though rudolph denies it, some investigators feel this loss solidifies rudolph's resentment of the federalched to by his other family members for years about how his father had died from cancer, he couldn't get treatment in the united states because of the federal government. and i think all of this flavored and shaped his philosophy. i still believe in my heart that's what turned him into the person he was. >> he was, as someone who had difficulty making connections with other people, really intent on making a relationship with someone who had a unique viewpoint that he shared about the world, which was your beliefs are your own and you don't have to conform. that would have appealed to rudolph in a paternalistic way, but it also would have appealed to him in a justification of not being like everyone else. >> after her husband's death, rudolph's mother moves the entire family to the woods of north carolina. there she is close to tom branam and his family and further away from mainstream society. >> there was a real feeling in the family that the government and the health establishment an

the home of eric rudolph. unfortunately, the news travels faster than they do. >> the investigation of a deadly bombing at a clinic in alabama that performs abortions is centering on a gray nissan pick-up and a man who may know something about it. just moments ago investigators announced they have issued a material witness warrant for eric robert rudolph. they say he may have information about that truck. >> investigators rush to eric rudolph's last known address, hoping to catch him before he hears the news. >> by the time law enforcement authorities, both local and the local sheriff's office and the fbi and atf showed up at the trailer, the door was swinging in the wind. when you step inside here, you could tell that the individual who had left this trailer left in a big, big hurry. >> there were guns left in the trailer. there was a fairly substantial amount of cash that was hidden behind a picture frame that was left in the trailer. some of the same type clothing that the bomber in birmingham was supposed

the hunt for rudolph. run, rudolph, run, that type of thing., as support for rudolph. >> despite having the support of some of the locals, eric rudolph isn't one for company. by all accounts, he's preferred solitude since childhood. >> we put on a foull-court pres to determine and learn as much information as we could about eric rudolph. >> eric rudolph was raised in kind of counter culture background. big family. they had a lot of kids and they were -- they became more extreme in their religious beliefs as time went on. the only thing i know about eric rudolph's mother was that she was a very very strong influence on him. he was very very close to her. she has a strong internal compass on what's right and what's wrong. she transferred that to her son. >> eric's mother, patty, certainly believed, and i'm sure, still believes in holistic medicine. whether or not patty's distrust of doctors and the medical field, traditional medical field in general was tied into her distrust for authority, really don't know. but i do know that eric never went to

larry rudolph. group, we specialize in smile makeovers. andrea canning (voiceover): from the beginning, the business was a success, says former employee sherry houck. we did sedation dentistry, so you would do the dentistry all in one visit for the patient. so it would include root canals and crowns and everything. it wasn't odd to do a $10,000, $20,000, $40,000 case on somebody. they knew three rivers. they knew larry because he was commercialized. andrea canning (voiceover): anna grimley was larry's office manager. how did he come across in his ads, charming or funny or-- i think charming. i mean, he definitely knew how to sell what he was promoting. so yeah, people felt like they trust him. if they saw him, it's like, oh, it's dr. rudolph. they-- they would connect with the commercial. did larry seem to be making a lot of money from the business? absolutely. andrea canning (voiceover): larry's business was so successful, he and bianca bought a second home in a swanky phoenix suburb called paradis

and rudolph giuliani knows that. he knows that the statement he made in writing today, in this document, in this civil lawsuit, can and will be used by special prosecutor jack smith and eternity fani willis, as the equivalent of a confession to the crimes that he committed in georgia. but both of those prosecutors might already have rudolph giuliani's confession in testimony to the grand jury interest georgia. it's possible rid of giuliani gave up the lie as soon as he was put under oath by fani willis and in fulton county special grand jury. donald trump wrote something this morning with a classic trumpian miss spelling about what he assumes will be the case of united states versus donald j trump when jack smith's january six grand jury indites trump for his efforts to overturn the presidential election, using spelling that indicates he rode it himself. donald trump said, we'll have fun on the stand with all of these people that say the presidential election wasn't rigged and stolen, the trial of the century. one of

