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westerhout says yes. necheles, con voe with trump about stormy daniels, westerhout that he was very upset by it. my understanding is that he knew it would be hurtful to his family. the whole situation was very unpleasant. necheles, that was based on what he said to you. westerhout, i don't know if he specifically said that. necheles, no further questions. so ending there, sarah, what's the strategy, and what she said, was that a big win for the defense that he was worried about his family? >> that was a good spot for the defense to end, right? they made a good point. she sat down and didn't ask further questions to try to, you know, get some further admissions out of the witness, but it was a strong place for her to end. i think that the defense has sort of done what they need to do here. i think there probably is a tension with the defense attorneys and trump here, trump wants some sort of big moments on cross examination, some big wins. he can -- you know, that will be talked about in the press. the def
westerhout says yes. necheles, con voe with trump about stormy daniels, westerhout that he was very upset by it. my understanding is that he knew it would be hurtful to his family. the whole situation was very unpleasant. necheles, that was based on what he said to you. westerhout, i don't know if he specifically said that. necheles, no further questions. so ending there, sarah, what's the strategy, and what she said, was that a big win for the defense that he was worried about his family?...
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westerhout, yes. his work habits? >> yes, he likes to be in person or on the feen. what was his preferred method of communication. westerhout, in person on the phone. mangold, how many calls did he take in a day. as early as 6:00 in the morning. he would be on the phone late in the night when i went to bed because i always felt guilty about that. how did mr. trump receive calls. westerhout, complicated process. the president was in the oval office and had any work number. i could just patch them through to him, but if it was john smith, westerhout said, off the street calling there were operators that took calls, and there were also calls to the situation room for calls that were more secure. did he ever use his computers or e-mails. westerhout, not to my knowledge. he wanted hard copies, so as we continue to kind of listen in and essentially hear through our reporters there inside the courthouse and in the courtroom. what is, danny, this line of questioning trying to establish? >> it's trying to esta
westerhout, yes. his work habits? >> yes, he likes to be in person or on the feen. what was his preferred method of communication. westerhout, in person on the phone. mangold, how many calls did he take in a day. as early as 6:00 in the morning. he would be on the phone late in the night when i went to bed because i always felt guilty about that. how did mr. trump receive calls. westerhout, complicated process. the president was in the oval office and had any work number. i could just...
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and then westerhout says mr. cohen was coming in to meet with the president mangold says, do you recall seeing him when he came to visit westerhout says not specific typically, mangold says, did this visit ultimately occur? westerhout says, yes so so much of what the prosecution has been doing over the last three weeks is pre corroborating michael cohen when he gets on that stand, they want the jury to think, oh, i remember this. >> i recognize this. we saw a document about this. we heard another piece of testimony about this, even if if it's a small thing like this, now they know, yes, that meeting absolutely happened. so when michael cohen gets up and says what what happened in that meeting, they'll go okay, at least he's not completely fabricating that there was an oval office meeting we used to call an oak tree corroboration as prosecutors, meaning if there's a murder scene and someone mentioned oh, yeah, it was next to an oak tree. i don't go take a photo of the oak tree doesn't prove that the murder happene
and then westerhout says mr. cohen was coming in to meet with the president mangold says, do you recall seeing him when he came to visit westerhout says not specific typically, mangold says, did this visit ultimately occur? westerhout says, yes so so much of what the prosecution has been doing over the last three weeks is pre corroborating michael cohen when he gets on that stand, they want the jury to think, oh, i remember this. >> i recognize this. we saw a document about this. we heard...
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westerhout was around mr. trump and may have understood his motives better than others but, chris, it could have been dual, but in some ways it doesn't matter. motive is always nice to prove, but not typically required. if you robbed a bank, chris, you may have done it to pay off gambling debts. you may have done it because you're greedy. you may have done it because you wanted to feed your family. those are different motives. they matter to you, but they don't matter legally. the prosecutors would only need to prove that you robbed the bank. so yes, people act all the time with motive. sometimes those motives are singular. sometimes they're dual. in this case it may well be dual, but it doesn't matter all that much. >> all right, we're going to take a quick break. just so people know taking them a little bit behind the scenes what happens when someone with secret service protection like the former president is there, they will hold people in place until the protectee clears. so even though donald trump came o
westerhout was around mr. trump and may have understood his motives better than others but, chris, it could have been dual, but in some ways it doesn't matter. motive is always nice to prove, but not typically required. if you robbed a bank, chris, you may have done it to pay off gambling debts. you may have done it because you're greedy. you may have done it because you wanted to feed your family. those are different motives. they matter to you, but they don't matter legally. the prosecutors...
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>> well, we've got madeleine westerhout on the stand, right. so we'll have to finish with her. i'm actually kinda surprised are not calling michael cohen today. >> you all started off. well, you always want the jury to sit over the weekend with something really good. and even if you had half an hour with michael cohen, you could kind of in very broad strokes take him through the scheme and then go back into detail later. so i'm a little bit surprised that they're not going to do that. i liked the jury to sit with some good prosecution stuff over the weekend all right. >> i do want to ask you about this. if the stormy daniels testimony was contentious what's this going to look like? how long do you think michael cohen will be on the stand? she was on the stand a couple of days. >> yeah. i know sarah to that point. interestingly enough, you looked at the prosecution for stormy daniels. what was it about three hours and change. and the defense went over that, right? right. so there'll be a lot to talk about. out with him. i'm one who believes that he's the pivotal witness. he's th
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amjad bokassa and washington madeleine westerhout. we should know, just got off the witness stand at follows rapid-fire questions from both prosecutors and defense attorneys donald trump's lawyers are asking westerhout about the chaos you witness inside the white house. also, a lot of talk of checks. so when trump was signing checks and what he was doing while side finding those checks, susan necheles defense are getting the onetime oval operations directed to testify about how trump would even signed things without looking and we should note just a few moments ago, westerhout, as she was leaving the witness stand smiled at trump and trump smiled back at her mouthing something so interesting, they're a little interaction there between donald trump and madeleine westerhout. but michael moore, one thing that i wanted to get into because this happened during the break. there's a little bit of a redirect in re-cross with the attorneys and madeleine westerhout talking about westerhout, i guess, on a zoom call with susan necheles, is last n
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madeleine westerhout, the executive assistant to donald trump in the first two and a half years at the white house, she wrapped up her testimony, finishing questioning from the defense attorneys for donald trump and then since we have had an employee, an analyst from at&t as well as verizon who are used by the prosecution to enter into evidence phone records that show the communications, the phone calls that took place between michael cohen and others, it was not the contents of the calls, but it was the mere fact of how long phone calls took. and now we're currently in the morning recess here as we await the jury to re-enter the room, and an additional witness to be called before we anticipate michael cohen being that marquee witness to come next week here. currently as you and i speak, ana, there is deliberation over a 1999 clip, donald trump interview on "larry king live" that is currently being deliberated on by judge merchan, that the defense attorneys for donald trump want to not allow the prosecution to bring before the jury. and it was a particular line from that interview in w
madeleine westerhout, the executive assistant to donald trump in the first two and a half years at the white house, she wrapped up her testimony, finishing questioning from the defense attorneys for donald trump and then since we have had an employee, an analyst from at&t as well as verizon who are used by the prosecution to enter into evidence phone records that show the communications, the phone calls that took place between michael cohen and others, it was not the contents of the calls,...
