so, they set up a court for yugoslavia, war crimes in the yugoslavia. limited to yugoslavia after 1991, which is preposterous. when the general assembly approved the draft statute for that court, i was in geneva at a meeting of the international law commission. i'm not a member, i was there doing my usual lobbying. a proud moment was when the statutes came through. one of the staff members brought it to me and said, this is your work. times when there is progress made. it may take a long time, it is slow progress. it is limited to have a limited jurisdiction. we need a permanent international court, and i'm working on that. there is a gap in the international legal order. , security council, is a comprehensive bringing together of 20 years of careful thought. i share with the public. all of my royalties are given away. i will not make a penny on this book. that book is out to educate the public on the need for planetary thinking. there will be no peace for anyone, anywhere, until there is peace everywhere. that is my conviction. i tried to avail the blu

think the best case outcome i could come up with for syria, would be a partition like we did in yugoslavia some kind of very loose federation. i would say that's the best case. i wouldn't put the mortgage on that, either. >> but russia just got involved. just inserted its troops and is making its presence known there. if they are not ready to count tennance that for instance, a devolved syria, can you negotiate that around the table? >> i think we're a long way from any settlement. what russia cares about is selling weapons -- they have had a 50-year relationship with the assad family, selling weapons and getting access to military facilities, and if you have a state that had that part of the country that they would have their naval base, i think they would be willing to live with that. i think putin has taken on more than he bargained for. we're already seeing -- docket forget russia has 20 million muslims and they are starting to trickle into syria, and i wouldn't be surprised if you saw conflict renewed in russia. he has a really bullseye on his back as far as the entire shoeny world is

there were the trials for yugoslavia which convicted major war criminals there but in general, there haven't been that many. documented the principalses could be applied if it comes to that against isil? >> absolutely. somewhere, there is a quote. i am going to detit wrong. i think it says raw is the tribute that hypocracy pays to virtue. something like that. forgive me but everybody condemns genocide that's crimes, mass atrocities have been stig m matized in principle. whether that's a harm house towards their some day being rarer, i don't know. clearly isil violated every rule in the book and ripped up the book. will there be trials? them be gone by this then. >> to the tribunal get established? >> and try buenalds require victory in war or can they be done by a lawfully process in the 90s. >> jonathan bush, good to have you with us. thank you. ? >> thank you. >> the vatican is putting 5 people on trial after accusing them of leaking and publishing secret documents that revealed church mismanagement. the defendants are two generalists who cited the documents in books along with thr

look what's happening at the old yugoslavia. >> could i bring charles payne in? shut up, charles. pipe down. your view, you're just worried about what the temptation is for any group to come in and not get with it. and that was the case in france and britain. >> most of these european countries that accept a lot of them in, you see these setup ghettos with a bunch of satellite dishes. i get confused on the term multiculturalism. i think america is great because of all the vast, different cultures that are in this country. so if anyone thinks that's bad, that it should be a white-only country or something like that, that's what it sounds like, and i think that's dangerous stuff. >> first and foremost, people should learn the damn language. please. and pledge your allegiance to the country. and don't hate your benefactor. think about the tsarnaev brothers, the guy in kentucky. these guys were brn here or come here. the guy who masterminded this thing in belgium. how could they live in these western countries and enjoy the kind of lives they did and have the kind of resentment and ha

the first time was in the kosovo conflict after the end of the former yugoslavia in the early 1990's.he second such mission was in afghanistan. that is still going on in some sense. this is the third time in 60 years that germany is sending its troops into a mission into a fighting zone. sarah: germany very much a country that is cautious before it gets involved militarily. when we discuss this military involvement and compare it to the french and russian involvement, u.s. involvement, how big is this? reporter: of course there are no plans at present for the german planes that are being deployed actually to drop any bombs, to shoot. their role will be to take photographs, to provide intelligence, to provide information about targets for the various other forces involved, and also the refueling of planes, especially of french planes, and the protection of this french carrier that is in the mediterranean. it is in some sense a support mission, but at the same time it is in a war zone and if german forces do get shot at, they will return fire. it's very much a robust deployment. sarah:

