why write a book about bees? my interest in these dates back to my time in graduate school where i was studying the pollen dispersal and genetics of these large rain forest trees in central america. i had gone out and genetically fingerprinted all of the adult trees of a particular species in this landscape so that i could see how the genes were moving around amongst them, and i knew that something up there, out of sight, in the rain forest canopy was moving pollen around, not just between neighboring trees but among individuals of a mile and a half apart. because that tree was a member of the family and have this big purple p flowers just like the sweet peas or garden keys in your yard, i knew that was something so i coerced a friend of mine into joining me for a couple weeks and we hired a local businessman who was handy with a crossbow and we spent two weeks firing lines up into the rain forest canopy and hauling up all manner of insect traps and catching a grand total of zero bees. the only time we saw b was

these south african bees. someone biologist have an idea that if you could crossbreed the european sub species. with the great honey maker. maybe you could crossbreed these two. so this was started in laboratory experiments. and taken over to brazil where this was going to go on. so someone left the door open. and africanized bees. they thought brazil was nice. and they thought argentina was nice. they started to take over and guess what characteristic was dominant. i've heard mixed bags about what happened to the honey making. they are certainly a more aggressive be. it's been moving north ever since. and has reached the southern part of the united states. the killer bees you find their cell feed chase. self-feeding chase. it's probably because your close to the nest. it has become more aware. we won right here. we had one in the fourth row. could you talk a little bit about the use of navy bees to supplement honeybee pollination services to diversify the kind of pollination that happens? >> that is beginning

i met him in 2004 i think he lost half of his bees that year and friends lost even more. it did not get a lot of attention. are followed him around and that basically like a healthy colony bets it was mysterious and nobody knew what was causing it. but in reality honeybees are dying and have been in trouble for a while even in since the early '90s and it is hard to keep the bees healthy without treating the highest. the most have died off because of the might but at a great cost to put in medicine that is not good for the bees. there is the girl when he lost all those seat or that was and then the honeybee started today again 2006. but people tend to confuse each day so this event from 2006 through 2009 did not do much. they are still dying. the beekeepers are paid more by the theft big -- biggest threat. >> said they're making lots of money and they paid the beekeeper to bring in the bees to pollinate crops. and right now i am not sure how they sustain that. others but if they cannot keep the bea's help they to put so much money into it, we did is not happening right now

the bees say you're a great bee. what i would tell you about that is do bees have this ability that seems so important to me to human beings and is this outside of your scheme of things when human beings make mistakes? and it is the -- the bees searching around randomly is not really a mistake. but you can do something and it's a mistake. and from the disaster, from the mistake, you say, wait a minute, maybe if i radicalize the mistake i can discover something. and i relate this somehow -- i'm not sure what the relation is, but we were talking before the official session tonight about the handicapped principle and maybe you can talk about that and the guy who invented it and how that -- 'cause you seem to be talking about the handicap principle actually in terms of the stress and strain of the complication of life and the strangeness of life. >> i might not understand the handicap principle the same way you do so correct me if i'm wrong. but there's an israeli scientist who's responsible for this. think of the peacoc

my own bee hive. they require they require care. so with all of our travel right now i thought, you know i shouldn't really start a bee right now. i mean, i can get the neighbors to watch the dog get up to watch and and what if bees taught you? oh, the bees have taught so much. i hope you enjoy the epitaph at the beginning of each chapter of the book. it's a beef act that goes with chapter. i have learned much from the bees. they have given me much more. i've given them they they just there's something about bees and you know, i start the book off saying how you know, i didn't like bees. most people are like i don't like bees, but then i tell how became involved with beehives and everywhere i went as second lady we would visit a bee hive if we could and i mean all over the world we learned how all the different beekeepers handled their bees and like for example, tell the story of montana. we visited a beekeeper and he said to me i you to know i can tell you bees they're all buzzing which bees are comi