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westerhout? yes necklace. would you see them sometimes signing checks when he was meeting with people westerhout? yes how strong was that? >> do you think for the defense, i lived that was very strong. you know, you have to also put it in perspective of the corporation that there are any no, they're up at the top at trump tower and those offices are we're very busy. >> well, this was was he was in the white house though. >> oh, when he is not white house, i haven't been in the white house with them, but it's very typical of him. >> he's a busy guy, he thinks of a lot of stuff all the time. he'll do ten things at once in as my indigo from one place to another. and frankly, i don't know anybody but he wasn't really successful. who is an operating in the same way i'll be starting things and talking on the phone and doing everything else. and most everybody else i know busy are prone to do that kind of thing. you trust the people that are putting the things in front of you to be signed. so there was a piece of yes
westerhout? yes necklace. would you see them sometimes signing checks when he was meeting with people westerhout? yes how strong was that? >> do you think for the defense, i lived that was very strong. you know, you have to also put it in perspective of the corporation that there are any no, they're up at the top at trump tower and those offices are we're very busy. >> well, this was was he was in the white house though. >> oh, when he is not white house, i haven't been in the...
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westerhout know he spoke to so many people. so defense trying to use this to say if they were on the phone all the time talking about this reimbursement and cutting of checks that she would have some memory of this course, ossicular would argue that this was something that maybe they had the one conversation they were not supposed to talk about it again. >> so harry madeleine westerhout testify that talk to weisselberg so maybe not all that much. trump maybe didn't see every check he was signing. donald trump really loved his wife in that was what madeleine westerhout, a prosecution witness, testified to today's that's the hand they were down and we saw this with rhona graff. we saw it with her. these are these are the witnesses. they have cohen's the only real infidel there otherwise, working within the trump's circle, like the january 6 committee did. and you're exactly right. i think maybe the best five minutes or so for trump in the whole trial, she she was very welcome pliant as a witness and really, really aim to please a
westerhout know he spoke to so many people. so defense trying to use this to say if they were on the phone all the time talking about this reimbursement and cutting of checks that she would have some memory of this course, ossicular would argue that this was something that maybe they had the one conversation they were not supposed to talk about it again. >> so harry madeleine westerhout testify that talk to weisselberg so maybe not all that much. trump maybe didn't see every check he was...
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madeleine westerhout who would be able to testify to trump's receipt and signing of checks to michael cohen. >> this is exactly what you want. you want someone who's going to line up the story and krob -- corroborate. one of the things that does, to the point about many witnesses having problems and credibility issues is your case doesn't become reliant on one particular person. even if you don't like or believe michael cohen, even if you don't necessarily like david pecker or hope hicks, regardless of why you would or would not, the fact is it can't necessarily be that all of these people along with these documents are lying. once all of these stories align, and then you add the documents for corroboration, it becomes undisputable, and you get toward the threshold ofl beyond a reasonable doubt. they're going to be the ones who on summation create the dots and connections the prosecution is going to use to get to where they want to go. next week, when we see documents entered, which is the way i suspect we're going, you have to remember that the testimony that's going to be what draws
madeleine westerhout who would be able to testify to trump's receipt and signing of checks to michael cohen. >> this is exactly what you want. you want someone who's going to line up the story and krob -- corroborate. one of the things that does, to the point about many witnesses having problems and credibility issues is your case doesn't become reliant on one particular person. even if you don't like or believe michael cohen, even if you don't necessarily like david pecker or hope hicks,...
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right now on the stand as you heard his madeleine westerhout. she was the former presidents former executive assistant at the white house. john was just describing her history with the former president she talked about the access hollywood tape and how there was a lot of concern at the rnc back then if they maintain ocean need to find another candidate and we know how that ended. it is now day 14 in this trial and a short time ago stormy daniels wrapped up her testimony after pretty bruising cross-examination by a trump attorney who try to portray the actress as an opportunist, extortionist using her trump connection to make money, prosecutors came in for the cleanup after that, reminding jurors daniels said she wanted an agreement to feel safe. unclear if any of this is relevant to what the jury needs to decide. no cameras in the courtroom as you know but her attorney posted this picture -- excuse me at -- earlier today saying he "couldn't be prouder of his client". judge jeanine was in the courthouse and she is here live coming up. former atto
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tell me about madeline westerhout. she was, in fact, right there at all times for a couple of years outside the oval office, saw everything that was happening. she cried when president trump won the election, had to be talked into coming to the white house by reince priebus. he wanted her to be his eyes and ears in the oval office suite for him. she was very -- she expressed a great deal of admiration, being enamored with president trump. she got in trouble because she told tables at a school about how he had said unpleasant things about his own children, and he fired her at that point. she then went on and wrote a memoir that was very very gushing, apologizing for her role. in that book, her observations were telling in small ways. she described a tempestuous president who was volatile. and said your daughter ivanka is on the phone. he was talking with ivanka, and she comes in to say rupert murdoch was on the phone, do i tell him you'll call him back. never put him on hold. it's a great moment, that you understand wha
tell me about madeline westerhout. she was, in fact, right there at all times for a couple of years outside the oval office, saw everything that was happening. she cried when president trump won the election, had to be talked into coming to the white house by reince priebus. he wanted her to be his eyes and ears in the oval office suite for him. she was very -- she expressed a great deal of admiration, being enamored with president trump. she got in trouble because she told tables at a school...