originally bosnian nationals, who came in the 90s during the falling apart of yugoslavia. >> half a dozen in 18 months is not a winning strategy, and the second point is, our fbi director himself testified that we don't presently have -- the issue here is that this resettlement program is being botched by the administration's failed syrian and national security policy. we should never be having to have this kind of uprising if the administration wasn't engaging in what clearly looks like amateur hour, and not a serious attack on handling the -- >> i would like to get a context for how the refugee program works, because we're inflating a lot of issues. it's 3 million refugees since 1980. >> where do they come from? >> from all over the world, from vietnam, the soviet union, and many countries in the middle east. most ream, the franzlaters and others who helped us in iraq, they have been brought here by veterans and others who are still at risk to be safe in the united states, so this is a program that spans the globe. i will also say that the refugee settlement program is different. we see

it's location has helped define the past and its presence. 1991 when yugoslavia was falling apart, the church tower was hit, civilians were killed. for a few days it was urban warfare. four years on, on the refugee route when syrians and others arrived people went out of their way to offer them food and clothing. people like this person who was trying desperately trying to find somewhere for his wife and kids to hide. the town helped because they knew what so many syrians had gone through. >> translation: at that time we were experiencing the same destiny as the refugees are now. we were being attacked by our own people. >> reporter: over the alps into austria and hidden in the mountains is another place. this group of men come from every possible conflict zone you can imagine. some have been here for many months as their asylum claims are proceed saysed. they're in good condition for a new life working here and despite the dislocation, many refugees must feel, it's as peaceful as anyone running away from war could hope for. >> translation: you live with different people and you joke t

a word, basically leads to -- >> you have people in this country who are islamic who come from yugoslavia, you have people from pakistan, bangladesh, indonesia, islamic people come from all over the world. 1.75 billion people. they are not, if you bring into a subset of arabs even. it's 300 million. let's get down to arabs. who -- then down to the small number of people who had -- given reason to be thought of as possible cell members like let's face it the french have be rounding up a lot of people. >> americans at the moment are smothered in fear. there is a palpable fear of another terror attack in america. there is the abc news has the survey out today in fact, that showed that something like 80% of americans are expecting a terrorist attack in america. >> have you seen the numbers worse. people believe they will be hit. those blow my mind. have a nice thanksgiving, thank you. up next, congress and the white house battle over the refugee policy in the wake of those paris attacks. i'll speak with one congressman who represents a district that includes a significant captain syrian commu

nuremberg, yugoslavia, (unintel phrase) for the past. icc for the future and permanent. it completely different game. and you don't, until icc, until nuremberg, international relation were relation between states. inside a state, a sovereign could kill whoever he wanted. and, and now this change it. started to change with nuremberg but now it's a hu, it's a sea change because icc is now joined by 123 states. so and the security council refer in situation like libya and darfur. so it's moving. it's, it's we're doing the global revolution in legal terms. >> what were the early days like? >> early days? >> yeah, early days. >> when i start? >> yes. >> six, six empty floors, two employees. everyone's thinking it would be closed. >> thinking it wouldn't last. >> no, everyone was thinking it would be closed. yeah, i would do nothing. in, in those days, i was at harvard teaching. and one colleague of mine told me, advised me not to take the job. said, "look, luis, it's great honor. but you have to reject it. " say, "why?" "because you will be nine years at the hague doing nothi

in 1991, when ewin yugoslavia ws falling apart it was she would in an attempt to stop an independentve vinnie. the church tower was hit. civilians were killed. for a few days it was urban warfare. 24 years on, it is on the refugees route. when syrians and iraqis began arriving people went out of their way to offer them food and clothing. people like this who during the shelling in 1991 was trying desperately to find somewhere for his wife and kids to hide. he says the town wants to help because they know just a little about what so many syrian have his gone through. >> translator: at that time, we were experiencing the same destiny as the refugees are now. we were being attacked by our own people. >> reporter: over the alps in to austria and hidden in the mountains is another expression of solidarity. this group of men come from every possible conflict zone you can imagine. some have been here for many months. as their asylum claims are processed. it's set up so the men are in good physical as well as mental condition for a new life working here. and despite the dislocation, many ref

