lisa irwin captured the nation's attention. how could an infant disappear from her crib in the middle of the night? the images of lisa with her big blue eyes were splashed all over national media. three years later there is still no trace of her. there are suspicions most of them involving lisa's mother deborah who was at home that night and says she was sleeping. fox news said lisa add deborah may have blacked out but she always denied involvement in her daughter's disappearance. as the months passed the searchs eventually stopped and the story faded from the spotlight until now. the kelly file has obtained never before seen interviews of lisa's parents in the days immediately after her disappearance. secret tapes recorded by a former top cia officer, a government trained spy and interrogator and what he found could change everything you thought you knew about this case. >> what involvement did you have in the disappearance of lisa? >>> oo i am sorry. >> evidence indicates that you are involved. is there any reason that any on

november 11 2010, little lisa irwin is born to parents deborah bradley and jeremy irwin. they live a quiet life in kansas city missouri, along with jeremy's 8-year-old son blake and deborah's 5-year-old. money is tight so jeremy works overtime when he can, including on the night of october 3rd 2011. baby lisa is 10 months old. jeremy leaves the family home around 5:30 in the evening. within hours disaster will strike. at 6:40 p.m. deborah puts lisa in her crib, then she heads to her porch to visit with a female neighbor. the pair will spend the pair will spend hours on the porch drinking wine lots of it. deborah goes to bed four hours later. sh she initially tells police that she checked on lisa, who she says was asleep in her crib. she turns out all the house lights and goes to sleep with her son michael in her bed. the time is 10:40 p.m. at 4:00 a.m. jeremy returns home. immediately he immediately he notices something unusual. all of the house lights he says are turned on, and the front door is unlocked. he tries to wake deborah, but she is groggy. so he goes to check o

irwin home.is the same time one made a call from irwin's missing cell phone. >> we located the dump store where the fire was reported on october 4 in the early morning hours. the walk from the irwin house to this dumpster took me approximately five minutes and driving it took about two minutes. the woods where the place repeatedly searched are right behind me. >> judge jeanine: will 30s clues help solve the mystery of baby lisa's disappearance? >>> dr. cyril wecht joins us now and mark fuhrman and joey jackson are still with us. a dumpster fire. cell phone calls, people walking around with babies. what is the connection. what do you guys think? >> listen, i think if you have people who two separate sightings you have to give creedence. about 12:00, a couple who is married and their indication some person who is walking around, a man carrying a baby. the baby is not the clothed, right, and then in addition to that, your honor you have another sighting by an individual on a motorcycle who gives the

they are turning the dogs on the irwin family car. with the irwin's consent. i flew to missouri and sat down for a one-on-one with lisa irwin's parents. debra bradley and jeremy irwin were very open including one many people are wondering. did they kill, hurt or sell their own baby. did you kill little lisa? >> no. megyn: do you believe she is still alive? >> absolutely. megyn: did you hurt your baby? >> no. megyn: would you ever hurt your baby? >> absolutely not. megyn: do you have any idea who may have been involved in her disappearance? >> no. megyn: do you believe she was kidnapped? >> yes. megyn: did you sell your baby? >> no, no, no. megyn: do you know -- has anybody approached you about selling your baby? >> no. megyn: the police say you stopped talking to hem, is that true? >> no. megyn: why are they saying that? >> because we won't let them interview our children maybe. megyn: you just said no more. >> no more. my kids would know nothing. megyn: how far init to did they have accuse you. >> a couple hours. megyn: into the first interview? >> yes. megyn

i interviewed the parent ares of lisa irwin days after she went missing but last sunday the irwins save a series of interviews and some facts of their story changed. what does it all mean? joining me now, body language expert tonya reiman. thank you for joining us. when i spoke with the couple i asked jeremy directly about police accusations against deborah. take a look at this one. when the police are pointing the finger at debbie, for one second did you think she must know something that i don't know? >> no, i mean there is no way that she knows anything more than i do. i mean it was never -- it was never an issue for me. they kept saying stuff and it is all part of their job. it didn't really make any difference. >> judge jeanine: how does that hit you? >> it is having because he is stoic.timon he is trying to make contact with her eye contact with h her and she doesn't resi reciproca. >> i thought it was a little bizarre other her part. i haven't had an opportunity to baseline her that much. that could just be how knee normally reacts. >> judge jeanine: you find him credible by look