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madeleline westerhout, $6974. can you read what is written? madeleline westerhout "if winfred will allow me to suspend remember ship for four or eight years, do you want me to look into it what you want to continue being annual dues and the food minimum?" in the prosecution had madeleline westerhout read trump's handwritten response written in his signature sharpie. prosecution, "what is written in trump's handwritten? " "yes, asap, okay." if president trump's was personally attending to golf club dues and would've been concerned about the cost of a $650.00 picture frame, he likely would not have only been made aware of the multiple $35,000.00 hush money payments that were cut on his behalf, he almost certainly would have been involved in signing every single one of them. back with me now or duncan levin, former assistant u.s. attorney for the eastern district of new york and kristy greenberg, former federal prosecutor and deputy chief of the criminal division for the state of new york. in these examples, the picture frame, the fact that the p
madeleline westerhout, $6974. can you read what is written? madeleline westerhout "if winfred will allow me to suspend remember ship for four or eight years, do you want me to look into it what you want to continue being annual dues and the food minimum?" in the prosecution had madeleline westerhout read trump's handwritten response written in his signature sharpie. prosecution, "what is written in trump's handwritten? " "yes, asap, okay." if president trump's was...
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trump's executive assistant in the white house, madeleine westerhout, and stormy daniels who continued to be on cross- examination today. last week we talked about the fact stormy daniels was 27 years old when the incident happened. madeleine westerhout when she was fired from the white house for indiscreetly sharing details about how trump felt about his daughters, for example, and how he felt about her in comparison, she was 28. get on her cross-examination, after she had broken down about that youthful indiscretion, what did susan necheles say to you? you are very young when you left the white house, weren't you? you made a mistake and he has forgiven you. all i was thinking about was the woman you excoriated this morning for your life choices, for not having the same college education and polish that madeleine westerhout had, the woman you call a sex worker even though what she did for a living was not being paid to have sex with people. you did that deliberately. they were the same age and but for the grace of god they could've had the same life experiences and they didn't. that d
trump's executive assistant in the white house, madeleine westerhout, and stormy daniels who continued to be on cross- examination today. last week we talked about the fact stormy daniels was 27 years old when the incident happened. madeleine westerhout when she was fired from the white house for indiscreetly sharing details about how trump felt about his daughters, for example, and how he felt about her in comparison, she was 28. get on her cross-examination, after she had broken down about...
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madeleine westerhout, the last witness on the stand, the waterworks bothered me. i know she's young, but hope hicks and madeleine westerhout crying on the stand, both of them, both of them paying you know, some type of mosh to donald trump, but madeleine westerhout was interesting because just like hope hicks, she did her former boss in, she said donald trump paid attention to the details. he signed the checks himself with that notorious sharpie but he definitely was aware of everything that was going on. are these witnesses that are being called by the prosecution, are they doing damage to donald trump because on the cross, you saw susan necheles, are you okay, you made mistakes, you were young? >> yeah, i mean, look , some of these witnesses are filling in fairly narrow gaps, but things that are useful to the das case but i want to echo something that jeremy said because i share his view that like this needs to move to the main event at this point. i don't know how many books they put into evidence by donald trump at this point but are we ever going to talk abou
madeleine westerhout, the last witness on the stand, the waterworks bothered me. i know she's young, but hope hicks and madeleine westerhout crying on the stand, both of them, both of them paying you know, some type of mosh to donald trump, but madeleine westerhout was interesting because just like hope hicks, she did her former boss in, she said donald trump paid attention to the details. he signed the checks himself with that notorious sharpie but he definitely was aware of everything that...
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meanwhile, today the jury hearing more from former trump aide, madeleine westerhout, who sat outside the oval office and confirmed mr. trump met with cohen at the white house in 2017 where prosecutors say they devised their reimbursement scheme but testified the former president signed checks without reviewing them first, contrary to what mr. trump said in his book and other witnesses said at trial. >> so, laura, we're four weeks into this case right now. has the prosecution appeared to check all the boxes they needed and wanted to check? >> lester, the challenge is so far this jury has not seen a single document, a single tape, a single piece of evidence directly showing that mr. trump himself falsified any records or caused anyone else
meanwhile, today the jury hearing more from former trump aide, madeleine westerhout, who sat outside the oval office and confirmed mr. trump met with cohen at the white house in 2017 where prosecutors say they devised their reimbursement scheme but testified the former president signed checks without reviewing them first, contrary to what mr. trump said in his book and other witnesses said at trial. >> so, laura, we're four weeks into this case right now. has the prosecution appeared to...
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exchange for keeping quiet about her story appeared on the stand friday, former white house aide madeleine westerhout testified about a 2017 oval office meeting, where prosecutors say trump and cohen discuss those payments. >> are you ready to testify? >> yes. >> reporter: as the prosecution's star witness, cohen will take the stand on monday to lay out his account of how he and trump allegedly falsified records to suppress daniels' story, which trump has denied. >> did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no. >> then why did michael cohen -- there was no truth to that her? >> reporter: cohen's credibility will be intensely scrutinized by the defense. he has served jail time on federal charges related to the hush money payments. >> yes, i lied to congress, at the direction of, in coordination with, and for the benefit of donald j. trump. >> reporter: cohen could be a decisive witness, but also a wild card, according to cbs news legal analyst rikki klieman. >> he is going to be expansive in his answers, probably much more than the prosecution would like. and certainly going to be
exchange for keeping quiet about her story appeared on the stand friday, former white house aide madeleine westerhout testified about a 2017 oval office meeting, where prosecutors say trump and cohen discuss those payments. >> are you ready to testify? >> yes. >> reporter: as the prosecution's star witness, cohen will take the stand on monday to lay out his account of how he and trump allegedly falsified records to suppress daniels' story, which trump has denied. >> did...
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the other witness we heard from who was interesting was madeleine westerhout. i'm sure you remember neil she is the former is negative assistant to donald trump when he was in the oval office. she was called by prosecutors because her wall is important to closing the circle of documents and how they are passed from trump tower to the white house to sign michael cohen for his reimbursements to stormy daniels for this hush money. the checks or cut at trump towers and sent to the white house and were passed on to the president design. what was really fascinating neil is chanting i would argue actually ended up being a much better witness for the defence of the former president. they had a very close relationship and you could tell chan 19 had vary fond feelings of working for him she shared he was a great boss to had and she admired his relationship and his family's relationship. and a particular him and his wife saying it was of mutual respect or she also talked about her time departing the white house which was widely reported came under circumstances she later
the other witness we heard from who was interesting was madeleine westerhout. i'm sure you remember neil she is the former is negative assistant to donald trump when he was in the oval office. she was called by prosecutors because her wall is important to closing the circle of documents and how they are passed from trump tower to the white house to sign michael cohen for his reimbursements to stormy daniels for this hush money. the checks or cut at trump towers and sent to the white house and...
