and the request was from the doctor, the bat scientist in wuhan, dr. ralph barrack, a scientist at unc who has done a lot of work with her, and ralph barrack, who i call -- now ralph barrack and peter daysack, i call him the bag man who carries the money to wuhan. and they take the coronavirus, puts a cyte that allows it to go to the human cells and we did the right thing and turned it down. wouldn't there be a clue, all of a sudden a virus in wuhan looking just like this. if you'd done this and wouldn't you immediately remember, oh, yeah, we were going to do that, but then we didn't get the money, wonder if they did it. not one of them reported this. do you know how we know about this research project? because a whistleblower at darpa told us about it and he said he looked for it in a file. he surmised it should have been in a file and it wasn't there. he looked again six months later after i had had an altercation with fauci and it was back in the file. he thinks they moved it initially and then it's back in the file. i don't know if he's talking abo

shi, the bat scientists in wuhan, dr. ralph baric, scientists at usc, who's done a lot of this work with her and baric, who i call now, ralph, eric, peter daszak, who i call the bagman a bagman that carries the money to wuhan. they ask for research money and 2018 from arpa to take coronavirus and put a furin cleavage in it. the site that allows it to get to cells. and remarkably, we actually turned it down. we actually did the right thing and turned down. but wouldn't that be a clue if a year later there's all of a sudden a virus going on in wuhan that looks just like this? if you had done this project, like let's say you're ralph baric and you're one of the scientists or peter daszak, wouldn't you immediately remembers, oh yeah, we were going to do that with them. we didn't get the money. i wonder if they did it. not one of them reported this. do you? how we know about this research project? because a whistleblower at darpa told us about it and he said he looked for the file. he surmised that it should have been in a fil

came out of wuhan. they were saying bat caves, 2,000 miles away, italy, france. came out of wuhan, the labs. i don't think it was done -- out of incompetence. i believe scientists said hello to his girlfriend, she died and people started dying all over

wuhan was hit pretty hard and the disease was this. we also have this evidence, we have evidence that a chinese doctor who's a general, he was in the military and february of 2020 a month after they said it wasn't transmissible and look the other way, there's a vaccine in china in february of 2020. nobody believes you can get one that fast, even mrna you can't dot it that fast and they do think the virus started in november or if you created the virus and working on the vaccine to that virus and then the virus got out, you could have been prepared and creates them in february of 2020 that doesn't work very well and in april of 2020, he mysteriously falls or is killed. falls from a building or was jumped or was pushed. two months later. we know he was working on a virus. we know he was working how to do this ande more infectious for humans and did our government help me find out this information and absolutely not. they've hid everything from the very beginning and continue to hide documents to this day and it's a rare demographic excep

it came out of wuhan. they were saying it came out of caves, bat caves, were sa bat caves 2000 miles away, came out of italy. it came out of france. now it came oualy,t wuhan, the labs. >> and i don't and by the way, i don't think it was done properly. ofoperly. of incompetence. >> that's what i think. i believe that a scientist went out, said hello to his s s girlfriend, and that wasd the end of that. she died and then people started dying all ovepeo the place. but who knows? who knows? i can tell you one thing. i got along with president xi, but i took in four hundred

that's your tax dollars going to wuhan here that is unacceptable.n we first found out abouthe virus, if you said that the virus came from the wuhan institute of virology, you were called a conspiracy theorist, you get centered on social media. say that■< it was the wet market. why? why? because a new that the government had been involved with this lab. tax dollars had gone there. what we know it came from the lab. we know that it's a trick tricks ■ the lie to us about that. they lied to us about all that you should with lockdown policies. they lie to us about the covid shot. remember they said he did take a covid shot you will not get covid? how true was that? not at all. now every boost you take your more likely result of it. and they would never talk about any type of side effect. think about this. any pharmaceutical that is put commercials, it's like the first 30 seconds of the commercial is like usually like unmarried 60-s walking on the beach or wherever, laughing having fun because this miracle drug, right? the next 30 seconds is like you coul