police need your help to find baby lisa irwin. have any information on her disappearance, please call the kansas city police department at 816-474-tips. that's 816-447-tips and sten i speak with baby lisa's parents and asked theml them iy saw anything that strange night that she went missing. >> did you hear anything out of the ordinary when you went to bed? >> no. >> no. >> judge jeanine: nothing. >> was the door opened or closed? >> we close all the doors and i have a baby monitor on. we always have one on when we go to bed and she is in bed. >> judge jeanine: and they are sensitive. you can hear someone from you are walking. i remember, awhile ago for me but -- okay. >> i mean nothing that would have -- i mean the only sound that i hear when i wake up in the middle of the night is her crying and she -- >> judge jeanine: what do you think happened to baby lisa? what do you think? >> we don't know. just we know everybody is out there. everybody is still looking, following up leads. just hoping that somebody has her and wanted to

breaking right now in the case of missing missouri baby lisa irwin. welcome to "america live" i'm megyn kelly. less than 24 hours after making a desperate plea to the public for help the parents of baby lis arunder the police microscope. the baby's mother admitting today that she failed a polygraph or police said that was administered by law enforcement and police accused her of having something to do with her daughter's disappearance. a law enforcement says that mother, debbie, quote, failed miserably that lie detect toker test and started sweating, this is according to the police, when the f.b.i. informed her of this. and there is much, much more breaking right now. trace gallagher picks up the story from there. trace. >> reporter: the local affiliate giving more bombshells in this case, megyn. remember it was very key when the mom said three of the cell phones were missing when they went to the room and saw little lisa missing. three cell phones missing. police are investigating whether or not the mom made a phone call on one of the cell phones at

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." >>> well, focus today on the mysterious new figure in the case of missing baby lisa irwin. a man now claims that he knows who may have been at the err end -- other end of a bizarre phone call that was made or at least attempted from deborah bradley's cell phone the night her baby disappeared. the phone belonged -- the phone that was called, i should say, belonged to this woman, megan wright. she says she didn't take the call, she didn't have her phone at the time, but it appears more and more investigators are looking at the phone records in the case of this missing baby for clues as to what may have happened to her. trace gallagher just spoke to an investigator at the center of the case. >> reporter: that investigator's from kansas city, and he is actively looking for that mystery man. megan wright says the reason she didn't take that call was because she was living with accept other roommates, and she was kind of sharing the phone among them. well, now one of those roommates who does not want to be identified has now told our kansas city fox affiliate that the man's name

he and irwin flew to phoenix with the plan to snatch him there.ealizing they made key mistakes including leaving fingerprints on a phone they decided to abort. >> went home. john said forget about it. >> hell bent on pulling it off keenan recruited another friend a 23-year-old shellfish diver known as joe handler to help with his plan. he talked irwin into rejoining the plan and went to ambassador hotel. the day they picked friday november 22nd, 1963, the same day president john f. kennedy was assassinated in cdallas. >> john was weeping and completely out of it. joe was devastated as well and they were all done with the kidnappin kidnapping. >> it wasn't long before keenan was thinking about his next move. >> you still needed your money. >> yes. >> the hardest part was to get joe or john to even answer my phone calls but eventually i preva prevailed. i knew if i mentioned anything about the abduction that joe would walk off. i said let's go to lake tahoe and look for jobs. >> in early december they drove to lake tahoe which straddles nevada and c

new questions today in the search for little lisa irwin.estigators coming up short after pursuing thousands of leads. in just a few minutes we will talk with robert lowry jr. of the national center for missing annex employeded children about what investigators do when the tips run out, and wait until you hear what they can do with respect to her image, among other things. and a top senator is asking tough new questions about supreme court justice elena kagan and her ability to rule on the president's healthcare law and its constitutionality. that is at the top of the hour. one michigan struggle is struggling to take care of their disabled children, their own children. they say they are being forced to pay money every month to a union that does nothing to support them. >> i think i would feel better about the whole situation if i thought that money was going to help a lot of these kids out there that need it, a hraoft the special needs kids. a lot of the special needs kids. wanna know the difference between a trader and an elite trader? it's