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, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018 westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family? meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came on the heels of the access hollywood tape damaging his campaign and when you're a star, they let you do it. >> you can do anything, but it trump's lawyer, susan necheles is as westerhout about the process of trump signing checks. >> westerhout said trump would sign and then while multitasking, doing things like talking on the phone or meeting with people, she described fedex the sign checks back to the trump organization. prosecutors used westerhout to show the chain of command of checks, like the one sent to cohen to reimburse him for the hush money cohen testified before congress about the allegat
, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018 westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family? meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came...
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, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout testified et trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family. meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away. came on the heels of the access hollywood tape damaging his campaign. >> when you're a star, they let you do it. >> you can do anything but trump's lawyers, susan necheles has as westerhout about the process of trump signing checks. westerhout said trump would sign them while multitasking, doing things like talking on the phone or meeting with people she described fedex thing, the sign checks back to the trump organization prosecutors used westerhout to show that chain of command of checks, like the one sent to cohen to reimburse him for the hush money cohen testified before congress about the allegations in
, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout testified et trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family. meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away. came...
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testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family. meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away and came on the heels of the access hollywood tape damaging his campaign. >> when you're a star, they let you do it you can do anything with it. >> trump's lawyers to the necklace as westerhout about the process of trump signing checks, westerhout said trump would sign them while multitasking, doing things like talking on the phone or meeting with people. she described fedex thing, the sign checks back to the trump organization. prosecutors used westerhout to show that chain of command of checks like the one sent to cohen to reimburse him for the hush money cohen testified before congress about the allegation
testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family. meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away and came...
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it's madeleine westerhout. she is a former white house aide who was right outside the oval office with donald trump working as one of his assistants, and she quite literally wrote a book about how much she enjoyed her time working with the president, said on the stand that she believes he is treated unfairly and so the prosecution, afterfinishing, basically, the defence has now been questioning madeleine westerhout and she has perhaps been one of the most helpful witnesses to them yet. she detailed how she was the one who would bring checks to donald trump in the white house from the trump organisation to sign. remember, part of those 30 forfalsifying business records charges are checks, ii checks that donald trump signed which prosecutors say was an illegal reimbursement to michael, which prosecutors say was an illegal reimbursement to michael cohen, which the defence says was just donald trump being legal expenses that were legitimate to michael cohen, so madeleine westerhout essentially said that donald trum
it's madeleine westerhout. she is a former white house aide who was right outside the oval office with donald trump working as one of his assistants, and she quite literally wrote a book about how much she enjoyed her time working with the president, said on the stand that she believes he is treated unfairly and so the prosecution, afterfinishing, basically, the defence has now been questioning madeleine westerhout and she has perhaps been one of the most helpful witnesses to them yet. she...
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testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family. meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came on the heels of the access hollywood tape, damaging his campaign when you were starting to let you do it? you can do anything but trump's lawyer, susan necheles as westerhout, about the process of trump signing checks, westerhout said trump would sign them while multitasking, doing things like talking on the phone or meeting with people. she described fedex thing, the sign checks back to the trump organization. prosecutors used westerhout to show the chain of command of checks like the one sent to cohen to reimburse him for the hush money cohen testified before congress about the allegations in 20 d
testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family. meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came...
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, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018 westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family? meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came on the heels of the access hollywood tape damaging his campaign. >> when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything with trump's lawyer, susan necheles is as westerhout about the process of trump signing checks. >> westerhout said trump would find them while multitasking, doing things like talking on the phone or meeting with people. she described fedex thing, the sign checks back to the trump organization. prosecutors used westerhout to show that chain of command of checks, like the one sent to cohen to reimburse him for the hush money cohen testified before congress about the allegatio
, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018 westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family. >> she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family? meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came...
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and the time witness yesterday was madeleine westerhout. she served as trump's perm secretary and director of oval office operations for the trump white house until august of 2019. she described trump's working habits including his use of social media and that he would sign every check by hand in his office and return them to her in a folder. westerhout wiped away tears when describing how she was fire from the position after she shared private details about the job and the trump family during a dipper with reporters that she believed was off-the-record. despite that, she spoke warmly of the former president, participating a picture of a family man who cared deeply about his wife. westerhout will return to the witness stand later this morning and we'll have more on this trial later in the show. >>> to washington now where republican lawmakers are criticizing president biden's threat to with hold weapons shipments to israel. in an interview on cnn wednesday night, biden said he would not give the idf bombs or artillery shells if israel invad
and the time witness yesterday was madeleine westerhout. she served as trump's perm secretary and director of oval office operations for the trump white house until august of 2019. she described trump's working habits including his use of social media and that he would sign every check by hand in his office and return them to her in a folder. westerhout wiped away tears when describing how she was fire from the position after she shared private details about the job and the trump family during...
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westerhout testified about a key white house meeting in 2017 between donald trump and his former fixer and lawyer michael cohen. cohen himself, a witness for the prosecution, is expected to take the stand on monday. his testimony could last several days. this after stormy daniels sparred with donald trump's attorney yesterday during the cross-examination after being accused of profiting off her encounter with donald trump. daniels posting on social media, following her testimony, quote, real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. oh, wait, never mind. here is donald trump as he headed into court this morning. >> this case is highly unconstitutional. it's presided over by a very conflicted judge. conflicted like i have never seen before. he refused to take himself off the case. it should be a mistrial. >> joining us from the courthouse, vaughn hillyard, who is standing by. also with us this hour, catherine christian, former manhattan district attorney, and duncan levin, a criminal defense and a former attorney for the eastern district of new york. cath
westerhout testified about a key white house meeting in 2017 between donald trump and his former fixer and lawyer michael cohen. cohen himself, a witness for the prosecution, is expected to take the stand on monday. his testimony could last several days. this after stormy daniels sparred with donald trump's attorney yesterday during the cross-examination after being accused of profiting off her encounter with donald trump. daniels posting on social media, following her testimony, quote, real...
