so whener you hav ten jews prayinor readingthe torahou have jerusalem now youhave jerusalem and you've go to protect it >> rose: therefore protectit becomes e critical question. >> right and therefore u have a nuclear israelhichike a hundred yearago you couldt imagine a nuear bomb, youcouldn't agine a jewish ste with the mostdvanced weapon it is world has ever known. >> rose: how d that happe >> well, i think basically... i a weirway, the idea of anrmy was really importt to israel. it wasn't just an army to defen the nation. early on, the idea was that that jews should fight t defend themselves. they were seen inurope as having a hisry in european ghettos and they bece sort of unphysical. you know, in their heads instd ofn their bies. that was thedea. you can argue whether onot it was true or not but that was the idea othe sort of diaspora jew who lived in exile. and the early zionist very much waed jews who were physical, who defend themselves. so having an army became more than just about defending the country, it became a statement of the new kind of jew that was going to ce out of