i said from the beginning it was wuhan and it was wuhan. i had a very good relationship with china. but we want china to manufacture here we dent want them to make their cars in china and you know, bob and i have these discussions all the time. there's pros ancones but not very many of them. the fact is, we want them to manufacture. we want them to spend money in this country. if they're going to sell cars in this country they should make them in this country. we want them to make them in this country. we want them to put our workers to work. thank you all very much. any other questions? reporter: you repeatedly said it's fallen off, i'm curious, now that you're here for the day what would you do if back that the white house to actually make it safer, carjackings, they killed one man. used to come to d.c. and it felt safe. you'd come from from nebraska, iowa, you'd say this is so beautiful. so safe. so nice. now you come in and have a good chance of being shot. they had thee people killed last week too. so you know, it's just -- the crime is -- has got to be -- you have to have stro

and we know they are doing gain of function research in wuhan.ribes it, that's in a private email. in public, to this day he still denies that they funded any gain of function research in wuhan. it's all n. an an entire lie. >> laura: we put money to he can ecohealth alliance spread that virus that killed 9 million people. >> # million people died here, 9 to 20 million people died worldwide. not one democrat has stepped forward. on the committee in the hearings where fauci is testifying, the democrats are still defending him and saying nothing to see here, it wasn't gain of function research. but it's all sort of parsing of words. the viruses they were creating in the lab were more infectious. they became more infectious and more deadly. more deadly and more infectious. if that's not gain of function research you are being dishonest. >> laura: really quickly, senator, the border deal that the republicans are cooking up that chuck schumer and apparently mitch mcconnell and others are going to agree to to that you say. >> it's a sell-out. it's goin

stuart: do we have absolutely firm proof that began in the wuhan lab? actual proof?stroyed the virus samples. when they submitted gene sequence to the and ih they call after the pandemic started and said delete those sequences. will have definitive proof but circumstantially, it is definitely something that would work in a court of law. stuart: i understand 40 states report high or very high levels of flulike illnesses. everybody i know has a cough or sick in some way. what exactly do we all have? >> probably 10% to 20% of the population has had some cold. common cold viruses that come in the winter are collection of viruses. rsv which peaked around thanksgiving and it is covid which is not one of the dominant viruses but one that would trigger, this is the normal seasonal virus type of increase we are seeing. even the cdc which has been criticized for stoking fear has said this is not out of the ordinary. stuart: forgive me for disagreeing but everybody i know has a hacking cough that goes on for weeks, everyone has the sniffles, it seems way above the normal level

that's your tax dollars going to wuhan. that is unacceptable.n the virus came, when we first found out about the virus, if you said that the virus came from the one institute of neurology, you are called a conspiracy theorist, you get censored onle social media. people like fauci recovering that up trying to say that it was the wet market. why? because they knew that the u.s. government had been involved with this lab and tax dollars have gone there. but we know it came from the lab. we know that that is the truth. so you lie to us about that. they lie tod us about all the issues with lockdown policy. you lie to us about the covid shot. remember they said if you take a covid shot you will not get the covid? how true was that? not at all. now every booster you take your more likely to get covid as a result of it. and they would never talk about any type of scientific think about this. any pharmaceutical that is put on the market when the wendy's commercials, it's like the first 30 seconds of the commercial dislike usually like married couple prob

came out of wuhan, the labs. i don't think it was done -- out of incompetence. believe scientists said hello to his girlfriend, she died and people started dying all over the place. who knows. i can tell you one thing, i got along with president xi. i took in 400 billion dollars of tariffs. biden wants to cut them. he got paid off. he got money from china, russia. you remember the debate chris wallace how is he doing i wonder. i said to biden. how come you got three and a half million dollars from mayor of moscow's wife. why are you spotting this. now it is a big deal. we are going to have a success hopefully i won't have time for retribution. mr. president, before we wrap up, they say article 1 of constitution, would you pledge the divest? that is what they were rep reporting? >> president: i run hotels. much money i gave back. george washington very rich man. people don't know that. in his white house they had an office. he had a business desk and country desk. you are allowed to do that. i didn't do it. i put everything in trust. if i have a hotel and somebod

