quarantine and work from home. >> you can even do it in slippers. >> reporter: today in china, 21 days is standard quarantine for international arrivals with some cities requiring additional time of isolation on top of that. that's if you're able to even get into the country. in february 2020 chinese official

bombshell document suggesting he intentionally downplayed the wuhan mably theory.ople pay the price for his arrogant? it administration and experts have been publicly pushing the theory that covid evolves in nature, another exotic animal and

two years to the day since china locked down the city of wuhan, beijing applies a �*zero covid' policyit prepares to host the winter olympics. new zealand's prime ministerjacinda ardern is postponing her own wedding, after placing the country on the highest level of covid—19 restrictions hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world. britain's deputy prime minister says russia will face severe economic sanctions if it installs a puppet regime in ukraine. dominic raab was speaking this morning after the uk government said it uncovered the plot by moscow — amid rising tensions over a possible invasion. russia has sent tens of thousands of troops to the ukrainian border in recent months — and the uk has warned that the it will face serious consequences if there is an invasion. moscow has accused the uk of spreading "disinformation". here's our diplomatic correspondent, paul adams.(tx american weapons arriving in ukraine, 90 tonnes of what washington calls lethal aid. others including britain also sending supplies. hardly enough to defeat an invading russian army but t

if what you know if the lab in wuhan, how much could be in nature?another scientist at the meeting, dr. robert gary at tulane university is more adamant. "i really can't think of a possible natural scenario where you get from the back virus or one very similar to it to an c.o.b. where you insert exactly four amino acids, 12 nucleotides at all have to be added at the exact same time to gain this function. that and you don't change any other amino acid in s2. i just can't figure out how this gets accomplished in nature. of course, in the lab it would be easy to generate the perfect 12 based insert that you wanted to. >> shannon: dr. gary would soon change his tune, there is so much to this story. if you want to watch the rest of bret baier's investigation, check it out at foxnews.com. it's time for kevin corke to come back, he's got some secrets. apparently some couples are keeping money secrets from each other, what have you found out? >> i am gob smacked by this story. as you know having an affair is certainly one way to record a relationship but it'

>> everyone of the world knows that it's called the wuhan virus for a reason. it started in wuhan.ere they were investigating viruses. it is not take a rocket science or scientists to tell us that it's probably in the lab. the question is what is the relevance of the origin right now? >> geraldo: it will catch them eventually even know they scrubbed the market, described -- they probably killed the interns of the lab will probably walked out with the stuff on the shoe one day. fighting the consequences of the worldwide infection now. i don't believe that this is such a big momentous revelation. but what is the crime greg? >> jailing people to go to work. >> dr. fauci and his team funded research in wuhan. america funded it. >> from the nia. >> it was sloppy, and it created mass chaos and how people are dead. >> all they had to say was when we all knew who escape, sorry. this is on us. and then you fall on your sword in your resign. >> its not summing that the entire scientific community thought was a good idea. it was a small cabal of people including dr. fauci backed by big pharma

when covid hit wuhan, the country didn't have much experience dealing with the outbreak.. she's in xian, a city famous for its motionless army of terracotta warriors, but normal life for 13 million people there has come to a halt. there's fresh evidence, too, that some people have just had enough. crowd clashes with police at a compound in xi'an, where they were put in lockdown for 35 days. a couple of men are taken away. assessing the overall impact on people's lives, economic and psychological, is almost impossible. all of this is part of a massive effort to stop a few thousand new covid cases from spreading. and in terms of the official reported case numbers, it seems to be working. china's leader xijinping hailed the economy's resilience earlier this week, saying he is fully confident about its development. so is zero covid in china the new normal? other small and frequent disruption, but not like a massive shutdown. so for china, it seems to be working. china is still manufacturing construction equipment. all these activities can be isolated, so that's why zero covid

two years to the technique special... day since china forced the city of wuhan and its ten million citizenso lockdown, we have a special report on how beijing is containing the virus. there does appear to be widespread support for the government policy on covid because you get this, it looks quite normal, but nobody knows the answer to the big question, how long will it go on for? and the actor and former governor of california arnold schwarzenegger is involved in a multi—car pile—up on sunset boulevard in los angeles. britain has accused the kremlin of planning to install a pro—russian leader in ukraine, as fears of an invasion grow. the foreign office in london says a former ukrainian mp is being considered as a potential candidate, along with four other politicians, who it says have links to the russian intelligence services. russia has 100,000 troops on ukraine's border, but denies it intends to invade. james waterhouse reports now from the ukrainian capital, kyiv. the friendship of nations arch, built by the soviets to celebrate the closeness between russians and ukrainians. that crack

