>> reporter: carol martin will admit she said the things she said. she also acknowledged that in texts she could be a little bit hyperbolic, and unlike e. jean carroll, she was dealing with her own fear of what could happen to her and her family. carol martin's grown daughter was concerned folks were going to come after them. she testified about her perception that the climate in the country was changing in a way that could be dangerous, not only for e. jean but people associated with e. jean. i thought she did a nice job. at the time i thought she was attention seeking. i didn't understand how invested she was in this case. do i sitting here today now believe that e. jean carroll is a narcissistic fame grubber, yo, i think she and i deal with things differently, and when she told me she wasn't concerned for her security, that's a thing she does. saying that's what jeannie does. she's an optimist, can she was trying to assure my daughter and me as long time close family friend of 30 plus years that he would not be in danger. >> this trial, this case

right now donald trump's team is putting on their defense case, and they've called carol martin, that'sg time friend of e. jean carroll, they're asking her about some text messages she sent in which she said things such as she thought that carole was a narcissist run amok, that she was like a drug addict and the drug is herself, all trying to get to this point that carroll was enjoying the fruits of this defamation case that she was thriving in the spotlight that came after she went public with her allegations. that testimony is beginning to wrap up, she's already done cross-examination on that, just about hitting up at the lunch break. sometime soon we should learn if donald trump is going to take the stand in his defense, or if his defense will rest their case. that answer may not come until after the lunch break, because court is still in session, and carol martin is still on the stand. today, the jury has already heard from donald trump in his own words, because carols lawyers played portions of two different depositions trump is given into different cases. one of them was about mon

it wasn't robbie meyers, it certainly wasn't carol martin. most important thing that happened was playing of video clips from prior depositions as well as statements he made on the campaign trail. and in particular, we heard clips of his deposition, as i predicted, from the deposition he gave in the new york attorney general's civil fraud case where he boasted at length about the value of his brand, how much cash he has on hand, how he might value properties like doral or mar-a-lago in comparison to his total portfolio. overall, he was boasting upon boasting about his total net worth, and that's a factor that this jury will be called upon to consider in assessing what pete buttigiegtive e da punitive damages are appropriate. prior to his potentially taking the stand later this afternoon, that deposition testimony not only included his doubling down on the defamatory statements that are at issue from june of 2019, but also included the moment where he was confronted with the photograph of e. jean carroll and her then husband john johnson meeti

they talked about carol martin being someone who will be called.n they talked about the former president as well and how they wanted to open the door for his testimony. they wanted to establish his state of mind when all this was going down in 2019 and 2020 as well and this case of defamation. essentially, the plaintiff's attorneys saying that, they have to offer a preview of what the former president's testimony is going to be if they're going to allow it. there was a lot of back and forth going on inside the courtroom as they came back from break on that question. judge kaplan saying, you are getting into the weeds. he will rule as we go. when you ask whether the former president will testify, i don't think we will know until the former president is on the stand testifying. it seems that judge kaplan is going to go motion by motion, testimony by testimony, until he makes that decision. one more thing that i want to add. the former president has a lot of restrictions on him during this testimony. that's part of the issue here as to why crowley, e.

martin, a long time friend of e. jean carroll. she asked martin about that when receives on the stand and martin said she doesn't know. so habba mentioned it in the closing statement and that got the judge irritated. he told her if you violate my instruction again, you may have consequences. now, earlier before the jury was even in the room, he said -- he told habba who was challenging one of his rulings that he could thre throw her in lockup. so the tension is building. and carroll's turning gave her closing argument for about an hour or so earlier today. and in her closings, she was making the case to the jury that trump should have to pay. and the only way to stop donald trump from repeating the statements that jury had already found to be defamatory was to make him pay a lot of money. millions of dollars in both compensatory and punitive damages. that is what they are asking the jury do. and in the closing statements from carroll's lawyer, they said this trial is about whether the rules that apply to us apply to

you'll hear about the evidence that came out today in the form of carol martin that trump's lawyers saidt jean seemed to be enjoying it and that was a two-edged sword. the witness said she regretted some of the comment she'd made in writing and they weren't accurate, but that's the back and forths. i think the plaintiffs have utsch in the better of that argument and this was devastating and e. jean carroll herself a very effective witness. big dollars probably lie ahead. >> appreciate you both joining us tonight. thank you. >>> out front next, trump on the verge of derailing a bipartisan deal to tackle one of voters' biggest issues, one of his biggest issues and it's leaving some in his own party fuming. >> he doesn't want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame biden for it is really appalling. >>> plus, first out front we take you to a secret underground command center ukrainian forces launching an attack to keep a crucial town out of putin's hands and calling for trhaley t drop out of the race. being the rnc force her out? >>> tonight, derailed. donald trump doing his