trillion were spent, the death and destruction because of the gift from china that came out of the wuhan. that was a terrible situation. we had the greatest economy anywhere in the world by far, not even close. china was going to catch us in 2018. but i was the president. and we doubled up what we did with china and they know it better than anybody. he wasn't happy about it, but he did admit it. anyway, thanks a lot. we are going to have a big day today, but we are going to have a big night tomorrow. [applause] >> you've added a couple of events in new hampshire. was that a response to nikki haley's rise in the polls? mr. trump: say it again. >> was in a response to nikki haley's rise in the polls? mr. trump: whose rise in the polls? >> nikki haley. mr. trump: she hasn't risen to me. they had at the other day where she went up two and she was at 11%. i was at 69%. and i went up 7%. and they said, nikki haley surges. she was that 11%, so the headline was haley surges. that is why it is fake news, cnn. that is why nobody watches it. not for any reason. i like the people here, they are grea

fauci united states government did not fund gain of function research in wuhan.sts with the cia agree that in all likelihood covid-19 came from a lab in wuhan funded by u.s. taxpayer dollars. dr. fauci continue to deny this and i believe that to be a lie and hope he is challenged on that. he is worse than lying about funding it, supposed to be safety committee to review research on this. set up in 2017, they began funding research at behest of anthony fauci. began funding they set up safety commission and that research skipped that safety committee. i've been trying to get the nih to reveal gain of deliberation, they talk about it and have a weekly meeting and will not reveal who made the final decision. it will go down in history as one of the worst medical histories ever made in our history. millions died and related to funding decision by dr. fauci to fund dangerous research in china and they have given him a pass, i don't think history will be kind. i hope the deposition will bring more truth. he is evasive and he testified about him and others trying to sque

that-- -- came out of the wuhan labs. that was terrible.emember china was going to catch us in 2018. but we doubled up. what we did with china, and they know better than anybody. i know president xi better than anyone, and he said you are doing good. thank you a lot. we have a big day today but we are going to have a big night tomorrow. [cheers and applause] >> [inaudible] you've added a couple more events in new hampshire. was that in response to nikki haley's rise in the polls? mr. trump: she hasn't risen to meet. this is a typical cnn question. they had it the other day, where nikki went up a little bit, and she was at 11. i was at 69, and i went up 7. and they said, haley surges. she was at 11. so the headline was haley surges. that is why it is fake news cnn and nobody watches it. i liked the people here, the great people. >> we love you! mr. trump: we do want to send a signal to november. we are not even talking about anything else. we are not worried about new hampshire. in south carolina we are beating nikki by 30 or 50 points, and

the lab in wuhan has all the safety violations. so i think the big issue, why was dr.of this. by the way one other point. >> worse than ignoring, covering it up, not wanting it to be the prevailing narrative, the committee is probably going to say what are you trying to do protect the public from what, the truth. in 2012 somebody manipulated a virus where it could have caused the next bird flu pandemic, dr. fauci came out against it then he reversed himself and flip-flopped and started supporting all the research, this is going to come out in front of the committee. why were you supporting this research, why did you not want the public to know the truth. >> to senator paul's point a lot of the public statements from dr. fauci especially early on versus what he was doing behind the scenes and even writing down record, it is a dramatic difference. i think some of that will be teased out i would imagine during the q&a sessions. >> tanaka to ambush him, they're going to want to do it where there's a back-and-forth where he answers questions you never answered. guy: lisa i

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i don't know if that was directed from beijing or the mayor of wuhan.clearly had a dog in that race. there was a cover-up ordered in the early days. we are still finding out elements that were covered up. john: it's a difficulty for journalists in seeing reality when governments are twisting things. you're right about something that happened with you in pakistan. armed soldiers going out with you. donald: sorry. i'm confused? john: i'm shifting gears to something that happened with you about the difficulty of seeing reality when you are a journalist. the government is controlling things. you had local officials make sure that you were escorted by jeep full's of officials with automatic weapons. donald: i'm sorry. i thought you were talking about china. you are talking about pakistan. and polio. ok. john: right. it's a challenge as a journalist to see reality. donald: absolutely. i was being shown a potemkin village version of the polio vaccination campaign in pakistan. i was writing about it because polio workers were being killed while they were going