i think he funded the lab in wuhan and in all likelihood thi virus came from. i think he's ignored natural immunity, i think he's told people to wear cloth masks when they don't work great i think that puts people's lives at risk . if you're an 80 -year-old man, wearing a cloth mask you're putting yourself at risk becaus tony fauci has been lying to you . than he goes after other scientists so i think he's abusing his office fraid yes, w go after him personally because he attacked others personally with his office. >> what is said stunning is apparently dr. fauci believes h is beyond reproach, that he cannot be questioned if you do question him, you might as well be one of the rioters on januar like he referred to the senator. what about just that. no accountability fauci. >> he went when step further today before he was saying he was science in your attacking science, now you said if you're attacking me or encouraging violence against them. he said it to the wrong person. i was at the ballfield when steve's glee slingshots, i had staff member 10 feet from me i

wow, i remember your incredible reporting from wuhan at the very start of all of this.r reporting from beijing. many thanks to both of you. >>> despite a slight easing of restrictions, belgians still took their anger over covid rules to the streets of brussels. authorities in belgium say some 50,000 people demonstratesed against current covid restrictions on sunday. clashes between police and protesters led to at least a dozen arrests and police using tear gas. they also used water cannon. according to authorities, three officers and 12 demonstrators were hospitalized because of their injuries. >>> governments around the world have been trying to figure out how to overcome vaccine hesitancy and skepticism. since data shows vaccines are the best protections against coronavirus. now some plan to hit the unvaccinated where it hurts the most, in the wallet. cnn explains. >> reporter: it just got more expensive to be unvaccinated in austria. the country's parliament passed a measure to make covid-19 vaccinations mandatory for all adults. >> translator: if we want to break th

two years to the day since china forced the city of wuhan and its 10 million citizens into lockdown,e have a special report on how beijing is containing the virus. there does appear to be widespread support for the government policy on covid because you get this, it looks quite normal, but nobody knows the answer to the big question, how long will it go on for? and the sherpa brothers returning home after becoming the first nepali team to reach the south pole, as they try to achieve the hallowed explorers�* grand slam. the uk government says it has uncovered a plot by president putin to install pro—russian leadership in ukraine, amid increasing tension over a possible invasion. moscow has urged the uk to stop — as it said — "spreading nonsense". russia has over a hundred thousand troops on ukraine's border, but denies it intends to invade. james waterhouse reports now from the ukrainian capital, kyiv. the friendship of nations arch, built by the soviets to celebrate the closeness between russians and ukrainians. that crack was painted on by activists a few years ago as relations betw

the wuhan institute of i have rolling. i have rolling. kennedy: that's the one. dr. was a best on siriusxm, and he said this today. >> we always have to keep an open mind on this, marc, as always. but it if you talk to the real card-carrying molecular virologists and molecular biogen cysts, they feel that the evidence and the circumstances weigh very, very strongly that this is a natural occurrence in the sense of jumping from an animal species of bat maybe to an intermediate with host to a human. kennedy: what cards are they carrying? membership to dr. fauci's secret volcano lair? and why does he stick so rigidly to the natural occurrence theory? here with me tonight, fox news medical correspondent and author of "covid: the politics of fear and the power of science, "dr. marc siegel is back. welcome back, dr. siegel. >> hi, kennedy. great to be with you. kennedy: did you buy it? >> well, listen, i know him for a long time, and i've always felt that he's saying what he thinks. and, but, you know, you never know what anybody is saying, do you? and he did the say at th

so for all the money they gave the wuhan lab they didn't get oversight capability.didn't know what the chinese military was doing there or what their own scientists were doing. elizabeth: that is the point. let me back up. when senator kennedy asked dr. fauci about that he admitted there wasn't oversight of what the u.s. funding was used for in china. there was little tracking of that u.s. taxpayer money and how it is used for supervirus research. dr. fauci admitted that in testimony. his agency, the niaid also towed "the wall street journal" last year, we, it is impossible for us to track how china uses the money. in other words he is hotly denying to senator rand paul in testimony saying we did not fund gain of function research but, but they have. we've seen the patents. we've seen the government grant money, kt. we're looking at it. there have been 11 lab experiments where supercharged pathogens were created since 1992. so it has been out there. it has been out there. why does he continue to deny what government documents show? >> i don't think they ever expecte