police told us this lake was 2 miles from the irwin hope.ped it and this lake does appear to be 10 miles from the irwin home. so the police did say they are expanding their search and they are not acting on a tip. but 10 miles away seems a good distance to go when you are not acting on a tip. lake chaumiere is not a big body much water. there are teams and boats on top of the lake stan scent dogs. they are not going to drain the lake or send dive teams into the water until one of the cent dogs gets a hit. the dogs would in fact be able to pick up the scent of a body even if it is inside the water. so that's the question now is what is the next step, butter in continuing to search not only the lake but the woods around the lake. remember this comes on the same day we thought we were going to get a tour of the irwin's house. the lawyers will take us inside the house. it would have been the first time local media had a chance to look around. they cancelled that tour. they also cancelled the press conference saying the parents and family were ex

irwin says he also offered to take a test, but the police said that was not necessary. police are not commenting on whether the parents have been part of the ongoing investigation. the parents say, police have been treating them like suspects and bradley in particular has been preparing herself for the possibility of charges being filed against her. and then on thursday night, a new twist. kansas city police announcing at a press conference that irwin and bradley, quote, decided to stop talking to detectives and i don't have to illustrate how that affects the investigation, it that speaks for itself. in a statement in the very same night, the parents insisted they have been cooperative from day one and he they just want to find lisa and bring her home. in an interview with judge janine pirro, the parents describe their horrific ordeal. >> when you walked in the home what's your first thought. >> i didn't-- >> did anyone come to mind? >> no, i mean, not really, it was just -- panic, panic, you don't, you don't think, when something like that is happening, you don't, you

but so far no sign of little lisa irwin. the fox report chief correspondent jonathan hunt is live now. very little progress according to police on this case at all. >> yeah. they basically say they do not have any new clues. we spoke to captain steve young of the kansas city police department earlier today and he said this, and i quote: we are, quote, at the mercy of the next good idea. we're trying everything we can. we're trying every idea that we can. those ideas today included a return to the irwin family home, shep. they went inside the house. they were also searching the backyard and the backyard of a neighbor's house. witnesses say they appeared not to find anything new, shep. >> shep: jonathan, the parents aren't saying much of anything at all right now. it seems like many of the relatives really are. >> yeah. other family members have been doing whatever they can to raise awareness of the entire issue, of course, shep. they were out handing flyers out at a nascar race just outside kansas city over the weekend. and a

the first call went to his mother's ex-boyfriend a 42-year-old house painter named john irwin. >> head fallen on hard times when i was making a lot of money and i set him and his family up with housing and a car. >> so he owed you one? >> and i called that in. he reluctantly agreed to go along. >> keenan discovered that is sinatra, jr. was appearing at the arizona state fair. they flew to phoenix with the intention of snatching him there. realizing they made some key mistakes including leaving their fingerprints on a hotel phone they decided to abort their mission. >> so is arizona was out. >> arizona was out and we go home and john says forget about it. >> keenan didn't forget about it. hell bent on pulling it off he recruited another friend, a 23-year-old shellfish diver to help him with hesseman. he talked irwin into rejoining the team and they made plans to grab sinatra from the los angeles ambassador hotel. the day they picked? friday, november 22, 1963, the same day president john f. kennedy was assassinated in dallas. >> john was weeping and he was completely out of it and joe

police in kansas city look for 10-month-old lisa irwin.he was scene according to her parents was monday night when the mother says she put the baby to sleep in her crib around 10:30 p.m. lisa's parents were supposed to speak with us in our last hour. but we are told they returned off to a police command center after an emotional exchange with officers. i know you are doing all talk get to the bottom of this case. first and foremost, this report from our report on the scene who spoke with police that there was an animated discussion between police and the parents, voices were raised, arms are nailing, after which the parents got in their car, sped away to the police command center, and the topic being discussed was the police searching the woods near the parents' house. can you confirm nip of that or expand on it? >> what happened was the mother and father found out that we were back in the woods again. they thought there was a new development and they rushed over to the command post to find out what was going on. megyn: was there a new dev

