you cannot just overlook the fall of yugoslavia. not overlooked because my generation remembers the lives in yugoslavia. >> the past is never over. no matter how much people would like to believe it is. now that -- the last war criminals are extradited. there is talk of a new yugo- sphere. if only it weren't for the war. >> they say that it is not what it used to be. we are at the end of the program. we will see you again next time, i hope. until then, but by. -- goodbye.

my generation still remembers the lives in yugoslavia.last war criminal is extradited to the hague. there is talk of a new fear, and economic space which offers certain advantages. >> they say that nostalgias not used to be. with that, we're at the end of the program. we will see you here next time. goodbye.

mean told discovery it sounds very possible because this is based on you could slide tactics to yugoslavia. type that would be it's going to be military moves like the military but a lot of cooperation agreements and there was a lot of change from the u.k. slots here so this could very well be to groups like to steer it's a mixture of local tactics and maybe even no real warfare. anyways you could see some of the young men who would be in your outside know you're walking around. town it really is. you tell that you told us that there are the snipers outside of the downstairs so who do you think they might be targeting. they were shooting at us putting up her issue let me putting up a press a shot of. why he showed it to you and your fellow journalist might be the target. you have here is firing the firing started again. firing started here or. i'm sorry. but. i'll get my question asked you earlier so you told us that the sniper is there outside of the hotel and targeting you why do you think is this is the reason why do you think they're targeting international journalists or hold up an es

taught that libyans the libyan military in yugoslavia military had a lot of cooperation agreements and there was a lot of training from the yugoslavs here so this could very well be that you slot model is used here a mixture of local tactics and maybe even though the guerrilla warfare. anyways you could see some of the young men who were living in or out. so i know you're walking around. town it really is. you tell that you told us earlier tonight that there are not a verse outside of that there is a terrible so who do you think the earth might be targeting. they were shooting at us putting up a shoe at me putting up a press so i shouted. why do you show it in an airfoil journalist might be the target. yeah there is firing out firing started again. firing started again or. i'm sorry. i'll get my question asked you earlier so you told us that the sniper is there outside of the hotel and targeting you why do you think is this is the reason why do you think they are targeting you international journalists more hold up an escapee in a stick in need mr sarkozy wants a reason to sent french

let me explain kosovo its wars is part of serbia slash yugoslavia. it's so complimented. so yugoslavia was part of serbia and milosevic cracked down very heavily in response, they took over and the kosovo albanians built this remarkable parallel society of schools, colleges, hospitals and very pleuralisic and was named the mother teresa association worked together with christians and defied milosevic for a better part of a decade. unfortunately, the west ignored him. also, unfortunately, he did not achieve the full potential of what such a campaign should have, been able to achieve. was too passive. was not active enough in referring out and trying to convince his opponents and in the end it became stasis. and as a result a guerrilla movement went up and nato intervened and partly because of hindu is semi independent. it's recognized by a number of employees but still i think it is a remarkable movement. it was needed at the time and it's spared kosovo the scale of bloodshed at least that other countries in the balkans such as bosnia here the figures were as bad as they w

the authoritarian government was removed from yugoslavia. suddenly the serbs and the other ethnic groups were at each other's throats in the yugoslav area. or when the soviet union was removed. suddenly all of the various parts began fighting with one another. he would have said of course, once you remove the authority from the top down, then these various ethnicities, these differences will come forward. and they make democracy very difficult because people have willingly surrendered some other self interest. and that's not easy to do. the founders would have been, and they became very pessimistic about the ability of other peoples to become democratic. they thought the french were following them. tenure slaters. and, of course, many french leaders thought so. lafayette, who was at the outset, was one of the leaders of the french revolution, 1789. he said the key to the bastille, the bastille been to prison, and, of course, bastille day in france is still july 14, still celebrated as the beginning of the french revolution. he said that key