, 95% of the bees in the b hive r negative conformist forger bees. they do with your suppose to do, they go out and the do their job every day and go to the flower patch everybody knows about the popular flower touch everybody else is going to and they come back with paul when and if they're lucky the on loader bees, there is a little on loading dock in the highest and the onlookers bees are the ones that pulled the paulen that they've gotten out of them to feed to the inside of the highest and stick their tongues down the throat of you who are an incoming bee to see if you've got anything in the volatile liquids inside of you and a pack that stuff away. when you arrive at the lip of the hive and are carrying something that is urgently needed in the hive, pollen, the onlookers rushed over to you as if they are surrounding a rock star and you feel great. how do we know you feel great? because you operate with energy because you are alert and you go back out to the flower patch as quickly as you can and bumble for 100 flowers and pick up the pollen and

my dad was a bee guy, his dad was a bee guy, his dad was a bee guy.e do. >> john miller is a migratory beekeeper. he keeps 10,000 beehives, and he takes them between california and north dakota. so he's a commercial beekeeper. he sells honey and pollinates crops. i had no idea that the honeybee was so important to the american diet, to everybody's diet when i started this project. i just thought bees were fuzzy and cute and made honey, and i like sweet stuff, so i always loved honey. pretty quickly i learned that honeybees actually pollinate one in every three bites of food we eat, including the really good stuff like cherries, berries, all the pit fruits, peaches, legumes. so we would be able to eat -- we wouldn't be able -- we would be able to eat, but our diet would be a lot less interesting and a lot less fun for us. and the way modern agriculture works now, you can't count on the local bees to pollinate these crops because, you know, there are miles and miles of crops as far as the eye can see, and they all bloom at once, and you need a lot of be

every time i went and visited bees i learned a new fact about bees.n give this honeybee who live six -- eight weeks everything it needs for its little life, surely he can do the same for me. >> amazing. i promise his questions are not hard but i cannot have you here and not mention the election, right? >> mike panza 2024.com. >> is you k don't note she was here. >> the back of the room, three or four weeks ago for the presidential debate has been on the election trail the campaign trail? >> you know what, it has been wonderful. i am so glad god change my heart and got me excited about running again. i just have to tell you it's like old passion campaign again iowa and new hampshire. these two states they get very, very serious liberated indiana our primary is in may we don't really want to put our bet on which horse too early. because by the time it comes to indiana sometimes is just two candidates left. don't get is engaged quite a sow's other states. the people in iowa, they are -- they are never surprised to see it for us in indiana mike always say

like i don't like bees. but then i tell how i became involved with beehives. and everywhere i went as second lady we would visit a beehive if we could. i mean, all over the world. we learned how all the different beekeepers handled their bees. like, for example, i tell a story of montana, we visit a beekeeper and he said to me, i want you to know i can tell you which a bees, they are all bug around, which bees are coming back to the hive. and i thought, right, you know? i didn't believe. and i said okay, i'll bite. how do you know which ones are coming back to the hive? and he said it's very clear. he said, they are the ones with the yellow pollen on the legs, their little sacs are full of pollen. the ones going out, their little sacs are not full of pollen. and i looked and i could see how those with the bees that were coming back. and every time i went and visited bees i learned a new fact about bees there and i thought, if god can give this honeybee who lives six to eight weeks everything that it needs fo

every time i went and visited bees, i learned a new fact about bees. c i thought if god can give this honey bee who lives 6 to 8 weeks everything this needs for its little life, surely he can do the same for me. >> amazing. i promise these questions aren't hard, but i can't have you here and not mention the election; right. for those that don't know, she was there as was charlotte three, four weeks ago for the presidential debate. how has ithe been on the electin trail? campaign trail? >> it's been wonderful. i'm so glad god changed my heart and got me excited about learning again because i just have to tell you, it's really like old fashioned campaigning in iowa and new hampshire because these two states take it very, very seriously. in indiana, our primary's in may. by the time it comes to indiana, sometimes it's just two candidates left and but people in iowa, i mean, they are bye bye bye -- they're never surprised to see you, which for us in indiana, it's like mike always says if i saw a presidential candidate walk into the pizza restaurant, i'd be

raiding the nests not just of honey bees but of at least six other honey-making varieties. over the course of a year, honey mid-up fully 15% of they're diet. a figure that was far higher during certain seasons, and higher still for many of the men who would not only gather most of the honey, out in the field bet eat quite bit before the came back to camp. now, that is interesting in and of itself but the idea becomes truly powerful in an evolutionary context. elissa and her colleagues then posed another question. would our ancestors, surviving in roughly the same way, in the same landscape, have behaved any differently in after all, chimpanzees eat honey. if we have been chasing after bees since the very beginning, that certainly explains the coevolution of honeyy guys. they co-einvolved with us. why would a bird bother trying to attract the continuation of a bad general her their apes out there in plain site. but for elace a and her colleagues the bird is a side note. the role discovery has to do with us because the story of human evolution has always been a story about br