rudolph giuliani does not. the lawsuit says that route rudolph giuliani, quote, regularly drink all day and night. he was constantly consuming viagra, and he was constantly demanding sex from miss dunfee, who he was also representing as a lawyer in a lawsuit she was involved in before she went to work for giuliani. giuliani volunteered to represent her as alert for free was part of the reason that she went to work for him. what i'm about to read to you from the lawsuit against rudolph giuliani's much tamer then the most graphic lines in the lawsuit, but it is profoundly perverse. what passes through the mind of the man we all saw, ranting with hair dyed dripping down his sides of his face, it's much uglier. remember, as i read this, this scene alleged in the lawsuit is not happening in the office of the attorney general of the united states tonight because joe biden beat donald trump in the presidential election, and killed rudolph giuliani's dream of becoming attorney general or secretary of state another job

donald trump is the kind of person who has people like rudolph giuliani around him.he was the only president in history who would ever allow rudy giuliani into the white house to give him advice on anything important. donald trump used rudolph giuliani and a conspiracy to illegally overturn a presidential election. returning donald trump to the presidency means returning people like rudolph giuliani to the white house and people like michael flynn who donald trump said on saturday would return to the white house with him, after michael flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi and was been pardoned by donald trump -- we don't know what price if any michael flynn might have had to pay for that part or if giuliani was involved in selling that part. here's a sampling of the recorded statements, just the recorded statements that rudolph giuliani made that now up here as the basis for a lawsuit alleging sexual harassment sexual assault, denial of wages and other severe abuses of noËl dunfee. page 12, he was later recorded telling boston free i wanted you from the day i int

and, after signing that, rudolph giuliani said this. >> i talked to the president today.nce in him. >> amy lee copeland, isn't rudolph giuliani taunting the judge in this case with comments like that? >> he's playing with fire. it's a bit of a surprise. i think most attorneys that i know, and i'm one of them, nothing but scared attorneys. we have a healthy fear in respective judges. that may not have been the wisest thing for him to say. >> barb mcquade, i haven't done full research on this, on what must be the hundred and 50 or more u.s. attorneys in american history. but i'm not aware of u.s. attorney, former u.s. attorney ever having been indicted. not aware of u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, ever having been indicted. you have this job yourself. reflecting on what this means, what this means that it could come to this for a former u.s. attorney. >> it is quite a fall from grace to be charged. he is presumed innocent but i find it ironic that rudolph giuliani finds himself a defendant in a rico case. remember, it was giuliani who made a name for hi

attorney rudolph giuliani says that the mafia could be destroyed if the pressure is kept on 'em. - hisrno, the 76-year-old boss of the genovese mafia family, now serving 100-year sentence. - one of the things that these indictments demonstrate is that the upper echelon of the mob is no longer invincible. - he was a perfect match for new york city. he was a perfect match for a tabloid culture. he was a perfect match for a crime-reporting culture. and he was brash and he was, you know, he was a self-promoter. - great day for law enforcement, but this is a bad day, probably the worst, for the mafia. the indictment alleges numerous specific incidences of bribery, extortion, fraud, tax fraud, obstruction of justice, and perjury. - clearly, he impacted the mob in new york more than anyone else had, and was able to take out mob bosses who had been sitting there in place for a generation. - when people say there is no mafia and these organizations don't exist, i mean, i know from my history that there is such a thing. and i know what it does and what it can do. - there have been 80 death threa

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it is really hard to decipher rudolph giuliani's comments. i think maybe what he is referring to is people like george papadopoulos who was offered dirt by the russians in the form of thousands of e-mails stolen from clinton's inbox. paul manafort was the campaign chairman for roughly four months at the most pivotal moment. he is directly at the center of it. he was the highest ranking member of that campaign with the closest ties to russia. and it is important to remember that he was heavily in debt by the time he came on as chairman and he offered to do it for free. he offered campaign access to a russian old garg in exchange for debt relief. these are all things that won't be addressed in the upcoming trial due to begin tomorrow with jury selection because it will focus mostly on his tax and bank fraud crimes. there will be a reckoning and will it be in his d.c. trial which will focus on his efforts as an unregistered foreign agent. >> it is especially notable in a campaign as thenally staffed as the trump campaign. we know that from the r