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megyn: a new search taking place right now for missing baby lisa irwin. police zeroing on the home of this beautiful baby girl. welcome to "america live," i'm megyn kelly. just hours after the police showed up to the home of lisa's parents, search warrant in hand we are learning new details on the search that is taking place on the property at this very moment. check out the police officers in the white suits. the f.b.i. and police blocking off the entire street from onlookers and the media, even getting a no-fly zone over the area, we presume so no aerial pictures could be taken. crews are now digging up land around a shed behind the family home. we are also told that drawings, police dogthat dogs, police dogs are on the scene. this is after i was in kansas city 72 hours ago and spoke for almost two hours with the parents. this is me outside the family home two days ago. i walked by the side of the house, on the driveway where jeremy usually keeps his car, and as you can see there is the shed/garage that is the focus of today's search. coming around the

the first call went to his mother's ex-boyfriend a 42-year-old house painter named john irwin. >> head fallen on hard times when i was making a lot of money and i set him and his family up with housing and a car. >> so he owed you one? >> and i called that in. he reluctantly agreed to go along. >> keenan discovered that is sinatra, jr. was appearing at the arizona state fair. they flew to phoenix with the intention of snatching him there. realizing they made some key mistakes including leaving their fingerprints on a hotel phone they decided to abort their mission. >> so is arizona was out. >> arizona was out and we go home and john says forget about it. >> keenan didn't forget about it. hell bent on pulling it off he recruited another friend, a 23-year-old shellfish diver to help him with hesseman. he talked irwin into rejoining the team and they made plans to grab sinatra from the los angeles ambassador hotel. the day they picked? friday, november 22, 1963, the same day president john f. kennedy was assassinated in dallas. >> john was weeping and he was completely out of it and joe

deborah bradley and jeremy irwin, these could prove critical. we'll discuss it later with the family's lawyer at 1:45 p.m. today. but first, private investigator bill stanton who was working for the benefactor who has posted the reward in this case and has said all along his client is the truth and has seen the phone records is with me now. welcome back. >> thank you. megyn: all right, so these have proven -- you know, it's all about these phone records in part and whether any outgoing phone calls were made. the parents said the phones were restricted on october 3rd. the baby was taken overnight from the 3rd to the 4th. what have you seen? >> well, this -- as you said, this is so critical. there's a term called red lining, and that means you cannot make outgoing calls, but you can receive incoming calls. so sometime in the early afternoon -- i'm not going to give the specific time -- that line, both jeremy's and deborah's, were red lined. they could not make outgoing calls. that's not to say attempts could not be made. megyn: okay. so if they ha

they didn't say anything about jeremy irwin's cellphone.nder the parents' theory an intruder comes in steals the phones and baby. you attempt a call it doesn't go through. you use the other one. who won't try the other one? a person who knew that they were linked to the same bill and there was no point to try jeremy irwin's phone. >> what the lawyer says these calls absolve his client of responsibility, i completely disagree. no matter how you look at calls at best they are neutral as far as the mother's responsibility. they certainly don't absolve her of responsibility. megyn: i'm socon futures ned thisocon fuse ned this case. we have more questions than answers. thank you for helping us sort us 0 out. megyn: i'm there but we are not getting a lot closer. a tough new immigration law they say is racist in alabama. they are comparing it to the civil rights battles in the deep south. the alabama governor is very upset about this. he's new live 20 minutes away. new dustup about the former penn state coach jerry sandusky. we'll update you. megy

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and if the irwins, or debra bradley and jeremy irwin really want to help in this investigation insteadgoing on dr. phil they should go to the police department and continue the interviews after they changed their story so tkra nat particularlso dramatically that most of the initial interviews were useless. megyn: they say they will speak with dr. phil in an interview that will air i gather on the anniversary of baby lisa's disappearance. supposedly he is going to offer advice on how to cope with the situation. do you buy that mark? >> no i don't buy it at all. it's really self-serving as i said before. and it's self-serving to proceed pair really a piece of evidence to be introduced if there is ever a trial. you're almost like you're softening up a jury selection process, or a jury that is seated. if you really need to deal with the pain of the loss of a child, if that is really what their objective is, dr. phil on nation-wide tv would be the last place to do that. they can certainly seek that privately, which it should ab private matter. that is smoke and mirrors. just remember dr. ph

