bill: senator edward kennedy, dead at 77, leaving behind a tremendous legacy but one full of controversy>> i am proud to be a liberal. bill: we will have a number of reports from dick morris, geraldo, laura ingraham, and glenn beck. also, chc leon panetta -- cia chief leon panetta's angry tirade. caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- hi, i am bill o'reilly. the subject of senator ted kennedy, that is the subject of tonight's "talking points memo." he left behind a 46-year legacy in the u.s. senate. ted kennedy was a dominant force but also a very controversial 13 and his legacy breaks down along controversial liberal minds, conservatives, generally speaking, thinking he was misguided and sometimes soars. there are some -- he was misguided and sometimes worse. if you know the bible, it says that personal judgments should be made by god and god alone. none of us has a right to demesne eight public servants -- a public servant -- none of

in both bills, kennedy bill page 62, house bill, 37, an appointed commission will decide all the specificss will cost, what they will cover and what the limits will be on the care. sean: isn't that the equivalent of canada? >> in the letter of the law, it appears to be that way. i'm concerned about the role that these advisers will play. sean: we now have a history where it doesn't matter if it's cap and trade or the stimulus bill. look at the size of this thing. literally congressmen and senators are voting on bills that they don't read. >> and they have exempted themselves and the president and federal employees. sean: i guess this is light sunday reading. you have read every page of both of these? >> yes. >> sean: what have you gleaned from this that would shock the conscience of america? >> most of the spending in these bills is in the back half of each bill. it's not just to covered the uninsured. hundreds of billions of dollars allocated to other types of programs. when you hear the urgency of covering the uninsured, we could do it up to $49 billion depending on the coverage we offer

in both bills, kennedy bill page 62, house bill, 37, an appointed commission will decide all the specificshe plains will cost, what they will cover and what the limits will be on the care. sean: isn't that the equivalent of canada? >> in the letter of the law, it appears to be that way. i'm concerned about the role that these advisers will play. sean: we now have a history where it doesn't matter if it's cap and trade or the stimulus bill. look at the size of this thing. literally congressmen and senators are voting on bills that they don't read. >> and they have exempted themselves and the president and federal employees. sean: i guess this is light sunday reading. you have read every page of both of these? >> yes. >> sean: what have you gleaned from this that would shock the conscience of america? >> most of the spending in these bills is in the back half of each bill. it's not just to covered the uninsured. hundreds of billions of dollars allocated to other types of programs. when you hear the urgency of covering the uninsured, we could do it up to $49 billion depending on the coverage

it's called the kennedy bill. senator kennedy helped write that bill. senators hatch and mccain and greg all voted against it. but the revisionist history goes deeper. they aren't just saying they would have voted for a kennedy health care bill, even though they had the chance and they didn't, they are saying they would have voted for a kennedy health care bill because ted kennedy would have compromised with them, because ted kennedy was all about making concessions to republicans. >> i would hope that his example of working together, coming together, in the spirit of compromise for this sake and good of the american people would have some effect. >> and he always was willing to reach an agreement, if it was reasonable, to try to move things along. >> we met for an hour about a couple months ago, and he said i'd really like to get this done and, of course i was prepared to try and put it together in a way that would really bring both sides together. >> apparently in the history of ted kennedy's life and work, as imagined by the gop today, senator kennedy

it's called the kennedy bill. senator kennedy helped write that bill. voted against it. >> well, some of kennedy's allies, it's no secret they want health reform passed this year in kennedy's name and kennedy's long-time friend, senator robbed byrd even said the legislation should be named for senator kennedy. but now republicans say the democrats are politicizing his death, using it to get their health plan passed. the white house says it will not play referee and now is not the time to talk about the political implications of the senator's death. alicia menendez is a democratic strategist and contributor for thestimulus.com and ron christie is a republican strategist. ron, you saw rachel's clip from the show. a lot of republicans are saying the senator would have brought something different to the table. do you buy that? >> i do actually, tamron. when i was in the white house, our staff negotiating very closely with the senator for no child left behind as well as the president's commitment for a national citizen's service act. he was a very, very good

what could be more fitting, the bill that ted kennedy helped pass, ek statically, for those who care about health care reform. the republicans claim that they were shut out of the negotiations, even though the bill contained 160 republican amendments, the republicans voted against the bill. i think that's hypocrisy. we are not going to get republican votes on health care. you can we're politicizing, the fact is that this is what senator kennedy wants, this is what he worked for, this is his passion, the cause of his life. if you had any questions about whether the republican members of the gang of six are working in good faith, take a look at what senator mike ensy said at a town hall on monday. the quote, if i hadn't been involved in the process as long as i have and to the depth as i have, you would already have national health care, it's not where i can get them to compromise, it's what i can get them to leave out. that's one of the gang of six that is supposed to bring the bipartisan part of this together so we can get some health care reform? enzi admitted that he's not there to