we saw yugoslavia break apart along racial, ethnic, and religious lines. that is coming from syria. tom: francine lacqua, i just c-min it a -- went to a us. i was thinking about the tragedy of the plane being shot down. whether it is or is not isis, they lay claim to it, which means russia's pivotal point in the region, they just upped the ante. what will russia's end game be in syria? james: it goes right back to what tom and i were just discussing. the potential breakup plays right into the russian strategy. in the see a carve-out western part of syria along the mediterranean border where the gas and oil resources are centered, as well as the warm weather mediterranean ports. russia will play strongly for a , and the worstd outcome for all of us would be continuing chaos. political activity, diplomacy, what is going on in vienna is what we can hope for right now. not know whato happened, but if it does get confirmed that isis shot down that russian plane, will that be a turning point in the way that russia views itself in the region? will it ever stop su

in 1991 when yugoslavia was being turned apart. for a few days it is urban warfare.hether syrians and iraqiansian, people went out of their way. he says the town wants to help, because they know just a little about what so many syrian have gone through. >> at that time, we were experiencing the same destiny as the refugees are now. we were being attacked by our own people. >> over the alps into austria. this group of men come from every possible conflict zone you can imagine. some have been here for many months as their slum claims are processed. it's set up so the men are in good physical shape. it's as peaceful as running away from war could hope for. >> you joke together you speak together every time from gambia syria, afghanistan, somalia, iraq, it is so flies, the place is so nice, not far from people nobody is disturbing you here. >> the driving force behind it is wolf gang. wolfgang. >> i remember as a child how people met us these refugee people. they did not like us to come, all germany was bombed out, people have been poor and even what little bit they have

the river marks the border between austria and slovenia. 1991 when yugoslavia was falling apart, the town was shelled. church tower was hit, civilians were killed. for a few days it was urban warfare. now, it's on the refugees route. when syrians and iraqis began arriving, people went out of their way to offer food and clothing. desperately for finding somewhere for his wife and kids to hide. he says the town wants to help because they know just a little what the syrians have gone through. >> translator: at that time we were experiencing the same destiny as the syrians are right now. we were ak tacked by our own people. >> hidden in the mountains is another expression of solidarity. this group of men come from every possible conflict zone you can imagine. some have been here for many months as their asylum claims are processed. it's set up so the men are in good physical as well as mental condition for a new wife working here and despite the dislocation many refugees must feel it is as pale peaceful as anyone running away from war could hope for. >> you job together, you speak togeth

in 1991, when the yugoslavia was falling apart, the church tower was hit and civilians were killed and for a few days it was urban warfare. it's on the rfertio refugees ro, people went out of the way to offer them food and clothing. during the shelling in 1991, he was spending somewher spending e and kids to hide. he knows what syrians have gone through. >> translator: we were being attacked by our own people. >> reporter: over the alps into austria. these people come from every conflict zone you can imagine. it is set up so the men are in good physical as well as mental condition for a new life working here and despite the dislocation many refugees must feel it is as peaceful as anyone running away from war could hope for. >> you live with different people and you jog together you speak together every time from gambia from syria afghanistan, somalia iraq. it's so nice, the place is so nice you are far from people, not many disturbance. not many people are disturbing you here. >> the driving force is wolfgang. aged 4 he was a refugee himself sow understands. >> i remember as a child ho

against isil, but again it is a fraction to what we have seen the americans do in places like former yugoslavia and other places. i am doubting the seriousness of this, and i seals to me for a long time, isil has been the pretext for many of these countries to reenter them at least after they were kicked out of them at least. it seems to me -- we heard that yesterday from the prime minister in london, we heard it from the president hollande, we will hearing it more -- they will be building their military -- and the months and years to come. we are in another arms race, because of this little insignificant group, that came out of nowhere. not exactly out of nowhere. and they are neglected syria, and so forth. but be that as it may, i think this coalition will have to really get serious about the threat of isil. at least. after the paris bombings after. >> manuel, briefly if you can, but officially we have heard from nato, from the u.s., from france, everyone, saying that turkey had a right to defend it's air space, beyond what they say publicly, do you think these countries are annoyed for perha

once you feel that you're living in a city where anything can happen, you're in beirut, former yugoslavia. >> the true definition of terrorism. thank you very much indeed. >> all right. so much breaking news here. we have new developments on the investigation, the possible search for people who still could be on the loose and the victims, as well. we'll be right back. ♪ every insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. for those who've served and the families who've supported them, we offer our best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. ♪ i brto get us moving.tein i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in. want bladder leak underwear that try always discreet underwear and wiggle, giggle, swerve and curve. with soft dual leak guard barriers and a discreet fit that hu