marina is going over there. >> by using something syrup from the maple trees or using bees. bees? >> bees. >> remember where we began? remember where our story began with my aunt whose grandfather had been a serf? napolian learned that a german scientist had figured out that beet sugar is chemically identical to cane sugar. this was the first time in human history that a tropical product could be substituted by another product. science is now going to tell us where our sweetness comes from, not anymore the plantation, at least the british slaves have been freed. science is now going to begin to give us our sugar. >> so what you have in this period which is exactly what links us, same period, that serf that's related to his aunt, okay, he's developing beet sugar, and here in the west indies, the planters are saying who is going to cut my cane? >> where can they get someone to cult their cane? no one is coming from africa, no one from south america, no one from north america. they did actually try bringing in slaved people from ireland. they said to barbados was to take a slave -- w

they are getting local bees and they are treating for the mites.are not getting the sugar water. people are hoping that their experiments will filter up to the commercial environment if they can build stronger bees and find ways to take care of them without the industrial treatments and without hurting the bees and ultimately build a stronger heard as well. >> the public is more aware because of things like the collapse disorder and of the 30% that are dying each year. one of the things i conclude in my book is that it may be one of the best things that happened to the honey bee because they were dying in large number season before the collapse hit and nobody knew about it. nobody knew how important they were and the beekeepers just have to suck it up and there wasn't a lot of money and research and now people are concerned and realize how important they are and they have the checkers to say give bees at chance. booktv is on location at the university of north carolina chapel hill where we interviewed some professors were also offers. adjoining our

now, most of you probably know that honey bees, our lovely honey bees that make the honey aren't native. they're not. they're european honey bees worth the honey. here's honey, honey was, of course, an important resource because we didn't really have sugar. we really we had maple sirup. the natives knew how to make maple sirup, but honey was very useful as a medicine, as a topical medicine, but also as a flavoring. but the interesting thing i think about honey bees is that as the western migration proceeded and the white man came and moved further and further and further west, over, over the course of 150 years, the native peoples knew when the white people were coming because the honey bees would travel westward first. and when they saw the honey bees, they knew that they had a few months. and then the honey bees would be followed by the settlers. interesting. what else have we got? we talked about oak polk. we pine once again. pine trees were used for tar and pitch and rosin. and we're gonna talk a little bit more when we get to repellants about how moss everybody who gardens, everybo

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there is reciprocal subtotal between flowers and bees the bees pollinating the flowers and the flowers feeding the bees with aviation fuel which is nectar. reciprocation works because a new game theory terms we have a nonzero-sum game. both parties benefit from the other one's presence. when it happens within a species that often concerns doing it turns feeding the other individual for example and the expectation that being said later. a beautiful example of this is the work of wilkinson on bats, vampire bats which as you know blood. wilkinson worked out as a blood donor scheme in these bats. they feed at night and day not a way at the heels of things like cows and can blood. and then they go back to their caves by day. at any one night, but that may strike lucky in which case it gets a surplus of blood or it may strike unlucky and get no blood at all. wilkinson showed that if he gets no blood at all it's in great danger of dying. these bats need food every single day whereas when they get a surplus they have more than they need so it's a perfect situation for reciprocal altruism and t

sting like a bee. like a bee. i'm gonna float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. ♪ ♪ sting like a...sting like a bee. ♪ ♪ [ woman ] half the calories, all the g. [ woman #2 ] i know that's right. >> mike h.: nc state 41, unc greensboro, 32. at the start of the first half, spartans have three turnovers nc state has none. i think you can say that might be the difference. >> mike g.: that's exactly how the game started which built the hole for unc greensboro. against this competition you can't do that, especially at home. you have to give yourself some shots at every opportunity. >> mike h.: here are the two guys we talked about at the beginning of the broadcast. tracy smith having a pretty good night. ben stywall does not have a field goal but he has been rebounding well is the good news in the second half. he's now got six rebounds. >> mike g.: the thing is you look at the difference in field goal attempts. smith has got 11 attempts and stywall only 2. all of his attempts are coming at the free-thro