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, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money payoffs to daniel's in order to protect his family meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came on the heels of the access hollywood tape damaging his campaign. >> when you're starting let you do it. you can do anything but trump's lawyer, susan necheles, assess westerhout about the process of trump signing checks. >> westerhout said trump would sign and then while multitasking, doing things like talking on the phone or meeting with people, she described fedex thing, the sign checks back to the trump organization. prosecutors used westerhout to show the chain of command of checks, like the one sent to cohen to reimburse him for the hush money cohen testified before congress about the allegations in
, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout testified trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation. trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money payoffs to daniel's in order to protect his family meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came on the...
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, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout tests if i trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family? meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came on the heels of the access hollywood tape damaging his campaign when you're starting to let you do it, you can do anything but trump's lawyer, susan necheles is as westerhout about the process of trump signing checks. >> westerhout said trump would sign and then while multitasking, doing things like talking on the phone or meeting with people, she described fedex thing, the sign checks back to the trump organization. prosecutors used westerhout to show the chain of command of checks, like the one sent to cohen to reimburse him for the hush money cohen testified before congress about the allegations in 20
, testified about trump's reaction to the release of daniel story in 2018, westerhout tests if i trump was upset by it and her understanding was that it would be hurtful to his family she later clarified trump did not specifically speak about his family in that conversation trump's lawyers suggested he made the $130,000 hush money pay off to daniel's in order to protect his family? meanwhile, prosecutors argue he did it to influence the 2016 election, which was two weeks away, and came on the...
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madeleine westerhout is out the stand. she told the jury yesterday how trump's checks would arrive from trump tower in new york city and then the president would sign them in the oval office. she testified that she set up the meeting one month into trump's presidency with trump and michael cohen. reports have claimed she was in that meeting and set to testify that she heard trump and cohen talk about that deal but i have been told she actually was not in the meeting. she was sitting at her desk that was just six feet outside the oval office door. she testified on the stand yesterday she cried saying she thought that trump was a great president who was being treated unfairly quote, i thought it was really important to share with the american people the man i got to know. i don't think he is treated fairly, she said. he is amazing. i just found him really enjoyable to work for. she said trump and melania have a close, loving marriage. quote, i believe they have a relationship of mutual respect. no one could put him in his pl
madeleine westerhout is out the stand. she told the jury yesterday how trump's checks would arrive from trump tower in new york city and then the president would sign them in the oval office. she testified that she set up the meeting one month into trump's presidency with trump and michael cohen. reports have claimed she was in that meeting and set to testify that she heard trump and cohen talk about that deal but i have been told she actually was not in the meeting. she was sitting at her desk...
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madeline westerhout said he's tenantive to details. he -- tenantive to details. he reads before he signs. the next day on cross she's asked basically the same questions and says something completely different. it was oh, now, she's asking the question, i know what she wants to say because i prepped with her, with the defense attorney for an hour, i'll say what she wants me to say. i don't know that she necessarily helps the defense all that much because it was so inconsistent. >> transparently so. we'll get last word on the other side. we'll get last word on the other side first psoriasis, then psoriatic arthritis. it was really holding me back. standing up... even walking was tough. my joints hurt. i was afraid things were going to get worse. i was always hiding and that's just not me. not being there for my family, that hurt. woo! i had to do something. i started cosentyx®. i'm feeling good. watch me. cosentyx helps people with psoriatic arthritis move, look, and feel better. it targets more than just joint pain and treats the multiple symptoms, like joint swe
madeline westerhout said he's tenantive to details. he -- tenantive to details. he reads before he signs. the next day on cross she's asked basically the same questions and says something completely different. it was oh, now, she's asking the question, i know what she wants to say because i prepped with her, with the defense attorney for an hour, i'll say what she wants me to say. i don't know that she necessarily helps the defense all that much because it was so inconsistent. >>...
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you have madeleine westerhout get up there, who worked for trump, who was very close to trump and who got fired by trump's office for making claims about her closeness to him. completely different treatment. >> completely different. and even david pecker, think back to, i think, one of the most damaging witnesses who we started with, the former head of the "national enquirer," who was the principal who cooked up the catch and kill schemes with donald trump. and knew about all of this, and talked about it. at the end, david pecker actually said he still thinks donald trump to be a mentor of his. very different treatment throughout, even on, i would argue, more damaging witnesses. today was really something. there was even an exchange, and it went on, it seemed like it went on for probably hours. it was probably 30 minutes to an hour, though. just about what stormy daniels had said about if they had eaten dinner. they were going to meet for dinner. and was there food there, and this went on and on. stormy daniels said we didn't eat food. and susan necheles couldn't provide an interview
you have madeleine westerhout get up there, who worked for trump, who was very close to trump and who got fired by trump's office for making claims about her closeness to him. completely different treatment. >> completely different. and even david pecker, think back to, i think, one of the most damaging witnesses who we started with, the former head of the "national enquirer," who was the principal who cooked up the catch and kill schemes with donald trump. and knew about all of...
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later former trump aid madeleine westerhout testifying about mr. trump's reaction when the story about the hush money deal first broke, saying "i remember he was very upset." late today the judge denying the defense's renewed request for a mistrial. mr. trump's attorneys had argued daniels' salacious testimony was prejudicial and irrelevant. the judge also refusing to change a gag order which bar mrs. trump from testifying on daniels' testimony. >> everybody saw what happened today. i don't think we have to do any explaining. i got to get back on the campaign trail. i'm not supposed to be here. we're so innocent there has never been anything like it. >> and laura, you've been sitting in the courtroom. for prosecutors, could this be considered a gamble to put stormy daniels on the stand? >> it was always a risky move, lester, and the judge acknowledged that some of her testimony might have been problematic, but not so problematic that he thinks the entire case should go away. it's really hard to know watching the jury what they make of all this. but
later former trump aid madeleine westerhout testifying about mr. trump's reaction when the story about the hush money deal first broke, saying "i remember he was very upset." late today the judge denying the defense's renewed request for a mistrial. mr. trump's attorneys had argued daniels' salacious testimony was prejudicial and irrelevant. the judge also refusing to change a gag order which bar mrs. trump from testifying on daniels' testimony. >> everybody saw what happened...