we allowed things like the rwandan genocide and milosevic's campaigns of killing in the former yugoslavia to go on with out assistance when people were begging for help. western countries were too heavily interventionist often for the wrong reasons. there is a danger of tipping back the other way as well. i do not think these things will go well or easy or need or pretty -- need to or pretty. i do think this is a case where this would be a humanitarian catastrophe if people had not done something. having been on the ground and listen to libyans and knowing that, we have to be cautious and not get stuck. tavis: since your here and you're the guy that runs "the globe and mail", what role have our neighbors' canada played in this process? >> this is a case where canada. -- canada is militarily involved. it is stuck there. stayed out of iraq and was involved in the bosnia and cause of a conflict. it is a small military but it is controversial in canada. anything that involves the military is never treated as a cause for enthusiasm. it is a debate. tavis: their justification for going into the

expect the same thing as you saw it happen in yugoslavia and in eastern europe there will be a massive privatization take place the public economy that could down the government built over forty years which included public subsidies for housing education health care all those things will be privatized the oil the oil fields will be handed over to private companies for private profit death squads will come in to clean up those who might still have a commitment to a social wage or a community wage and this is what we have to look old to privatization deregulation . and the like. where the intervention proves is that. where it intervenes and where it doesn't mean it intervenes in any country that tries to use the labor the natural resources and the markets of their own country for their own self development and their own communal development rather than throwing it open to law. yes and the humanitarian intervention is not really humanitarian they demonstrate that if you give a power like nato of three four or four. sports is then usually system houses oz bottles everything else killing pe

expect the same thing as you saw it happen in yugoslavia and in eastern europe there will be a man soon privatization take place the public economy that we could down the government built over forty years which included public subsidies for housing education health care all those in need to be privatized the oil the oil fields would be handed all group to private companies for private profit death squads will come in and clean out. those who might still have a commitment to a social wage or communal wage and this is what we have to look forward to and that was the real intention was to overthrow the government it wasn't any humanitarian concern it wasn't any concern for democracy or human rights. we can now cross to washington where our t. is. standing there by is it now you have some reaction coming out of the white house on the developing situation in tripoli tell us a little bit about that. well shon washington has been a key player in the fight for tripoli that's for sure is part of nato and as we know what this point to nato has done the heavy work actually most of the work attacki

the same thing as you saw it happen in yugoslavia and in europe there will be a mention of the sage taking place in public economy that because the government took over forty years which included public subsidies for. education health care for all those we privatized the oil the oil fields will be handed over to private companies private profit death squads will come in and clean up. those who might still have a commitment to a social wage or community. and this is what we have to look forward to and that was the real intention was to overthrow the government it wasn't and humanitarian concern it wasn't any concern for democracy or human rights france germany and italy are again calling on khadafi to officially step down in the face of the rebel storming of tripoli there are fears of more bloodshed amid rumors france may use its military forces to try to capture the libyan leader barges daniel bushell joins us now from paris could have bring us more of the european reaction to what's going on in libya now. evaded all raising the question the french president has taken the leader they have

same thing as you saw happen in yugoslavia and in eastern europe there will be a massive privatization take place the public economy that could be government built over forty years which included public subsidies for housing education health care it all goes in to be privatized the oil the oil fields would be whole group to private companies private profit this will come in and clean out. those who might still have a commitment to a social wage work. and this is what we have to look forward to and that was the real intention was to overthrow the government it wasn't any humanitarian concern it wasn't any concern for democracy or human rights president sarkozy of france as well as the german government are gan calling on gadhafi to officially step down and the face of the rebel storming of tripoli there are fears of more bloodshed amid rumors france may use its military forces to try to capture or at the leading leader daniel bushell's in paris with the latest president sarkozy called on gadhafi to immediately give up what power he has left to order his forces to cease fire and to give