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taxpayer dollars that were being used to fund activities in the wuhan lab. why certain decisions were being made in conflicts with the world health organization. i would urge the leadership, these agencies to be trans- parent and how taxpayer dollars are used, the importanceow of following the science. i also believe we've seen science involved. we continue to learn. science is evolving to make sure we are being transparent with americans on the way. >> i think part of the issue you are raising is illustrated between speed into meticulously collected data on the process is trying to interpret. how do you balance that what you think is the best way for accuracy. >> you balance it by being honest and not making decisions, making decisionsak prematurely. i think about the cdc for example last august when they said the mass commanded in schools for example. when the cdc director called me and she gave me the heads up which i appreciate that they were going to be new guidelines masks in schools i asked her what the data was to back up that decision. the world hea

i believe it' most likely the pandemic comes from an accidental lab incident in wuhan. but it was the criminal cover-up by theer chinese government that aloud this stove fire to turn into a kitchen fire, and then a world fire. w if china can start this kind of pandemic and not -- and not allow any investigation. what kind of transparency can we expect inal the future. steve: it's unbelievable that we are where we are. and itt was all avoidable. >> totally avoidable. totally avoidable. if we don't learn the lessons we will be at this again very, very soon. that's why we have to act now. steve: thank you so much for your consistent voice on this. his a the other side of this is the mishandling of the pandemic. we have been talking about it for so long. it's just enraging to me that suddenly you are seeing i will seep out across the media, we know that masks don't work and schools mustn't be shut down. where were they when we were saying that from the start? nothing has changed. the facts haven't changed. and they are hoping we forget for all this stuff. >> i don't think t

fauci was warned coronavirus may have originated at the lab in wuhan.sglchlts. >> covered up covid for a year. there is not a real team from the who, to go in and find out the origins of covid. the communist party want to make sure it will never happen. >> cheryl: in be 2020, a doctor said it looked engineers. there was concerns over how the public would react to the news. and national institute of health gave funtd funding to that lab. >> carley: what is latest on president biden's vaccine or test mandate? >> cheryl: supreme court struck the vaccine mandate to businesses, rules are being removed and development occupational safety osha, is not giving up. in statement say they will prioritize resources to finalize permanent covid standard. it caused protest and job loss across this country. >> todd: cutting police budgets wasn'ts such a great idea. >> carley: what do you think? >> cheryl: after cutting $120 million in budget of sfpd, san francisco mayor refunding cops with overtime, this proposal, big reversal for her, she wants police to deal with soar

. >> carley: gop lawmakers want answers and e-mails squashing the wuhan -- are uncovered. ashley, good morning. >> ashley: senator rand paul and dr. fauci butting heads over response to covid-19. rand paul accusing dr. fauci of squashing the wuhan lab issue. >> to create a quick and devastating published takedown of three prominent epidemiologists and you keep coming back to personal attacks on me that have absolutely no relevance to reality. >> ashley: fauci accused senator paul of distorting everything about him and paul's quote, usual fashion, and went head-to-head with senator marshall and caught calling him names on a hot mic. >> my financial disclosures are public knowledge. >> office cannot find them, where will they be if it is public knowledge. >> he is happy to give it to you, if you ask. >> what a moron. >> having a bombshell report showing he did award u.s. tax clz to the wuhan lab and being called out about personal financial disclosure not being publicly available must be frustrating, calling me a moron during a senate hearing may have alleviated the stress o

senator paul accusing fauci of conspiring to squash the wuhan lab leak theory. listen. >> in e-mail you and i quote from e-mail, to create a quick and devastating published takedown of three prominent epidemiologists and you keep coming back to personal attacks on me that have absolutely no relevance to reality. >> carley: fauci accused senator paul of distorting everything about him in his usual fashion and went head-to-head with senator marshall regarding private business dealings and caught calling names on a hot mic. >> my financial disclosures are public knowledge. >> office cannot find them, where would they be if they are public knowledge? >> he is happy to give it to you if you were to ask. >> what a moron. >> ashley: something to hear. marshall saying, having a bombshell report show he did award u.s. tax dollars to the wuhan lab and being called out about disclosures, calling me moron during a senator hearing may have alleviated the stress, but didn't take away from the facts. the white house top doc could find himself in hot water. james comer demand a

