now, i've been speaking to the aunt of zara aleena , now zara's aunt of zara aleena, now zara's murderert a qr code on your screen right there , and you can hover your there, and you can hover your smartphone over that, and it will take you to a page where where you can sign up petition. it takes you literally 30s to do that. you can also go to gbnews.com slash gb news.com forward slash justice. gbnews.com forward slash justice. a couple of things that i wanted to talk to farahnaz, who of zara aleena who is the aunt of zara aleena about. we're going to split this interview parts, one interview into two parts, one part now, part in the next part now, one part in the next hour explain the hour. firstly, to explain the human cost, of course, of what she felt like, what she wasn't able to give her victim impact statement, also so the statement, but also so the government has said they are going to include in the king's speech a change of the law to make killers face real justice. i'm not satisfied with that. i know that pharaoh is not satisfied with that either. so what we're trying to do wa

zara aleena was murdered in east london last year.ctions. she said his absence was a slap in the face. nine—year—old schoolgirl 92 macro was shot by a massed gunman inside her home. her mother cheryl said the fact her family had to relive olivia's death and the offender could choose to up out of the sentencing was a kick in the teeth —— olivia pratt—korbel. 28—year—old sabina nessa was murdered in a park in london. her older sister called the murderer who refused to appear a coward. we can't talk to the aunt of zara aleena who was murdered in east london last year and herfamily were unable was murdered in east london last year and her family were unable to face her murderer after he refused to attend the sentencing in court. thank you very much forjoining us in the most difficult of circumstances and once again, we are really sorry for your family's loss. tell us about your reaction today and the fact that today, lucy letby did not turn up for her sentencing hearing, how did you and yourfamily feel about that? it hearing, how did you

the law since april of last year after zara aleena was murdered in london in 2021., the impact of their crimes. the deep emotional impact on so many of these cases. but there is the practical side to it. we heard from sir bob neill earlier on, conservative mp, chair of the justice committee, saying, how do you go about it? are you forcibly bringing these people into court? abbey following the american model? is that what we are hoping to do? some of our listeners and viewers getting in contact to say that they should take away some of their privileges in court, had to their sentencing, not so easy in the case of a lucy letby, when you are talking about someone who has a full life sentence. but do we need to force the guilty to face court? that is the central question this morning. let�*s get to some more of your calls. mohammed is in maidstone, trainee lawyer, hello to you. maidstone, trainee lawyer, hello to ou. ., , good you. good morning, chris. good morning. _ you. good morning, chris. good morning. what _ you. good morning, chris. good morning, what are _ you.

farrer naz, the aunt of zara aleena, there. farrer naz, the aunt of zara aleena. and _ there. family home in woking was known to the authorities. a murder inquiry is underway after sara sharif�*s body was found on the 10th august. police say they want to speak to sara's father urfan sharif, his partner beinash batool, and brother, who flew to pakistan the day before sara's body was found. stansted airport is getting back to normal this morning after it was hit by a power failure yesterday, leaving passengers stranded on trains and planes. many posted on x, formerly twitter, to describe chaos at the airport and railway station. an airport spokesman said they don't yet know what caused the power to fail. waitrose and john lewis are offering free hot drinks to metropolitan police officers who are on—shift, in an attempt to deter shoplifters. the retailer has written to the police federation, saying staff can use in—store drink machines and its cafes. let's take a look at the tubes now. minor delays on the picaddilly line. issues on the london overground, and the dlr will last all

they include the sentencing in the case of 35—year—old zara aleena.n aspiring lawyer attacked while walking home from a bar in east london. her aunt farah naz said the sentencing would have been the murderer�*s opportunity to be "human" and to "face his actions". his absence, she said, was "a slap in the face". nine—year—old schoolgirl olivia pratt korbel was shot by a masked gunman inside her liverpool home. olivia's mother cheryl said the fact that her family had to re—live the pain of olivia's death but the offender could choose to opt out of the sentencing was a "kick in the teeth." and 28—year—old sabina nessa was murdered in a park in south—east london. she was a primary school teacher. her older sister, jabina islam, called the murderer who refused to appear a "coward". in this case here at manchester crown court today, the judge said that he would deliver those sentencing verdicts as if lucy letby were in court. he said that he would speak directly to the dock and he would use exactly the same words that he would have used add she been here to

they include the sentencing in the case of 35—year—old zara aleena. while walking home from a bar in east london. her aunt — farah naz — said the sentencing would have been the murderer�*s opportunity to be "human" and to "face his actions". his absence, she said, was "a slap in the face". nine—year—old schoolgirl 0livia pratt—korbel was shot by a masked gunman inside her liverpool home. olivia's mother, cheryl, said the fact that her family had to re—live the pain of olivia's death, but the offender could choose to opt out of the sentencing, was a "kick in the teeth". and 28—year—old sabina nessa was murdered in a park in south—east london. she was a much—loved primary school teacher. her older sister, jabina islam, called the murderer — who again refused to appear — a "coward". taking these incidents together, these convicted murderers who refused to appear in the dock to hear their sentencing, it has put pressure on the government to change the law from the way it exists at the law from the way it exists at the moment to give extra powers for judge