at that time , scientists did not know how long immunity from a vaccine created based on the wuhan strainshown: 2 years. the virus turned out to be too volatile, and protection gradually began to decline. this forced scientists at the gomaleya center to reconsider the design of the sputnik vi vaccine. now, as part of the activities of the gomoley center , a vaccine with an updated antigenic composition has been developed, which works relatively well. those strains that are circulating right now, and widespread vaccination, it, of course, would lead to the fact that significantly fewer people would get sick, and significantly fewer, of course, even fewer would be hospitalized and die. it is necessary for covid-19, according to its regulation , to equate the covid-19 vaccine completely to the flu vaccine, when the strain and definition are updated accordingly once a year. still about three to 3 and a half times the mortality rate from the influenza virus. the pandemic of the future in the center of homoley began discussed a year and a half ago. here they didn’t call it the mysterious diseas

if was he getting paid while we were doing these experiments in wuhan?, you know, again, it's suspicious and all of these things need to be looked into. i think dr. fauci started out as a person when really had the interest of the people in mind, but, you know, power corrupted, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. and you have to be pretty strong to resist that. maria: so what do you think happened when joe biden walked into the oval office? if we've got this myriad of problems that we're talking about, dr. carson is, from the border to worries over a loss of trust, to worries over potential criminality in the biden family. how would you assess where we are today 282 days before the presidential election? >> well, i would assess that we're in trouble, you know? when joe biden walked into the oval office on day one, he started doing things that were very destructive. just because they were things that were put in mace by president trump. in place by president trump. when you look at the border situation, that was largely under control. and he came in v

donald trump covid and wuhan and everyone said,the you think donald trump covid and wuhan and everyoneald trump won the election? >> it was it was a >> oh, it was it was it was a hoax. >> it out it was. and >> it turned out it was. and donald thought donald trump thought that. so lots he said have lots of things he said have turned out to be right. but not the he the election because he lost. >> don't know that, though. >> look, i'm sorry you're seriously saying didn't seriously saying i didn't say anything? >> i know that joe biden won the last year. no i didn't say that. >> what you saying? >> what are you saying? i'm saying may saying that donald trump may have maybe was have a point. maybe there was the that has. the point that he has. >> well, you'd let me speak, >> well, if you'd let me speak, i get through this. he i might get through this. he said that election said that the election was stolen. maybe there was something there. it something that went on there. it did dodgy. did seem pretty dodgy. >> something happened. >> something happened. >> nonsense. and >> that's complete

the first couple of people who started saying, you know, there's a virology lab in wuhan that's about respiratory viruses. maybe this was a lab leak. and the problem is, i don't know if the lab leak true. nobody knows if the lab leak is true. but what i do know is that my friends, my highly educated friends who suddenly came in and said, well, that's ridiculous. we know that it came from a wet market, were diluting themselves because it's like, what there's been some massive investigation of wuhan. how did the chinese government let us do that? that's amazing. wow. i guess we finally know this. but again, people aren't stupid and they look at that going, listen, i don't know if this is true, but i know you don't know this is true and you shouldn't be actually going after people's careers with this level of certainty. so i think that the a lot of the covid mistakes came from not leveling with the public about what is known and unknown, but instead acting like we had a much greater level of knowledge than we did. is devastating to trust and expertise. and we need experts. we can trust.