megyn: folks, new surveillance video in the search for lisa irwin. it shows a mystery man coming out of the woods. they claim he was spotted at least three times that night, some witnesses claim he was holding a baby. can you see that here? we'll ask the irwin family attorney what that might mean as he talks to us for the first time. >>> and is the cain train showing new signs of leaving the track? new fallout from his latest controversy just ahead. sweetie i think you need a little extra fiber in your diet. carol. fiber makes me sad. oh common. and how can you talk to me about fiber while you are eating a candy bar? you enjoy that. i am. [ male announcer ] fiber beyond recognition. fiber one. megyn: the world's most wanted drug lord may be hiding out in the united states. mexican president felipe calderon telling the new york times he thinks joaquin guzman could be on american soil. his nickname is el chapo. his wife recently gave birth in the u.s. where she is a legal citizen. that's why they think he might be here as well. guzman has been a fugiti

in the meantime there is a new twist in the search for baby lisa irwin.wyer called a news conference this morning and then abruptly canceled it. what police are now saying about the parents' cooperation in the kaeufplts also new arrests in the occupy wall street protests. demonstrators marching through the streets of lower manhattan in support of their counterparts in california. this after police move in to break up crowds there, and an iraq war veteran was critically injured. a live report next. i'd like one of those desserts and some coffee. sure. cake or pie? pie. apple or cherry? cherry. oil or cream? oil or cream? cream. reddi-wip us real dairy crm. nothing's more real than reddi-wip. america's fastest and most reliable 4g network in over 140 cities. verizon. built so you can rule the air. jon: taking a look now at some of the crime stories topping the headlines. an attorney for the parents of missing baby lisa irwin in missouri calling a news conference today and abruptly canceling this. this after an announcement by police that the parents refused

jus tip irwin said i unlocked.n intruder walked up the stoop into the home and left with that baby girl? it would have had to happen overnight. take a look at how close this house is to the street. it's steps away. there are neighbors everywhere. is it possible an intruder would have been that bold? the family believes the it is. >> two years later the questions remain. tonight baby lisa's parents are waiting for answers as to whether a young blond girl found in a gip si camp is their daughter. bill stanton worked with the family days after the baby was reported missing. he's private investigator. bill, good to see you. do you think this isser? >> no. >> the family does. >> the family pray and i hope it is for them. i don't think it is . >> why? >> the age difference, the distance. >> they say the girl is about 5. baby lisa would be only three. but the family says deb was saying she was always big. she was 10 months old wearing 18 to 24 months old outfits. >> i support their belief. but i believe baby lisa is much

this house is about .5, maybe a half mile away from where the irwin house is.out a three and a half, four-minute walk, maybe a minute and a half drive. they got a tip, and what they're doing, it doesn't look like time is of the essence here, that there's a great sense of urgency. well, there is, but they don't know how secure this well is. now the firefighters, what you're seeing there is a reporter scrambling, getting in front of his camera because that's how the local stations are getting their breaking news. they're trying to secure the well to make sure it's safe. we're going back to taped pictures now to make sure it's safe so they can go in there and thoroughly check out this well. he wouldn't tell us exactly how or why what they believe they're finding in this, but this, again, we're going back to pictures of the deck above the well. they want to go in and search, and this was -- megyn: and this is live. >> reporter: no, this is back to tape. no, this is live. kind of confused. tell me, live or tape? is. megyn: this is live now. >> reporter: okay, megyn.

bill: parents of lisa irwin are talking again.other of missing 11-month-old lisa sitting down with megyn kelly. what she is now saying about the night her daughter disappeared? >> did you have anything to do with your baby's disappearance? >> no. >> nothing. >> did you kill little lisa? >> no. >> no. >> she is still alive. >> do you believe she is still alive? >> yes, absolutely. >> did you hurt your baby? >> no. >> no. >> would you ever hurt your baby? >> absolutely not. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made. when i got my medicare card, i realized i needed an aarp... medicare supplement insurance card, too. medicare is one of the great things about turning 65, but it doesn't cover everything. in fact, it only pays up to 80% of your part b expenses. if you're already on or eligible for medicare, call now to find out how an aarp... medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company, helps cover some of the medical expenses... not paid by medicare part b. that can save you from payi

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