they include the sentencing in the case of 35—year—old zara aleena.while walking home from a bar in east london. heraunt, farah naz, said the sentencing would have been the murderer�*s opportunity to be "human" and to "face his actions". his absence, she said,was "a slap in the face". nine—year—old schoolgirl olivia pratt—korbel was shot by a masked gunman inside her liverpool home. olivia's mother cheryl said the fact that her family had to relive the pain of olivia's death but the offender could choose to opt out of the sentencing was a "kick in the teeth." and 28—year—old sabina nessa was murdered in a park in south—east london. she was a primary school teacher. her older sister, jabina islam, called the murderer, who refused to appear, a "coward". earlier, the families of lucy letby's victims gave harrowing statements in court, telling of the horror and pain of losing their children, some dying in their parent's arms. nick garnett sent this report. lucy letby, convicted of murdering seven babies, and the sentencing was not about her. after a ten m

the murderer of five zara aleena didn't attend court for his sentencing.ent knows that this is a real issue and that's why we've been calling for legislation. there's a number of things that the government could have done . for government could have done. for example, giving the judge powers to increase sentencing where someone fails to turn up for the hearing. now, that won't make a difference in every case, particularly where someone's going to spend the rest of their lives prison. but you could lives in prison. but you could also at like prison also look at things like prison privileges, for example . and privileges, for example. and there's also been this suggestion that where a defendant refuses to attend court proceedings could be live streamed into their cells. the reality is, is that the government have had months and months to deal with this issue. they've failed to act. and that's to going result in cowardly lucy letby not attending court today. cowardly lucy letby not attending court today . and that attending court today. and that led us down.

the killer of zara aleena , jordan mcsweeney of zara aleena, jordan mcsweeney refused to attend as he described his no show as a slap in the face. now so if we cannot force sexual predators who batter innocent women to death, who judges describe as being a danger to, quote any woman that's any woman, if we cannot force them to come in here, how their crimes have shattered the lives of mothers, fathers , brothers of mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters who got a knock on the door one morning and given the door one morning and given the most appalling news, we do not have a proper justice system not have a properjustice system . there are two main reasons why cold blooded killers and vile violent offenders don't want to attend their sentencing. they are cowards who couldn't bear to hear the consequences of their actions . they're scared, but actions. they're scared, but they weren't scared worthy when they weren't scared worthy when they these they were committing these heinous crimes. make them heinous crimes. i say make them suffer . make them heinous crimes. i say make them suffer.

and i defer to the relatives of zara. aleena and ellie edwards , zara. me, reading their impact me, reading their victim impact statements to the killers would have been the absolute bit of justice that they could have got left . and so we are trying to left. and so we are trying to force that through gbnews.com forward slash justice. >> so for you, patrick, is it about the victims and about giving the victims some more closure or is it about wanting to inflict more punishment, if you like, on the criminal? so it's both really now primarily it's both really now primarily it is about the victim and the victim impact statements. >> and therefore, i think anyone would say it's reasonable that in some cases , as the relatives in some cases, as the relatives of the victim may well not want to see that individual in court. therefore, i think it should be entirely up to them. that's a very reasonable way of doing it. in that case, you could obviously beam those statements down into their cells, as has already been discussed. but the other for is, you've other t

now, the killer of zara aleena, who was brutally beaten and murdered last year, also refused to attendear his sentencing. all the victim impact statements. how was that allowed to happen? zara's auntie farahnaz wrote this today. she said his barrister said in court that he did not want to see the cctv coverage of what he did. he couldn't face it . this cctv coverage of what he did. he couldn't face it. this made us want to make him watch that. he did even more for how can a murderer not have to face their crime in a justice system? it made us angry that he yet again exerted his power and exercised his rights when he had committed the ultimate crime. the current practise and this is vital the current practise allowing offenders to skip their sentencing proceedings was established with good intentions as put in place to ensure legal proceedings could go on in the absence of the offender safeguarding the rights of the victims. but it is inadvertent, led to a situation where it is exploited, particularly among murderers, raising concerns about the integrity of justice. all too often in thi

we've saw that thomas cashman killer of olivia practical bell, jordan mcsweeney killer of zara aleenaernment doing anything about it? >> well, they're talking about doing something about it now. dominic raab, the former justice secretary, said earlier in the year they wanted to change the law to come impel killers to have to sit and hear their sentence , read out and face the sentence, read out and face the relatives. and alex chalk, the current justice secretary, is making similar noises. but what we haven't actually seen is a change of legislation , no being change of legislation, no being brought forward. but of course , brought forward. but of course, it is problematic because if you haul somebody in, they might kick and scream. they might be abusive. and also threats to sort of lengthen their sentence. if they don't cooperate . well, i if they don't cooperate. well, i think they'll be absolutely outrage if lucy letby is ever allowed. >> irrelevant in this case, almost surely. >> surely so it's very difficult. but clearly, the public, i think any reasonable person would feel that

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cocky sal madge, who killed teacher sabina nessa jordan mcsweeney who murdered zara aleena three high that is placing the requirements, the privileges, the power with the killers and not with the families . and many, many people families. and many, many people out there, catherine, will feel this is a huge imbalance if they have to be dragged kicking and screaming, so be it. have to be dragged kicking and screaming, so be it . yes screaming, so be it. yes >> as you say, lucy letby is the latest in a succession of high profile killers not to come up and sit in the dock, but also more allegations emerging today about her crimes and the consequences that should follow , particularly around what the hospital bosses knew or didn't know or did or didn't do. it's now a apparent that not only did the hospital bosses ignore repeated warnings from paediatricians , they actively paediatricians, they actively sided with lucy letby , a story sided with lucy letby, a story on the front page of the sunday times revealing that not only did she file a grievance against these doctors and they had to ap