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sometimes he was meeting with top foreign leaders and other times meeting with westerhout. he wasn't signing the checks in meetings with top world leaders and sign checks while meeting with staff and discussing scheduling. he is a person who multi-tasks. wow. what does that tell you real quick? kerri kupec-urbahn the reason the cross is drowning that out the prosecution has been presenting excerpts from donald trump's books being a micro manager, how he knew everything he was paying for, how he was frugal. liked to get deals and knew what checks he was signing. otherwise he would be screwed is his language in one of the books. so what the defense is trying to do now is sure, that could be true but he became a very busy -- much more busy man once he entered the white house and he was constantly signing things. they are trying to put some reasonable doubt in the minds of the jurors that perhaps he wasn't paying that close attention to the checks he was signing off to michael cohen because, of course, that goes to the heart of the case. >> bill: we'll see if it plays at all. t
sometimes he was meeting with top foreign leaders and other times meeting with westerhout. he wasn't signing the checks in meetings with top world leaders and sign checks while meeting with staff and discussing scheduling. he is a person who multi-tasks. wow. what does that tell you real quick? kerri kupec-urbahn the reason the cross is drowning that out the prosecution has been presenting excerpts from donald trump's books being a micro manager, how he knew everything he was paying for, how he...
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westerhout, 6,749. do you want me to look into it or do you want to continue paying annual due and the food minimum? and then the prosecution had westerhout read trump's hand written response written in his signature sharpy. prosecution, what's written below the note in mr. trump's handwriting. yes, asap, okay. the not so subtle point here is if president trump was personally attending to his golf club dues and would have been concerned about the cost of a $650 picture frame, then he likely would not only have been made aware of the multiple $35,000 hush money payments that were cut on his behalf, he almost certainly also would have been involved in signing every single one of them. back with me now are duncan levin, former district attorney for the district of new york, and kristy greenberg, former deputy in chief of the criminal division of the sdny. are these $650 picture frame, the fact he had time to leaz with his assistant about the golf club dues, are they indicative of the point the prosecution
westerhout, 6,749. do you want me to look into it or do you want to continue paying annual due and the food minimum? and then the prosecution had westerhout read trump's hand written response written in his signature sharpy. prosecution, what's written below the note in mr. trump's handwriting. yes, asap, okay. the not so subtle point here is if president trump was personally attending to his golf club dues and would have been concerned about the cost of a $650 picture frame, then he likely...
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obviously, westerhout was on the stand. we're now talking about the actual cut and dry in this case of checks that were actually cut realities of the case that in terms of whether or not trump's guilty, not guilty, et cetera what do you expect more to hear from at western? throughout today when she takes the stand and what's the next term here? >> i like the state is just trying to make the connection that trump is monitoring what's going on in his business affairs, monitoring what's going on with these payments that that's that's all fine and good. i don't again, that's sort of like to six in the case where nobody is saying that he wasn't an engaged businessperson. there's also some testimony that says actually when he became president, he was not really gauge, which is sort of the timing of the criminal conduct its allayed. so that actually i think helps the defense in this case, but i think they'll continue to try to put his hands on the papers. i've tried to spanish fingerprints on the pins. they'll do all that kind of
obviously, westerhout was on the stand. we're now talking about the actual cut and dry in this case of checks that were actually cut realities of the case that in terms of whether or not trump's guilty, not guilty, et cetera what do you expect more to hear from at western? throughout today when she takes the stand and what's the next term here? >> i like the state is just trying to make the connection that trump is monitoring what's going on in his business affairs, monitoring what's...
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the defense using westerhout's testimony to try to infer that trump really wasn't paying attention to what he was signing like the checks to michael cohen so may not have known exactly what they were and they want to subpoena mark pomerantz to testify. the judge rejected that. he have is a prominent lawyer who spent a year investigating trump before quitting the manhattan d.a.'s office in frustration and wrote a book about it blasting manhattan district attorney alvin bragg who walked into the courtroom a few minutes ago. he accused bragg of dragging his feet and refusing at first to bring the charges against trump. among the witnesses we heard the one who spoke the most highly of the former president was westerhout now off the stand. she said that she feels the former president was in her words a great president and that he has been treated unfairly. we'll, of course, likely hear a quite different tune on monday when michael cohen takes the stand. bill, back to you. >> bill: that's for sure. thank you. we have a great team inside the courthouse giving us minute by minute updates. as
the defense using westerhout's testimony to try to infer that trump really wasn't paying attention to what he was signing like the checks to michael cohen so may not have known exactly what they were and they want to subpoena mark pomerantz to testify. the judge rejected that. he have is a prominent lawyer who spent a year investigating trump before quitting the manhattan d.a.'s office in frustration and wrote a book about it blasting manhattan district attorney alvin bragg who walked into the...
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westerhout back on the stand this morning when the trial resumes. back to you in the studio. >> will: thank you, eric. >> brian: eric, quick question, what is the point for the prosecution of having madeleine westerhout on the stand? because it seems to just make the president look good. >> yeah. chain of custody trying to show that the checks went from trump tower, the trump organization to the oval office and that she handled these checks that the checks to michael cohen. allegedly reimbursing him for paying off stormy daniels. that she was able to handle all that. she set up the heating with michael cohen in february. one month after the president took office. what's really interesting though, brian, we heard a lot in the media reports that she allegedly or supposedly was in the meeting with michael cohen and there were lots of stuff say she was going to testify about what they talked about. that they talked about the deal. they talked about the alleged cover-up. we didn't hear any of that. so apparently those media reports were incorrect. >> bri
westerhout back on the stand this morning when the trial resumes. back to you in the studio. >> will: thank you, eric. >> brian: eric, quick question, what is the point for the prosecution of having madeleine westerhout on the stand? because it seems to just make the president look good. >> yeah. chain of custody trying to show that the checks went from trump tower, the trump organization to the oval office and that she handled these checks that the checks to michael cohen....
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madeleine westerhout. what are they saying? >> reporter: let's talk about madeleine westerhout for a moment. she was integral to closing the loop for receiving these checks within the white house. she was sitting outside the oval office, trump's personal secretary in the white house for two years or so until she was subsequently fired for talking about the former president's children while she was inebriated or former president's family while she was inebriated. she testified to the fact that she received these checks, walked the checks into the oval office in which the former president would sign all of his checks, oftentimes, sometimes reaching out to cfo allen weisselberg to question some of the checks, what the money was for, so on and so forth. what was integral about her testimony was closing the loop. the checks being cut in trump tower, them being fedexed from either roenick graph or someone else to madeleine westerhout, walking the checks to be signed by donald trump. 11 checks, two from the revoke able trust. the rest
madeleine westerhout. what are they saying? >> reporter: let's talk about madeleine westerhout for a moment. she was integral to closing the loop for receiving these checks within the white house. she was sitting outside the oval office, trump's personal secretary in the white house for two years or so until she was subsequently fired for talking about the former president's children while she was inebriated or former president's family while she was inebriated. she testified to the fact...