get the point with the sorties gone from 1,000 when we had the intervention over a decade ago and yugoslavia broke apart and genocide going on there, but -- go ahead, sir? >> i guess i would say the president has not decided he wants to fight. he's the commander in chief, and for another 14 months, he is our leader. and if the leader doesn't want to fight -- charles: hold on one second there, ambassador, because we want to go back to sky news. >> all those concerned about british nationals. they brought in extra call handlers tonight. for those worried about relatives, not a general number to ring, if have you family and friends and may be concerned that's 020-7008-1500. we will put this up on the sky news website for you and other sources. so that number again for you if you are concerned about friends or relatives, the foreign operatives established 020-7008-1500. also, we're told that the department for foreign affairs in dublin has issued a number for those concerned about irish nationals. that number is 003531-4082,000. 003531-4082000. charles: christian white knowon, the inability for

well, here's the problem, you have people in this country who are islamic who come from the former yugoslaviau've got people here from pakistan, bangladesh, india, indonesia. islamic people come from all around the world. it's 1.75 billion people. >> right. >> they're not, first of all, if you're bringing into a subset of arabs, even, it's like 300 million arabs. let's get down to arabs, who -- and then you have the small number of people who have given reason to be thought of as possible stow members. let's face it the french have been rounding up a lot of people, a lot of guns. >> part of the issue is americans at the moment are smothered in fear. i mean, there is a palpable fear of another terror attack in america. i mean, abc news has a new survey out just today, in fact, that showed that something like 81% of americans are expecting a terrorist attack in america. >> but some of the numbers are worse. people believe they will be hit in a terrorist attack. those numbers blow my mind, how people actually think -- >> it's stunning. >> -- they're going to win the reverse of the -- >> lottery.

melania trump she was melania knauss, born 45 years ago in a small industrial town part of yugoslavia. melania, a natural beauty, was also a bookworm. she went to university and was studying architecture when she was discovered by a major fashion photographer when she was just 17. soon after, she left school and slovenia for new york city. who would imagine that the quiet girl from slovenia would end up the wife of a mega-billionaire? their relationship made international news. not just because it was a may- december romance. he is 24 years older. but because of donald's previous two high profile marriages and even higher profile divorces. >> are you following the trump thing? can't miss it. >> reporter: the first, a 13-year marriage to the stunning czech model, ivana zelinckova. and the second, to actress marla maples. >> i give it four months. >> reporter: actually, it lasted just under four years. but today it seems the third time is indeed the charm. it's been ten years since donald and melania said "i do" in a lavish affair at trump's maralago estate in florida. one year later, t

well, here's the problem, you have people in this country who are islamic who come from the former yugoslaviayou've got people here from pakistan, bangladesh, india, indonesia. islamic people come from all around the world. it's 1.75 billion people. >> right. >> they're not, first of all, if you're bringing into a subset of arabs, even, it's like 300 million arabs. let's get down to arabs, who -- and then you have the small number of people who have given reason to be thought of as possible stow members. let's face it the french have been rounding up a lot of people, a lot of guns. >> part of the issue is americans at the moment are smothered in fear. i mean, there is a palpable fear of another terror attack in america. i mean, abc news has a new survey out just today, in fact, that showed that something like 81% of americans are expecting a terrorist attack in america. >> but some of the numbers are worse. people believe they will be hit in a terrorist attack. those numbers blow my mind, how people actually think -- >> it's stunning. >> -- they're going to win the reverse of the -- >> lotter

might remember the late europe of the 50's and 60's, who when crossing every frontier, europe, yugoslavia, italy, france, they could take anything from up to two or three hours and you could sense, as a young lad sitting in the back of my dad's car, i could sense that at each border there were huge walls. those walls were not necessarily just physical walls. they were walls of prejudice. walls of attitudes toward the other when you cross from france into italy or from that matter from britain into france. to me that great success of removing borders is what also needs to be reflected on when addressing this issue of what strategy to develop in the coming days and weeks. last point, jeremy, references were made earlier on to refugees and it has come up on a number of occasions and in that respect in the context of what has happened in paris, as horrible as it is, the bill should not be paid by these people. a good chunk of them are middle-class people. teachers, doctors, shopkeepers with their kids. what is striking for the connoisseur when you look at the pictures is that these are usuall