>> rudolph was a very different case. it didn't involve a mail bomb, rather, rudolph planted physically and personally planted a bomb outside of the all-women abortion clinic in january of 1998 in birmingham. so he was actually seen by an eyewitness who observed him leaving the scene. that helped with his identification. but the agents who looked at the bomb, both physically, the components that were used to build the bomb, but also some decorative leaves on top of the bomb and some of the other housing for it, and they were able to track those components, identify rudolph as the person who purchased them. it was a pretty immaculate process that they pursued for linking rudolph to the bomb components. >> being able to track the components, the store where they were sold and the fact that he was the person that bought them. part of the reason i wanted to talk about this story, about walter moody tonight is because it seems instructive to me and helpful in terms of historical context here, in terms of everybody sort of jump

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rudolph giuliani is 79 years old. he is contemplating the possibility, tonight, of spending the final years of his life in prison in georgia, outside of the reach of a presidential pardon from the next republican president in united states. litman, and his legal column in the los angeles times calls this indictment the most far reaching and portentous response to trump's assault on democracy. special prosecutor jack smith is indicted on trump individually for much of the same conduct, described in the georgia indictment as a criminal enterprise. donald trump's last white house chief of staff, mark meadows, does not appear in jack smith's indictment. mark meadows is the fourth listed defendant and the george indictment. mark meadows is the first defended in the case to legally respond to the indictment by today filing a request in federal court to move the georgia case out of the fulton county courthouse to the jurisdiction of a federal judge. the federal judge who will consider that request is steve c. jones, appointe

is now considering how much money they will force rudolph giuliani to pay the farmer of fulton countyction workers, ruby freeman and shaye moss -- for the lies giuliani told about them. whatever the jury may have been no considering went up, when plaintiffs were able to show the jury now this video of giuliani committing defamation against the two women once again last night outside the courthouse. >> whatever happened to them, which is unfortunate for other people overreacting, but everything i said is true. >> do you regret what you did to ruby freeman? >> of course i don't regret it! i told the truth. >> what a sick, sick. man. rudolph giuliani zone lawyer has already said in court yesterday that ruby freeman and shaye moss are, quote, good people. that's his phrase. federal judge beryl howell questioned giuliani's lawyer today about how giuliani could have stood outside the courthouse last night and committed exactly the same offense against ruby freeman and shaye moss that has him facing a damages judgment now. the new york times reports, mr. sibley the lawyer also suggested that

then again here with rudolph giuliani. he was very careful in basically not criticizing the president. going out of his way not to do that. but trying to clarify his remarks. the fact is it did seem as if mitt romney's remarks evolved over a few weeks in 2007. you had what we had, what he told, what he said in iowa. ill-time and ill-conceived. then when rudolph giuliani basically sided with president obama saying i would not act alone. then you hear mitt romney sort of evolving in that and i think that's what he was hanging his hat on today. but i think it should be noted, i think you sort of see a turn in the romney campaign realizing, let's try not to have this debate today. because after yesterday and the jimmy carter line, i think they realized that probably wasn't the best political strategy. >> let me play what you referenced, romney's interview this morning. i'll get you in here as well. this morning on cbs with his wife. let's play it. >> i think them taking credit for the right decision is entirely appropriate. i

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rudolph giuliani, the former mayor of new york. back to you. >> thank you, chris. thank you, mr. mayor. hey, i bet james carville's got something to say. >> there he is. >> we forgot a little minor

that's in the atlanta metro area chlt eric rudolph is remembered for bombing the atlantic olympics in 1996. his bomb injured several people and killed one person. but after eric rudolph bombed the olympics and went on the run, that same guy bombed a gay bar in atlanta injuring five people and bombed an abortion clinic in birmingham, alabama, that killed a police officer and severely wounded the clinic's head nurse. but when he bombed that abortion clinic sandy springs, georgia, the first bomb went off at 9:30 in the morning. it ripped out part of a wall at the clinic. it destroyed the clinic but did not injury anyone. an hour later, the second bomb went off in a trash can just outside the building. this double bombing was designed to give responders enough time to arrive on the scene and figure out what the first bomb was about and the second bomb exploded then to try to kill the emergency responders. six people were hurt by the second blast including a federal atf at. eyewitnesss said it was a miracle that the second blast did not kill anyone. that was the bombing of the women's clin