the virus came from the wuhan institute of virology. almost certainly this virus was hoisted around the world. second, not only are we propping up one of the greatest human rights violating leaders in all of recorded history but we're putting our athlete ins a very difficult place. imagine one of them wants to say something about tiananmen square or talk about the wuhan institute of virology, the chance of them getting their exit visa will be low. beijing is the most survailed city in the world whether it's their cell phones or ipads or whatever it is, or something they're saying to someone else, you can bet the chinese communist party will be able to track everything they do, every place they go and everything they say. they'll record it. it'll be used for chinese communist party purposes for time ongoing. >> laura: just days ago, this is a little notice story in the "washington post," it revealed china was mining for social media data on westerners, a post review of bidding documents and contracts were of 300 chinese projects since th

that's coming up. >> notes of that hastily arranged meeting reveals suspicions of a wuhan lab leak are suppressed over concerns that public revelations of chinese involvement would do, quote, great potential harm to science and international harmony. the pandemic made teaching and learning really hard. but instead of working to help students safely return to the classroom, the san francisco school board focused on renaming schools and playing politics. and they've even saddled our district with a $125 million deficit. our children can't wait for new leadership. here's our chance for a fresh start. on february 15th, please recall school board members collins, lópez and moliga before our kids fall even further behind. >> martha: russia is promising, quote, retaliatory measures if the united states rejects russia's demands. as a potential invasion of ukraine continues to loom. those demands includes guarantees that ukraine and other soviet republics never would be allowed to join nato. putin also wants no nato forces present in the central european countries. what happens next now that th

we know all is circumstantial evidence points to a lab leak out of wuhan.any of this for phone calls with the leader of the chinese communist party. >> again, just another example of how weak this administration's. contrasted to president trump at president trump was a first president to truly stand up to china. to take the fight to china as they were not going to tolerate all the things you're doing international trade. are going to stand up and project strength from the oval office. now you have joe biden we get masks from china. i always go back to early on in the administration when our secretary of state was in anchorage, alaska meeting with his c counterpart in the treatment that secretary blinked and allowed the chinese, the lecture he got that would never happen to mike pompeo and a president trump administration. first they would not of tried it and maria if they did do it, mike would've got up and flip the table over and said you do notot talk to the greatest nation in history that way we are the united states of america were notny going to tolera

money went to that wuhan virology lab.t did we learn about his investments? >> i think we lower the target based upon dr. fauci's defensive posture and visibly shaking during that period this weekend, we are able to prove that dr. fauci was wrong, that he lied to congress, he lied to the american people about the public accessibility of his finances, but now we know why. dr. fauci and his spouse made almost $2 million during 2020. so during 2020, you recall if you are a bartender or a barber, you could make a living, but dr. fauci managed to squeeze together almost $2 million. and as you know, you alluded to it earlier in your show, a significant amount these vestments are investments in china, and hong kong. so we are over the target, we are drilling down, and another great issue on dr. fauci -- hope to talk to you about that someday as well. >> sean: did he or did he not have investments in china, senator? >> yes, he did bid significant investments in china through one of his mutual funds. >> sean: did he or did he not l

lab, man made in the wuhan lab. on may 26, i need to talk to the date, pretty close, the way facebook posted -- in light of the ongoing investigation to the origin of covid-19 and in consultation with public health experts we will no longer remove the claim covid-19 is man made or manufactured. so my point is who gets -- we have the top scientists at nih, people that a lot of us had faith in and quoted and now that i quoted them brought these things to my attention and now we know that what they were saying, if you look at -- sparse the words, they might be saying the truth but it wasn't accurate in terms of could it somehow, the wuhan lab was involved and now the preponderance of the evidence is that it is. ms. frederick, who do we look to for expertise if we're going to try to -- i've used all my time so you won't be able to answer -- but how are we going to define what misinformation is and who gets to define that? those are the questions we will have to address as we move forward. and i yield back, thank you. >>