you said about sort of fascist neo-nazi type parties rising, i spent a lot of time in the former yugoslaviaand what's interesting is that central southern, eastern europe in a lot of countries you have had sort of dueling banjo's playing for power. on the one hand, you have the failed neoliberal experiment when the u.s. supported color revolution on all the sphincter on the other edge of a kind of red brown coalition that takes place we've got remiss the former authoritarian governments, milosevic in serbia, francis, teaming up with neofascist pseudo-nationalist entities. croatia now, the president of croatia come is a borderline fascist who is straight out of some kind of bizarre cold war textbook. you saw this in poland and other countries where there was on the one and a rejection of neoliberal policies, on the other hand, the embrace of pseudo-nationalistic policies. on both of those sides of the scale you've got angela merkel positioning trying to appear as though she's really to refugees taking the selfies but in reality one of the main people leading the war against refugees and immi

you said about fashion's, neo-nazi type party rising, i spent, i spent a lot of time in former yugoslaviaresting is that in central, southern, eastern europe, and a lot of countries you have dueling banjos the plane for power. on one hand you have the failed liberal experiments when the u.s. supported color revolutions in all these things. and then you have a red, brown, brown coalition we have remnants of former authoritarian governments teaming up with neofascist, pseudo-nationalist entities. croatia now the president of croatia is a borderline fascist who is straight out of some sort of bizarre textbook and you sought in poland and other countries where there was a rejection of policies and then an embrace of pseudo- national national policies. on both of those sides of the scale you have merkel trying to show that she's with the refugees and on the other hand you have these are remnants teaming up with fascists. >> .. also in germany a growing neo-nazi movement, which has always been there, but there are regular pretty much every week. fire bombings of refugee homes and centers. this

happening is also that there's a huge stockpile of weapons in the aftermath of the collapse of yugoslavia lot of those weapons have been circulating on the black market by criminal enterprise, and they've been found in the hands of extremists including the "charlie hebdo" kouachi brothers who carried out the attack at that newspaper. >> at this point, the borders have been closed. we know there was a curfew overnight. something that hasn't been seen really since world war ii. how about how the investigation moves forward, and how do they piece together as much information as they can given what we saw overnight? again, six targets. a coordinated effort at locations that really aren't spots that you'd think tourists at. these are every day spots for parisians. >> very much so. unfortunately that becomes the primary target for an attack. the last time there was a marauding act of terrorism was the mumbai siege attacks in 2008 when you had diverse locations being hit such as restaurants, hotels, a jewish cultural center. similar to this in the sense that it was in multiple locations. but the

border froms the czechoslovakia to hungary into yugoslavia. then i ran across the border to austria. speaking low german, i took a train all the way to vienna. then i reported to vienna authorities and they were not very happy that i made it. two or three weeks in solitary confinement. passport, i just had an id card. then i was transferred to refugee camp. said, itleman before me was 19 years old, had a complete physical, i went for a political interview, once i passed that, the question was what do you think about taking up in vietnam? i said i had no problem. i spent about 45 months in refugee camp. austrian people were very welcoming, nice. you work hard but you are money, you didn't starve. then i got to the states for months later. i was already inducted into the u.s. army even though i got deferment because i was attending new york university. months later, serving two years int the u.s. army. that was a great time because i got to shoes the school, -- i got to choose the school, i was stationed and alaska, trained as an airport securit

you have seen one of the outgrowths of a problem in yugoslavia and the balkans.into western europe at a low price point. one crisis many years ago leads to a buildup of a new crisis many years later. stephanie: scary. thank you. we have a lot more to cover with josh steiner. we will change our attention and moved to music. i heart media is joining us. the business of radio right here on "bloomberg ." ♪ stephanie: welcome back to "bloomberg ." the business of music. dele's highly anticipated album released today. it will smash records for physical cd sales. the songstress has decided not to string her outcome on services like apple music and stream her album. huge adele super fans still with us. adele will have a huge record anyway. streaming or no streaming. she is an artist who comes around once every generation. think about it a james, barbra streisand, dell. eta james, barbra streisand, adele. for her last record to sell 31 million copies at a time when big artists would sell maybe one or 2 million is truly an anomaly and a breakthrough. a record from

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