i don't know if that was directed from beijing or whether it was directed by the mayor of wuhan.i don't really i had a had a dog in that race, but yeah, there was a cover up ordered in the early days and we're still finding out there may be, you know, elements that are covered up. yeah, but there's a there's a difficulty for journalists in seeing reality when governments are twisting things. and you write about something that happened with you, i believe it was in pakistan with arms, soldiers going out with you. sorry, wait, wait. i'm i'm shifting gears to something that happened with you about the difficulty of seeing reality when you're a journalist and a government is controlling things and you had local officials made sure that you were observed you were escorted by jeeps full of officials with automatic weapons. oh, you're talking about i'm sorry, i didn't realize you were. i thought you were talking about china. now you're talking about penetration of pakistan and polio. yeah. okay. all right. so it's a challenge as a journalist to see reality. well, absolutely. no, i was b

it came out of wuhan.y were saying it came out of caves, bat caves, were sa bat caves 2000 miles away, came out of italy. it came out of france. now it came oualy,t wuhan, the labs. >> and i don't and by the way, i don't think it was done properly. ofoperly. of incompetence. >> that's what i think. i believe that a scientist went out, said hello to his s s girlfriend, and that wasd the end of that. she died and then people started dying all ovepeo the place. but who knows? who knows? i can tell you one thing. i got along with president xi, but i took in four hundred billion dollars in tariffs and taxes from china. and one of the reasons china's not doing so well today is because of those tariffs and biden wants to cut them. >> you know, he got paid offn by chinawa after all. >> so he wants to help the people. they gave him a lot of money, but he's a manchurian candidate in the truest sense. >> he got money from china. he got money from russiaa,. >> you remember the debate where chris wallace how is the o h

then we find out america is funding the wuhan lab. nobody seems to give a crap about this.iological weapon. we now have a vaccine that we are finding out causes problems. nobody is talking about this and i'm wondering, why are we funding a wuhan lab, the united states, this is insane. gov. desantis: i'm the only one running that will bring accountability to all these issues stemming from covid. the fact of the matter is, it was under the trump administration that they revoked the ban on gain of function research. it had been banned. and they revoked it under trump. that was a mistake. fauci, directed money through the eco-health alliance to woo hand institute of for allergy to fund gain of function research. that's your tax dollars going to woo hand. that's unacceptable. when the virus came, when we first found out about the virus, if you said that the virus came from the woo hand institution of virology, you were called the conspiracy theorist, you got centered on social media, people like fauci were trying to say that it was their wet market, why, because they knew that t

ib int so from investigat the lab in wuhan. >> laura: i remember, we covered it. he said specifically china is a model of pandemic management with the most barbaric human rights violations in modern history. by the way, he is a liar in terms of being the health was administer before he was head of the w.h.o. of ethiopia when he covered up a outbreak. this is absurd. they have a dismal record 15 years ebola, repeatedly. there is no same reason why wers would sign on to somethingge access. we have leveraged -- the w.h.o. funded by many nations and weon are the number one funder. $400 million plus per year.oney the u.s. taxpayer money is funding them. number one note to funding atth e all for the w.h.o. until a chl of leadership. the biggest thing on the tablead with w.h.o., we need to investigate what happen and bring some accountability to their growth confidence over malfeasance. >> laura: dr. atlas, countability number one. and that includes dr. fauci andd everyone else for what they didm thank you.tr democrats have come up with a novel argument against trump.an

that's the ultimate mistruth and wuhan lab and remember what dr.aid, you don't need masks and wait you do. the explanation was to be without the equipment they neneeded and department want healthcare workers to go without it and afraid it would deter people that need it from getting masks and he willingly l l liedd that's charitable saying that to the american public and that was his motive in doing so and this was the ultimate lie. will: the man that launched himself at las vegas judge on wednesday and a judge ordering himself after any and all means necessary after refusing to leave his cell on alarying last thursday. another court appearance on tuesday for the sixth new felony charges stemming from his violent courtroom outburst. new jersey fire fighters containing a blaze that's been burning for more than 24 hours s and four alarm fire sparking yesterday at industrial park near newark liberty park and most investigations not beginning till the fire is out. there's a graphic putting it into perspective and 93 of them were nfl games. kayleigh: la

with chinese scientists. 2 years ago, the american press presented evidence that the laboratory in wuhan was suspended only in july last year. it remains unclear why the united states withdrew from this project; was it some kind of information leak or some kind of laboratory accident at work. recently , deputy speaker of the state duma irina yarovaya said that dangerous viruses are being developed in secret american laboratories, and the cause of new outbreaks of pandemic diseases should be sought in washington. russia has been and will always be against the development of biological weapons. but we understand perfectly well that today these developments on the territory of the united states and those laboratories that created them, they were created precisely by the pentagon, the military department, this is a real dangerous threat. american billionaires are getting active. the press writes that bill gates owns the world's largest mosquito breeding factory in colombia. gates himself says that insects must fight dangerous pathogens such as the zika virus or yellow fever. allegedly , farm