. >> i'll talk about one of the biggest defenders, rudolph giuliani. we begin in sunrise, florida, where trump is expected to take stage at a rally this hour. do you think, this is an interpretive question. do you think trump knows what he was doing order does this automatically and then skips away from it as if it didn't happen? >> you're going to have to ask trump that. i'm not sure. >> i think he's gone off script a number of times and said things other candidates would never have said or lost their candidacy over. this is another exam many of that. as you played out. this is pushing back on this a lot and i'm sure, giuliani will say that as well, saying that he was inciting voters to act, to use their influence, not to incite violence. the issue with trump's campaign and why so few are giving him the benefit of the doubt. violence at rallies, donald trump talking about how he wants to punch a protester in the face, joking about how he can shoot somebody on fifth avenue and not who's votes. saying get him out of here. protesters should be roughed up

>> well, rudolph giuliani is clearly flailing. he's in the midst of what you would say is a massive scheme between elements of the federal government and the president's personal lawyer to get a foreign government to install itself in an american election. he's talking about corruption by joe biden. joe biden is not in office. if the president was interested in getting rid of corruption in the american government, it is an odd place to start with somebody who doesn't actually hold an office. rudolph giuliani has been traveling the world, cooperating with the state department. we've got reports of him dropping off dossiers at the state department, potentially. he goes on television talking about how he's being silenced which is a very odd place to talk about being silenced. i'm not sure what he's trying to do other than rally support to himself in a public relations sense. i know the yankees were on television tonight. it might be time to take in some television instead of going on. >> did he go to the yankee game tonight of i hast

and then there'sormer new yk mayor rudolph giuliani, reportedly the front-runner. he is making it clear he would like the job. >> now you're being considered for important jobs. the one i hear most often is secretary of state. have you had any conversations with him? >> i have. him and me. since i left mayor accident this is a rough estimate. i've been in 80 countries, 150 different foreign trips. i've been all over the world. very close friends with israel. >> only had raer knight hood from great britain. prime minister netanyahu has been my personal friend for many years. i never to go israel without spending time with him. and continuing world. >> well, giuliani or bolton might face opposition. it's great to have you on, senator rand paul. i was one of those who thought you would win this whole thing and i was wrong. >> a little bit off. a little bit off there. >> i thought country was ready for freedom from big government in the right way. one thing that he thought they campaigned on was he thought it was stupid, stupid wars. he didn't like regime change. he ta

and, you know, these are the kinds of people that eric rudolph hated. and so he put the bomb there when they would all be there. so sometimes that motive comes into play. we don't know yet, but we do know they're saying they believe it's terrorism. >> yeah, this is many of the people who are waking up to this news of an overnight shooting at an orlando nightclub that police say has left approximately 20 people dead, 42 people taken to the hospital. and, again, as we're looking at a live shot there, above the pulse nightclub. and you can see there, jim, the blownout window. you can't really tell where the armored vehicle was used to push in. of but certainly the aftermath and those doors that are wide open as this continues on. jim, stand by. i want to play a little bit of sound from some of the witnesses and their accounts after this shooting. let's listen. >> moving here, this is my first nightclub, being here two months. and this is the experience. i didn't know it was latin night. i didn't understand the music, but i still danced. i'm still wet. i do

i think there are huge advantages to rudolph giuliani, frankly. will go out and be a very tough negotiator for america and represent american interests in think rudy is a better pick ask has the right temperament. >> there's only one way that i think mitt romney could even be considered. public place and repudiates everything he said in that famous salt lake city speech. and everything he said after that. he said that donald trump wasn't fit and lacked character. that's why i think he has to stop and consider. >> for more, joined now by ken vogel and jay newton small. let's talk with this choice between mitt romney, rudolph giuliani, you have gingrich, huckabee. than mitt romney when they ran against him. do the anti-mitt romney forces have his ear? >> i think gingrich probably has his tear some extent. he was an early adopter that got on the train early. these are loyalists and these are not. one thing i think we have to an appeal, not just to the gop establishment but to the donor class. huge rolodex. devos is a major donor. anthony on the trans