really appreciate it and many arabs do what russia has done but again we are seeing the scenario of yugoslavia here being replayed all over again it doesn't matter what kind of concessions and reform you're implementing the syrian regime has called openly for dialogue but the opposition groups are refusing to engage in such dialogue because they are being strengthened by regional and international callers telling them that they should not engage in dialogue i have seen firsthand in the city of hama the kind of damage that the armed gangs that call themselves peaceful demonstrators have inflicted on state institutions be it that the street corners or as the central police station but what i wanted to say was there were slogans written on the walls during the time they controlled the city saying now all dialogue with the regime and they are not employed as that and dialogue they have already said they want to bring down assad and they want to bring down the syrian regime and in this regard i would like to draw to that than some of your viewers that while in tunisia and. both regimes being allies

choose to appear in court for a procedural hearing of the international tribunal for the former yugoslavia faces a trial over the alleged killing of almost eight thousand bosnians or seven it's in one thousand nine hundred five hearing comes a day after gordon hydrogen there was i'm leader of the rebel serbs in croatia pleaded not guilty to crimes against humanity. steve jobs the founder of electronics giant apple has stepped down as the company's c.e.o. after a long battle with you on this he'll be replaced by chief operating officer tim cook jobs who fought and survived a rare form of pancreatic cancer returned from medical leave in march the latest version of the i pad he will however stay on at the world's largest technology company as chairman of the port. well a superstar football striker has arrived in russia to join the north caucasus club and shiva hutch callar some eto'o cameron native and four time african player of the year has agreed to a reported salary of ten million euros per season for all the details now we're joined live by our visa of course well that might be the quest

former bosnian serb military commander about to return to the international tribunal for the former yugoslavia in the hague later on thursday night it was accused of responsibility for the killing of almost eight thousand bosnian muslim men and boys at seventy in one thousand nine hundred five it comes a day after goran the. leader of rebels in croatia pleaded not guilty to crimes against humanity at the court. therefore time african player of the year some will eat her has been agreed now to a deal with the russian team. for a record salary of thirty million dollars a year and the arrival of the superstar striker is a massive coup for russia's premier league and puts are firmly on the map was that one of the world's most ambitious clubs artie's medina question of a has more. the latest news coming from of the football club is really capturing the imagination of the world of football and it really seems that we are witnessing possibly a new dream team gathering on the russian soil as we can now officially say that a long awaited transfer of the interim millon striker atto has been completed an

former bosnian serb military commander has to return to the international tribunal for the former yugoslavia and the hague later on thursday lot of his accused of responsibility for the killing of almost eight thousand bosnian muslim men and boys at srebrenica in one thousand nine hundred ninety five it comes a day after goran hadzic the word timely year of rebel serbs in creation pleaded not guilty to crimes against humanity the courts. are being shaken by tuesday's earthquake the east coast of the united states is bracing itself to be hit by hurricane irene had the rain and winds earlier battered parts of the caribbean sweeping through cuba and the dominican republic is expected to become a category four hurricane as it passes over the northwestern bahamas own route to the east room u.s. coast no deaths or injuries have so far been reported. these railway military says its aircraft have struck a number of targets in gaza with four deaths confirmed by the palestinian side twenty people including a child were wounded it comes after a palestinian militants fired rockets into israel on wednesd

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that still at large and so let's deal with these people first people who was against iraq against yugoslavia and then we can talk about president assad ok well thank you very much for your insight there neil clark journalist and broadcaster thank you. now israel has closed its border with egypt following a string of shoot outs that have left thirteen dead and over thirty injured while the attacks took place to the southern resort city of with gunmen opening fire on a passenger bus a private car as well as israeli troops artie's correspondent paula slayer is in tel aviv with more. and israeli best was fired on by gunmen using a k forty seven in a separate incident and israeli patrol vehicle drove over a roadside bomb and in a third incident a private vehicle was fired at by and now we are hearing reports of a fourth incident but this is not clear at this stage as you can well imagine the reports sometimes conflict each other this does seem to have been some kind of shootout between the israeli army and militants but at this stage the figures we are receiving people dead and twenty six people

