we didn't know philip zelikow had written this.that becomes known only in the final months of the 9/11 commission investigation and it appeared to pose another conflict of interest for philip zelikow. >> guest: >> host: the pre-emptive document in september of 2002 -- [talking over each other] >> host: when they hire philip zelikow are they aware of his role as author of the document? >> guest: i don't believe so. >> host: when did the administration make that public? >> guest: september of 2002. >> host: one of the big chunks of the book that is frightening -- striking is philip zelikow is interested in one aspect of a fairly complicated probe which is across the government. would interest you most? >> guest: he hires most of the investigators and he hires a terrific bunch of people and many of them are democrats and philip zelikow is credited for putting in place a bunch of scholars to do a lot of this work from both parties. >> guest: and the administration. >> host: people from the clinton administration. >> guest: that is a ch

afterwards zelikow reflects on where we are today. i am pleased to have him back at this table and to talk about where we are today as we take a hard look at 9/11 ten years later. lcome. >> welcome. >> there are many things to talk about. but i want to focus on 9/11 and the commission report. where are we today? what have we learned since this report came out in 2004. and what do we need to understand today about what happened on 9/11? >> well, charlie, crisis, a tremendous shock always brings out both the best and the worst in aociety. and in som ways the biggest thing we've learned over the last ten years is a lot more about ourselves, about some of the things that are best and worst about ourselves. if you like let's say the best might be abbottabad and the worst might be abu ghraib, so before getting into a lot of superficial stuff, the deepest level i think that's some of what we've learned the most. one level past that, i think we've made the country safer but not safe, but safer. in a way we confronted a menace that we've taken

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