take a look at how rudolph giuliani characterized michael cohen just a couple of months ago and then contrast that to what he said this past week. >> no, i expect that he is going to cooperate with him. i don't think they'll be happy with it because he doesn't have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. the man is an honest, honorable lawyer. i expected something like this from cohen -- he's been lying all week or two weeks -- lying all year. there isn't anybody that knows him that hasn't warned he if his back is up against the wall he'll lie like crazy because he's lied all his life. >> reporter: rudolph giuliani winning no points for subtleties there. if michael cohen as rudolph giuliani says has been lying all his life, at least for most of his career he was living at the request of donald trump since he was on the trump campaign or the trump organization payroll. the question, of course, is what changed. well, you now have michael cohen alleging that president trump, then-candidate trump, knew in advance of the now-infamous trump tower meeting where there was

fbi agents seized cell phones and computers from rudolph giuliani.t, quote, at least one of the warrants was seeking evidence related to murray and his role as ambassador to ukraine. in particular, the federal authorities where expected to scour the devices for communications between mr. giuliani and trump administration officials about the ambassador before she was recalled in april, 2019, one of the people added. maria bondage testified in the first halves impeachment investigation of donald trump. earlier today, time reported by the time federal investigators searched the manhattan home of rudy giuliani wednesday, they had amassed a trove of evidence from his associates in ukraine, focusing most intently on giuliani's ties to ukrainian oligarchs. three witnesses in the case told time. two of the witnesses say they were working with giuliani while cooperating talk with federal investigators. president biden told nbc's craig melvin that he learned about the raid of giuliani's home and office the same way we did. >> were you aware of that raid before

it is rudolph giuliani and a short-sleeved mitt romney entering ladder five, lower manhattan.r ground zero and of course, 11 firefighters, first responders from that engine company, died on that fateful day. so another picture with the pizzas. i guess being picked up before they were delivered. you call for pizza and you get mitt romney and rudolph giuliani. not bad service. >> no. look. i think you're right. this is a big story. rebolet what happened in new york on september 11th. such a touch stone culturally. the fascinating thing for political nerds like myself is the undercurrent here which is rudolph giuliani has been, or was at least, one of the most critical people, both in the 2008 campaign and in this campaign, of mitt romney. there is very little love lost between the two of them. so fascinating. politics can make strange bedfellows. >> indeed. thank you to you. thank you so much for today and every day and we'll be talking more with you tomorrow. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." join me for a live web chat today at msnbc.com. and today on

rudolph talked about working on that extensively. i was on and off at 17 years at that case and i'm telling you these guys get an arrogance about them that they think they can't be caught and if i could tell you the number of times that i've knocked on a guy's door that planted a bomb years ago and said, i have a warrant for you, you wouldn't believe it. they don't believe that you're ever going to find who they are. >> i see that. jim, can you see that in their faces? not to be too cute here, but i tell you, i've seen people come on television more nervous than these guys look. they look like cool customers and even more so because of their coolness. >> clint was a profiler. i'm telling you, we started atf put two profilers in that behavioral unit in 1983. we've had them there since. i've worked with them as commander. they are great. they tell you the kind of things, the nuances you need to know. but you don't need to know all that. if you look at the circumstances here, any good cop, journalist, any smart citizen can see what is g

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what william barr knows rudolph giuliani well. william byron knows donald trump well. and when asked if those two could have teamed up to sell 2 million dollar pardon split the money, william byron bars answer is, i don't know. asked that question to any other attorney general who was not appointed by donald trump or richard nixon and he would get a very very strong answer to that accusation, a very strong defense against an accusation like that. but to the question was rudy giuliani selling pardons $2 million is splitting the money with donald trump, william barr's best answer, as we saw him think about it, pause, and think about, it his best answer is, i don't know. don trump's answer to questions on cnn last week might have provoked one of his lawyers to quit. about the documents the fbi seized the search warrant from donald trump's residence in florida the don't trump said i took the documents, i am allowed to. he actually said those words. today, timothy one -- , of the lawyers defending donald trump in jack smith's special investigation, quit. jack smic served a