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madeleine westerhout great family to know the truth about. if is he a honorable person how is he hiding it from the people who know him best. >> ainsley: madeleine worked for him personal assistant and secretary and said she reis very regretful of her youthful indiscretion she shared some information about the trump family with the press and that's why we lost her job. but she said he never once made pee feel i didn't deserve the job and i don't belong there. trump was a really good boss, she said. >> will: so in the court of public opinion which is also known as the trial of donald trump. it's the public opinion of those jurors, not so much about justice, because none of this has to do with bookkeeping. none of this has to do with how it was denoted in the trump accounting team but acknowledging 'it's about throwing dirt and slime and influencing the courts of public opinion. stormy daniels motivations are what has been debated for the last two days. why are you here? why is this happening? why are you on the stand? do you hate donald trump?
madeleine westerhout great family to know the truth about. if is he a honorable person how is he hiding it from the people who know him best. >> ainsley: madeleine worked for him personal assistant and secretary and said she reis very regretful of her youthful indiscretion she shared some information about the trump family with the press and that's why we lost her job. but she said he never once made pee feel i didn't deserve the job and i don't belong there. trump was a really good boss,...
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you got a little of both for westerhout. he signed a lot of checks and there wasn't a lot of testimony about him raising his hand asking where is this going. >> have we gotten to the point where the prosecution has shown that donald trump directed a criminal conspiracy that would buy the silence around stories that could end his campaign? >> you got close to that today with what michael cohen is testifying. >> you couldn't get much clearer than that. i don't think there's any doubt to the transactions. you can't deny the transactions from cohen to daniels, trump to cohen. >> they're going to get to the white house meeting where allegedly donald trump agrees to all of this. i would just have to say, you cannot believe michael cohen, but when you have allen weisselberg's own handwriting in the exhibits. andrew weissmann talking about how he thinks these are devastating. you would be hard pressed to say that weisselberg would do something outside of donald trump's knowledge. weisselberg is serving a second sentence. >> you coul
you got a little of both for westerhout. he signed a lot of checks and there wasn't a lot of testimony about him raising his hand asking where is this going. >> have we gotten to the point where the prosecution has shown that donald trump directed a criminal conspiracy that would buy the silence around stories that could end his campaign? >> you got close to that today with what michael cohen is testifying. >> you couldn't get much clearer than that. i don't think there's any...
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this is madeleine westerhout. she sat outside the oval office and she's are important because she's scheduled a meeting where michael cohen, trump's former fixer and no relation says that he the alleged plan to false five business records was discussed. we'll hear more from westerhout today. we're also learning that we won't be hearing from a potentially key witness, karen mcdougal. it seems prosecutors have decided that they don't need to call her. so another de of testimony, but stormy daniels really leaving an impression on the jury yesterday yeah maybe the impact today will still be felt. >> zach standby, let's bring in alayna treene, so alaina take us inside. what you are hearing from people around the former president's. it was reported he left fuming yesterday, but where were things today? where do they thinking? >> yeah, he did leave fuming. i mean, it is there's no question that donald trump has been furious with some of this testimony and look, it's been a very uncomfortable week for the former president
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very soon, and really, the question will be looking at that testimony versus someone like madeleine westerhout who told us about how much she respected their relationship and the defense will say, well, who are you going to believe, you know, madeleine westerhout or a convicted liar like michael cohen, and i think the answer so that is in the corroboration. you have the fact that donald trump delayed making that payment to stormy daniels, every excuse to not make the payment. that corroborates michael cohen's story, and you have the "access hollywood" tape, where he talks about women, him speaking about his wife like she's expendable tracks with the "access hollywood" tape. he's also very much corroborated by the other evidence in the case. >> and one other point that has not escaped the jury's notice, we have not seen this loving wife melania, i'm sure the jury has noticed. >> harry litman, kristy greenberg, thank you very much. criminal defense attorney and former senior staff member at the manhattan d.a.'s office, duncan levin. thanks for being here. welcome to the table. michael cohen ende
very soon, and really, the question will be looking at that testimony versus someone like madeleine westerhout who told us about how much she respected their relationship and the defense will say, well, who are you going to believe, you know, madeleine westerhout or a convicted liar like michael cohen, and i think the answer so that is in the corroboration. you have the fact that donald trump delayed making that payment to stormy daniels, every excuse to not make the payment. that corroborates...
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. >> la trama continuo con madeleine westerhout, ex asistente de trump en la casa blanca, quien fue despedida despues de alardear de su estrecha relacion con el exmandatario. >> en el estrado lloro al describir la relacion entre el y melania, al recordar que le pedia llamar a la ex primera dama para avisar que llegaria tarde. >> la sonrisa de trump aparecio por primera vez durante este juicio antes de salir del tribunal la defensa solicito que se levantara la orden de silencio solamente con respecto a stormy daniels para que trump pudiera refutar sus afirmaciones ahora que ya no estara en el sin embargo, el juez se lo nego. >> tambien pidieron que se anulara el juicio, esto lo hicieron por segunda ocasion y merchant les dijo que no. >> al donald trump opino y dijo que el fallo del juez habia sido una verg:uenza. >> en nueva york, karla amezola, noticias telemundo. >> chico chico barron, quien tiene 17 y se acaba de graduar de la preparatoria, se unira a otros miembros de la familia como donald trump junior, eric y tiffany trump para ser delegados por >> y se acaba de graduar de la jr., delega
. >> la trama continuo con madeleine westerhout, ex asistente de trump en la casa blanca, quien fue despedida despues de alardear de su estrecha relacion con el exmandatario. >> en el estrado lloro al describir la relacion entre el y melania, al recordar que le pedia llamar a la ex primera dama para avisar que llegaria tarde. >> la sonrisa de trump aparecio por primera vez durante este juicio antes de salir del tribunal la defensa solicito que se levantara la orden de silencio...