"the washington post" fact checker how the wuhan lab leak theory suddenly became credible.td on "special report's" account "the washington post" profile while the criticism and personal attacks have shaken me a bit. there remains no definitive answer on whether he was wrong to call a lab leak unlikely. but the media's widespread rejection early on now looks like an exercise in group think. bret? >> bret: howie, thank you. tomorrow, we'll talk about the search for the coronavirus origins and what congress is or is not doing about that with ohio republican congressman jim jordan. ranking member of oversight. up next, the panel on some good news for president biden with the economy and the u.s. supreme court, plus the latest on ukraine. ♪ ♪ limu emu and doug.♪ and it's easy to customize your insurance at libertymutual.com so you only pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? limu? limu? sorry, one sec. doug blows several different whistles. doug blows several different whistles. [a vulture squawks.] there he is. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty, liberty, liber

while some believe it emerged in the wild, others theorize it escaped from a lab in wu wuhan.mpt for a full investigation inside its border while no evidence has emerged that the virus was of natural origin. house intel committee ranking member mike turner is back with us. congressman, it's pretty shocking to me with all the deaths of covid and how it's impacted the world that the united states congress, democrats are in charge of both the house and the senate, there is no investigation into the origins of covid-19. i can't believe it. >> right. well, if you go to the house intelligence committee republican web site, we've put up on that web site what our -- seven things that are known publicly and are a series of questions that need to be answered and get to the bottom of. one thing we know, this virus came from china. and we also know that, as you indicated, there's been no nexus or proven source for the virus naturally. one thing that i think needs to happen as you read all the articles of the scientists that are debating it is the united states needs to declassify all the

we know all the circumstantial evidence points to a lab leak out of wuhan, and yet joe biden has yetjinping. four phone calls with the leader of the chinese communist party, xi jinping. >> yeah. no, i think, again, just another example of just how weak this administration is. and contrast it to president trump. president trump was the first president to truly stand up to china, to take the fight to china and say we're not going to tolerate all the things you're doing in international trade. we're going to stand up and project strength from the oval office. and then now you have joe biden where we get masks from china, and you -- i would go back to early on in the administration when our secretary of state was in anchorage, alaska, meeting with his counterpart, and the treatment -- maria: yeah. >> -- secretary blinken allowed the chinese, the lecture he got from them. that would never happen to mike pompeo in a president trump administration. first, they wouldn't have tried it. and, maria, if they did do it, mike would have flipped the table over and said you don't talk to us that way

taxpayer dollars being used fund activities at the wuhan lab, or why certain decisions were made that were in conflict with the world health organization. there has been too many examples that have resulted in trust being broken. so, i would urge leadership at these agencies to be transparent , and accountable over how taxpayer dollars have been used, and the importance of following the science that has been a mantra. we have seen science evolve, we continue to learn more and we need to be open to where the science is evolving, and making sure we are being reds parent with ms -- being transparent with americans. caitlin: the pandemic has raised the tension between immediacy and the need to meticulously collect data and ensure we are getting things right. we have seen that in the drug approval process. how do you balance that? what do you think is the best way to balance the tension between speed and accuracy? rep. rodgers: you balance it by being honest, and not making decisions prematurely. the cdc last august, they said there was going to be a mask mandate in schools. when cdc direc

nobody is buying trumps wuhan lab theory. >> a lot of people on the right love that phrase. the lab. >> senator tom cotton -- said tom cotton keeps repeating a coronavirus conspiracy theory that was already debunked. "the new york times," senator tom cotton repeats fringe theory of coronavirus origins. not all journalists were so dismissive. >> it was the blindness of if i can put it that way, of our media. we are to polarize to see scientific issues for their own sake and without putting a political gloss on them. >> science reporter don mcneil wrote a 2020 piece, new coronavirus is clearly not a lab leak, scientists a peer the paper spiked it because of its own doubts. when "the wall street journal" reported last year on emerging circumstantial evidence of a chinese lab leak, and president biden ordered an intelligence probe, which turned out to be inconclusive, the media's approach shifted. his book lifted its ban. "the washington post" fact-checker help the wuhan lab leak theory suddenly became credible. fauci, who is declined to comment, said no "washington post" profil

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this guy's something interesting so i finally reach him and he says, you know, i just got back from wuhan and i'm working for the trump administration. so i said, ah, i'm gonna keep talking to you. that's amazing. i mean, he's he's a really interesting character and you started the book with him, right? so it was it really takes you into the action right away. so that was a really great choice, but you know, you said you were reading a lot of my articles but you know, it was crazy to be writing those articles because we were learning about covid every single day. so how did you make the decision to cover something that was changing on a daily basis? and how did you even begin to gather your information when things were changing on a daily hourly weekly basis? it was very hard for me to decide what to focus on it was i you know, so i talked to callahan and then i started writing a few essays here and there and i by march and april we knew that the only way to end this pandemic or to reduce the mortality was a vaccine but even then this this landscape was just it was changing fast as you sa