of course, true that fauci's institutes of allergies andie infectious diseases provid funds to the wuhan institute of virology but it's gain of function something being seen as -- >> diabolical, and irresponsible and part of a plot. so the fact that actually graduate has been given for perfectly necessary, crucial for search around h1n1 whe talked about the flu and chinese were absolutely rightt to say -- not transparent at the early stages of koad. covid. you put all of the bits together you have a conspiracy theory and i think on the right there was a sense of which anthony fauci unlike debra birch making the president looking foolish -- >> easy task. [laughter] >> when they're recommending bleach -- so scapegoats so someone in this who has a legitimately -- authority who claims to be sort of understand the situation better than you and courses in that view economic disruption you know, it's really -- >> these are the elements persistently inrs the book and n thee league that will be called commitment disruption. >> they are set to overtime but i didn't want to really -- build for it a

by a show of hands, was the wuhan lab the likely origin of the covid pandemic? agree that the hunter biden laptop story as reported was indeed accurately reported in was not russian disinformation? >> greg: talk about flipping the script. but what is his obsession with raising hands? let's ask him. please welcome back to the show g.o.p. presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy! [applause] we've got more great questions, so let's get right to it. "vivek, i like you. if you're not going to be selected as our general presidential candidate, will you agree to a vp selection?" >> vivek: well, i appreciate that. by the way, i'm talking to you from a gas station in western iowa in the middle of the blizzard where we pulled over, so just to provide some context here. >> kat: that was my question! 's before i wanted to address the elephant in the room there. [laughter] a gas station. >> greg: vivek, can you give me a 2-liter bottle of fanta? >> vivek: i was always a dr pepper guy, we'll bring that next time in the studio. the truth is, to address the question, i have a thi

but oneli thing i know is only three grants were ever looked out and none of them were the grants in wuhan says this, here's an interesting article and it looks like it came from animals. all the evidence looks like it came from animals. was this an accidental thing or something he just made a mistake and we didn't get it reviewed? no, it is a lifelong philosophy. it's more dangerous, lethal, contagious. this has been going on foror a decade. it started with a famous research of the avian flu in the netherlands in 2010. the avian flu if you've ever seen when they have the reports killing the millions of chickens and primarily china but other places it's very contagious. not very contagious to humans but when it affects humans it kills about 50%. it's a bad disease. it's adapted for chickens, birds, and it's very transmissible. so the research in the netherlands said i wonder if we take the flu and give it some mutations if we could make it contagious throughgh the air and lo and behold he did that but people became alarmed like this could be a recipe to create something that could kill ove

really interesting is that it was a big conspiracy theory in march 2020 that it leaked from a lab in wuhan. but in private doors he is now saying it is not a conspiracy theory. really? it's not a conspiracy theory? where were you the past three years? >> a lot of people were calling people crazy and that it was dangerous and also racist. it wasn't racist to blame it on wet market in china which is a cultural thing. it's not racist to blame their culture. but if you blame a lab, that is racist. kat, how many times did you run into these people, the people that would give you the look if you weren't wearing a mask? this happened at fox. i would get into an elevator and somebody would get out. i was used to that, but you? it started in the late 90s. >> it literally happened yesterday. >> it is so wild. the social distancing thing was treated so seriously. it was literally treated like life or death. >> and outside too. >> if you didn't listen to it you were a murderer, right? for him to say that it just kind of came from nowhere, it just kind of appeared to. you need to have more evidence of