funeral and the memory of ted kennedy supposed to save a bill that the president himself is unable to save? >> this is not about using ted kennedy's death to pass this bill. this is about continuing his legacy. this is a man who referred to health care reform as the cause of his life. this is someone who has been since the 1970s has been fighting for this issue. so, celebrating his legacy by naming the bill after him is a contribute to him. it's not being done in any kind of exploitative way. laura: tara, you have listened to some the commentary, some the things being said on some of the other cable news programs about how barack obama is the last brother remaining? you know, one of our friends on another cable network said that the other morning. i was like what did i just hear from you? i disagree that there is not an attempt to use this moment as a very emotional moment for a lot -- >> -- cable news networks. i'm talking about our elected officials. laura: nancy pelosi. nancy pelosi right after ted kennedy died made an impassioned plea to, again, get this bill

kennedy was the architect. there would not be five bills. there would be somebody and ted kennedy, somebody on the republican side who understood how to follow quality leadership. and mr. obama, the president of these united states would be better off. >> mr. mayor, let me ask you about an historic question regarding the african-american community. it's so big and diverse of course as you know. it seems to me you and i grew up and you most clearly having grown up in the south and coming to san francisco for your career and law and politics, that ted kennedy was a brother of two brothers, bob and jack kennedy who shared with martin luther king, the honor of being treated as heroes to so many black families. >> yes, absolutely. and it was frankly because this was a privileged person, a person born in the commonwealth of massachusetts, a person from a family with great opportunities, and great resources. yet none of us ever looked at him that way. as he walked through the fields with us in mississippi helping to produce the numbers for the voter

kennedy's favorite songs. it is just sort of an odd coincidence. bill burton said the white house does not have any opinion on some of the liberal groups now trying to leverage, in the minds of some, the death of senator kennedy to push forward the health-care debate. he said the white house will not comment on that and that is not appropriate. and questions about how to replace senator kennedy, and whether or not to change the state law. he said the president would not put his thumb on that scale. as for the people of massachusetts to decide. the governor of massachusetts has indicated that he will sign it. it appears that momentum to replace senator kennedy will move forward, but bill burton said the white house will not involve itself in that debate. martha: major garrett, thank you very much. we will be checking back in with you as we continue to go back and forth from martha's vineyard and hyannis port and the route to boston. his life was lived in the public eye. unimaginable highs and lows. if you made this up and brought it to a publisher, they

you know, hatch and mccain had the chance to vote for ted kennedy's bill in ted kennedy's committee.ccain was on that health committee. he could have voted for it. >> let me ask you this. i'm still a believer it's possible to get to 60 in the senate and 218 in the house with smart legislation thinking here, maybe a one or two-step process, maybe not everything, a trigger of some kind of some kind of major historic commitment of health care for everybody. an enrollment of everybody. >> i agree with joan it's not going to be done with significant republican support, but they are going to need a couple. they will need olympia snowe and maybe susan collins. >> at least one. >> and so -- and they're going to need those moderate democrats some of whom are getting unenthusiastic like joe lieberman. the idea that this is going to be rammed through with all the things the democrats want, it's unrealistic and unted kennedy. >> i'll give you my premise. i'll tell what you i think and then say do you agree or not. i think the keys are within the democratic party. they need to have a meeting and

they were put out of business by kennedy's bill. and he worked with republicans on that bill, started with president ford's white house, and there were democrats who were opposed to what he did. and this was, frankly, i think it was one of his most significant legacies. guest: but he did it through advocating because of the committee he was on didn't quite have jushes diagnose over that. so he managed to use his power just being himself, pushing this issue. and he managed to get it done even though it wasn't a ket item for him. host: richard cohen reports for national journal. they were are guest for about 20 more minutes. north adams, massachusetts on our democrat's line. good morning to mike. caller: good morning. i think he has a remarkable record and i think it's sad that people on the other side will do nothing but try to pick apart everything that he has done as if they haven't done anything. i also find it remarkable that you could take three men from a family as wealthy as theirs and they actually cared about working people a

today, health care would not be in trouble if ted kennedy was the architect that would not be five bills. there would be somebody and ted kennedy, somebody on the republican side who understood how to follow quality leadership and mr. obama, the president of these united states would be better off. >> mr. mayor, let me ask you about a historic question. our after cone american community is so big and diverse, as you know. it seems to me you and i grew up and you most clearly grew up in the south and came to san francisco for your career in law and politics that ted kennedy was a brother two of brothers, bob and jacken i d kennedy thatd that honor of being treated as heroes to so many black families. >> it was. this was a privileged person, a person born in the commonwealth of massachusetts. a person from a family with great opportunities and great resources. yet, none of us ever looked at him that way. as he walked through the fields with us in mississippi, helping to produce the voter registration numbers that ultimately came the foundation for the democratic party, it was ted kennedy.