bee whisperer, rather. and then the honey comes in in the combs. they scrape the wax off the top created by the bees, by the way, a totally natural product. it comes out in a jar. this is pure honey. to add to this label sugar added makes no sense because it's not. nothing is added except what the bees produce. so this is a case where i think what we are talking about is a well meaning or attempt on the part of this agency, the f.d.a., to inform consumers but in the process, what they're really doing is misinforming them. honey comes from the bee to the jar. nothing in between. maple syrup comes from the tree to the jar. nothing in between. nothing is added. the only thing that's added by this proposed regulation is confusion. and confusion is the whole thing we're trying to avoid here. we're not adding sugar. sugar isn't added to maple syrup and to honey. if you put added sugar on the label, it will make the consumer think this isn't a pure product and it will undo 50 years of effort to make the public und

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>> my first job was in trinidad with william bee bee who was the first man to go down under the oceanin a bathosphere and he was a collector and he loved a.a. mill and charles darwin. and so when i came to the library of congress and found its wide collections and became a friend with sandra herbert, the author, and was asked to do a lot by the editor of the correspondence and as i did research for the correspondence of charles darwin, i became very interested. it was great fun to find bits and pieces that they had not been able to find before. so it was all the joy of the hunt increased my knowledge and my love of charles darwin. >> abraham lincoln, charles darwin born on the same day. do you think lincoln has overshadowed darwin a bit? >> well, sandra herbert just gave a talk on darwin in the shadow of lincoln. and perhaps here in america, at least at this point in time, lincoln may have overshadowed but i think in the long run it will be darwin that we will remember the longest. >> and then finally if people want to learn about what they can about darwin from the library of congres

need bees. >> right. because what they knew -- before people knew about sugarcane, how might they have sweetened their food? what, what ways might people have used to sweeten their food? >> they would use mashed fruits and honey and sap from a maple tree? >> very good. you all my remember that in north america there were no bees, north and south america. they didn't have honey. so what they had is maple syrup, they had the agave cactus, and in the rest of the world they had honey. so we've, we've had sugar used in magical ceremonies, we've had sugar, now, is spreading, people are starting to learn about it -- >> but one thing we want to mention when you say that they use, let's say, honey or fruit is sugar or sweetness at this time is not the way we think about it where you're going to have a chocolate bar or a cookie. it is just a taste. it is a spice. it is something you use in your meal to give it one of the flavors, okay? >> let's say there's a meal you just had where you use sweetness as part of the

sting like a bee. i'm gonna float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. ♪ sting like a... like a bee. ♪ [ woman ] half the calories, all the g. [ woman #2 ] i know that's right. >> steve: the wizards lead the timberwolves 16-11. we were sorry to learn of the passing of our colleague george michael. he had the definitive word on our sports teams. he changed our expectations of what a sports cast on the news should be. i had the pleasure and challenge of competing with george on a nightly basis. george raised the bar to a standard that we all achieved. he is a good man and a talent. we will never forget you, george. >> steve: he was so good on the air, that whole news team became a part of your daily life. ryan gomes is in the game. a foul on caron. there is four minutes to play in the second quarter. w is on a 13-1 run. wilkins misses that, another rebound and misses that. gomes is there, he is fouled and he scores. >> phil: that was shear determination especially on the part of wilkins. he grabbed several rebounds in a crowd. you see oberto. >> steve: before that field goa

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jim and i were colleagues at the sacramento bee for many, many years. he was a real working journalist. i was in the ivory tower writing editorials, you know, polishing ivory. so he did the real work. and i used to i used to write about it. i read his first book, the willie brown book, and he had me, you know, make some comments about that, too, when it was in draft form. and i was i was i was flattered to be asked. and then he asked me to read this book when it was in draft form. and again, i was flattered. i found the book fascinating, not so much. not as much as i learned about his ancestor. who was this quiet hero, this american hero that none of us really know about until his great, great grandson unearthed his journal. but i learned a lot about jim, too, which i didn't know, which makes the book even more fascinating for someone like me. jim i'm going to begin with my first question to you, which is. who is this guy? who is george richardson? and why should we care about him? well, first, i want to thank beers books and andrew and the navy's for h

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