bosnian serb military commander is were to return to the international tribunal for the former yugoslavia in the hague later on thursday was accused of responsibility for the killing of almost eight thousand of course muslim men and boys in one thousand nine hundred five it comes a day after their war time leader of rebel serbs in croatia pleaded not guilty to crimes against humanity the court. after being shaken by tuesday's earthquake the east coast of the us is bracing itself to be hit by hurricane irene but heavy rain and winds earlier battered parts of the caribbean sweeping through cuba and the dominican republic is expected to become a category four hurricane as it passes over the northwestern bahamas and wrote the . most of the eastern u.s. coast no deaths or injuries have been reported so far. the fourth time african player of the year samuel eto'o has agreed a deal with a russian a team. for a record salary of thirty million dollars a year the arrival of the superstar striker is a massive coup for russia's premier league and puts angie firmly on the map as one of the most one of

it has pleaded not guilty during a pretrial hearing at the international tribunal for the former yugoslavia he exposed commander is accused of killing almost eight thousand bosnians it's written in one thousand nine hundred five he's noise claim there sixty nine year old client is too ill to stand trial and the hearing comes a day after gordon hatch the one time leader of rebel serbs in croatia pleaded not guilty to crimes against humanity. and israeli military across struck a number of targets in gaza overnight with four deaths confirmed by the palestinian side twenty others were also wounded despite a two day old cease fire comes after palestinian militants fired over a dozen rockets into israel on wednesday the latest round of violence broke out last week when gunmen reportedly from gaza and pushed cars and buses in the latter leaving eight people. a superstar football strikers arrived in russia to join north caucuses cloud. someone who's from cameroon and a four time african player of the year reported salary of ten million euros per season marty's correspondent millionaire has all the

to try pleaded not guilty during a pretrial hearing at the international tribunal for the former yugoslavia on thursday the ags both me and said c'mon days accused of killing almost eight thousand bosnians a tribe or need say one thousand nine hundred ninety five his lawyers claim that sixty nine year old client is still able to stand trial the hearing comes to days after goran hardage the water time leader of rebel serbs in croatia pleaded not guilty to crimes against humanity. a state of emergency has been declared in four u.s. states as the hurricane irene nears the country's east coast also he's in new york have ordered the evacuation of people from low lying districts while in north carolina around two hundred thousand people have already fled early in the week irene back to the bahamas and the caribbean with winds gusting to almost two hundred kilometers but our meteorologists say irene is a once in a generation. but it seems that crucial say two militants have been killed in a string of rocket attacks this comes after school palestinians were killed during as tried to state the israe

because montesquieu would not be surprised what happened when tivo was removed from yugoslavia. suddenly the serbs and the other ethnic groups were at each other's throats in the yugoslav very apropos or when the soviet union was removed. suddenly those parts began to fight with one another. once you remove the authority from the top down, then these ethnicities come to the floor and make democracy very difficult because people have to willingly surrender some of their issues. that is not easy to do part of the founders became very pessimistic about the ability of other people to become democratic. they thought the french were following them. 10 years later. many french leaders thought so too. mafia who at the outset was one of the leaders of the french revolution, 1789 thomas sent the key to the best deal which was the prison and bastille day is still july 14th celebrated as the beginning of the french revolution. said that key to george washington and hang steady in mount vernon. that is his way to say you are responsible for our revolution and americans assumed that they were

anyone with any sort of military history remembers yugoslavia where they use the ferris wheel. could see three people in the window. nice. >>shepard: it sounds like we have always known there is a lot of waste there and it is clearer in recent years, and they are telling us something around we official estimates $2 billion? exit is actually $6 billion that is missing. to be honest if they admit to $6 billion you can only imagine what the number really is. the guys that i know who have been over there in the going and are still there now are just saying, it is unbelievable what happens. and the biggest problem is that there is in actual nation building. so there is a country, iraq. it is all again to heck and back and there is a phrase "our turn to eat," so whoever is in term, they say it is my family's turn to eat now. >>shepard: 17 tourists on a bus, and you are a journalist, and some went this to vacation. what did they take away? >>guest: well, it's depends. this was a mix of people. there was a woman on there, a belgium woman who was madly in love and had a ten year relatio