in the senate or house that has done more for human rights, civil rights, health, than ted kennedy. every bill that affected us in civil-rights, kennedy was eager the sponsor or cosponsor. if you look every year, there was a maze of bills dealing with us and people having challenges in our community, ted kennedy was there. he was our statesmen in the u.s. senate. >> an iraqi war dead turned pro at least was racially profiled last week after being approached about a gun that was actually a cell phone. the civil rights leader called for better training from baltimore police when dealing with such incidents. it happened in the harborplace light street pavilion. >> members of the west baltimore conservation and finally returned home to their place of worship. fire destroyed parts of the bethel a.m.e. church after lightning struck its steeple last month, forcing members to a temporary place of origin. yesterday that welcomed members back to their drew hill avenue home for sunday services. a homecoming long overdue for some. >> i'm excited, overwhelmed, relieved to be back calm. >> i'm really glad y

on a very regular basis as this went through and his bill certainly has ted kennedy'singerprints all over it, but this committee did a great job. and they produced a terrific bill and it's a bill that i think the senate is for the most part going to pass in the fall. >> governor, what about those who say that president obama will have to do what similar to lbj did, going to congress and saying we've got to do this for senator kennedy as it was done for the civil rights movement for his brother? will we hear that kind of conversation as those are stirring words to hear this man say it's a cause of my life. >> you know, i actually think that the president obama would be very willing to do that but i don't think he has to. ted kennedy had a 46-year career in the united states senate. and many have known him for decades. and so you almost don't have to say that at this point. i think everybody gets the idea. this is the time to do it. you know, we've lost a huge star and a huge pillar of strength but in some ways you know, after life is over, the pillar of strength becomes

ted kennedy's legislative accomplishments on civil rights also include the americans with disabilities act, the american fair housing act and recently, a senate billans from hate crimes. for more on kennedy's civil rights legacy, i am joined by reverend jesse jackson of the rainbow push coalition. reverend, good to have you on with us today. >> good morning, ed. what a sad day. >> it is a very sad day. i think many african-americans are probably thinking would all of those things had not gotten done had ted kennedy not been an advocate. what do you think? >> well, you have to connect him with the legacy of john and bobby and ted as a successor in that leadership. but he was a transformative leader. the '64 civil rights act broke the back of the lockout by race. signify voting rights act redefined americans real and ruled democracy. title ix for women, women's disabilities act and 18-year-olds right to vote and consistent with dr. king and cesar chavez and mandela and president obama have consistency of work and i must say in the early years, ed, facing great life-threatening danger. >> no doubt about it. he was a man of tremendous passion. he beli

we had a wide bipartisan support for the kennedy bill. it has worked amazingly well until they started pushing medicaid people into approach chip. they are trying to get us to a single payer system. if we go to that system. everybody in america will be very upset. look at canada. the leading canadian women on health care came out and said that situation is ready to implode. they cannot continue on the way they are going. that is a single payer system. greta: if senator kennedy is unavailable to vote and the democrats have all of these votes, it's going to pass? >> the democrats should be able to pass it because they have an overwhelming majority in the house and the senate. the only people they cannot control of the american people who are expressing their opposition to this type of thing. they have the ability to pass something. there are a lot of democrats who note -- medicare is $38 trillion in unfunded liability. it can go bankrupt within the next 10 years. you look at the budget and the deficit and the other things, outbreak are doub

people who i suspect whose political -- would not be liked if this bill were changed to be called the kennedy health reform bill. like you said, pat buchanan, ted kennedy understood more than anybody else how to bring coalition together and also you did a quietly -- behind t skehe scenes. you recognize the realities that every one of these senators and congressmen have to face when they go to their home state or district. >> that's right, joe. as someone said -- i think wisely, no liberal is going to lose his seat if there is no government option. but if there is a government option, you know, a lot of the blue dogs will be barking for the last time. and i think this they have to realize that and i think senator kennedy would have fought down the line until he got to the finish line and just like ronald reagan accepted 25% tax cut rather than the 30% he demanded, i think senator kennedy would have urged them and probably would have been able to persuade the progressives and the red hots that this is what we have to take now because it is all we can get and we have all been working for 100% of