>> he called carroll's witness, carol martin, to the stand. his side did. that hasn't been talked about as much as him testifying but i thought he made a little head way there because this is a damages phase of the trial and the jury needs to figure out and put a number on how much damage frankly he did to carroll's life and what he got out of martin, who was witness meaning she's the person who e. jean told about this what about. exactly. she also had some thoughts about e. jean carroll that she admitted to putting in writing to i think it was her daughter talking about how she liked the attention and she was somebody who likes the public spotlight and is not, this was not, this didn't ruin her life the way she has said it would. i think he made a little headway there from the damages portion because that's all they're determining. what number to affix to this. so if it didn't harm her, then i think that that might have made some headway. >> you agree? what happens tomorrow? >> so, tomorrow will be closing arguments. both sides say they're going to take ab

jean carroll's life and what he got out of carol martin, a prompt outcry witness, meaning she was a person who e. jean told about this back when it happened, she also had some thoughts about e. jean carroll that she admitted to i think it was her daughter talking about how she liked the attention and she was somebody who likes the public spotlight and this was not didn't ruin the life the way she said it wouldn't i think he made a little headway there from a damages portion, because that's really all they are determining, is how much, how much money and what number to affix to this. so if it didn't harm her, then i think that that might have made some headway. >> do you agree? what happens tomorrow? >> tomorrow will be closing arguments. both sides say they're gonna take about an hour. the judge inspects the jury on the law deliberations will begin maybe even by lunchtime. it's possible i think we could see a verdict tomorrow because if you look at the first case they had to find, answer the question of the central bees question, the defamation question, the damages question. they do that

the first witness basically a hostile with it for the president trump's team was carol martin, a former television news anchor in new york, a 30-year friend of e. jean carroll, embarrassing texts coming out that miss martin said she was acting scary, that she is santa at the christmas parade, also saying that she's a "drug addict" and her drug is herself. basically the trump team trying to show that in their view, miss carroll is seeking publicity, trying to sell books, by fabricating allegations against the president. and another text to a friend miss martin wrote, miss carroll's narcissism has run amuck and suspicious of her motives. the former president could take the stand as the next witness after the lunch break. that on a state of mind in a deposition tape that they played. we are waiting for the ruling to see if indeed the former president of the united states takes the stand here at this defamation trial. back to you. >> sandra: that's the breaking news live here from north carolina. eric, we will check back with you shortly. >> jacqui: u.s. and iraq are expected to resume talk

jean carroll's friends, carol martin to t stand and said trump himself may testify. if he does, the jud h already said, and i'm going quote it here, defendant and his counsel are precludedn the presence of the jur from offering any evidence, argents or comments suggesting or implying that mr. trump did not sexually assault miss carroll or miss carroll fabricated her account of the assault. and here's what trump himself said last week about attending the trial -- >> yeah, i'm going to go to it. i'm going to explain, i don't know who the hell she is, i have no idea, they called me up years ago and said do you know about this woman? 25 or 30 years ago? she doesn't even know the date, the time, the month, the season, she has no idea. >> so how is donald trump testify and not break the judge's order? >> there is just no way. remember, just last week we saw in his civil fraud trial here in new york, judge engoron put parameters around, he wanted to participate in the closing argument. he couldn't even agree to that. roberta kaplan, rightly so, asked judge kaplan to put the