>> well, as long as we had general trade sanctions like in iraq and yugoslavia, it's been more difficult ground. remember, cases like south africa and this one as well in syria, where the folks on the ground have said, please, bring on the sanctions. it's very important to have your external support. it's also the case that up until now with the petroleum sanctions today, these have been targeted sanctions on financial assets that the strength of the u.s. position, it seems to me today, is that these have reached much deeper into the government and the elite, and your question, when have they didn't successful? a dom natural dictator has never falling from sanctions. it's weren't of the policy tools. the exception in the second level. folks who are the ministers and some others, get them to change their mind. >> local there. susan del percio speaking. the question i have -- >> hi, susan. >> -- now we have sanctions in place. that's all very good, but it's just the european nations behind them. what we were told and the reason we need these to goes forward in libya, we also have the arab

when the caldron -- the lilicame off the caldron of yugoslavia, when the lid came off the caldron inraq we saw the same thing. edmund burke said before we congratulate people on their freedom. we should see what use they make of it. so let's see and wish h em well, but see what they do and what is now the residue of a civil war on a tribal society. >> do you share mr. will's skepticism, rajiv. >> yes, the real story is yet to come. the libyan operation is a different model of seeking regime change on the part of the u.s. governmenen one far more multinational that involved some of our european allies in a more dominant position in the air campaign, although the u.s.srole was incredibly significant in getting us to where we are. but, what comes next, and in this new model here, where we -- you know, we didn't put boots on the ground to force a regime change, how now do we help to birth this new nation over there? tripoli is in the throes of a power shortage. there's no clean water. there's revenge killing, thehe's a lot of instability. the rebels need to stand up a police force. they

constitution because montesquieu would not be surprised what happened gwyn tivo was removed from yugoslavia. suddenly the serbs and the other ethnic groups that were asked to each other's throat or when the soviet union was removed. suddenly all of those parts began to fight with one another. once you remove the authority in these various differences come and they make democracy very difficult because people have to willingly surrender and that is not easy to do. they became very pessimistic of those who become democratic. they thought the french were following them 10 years later by a french leaders thought so too then you have lafayette at the outset was the leader of the french revolution who sent to the best deal that was the prison and best deal day is still celebrated as the beginning of the french revolution and it paying sedate yen mount vernon that was his way to say you americans are responsible for our revolution they thought they were responsible for all of the revolutions that took place fed they were err the vanguard to spread democracy throughout the world on the rise a spira

look at them now, they are responsible for the breakup of yugoslavia.ve a presence in the balkans and more able to achieve in world war -- the second world war. guest: in the last 10 years, germany has emerged as one of russia's most reliable backers. often, germany has come in as a mediator more often for the new russia than one might expect. host: the next call is on the democrats' line. caller: i have a question. when the soviet union was in power, they were making aircraft carriers. there was a man on the show from the united states-canada institute of studies. eventually, russia and the united states held true -- drills in the pacific from 1994 to 1998. you can look it up. there was a lot of work done between the two nations. do you think this will be used as a tool against terrorism? guest: russia has been cooperative with what bush labeled the war on terror. they have allowed supplies to come through the land route for afghanistan. it is probably the most significant way the u.s. is benefiting from its relationship with russia today. there have b

the only time she could have zero confidence of yugoslavia with russia.and what we had told them was the soviet union had collapsed and were the big guys now. we'll take care of this. thank you. and now is his reference to you spit on us, now why should we hope you because we had come to the russians to help us with a negotiated settlement to the kosovo conflict. finally after two days fair, vladimir lukin spoke up and said if we really wanted to hurt you with no fear of retaliation, with lunch and sl beyond and checked on your grade for six months or so. the third ranking communist was there, alexander shabazz, a tall blonde russian and he smiled and said one weapon won't do it, we have some spares. i think at that time that something like 10,000 spares. what was he talking about? by the way, curt weldon was fair. he said of course they heard it, but didn't understand a thing he said intel was trained payday. what was he talking about? something that would shut down our power grid, our communications for six months or so and they would be no we fear of r