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he raises westerhout's testimony that everyone is freaking out except for trump after the access hollywood tape and steinglass said dismissively, please he pleased it caused pandemonium and the campaign he said. and then he says, because you brought up hope hicks, hope hicks was quote in the room where it happened unlike westerhout and hicks said it was a crisis. steinglass said stormy daniels was a walking, talking reminder that the defendant was not only words, she would have totally undermine his strategy g for spinning away the access hollywood tape, the idea that it wasn't just locker room talk as well as was his justification at the time that he actually had some locker room behavior or steinglass right now, walking through how things changed for gina rodriguez, trying to sell daniel story, once the access hollywood tape came out he's walking through texts between howard and rodriguez and the hours after the tape went public. and this is this is a question of how you interpret different facts because the defense said that ms rodriguez, who was stormy daniels manager and dylan howard,
he raises westerhout's testimony that everyone is freaking out except for trump after the access hollywood tape and steinglass said dismissively, please he pleased it caused pandemonium and the campaign he said. and then he says, because you brought up hope hicks, hope hicks was quote in the room where it happened unlike westerhout and hicks said it was a crisis. steinglass said stormy daniels was a walking, talking reminder that the defendant was not only words, she would have totally...
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so blanche says quote, westerhout testified that trump would sometimes look at the checks he was signing but not always, quote, you can't convict president trump because sometimes president trump looked at invoices. that is a stretch and that is reasonable doubt, he argues, end quote. the lawyers on the stand here with us on set. what do you think of that argument? >> he is trying to hit every piece he possibly can and hitting very hard the idea that paying your lawyer and then listing it as a legal expense isn't improper. so that kind of talks about the heart of the issue. now he is going into more of the intent of donald trump and how he would have engaged distancing him from the overall schemes that were happening. i use the word scheme liberally here. the overall payment plans and the way that the invoices were handled. so he is both saying it was perfectly legitimate and acceptable but also that donald trump was kind of at a distance as to what was going on. i think he is playing both sides of it. that's fine. defense can look for the reasonable doubt in any one of the elements and
so blanche says quote, westerhout testified that trump would sometimes look at the checks he was signing but not always, quote, you can't convict president trump because sometimes president trump looked at invoices. that is a stretch and that is reasonable doubt, he argues, end quote. the lawyers on the stand here with us on set. what do you think of that argument? >> he is trying to hit every piece he possibly can and hitting very hard the idea that paying your lawyer and then listing it...
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>> so jose, we heard the remaining testimony from madeleine westerhout, and she was really finishing up her cross-examination. one of the issues that prosecutors tried to establish through her is that trump not only had responsibility for signing each one of the nine checks written in his name personally to michael cohen, but that he knew what he was doing when he was doing that. and i thought the defense was mildly successful at sort of muddying that up, saying that trump, yes, for the most part he knew what he was signing it when he was signing it. today, getting an admission from madeleine westerhout, that he sometimes signed documents, whether they were commissions or checks in the oval office while he was doing other things and that he was a great multitasker. after she got off the stand, we heard from a number of custodial witnesses, including someone from at&t, someone from verizon, and then two paralegals at the manhattan d.a.'s office who were used to basically bring in evidence that couldn't come in through other people. not only phone records through at&t and verizon, but
>> so jose, we heard the remaining testimony from madeleine westerhout, and she was really finishing up her cross-examination. one of the issues that prosecutors tried to establish through her is that trump not only had responsibility for signing each one of the nine checks written in his name personally to michael cohen, but that he knew what he was doing when he was doing that. and i thought the defense was mildly successful at sort of muddying that up, saying that trump, yes, for the...
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westerhout is in the white house. this is the chain of custody establishing that she would be the person to make sure that he had signed those checks, and this is putting him on the checks that, of course, were paid to michael cohen. what's the significance? >> this is some of the most important part of the trial. the part that people find the most interesting, of course, is when someone like stormy daniels is on the stand. i think her testimony was very important because it showed donald trump's motive in trying to keep all of these sordid details out of the public domain. this is really the crux of the case, because it's about the documents themselves that were falsified and donald trump's knowledge about what the real payments were for. sometimes this part of the case can be tedious. but you can tell from the excitement in my voice that i think this is the most important part. i remember taking my father-in-law to watch my history a case that i thought was exciting. he said, this is so tedious watching that and tel
westerhout is in the white house. this is the chain of custody establishing that she would be the person to make sure that he had signed those checks, and this is putting him on the checks that, of course, were paid to michael cohen. what's the significance? >> this is some of the most important part of the trial. the part that people find the most interesting, of course, is when someone like stormy daniels is on the stand. i think her testimony was very important because it showed donald...
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trump's executive assistant at the white house madeleine westerhout finished today saying that he saying to signed with approval and she saw him do that while multitasking talking on the phone or discussing scheduling with his staff. trump's lawyers attempted to prove he cannot operate with the same attention to detail with his finances after becoming president. wester hout said trump was upset when they stormy daniels her went public but not because of politics rather his family. she told the court "she knew it would be hurtful to his family" of michael cohen one of the key witnesses in this case set to start testifying on monday as you mentioned aishah the prosecution says he is 1 of 2 witnesses they have left so they anticipate possibly resting their case at some point next week send it back to you. >> nate foy with that live report outside the courthouse thank you. >> let's bring in will sharp. well, let's look ahead to next week since everything is done for this week. michael cohen this is what jonathan turley said about michael cohen in a recent call he said michael cohen goes on t
trump's executive assistant at the white house madeleine westerhout finished today saying that he saying to signed with approval and she saw him do that while multitasking talking on the phone or discussing scheduling with his staff. trump's lawyers attempted to prove he cannot operate with the same attention to detail with his finances after becoming president. wester hout said trump was upset when they stormy daniels her went public but not because of politics rather his family. she told the...
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very close says westerhout. and he also had a close and loving relationship with his wife? yes. it is thrown into question when you have kind of a kramer versus kramer style situation between melania and donald over the subject of barron and the reality that only eric trump has attended any days of this trial. >> there is also the fact that the whole trial is predicated on falsifying business records to cover up hush money payouts because donald trump was having an affair with multiple people. we can't forget that we wouldn't even be here if donald trump actually had a good relationship with his family. >> it is an apt point. if he had been home with his four month old newborn and wife maybe he would not be getting spanked by an adult film star in a hotel room in vegas. i do want to point out to everybody that trump made a big deal about attending barron's graduation. barron, the 18-year-old, not 17-year-old. he is getting a reprieve, there will be no trial next friday because he is going to attend barron's graduation. it turns out now on the day of the graduation trump schedule
very close says westerhout. and he also had a close and loving relationship with his wife? yes. it is thrown into question when you have kind of a kramer versus kramer style situation between melania and donald over the subject of barron and the reality that only eric trump has attended any days of this trial. >> there is also the fact that the whole trial is predicated on falsifying business records to cover up hush money payouts because donald trump was having an affair with multiple...