the media and why not and why would that be inappropriate and by show of hands, literacy was that wuhanrybody agree that the t hunterhe laptop story was indeed accurately reported not russian information. >> sue and yes let's talk aboutl flipping the script,ip but whats this subsection with raising their hands my back was thus given the please look back, to be presidential candidate, vivek ramaswamy and we have a great question so let's get right to it, any us, and covid-19 alikeor unit flock would selective is her general president candidate, will you agree, to a vp selection. >> fully appreciate that in talking to you from a gasou station in iowa we pulled over w so just provide some contexte pu here right now so all the campaign events. driving around in a blizzard. [laughter] and so i would address thei wa elephant in the room there. vivek: i'm at a gas station. greg: okay can you give me aof 2-liter bottle of fans a. [laughter] vivek: i was always a dr pepperl guy, but wwae will bring it back next time to the studio you knon from the truth is, you did address bozeman's question i t

. >> bill: this is american taxpayer dollars that some people believe were going to the wuhan lab for unquote, gain-of-function research. did he cop to that or did he sidestep it? >> he side stepped that because he was saying when he had the interaction with senator paul saying we're not doing gain-of-function research in china, now he is saying that he has a different definition of gain-of-function research that means it definitely creates a pandemic. and no one else has that definition except now for he and dr. collins. and it wasn't until they were questioned on this and pushed on this that they changed the nih website to change the definition of gain-of-function research. it sounds like a cover there because it didn't happen until later. >> bill: you are a doctor, right? >> yes. >> bill: we made decisions based on his expertise. for the entire country and in some cases maybe for the entire world. when will we hear him in a public hearing be asked these same questions? >> well, we are having him coming in for a public hearing. the exact date is coming up later i think in early spri

pandemic was not a cause of natural spillover, it was actually a cause of research that was done in the wuhanresearch poses an -- type of research pose ifs an inherent threat. and we're not convinced with the colleagues that support it that it's really necessary. we have good science capability right now, good a. i. capability. we think we can deal with new pathogen threats when they come. we don't have to try to create them to try to understand them. will: dr. siegel, can we do do our to -- i think it's called steel man instead of straw man, those that support gain of function. the idea in their minds is what? and c. redfield began -- dr. redfield began to hint at it there, i think. oh, no, or we need to anticipate what could come along, create a vaccine. but in the process they create what could come along. >> will, as usual, you nailed it. basically, gain of function of this type is let's manipulate a virus to see if we can create something that nature could or couldn't do so that we can stay ahead of it so we can defend against it with hypothetical treatments and vaccines. now, first, the

you also see and labs with the security included in wuhan, china and we don't have any control over whatese places or how they're overseen or what their goal is. not only that is going on in universities and not only that if i tell you that i think artificial intelligence could accomplish this without any viruses being involved, at first you might say okay why are we using viruses, the answer we should not be using viruses at all, even artificial intelligence and computer models has a risk because it could create a roadmap this is a dangerous situation. stuart: is sound like the genie is out of the bottle and you could not push it back in or control this. if it's going all over the world universities here and there, you cannot control it. >> rogue states could be involved in it could cause bioterror, you know what it does call for, not just cutting down on it, the world health organization saying they're worried about these acts and we need to form a pandemic treaty around the world which would have no teeth just like the w.h.o. didn't warn us about the covid pandemic at all, i think we

itself from investigating the lab in wuhan. >> laura: i remember we covered it. >> in 2021.trageous they called china, tedros specifically said china is a model of pandemic management with the most barbaric human rights violations, you know, since we in our modern history. by the way tedros is a liar in terms of being the health administer before he was head of ho in ethiopia covered up a coal lora outbreak. it's absurd. dismal record for 20 years. dating back ebola, zwick carrasco repeatedly. no sane reason to sign on to something like that. we have leverage. the w.h.o. funded. we are the number one funder, $400 million plus of u.s. taxpayer money is funding them and the bottom line is this no to centralized agreements. no to any more funding at all to the w.h.o. until there is a change of leadership. and the biggest thing on the table with w.h.o. is we need to investigate what happened and bring some accountability to their gross incompetence. >> laura: thank you. all right. >> overt malfeasance. >> laura: dr. atlas, accountability number one. that includes fauci and every