authoritarian governments were removed from yugoslavia and suddenly the serbs and the other ethnic groups were at each other's roads in the yugoslav area, so or when the soviet union was removed. suddenly all of the various parts began fighting with one another. once you remove this authority from the top down, then these various ethnicities and these various differences are accounted for and democracy is very difficult because people have to willingly surrender some of their selfish interest and that is not easy to do. the founders would have been, and they became very pessimistic about the ability of other peoples to become democratic. they thought the french were following them 10 years later and of course many french leaders thought so too. lafayette, who was at the outset one of the leaders of the french revolution in 1789, he sent the key to the bus deal, the bus bastille been to prison and it was bastille day and in france it is still july 14 that is still celebrated as the beginning of the french revolution. he sent becky to george washington and it hangs today in mt. vernon. that

authoritarian governments were removed from yugoslavia and suddenly the serbs and the other ethnic groups were at each other's roads in the yugoslav area, so or when the soviet union was removed. suddenly all of the various parts began fighting with one another. once you remove this authority from the top down, then these various ethnicities and these various differences are accounted for and democracy is very difficult because people have to willingly surrender some of their selfish interest and that is not easy to do. the founders would have been, and they became very pessimistic about the ability of other peoples to become democratic. they thought the french were following them 10 years later and of course many french leaders thought so too. lafayette, who was at the outset one of the leaders of the french revolution in 1789, he sent the key to the bus deal, the bus bastille been to prison and it was bastille day and in france it is still july 14 that is still celebrated as the beginning of the french revolution. he sent becky to george washington and it hangs today in mt. vernon. that

all be surprised by what happened tdo was removed from the authoritarian government removed from yugoslavia and suddenly the serbs and the other ethnic groups were at each other's throats in the yugoslav area. so, the soviet union was removed suddenly all of the various plots began fighting with one another he would have said of course once you remove this authority from the top down, then the ethnicities and the differences are going to come to the floor, and the make democracy very difficult because people have to willingly surrender some of the selfish interest and that is not easy to do. the founders would have been -- and they became very pessimistic about the ability of other people to become democratic. they thought the french were following them. and of course many essential years fought so, too. lafayette, who was at the outset was one of the leaders of the french revolution of 1789. he sent the key to the bastille be in the prison, and of course in france it is still july 14th, they still saw the british as the beginning of the french revolution. she said that for george washingto

the only country that had the real confidence of yugoslavia was russia. and what we have told them was the soviet union had collapsed and we are the big guys now, we will take care of this, thank you. and that was his reference to you spit on us, now why should we help you, because we've come to the russians to help us with a negotiated settlement to the kosovo conflict. and, finally, after two days there, vladimir lukin spoke up and he said if we really wanted to hurt you with no fear of retaliation, we would launch an slbm, we would shut down your grade, year two medications and your six -- your grade for six months or so. the third ranking communists was there, alexander, a tall, handsome blond russian. and he smiled and said, if one weapon won't do it, we have some spares. i think at that time did something like 10,000 spares. what was he talking about? by the way, curt weldon was there. kurt spoke russian. kurt said did you hear what he said speakers of course i heard him. i couldn't understand what he said intel was translated. what was he talking a

the only country that had the real confidence of yugoslavia was russia, and what we told them was the soviet union had collapsed and the big guys will take care of this now, thank you. and that was his reference to use it on us now why should we help you because we had come to the russians to help negotiate a settlement to the kosovo conflict. finally after two days, vladimir spoke up and said if we really wanted to hurt you with no fear of retaliation we would launch an slbm, shut down your grid commodore communications and the grid for six months or so. as a former ranking communist was there, alexandre, a tall handsome blond russian command he smiled and said if no one within won't do it we have some spares. i think at that time they had something like 10,000 stairs. what was he talking about? by the way curt was there and spoke russian. he said did you hear what he said? of course i heard it but i didn't understand it unless it was translated. >> what was he talking about? something that would shut down our who were critical of our communications for six months or so and no fear o