carol martin, the friend of e. jean carroll, likely to be called to the stand as well.i think we're going to be watching today to see if the former president, in fact, testifies. if he does, timing-wise we're looking at later on in the day, there is a possibility, ana, that court is in session on friday. that is not confirmed yet. it is a possibility, though. if so that could indicate we could get a decision from this jury on damages at end of day friday. again, e. jean carroll seeking $10 million in damages, and who knows how much more for punitive damages as well. >> okay, so vaughn, trump coming there fresh off his win in new hampshire. he's in full campaign mode. he's been raging on e. jean carroll, raging on the judge overnight, he can't do that in the courtroom in front of this jury, why does he want to testify. >> donald trump thinks he is his own best defense. not only when it comes to the defense of his business, his political and campaign defense, but also his legal defense. you'll recall that last year in the first defamation case against him from e. jean car

martin, one of e.or spending time with us. >>> when we return, another state hearing arguments about kicking donald trump off the ballot due to his role in the january 6th insurrection. we'll tell you what happened today and how republicans are trying to spin that issue. >>> plus, the department of justice blasting officials for a series of decisions after the deadly school shooting in uvalde, texas. >>> experts warning that 2024 will see an unprecedented rise in disinformation ahead of the election. why the country isn't nearly ready to deal with it. we continue after the quick break. mara, are you sure you don't want -to go bowling with us tonight? -yeah. no. there's my little marzipan! [ laughs ] oh, my daughter gives the best hugs! we're just passing through on our way to the jazz jamboree. [ imitates trumpet playing ] and we wanted to thank america's number-one motorcycle insurer -for saving us money. -thank you. [ laughs ] mara, your parents are -- exactly like me? i know, right? well, cherish yo

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martin lewis. oh, yes. i would like martin lewis. yeah, i like martin lewis. absolutely.y good, isn't he? he'd make a good prime minister. martin lewis himself has tweeted, "apparently i was the choice of voters on bbc. that's flattering. thank you very kindly, but i'd rather wire my nipples to electrodes. our system is overly adversarial, mandating politicians to lie and sell policies they disagree with in order to hold the party line. oh, this is martin lewis. very disillusioned. i mean, he sort of was expected to go to the lords. this could be something behind that, couldn't there. he thought he might get into the house of lords, martin lewis, is that right? i don't know about that. but i mean, certainly certainly people in law as focus group had a higher station in mind for him. i mean, i think one thing i took from that is if the uk ever abolished the monarchy and had elections for president, martin lewis would would walk it. i mean, i think one thing that's interesting in that tweet, martin lewis is done about this. one of his complaints about politics is that it's

martin lewis. oh, yes. i would like martin lewis. yeah, i like martin lewis. martin lewis. very good, isn't he? he'd be. he'd make a good prime minister. martin lewis himself has tweeted, "apparently i was the choice of voters on bbc to be pm. that's flattering. thank you very kindly, but i'd rather wire my nipples to electrodes. our system is overly adversarial, mandating politicians to lie and sell policies they disagree with in order to hold the party line. oh, this is martin lewis. very disillusioned. i mean, he sort of was expected to go to the lords. this could be something behind that, couldn't there? he thought he might get into the house of lords, martin lewis. is that right? i don't know about that. but i mean, certainly certainly people in law as focus group had a higher station in mind for him. i mean, i think one thing i took from that is if the uk ever abolished the monarchy and had elections for president, i mean, i think one thing that's interesting in that tweet martin lewis has done about this. one of his complaints about politics is that it's structured w

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. >> reporter: the emmy telecast honored groundbreaking shows like "cheers," "martin" and "the sopranos." >> it truly warms my heart to see how well men are doing in comedy now. >> reporter: tv legends carol burnett and marla gibbs, not afraid to poke fun at what has historically been a man's game. >> what's the secret to working in hollywood for so long? >> oh, that's easy, baby. the wage gap. >> reporter: social commentary was a theme throughout. >> i accept this award on behalf of every black and brown woman who have gone unheard yet over policed. >> reporter: rupaul's the most honored person of color addressing the politics of drag queen story hour after winning best reality tv competition. >> knowledge is power and if someone tries to restrict your access to power, they are trying to scare you, so listen to a drag queen. >> reporter: aside from rupaul making history there, it was a big night for diversity. five of the 12 acting awards went to actors of color and also a huge night for elton john who is officially in the rare egot club. he finally has his emmy in addition to his gram