opposite to do reports coming in after all of the denials, this did not have an in the scientists at the wuhanhina, dublin that that woman in china for her work with back viruses did meet with the nih and dr. anthony fauci in 2017. >> yes it is remarkable that they had the blueprint, for taking about coronavirus, juicing it up and serving a gene at the site and the entire blueprint for frank and signing covid-19, was sitting in the united states government, the application was submitted. patient was not release when rand paul rate address were so should not be a secret is no remorse and people want some closure understandably and they have lost family members just lived through back and you had a ten -year-old boy, unable to visit his brother dying of leukemia in the hospital, two years, because people did not allow the visitation in the hospital and soldiers were kicked out of the military for not getting the vaccine. people are understandably angry pretty. liz: angry and dr. anthony fauci's going door to door in places like maryland, telling people to enter the shots were safe but one thing

that bats that nest 900 kilometers from wuhan did not miraculously land and a wet market defecate into an animal eat it and spread a virus. if you did not buy that they're there in by the way ignore the labs that have to have a bio weapons program. ignore that and believe they flute night or climbero that theory you wrote anything or said anything differently you would get banned. we wrote a of the book in order for it to get public anywhere in america we could not directly challenge that. we had to -- this is america guys. we cannot challenge that. we had to leave breadcrumbs. lo and behold vanity fair approved comes the publication comes out of nowhere it admits the virus may have been man-made. may not have been a natural phenomenon when it was okay for them to say it. there were willing to let you say the truth they are willing to approve it. we cannot be free that way prevents the intent for us not to be free that way. these people want to be free of disagreement they want to be free of they do not want to have to argue with you.ly we cannot win in the arena of ideas if there is n

lawmakers remain interested in uncovering how researchers through grants spent taxpayer money at a lab in wuhanna. it recently discovered a woman met with u.s. officials about the issue back in 2017 roughly three years before the pandemic. lawmakers also raising alarms how the national institutes of health conducted reviews of the grant money handed out to researchers across the globe. there was recently an inspector general report that found the nih did not insure that foreign grant recipients completed an submitted required annual audit reports saying work had been done to track the money. before leaving the government fauci said he has an open mind about the origins of covid-19 and intelligence committee has offered mixed opinions here but warned we may never know for sure where the virus came from. >> dana: mark meredith, thank you. >> bill: he was out of office defense secretary lloyd austin taking flak for keeping his hospitalization a secret. deputy of the pentagon without knowing austin was hospitalized took over some of his duties. critics say it is incredible that the commander-in-chi

prior to the klein virus if you don't mind, it came of wuhan, the labs and by the way, i don't think it was done, i think waits done out of incompetence. i believe that scientists went out said hello to his girlfriend and that was the end of that. she died and people started dying all over the place but who knows? i can tell you one thing. i got along with president xi but i took in $400 billion in tariffs and taxes from klein and one of the reasons china is not doing so well today is because of though tariffs and biden wants to cut them. he got paid off by china after all. he a manchurian candidate in a true sense. he got money from china he got money from russia. you remember the debates, chris wallace, i wonder how he's doing when i said to biden i asked how come you got $3.5 billion from the mayor of moscow's wife. now it's turned out to be a big deal. i tell you this, we are going to have a success that's so great that i won't have hopefully i won't have time for retribution there. will be success. [applause] >> mr. president, before we wrap up, there is this report, house democ

not permitted to say anything online that the virus was not natural, a herd of bats released from wuhan did not land in a wet market and spread a virus. if you didn't buy that theory -- ignore that had to have a bioweapons and believe these bats flew 900 kilo meters and you would get banned. when we wrote a chapter about the virus in the book, in order for it to get published in america, we couldn't directly challenge that, this is america, guys. we couldn't challenge that. we had to write around it and only a few months later "vanity affair" comes out of nowhere and admit that the virus was manmade and not a natural phenomenon when they were willing let you say the truth. we can't be free that way and that's the intent for us not to be free. these people want to be free from disagreement and argue mentation. don't want to argue with you. we can't win in the arena of ideas if there are no ideas. someone who works at one of the largest conservative media companies we begged and republicans had total control of washington. you would think anybody was sensitive to online censureship. we be