when we did the hatch-kennedy bill, we had a wide bipartisan support for that, and it worked amazinglyey started pushing medicaid people into chip, again, an incremental step to get as to a single-payer system. i have to tell you, everybody in america is going to be sad. look at canada. just last week, the leading canadian woman on health care came on and said that situation is ready to implodes. -- to implode. that is a single-payer system up there. greta: let's say the democrats do have all of these votes, is this going to pass? be able toç pass it. that overwhelming majorities in the house, and they have 60 solid votes in the senate. the only people they cannot control his the american people who are showing opposition to this. like i said, there are a lot of democrats who do not want this government plan knowing that, look. medicare is now $38 trillion that could go bankrupt. you look at the budget and the deficits and all the other things that are adding up. we are doubling the budgetary deficit, the national debt within five years, and we will triple in five years -- in 10 years

i'm against the kennedy bill. i hope i can be for a bipartisan bill. won't know until we get it developed. but if i can't defend that, then we shouldn't be doing it, or any plan, the pelosi plan or the kennedy plan or the obama plan. >> woodruff: senator charles grassley, we appreciate your answering our questions. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> ifill: finally tonight, the problems created by trash floating in the pacific ocean. here's an encore of a spencer michels science unit report. >> former owner of the a furniture repair business in long beach, california, and an amateur scientist, surprised the scientific world with the discovery he made in the middle of the pacific ocean. while sailing his research vessel back from hawaii in 1997, he ran into what he calls a vast garbage patch in a calm part of the sea. >> every single day for that week we saw trash every time we came on deck. i think it's fair to say that the phenomena exists from just off the coast of china all the way to a few hundred miles from the coast of california. >> reporter: usi

bills. the idea of trading fundamental insurance reform for a mapped date on individuals to buy insurance. an idea supported by either the insurance industry all of the way over to senator ted kennedy and barack obama. right now, we're in a situation, the one thing that's clear about these town halls and there's more intensity in the opposition than in the support. that's clearly the poll. >> bill clinton weighed in this week on health care reform. speaking in pittsburgh, we have a clip of that. >> it's not only the morally right thing to do. it's politically imperative for the democrats to pass a health care bill now. one thing we know and that i have lived through, is that, if you get out there and you don't prevail, the victors get to rewrite history. >> we talked about the substance of the bill we should point out. that's the raw politics of it. ed, you have been on the losing side on some of these big debates. does this remind you at all of president bush's push for social security reform. >> a little bit. i have been on some winning sides, too. >> absolutely true. >> by the way, a point about palin's death panel comment, it's worth noting that the senate finance committee dro

then in the decisive tv debate, kennedy asked romney for the specific budget impact of a health bill.do not know the specific number romney confessed. kennedy then pounced on him. that's what you have to do with legislation, kennedy scolded his challenger, to the applause of the crude, that's what you have to do with the predecessor.

no one in the senate or house that has done more to human rights civil rights help than ted kennedy. every billaffected us in civil rights kennedy was either the sponsor or co-sponsor. i'm saying to every bill if you look every year there was a major bill dealing with us as a people dealing with us having challenges in our communities ted kennedy was there. he was our champion in the united states senate. >> he also weighed in on the controversial arrest of baltimore ravens rookie tony fine. cheatham said the iraqi war vet turned pro athlete was racially profiled last week after being approached about a gun that was actually a cell phone. the civil rights leader called for better training for baltimore city police when handling such situations. the incident happened in the harbor place pavilion which was the scene of a shooting one week prior. >> it is official, summer vacation is now over for maryland students. many return to class tomorrow. baltimore city, howard county, students in anne arundel county returned to class last month carroll county students tuesday and hartford county students w

bill. ted kennedy came along when the civil rights bill was at its height. he moved into law. was a fighter for civil rights and he would -- one thing people do not remember is the behind-the-scenes kennedy, who was really interested in the people, for example, during the vietnam war when we're talking about bringing them home out of vietnam at the end, there was a closed-door briefing with a general to talk about how to do this. the general was speaking in terms of units that would be moved through the pipeline to get them out of there and kennedy said, wait a minute, general, we are not talking about units. we're not talking about pipelines. we're talking about people. that was kennedy's signature, he saw the people behind the numbers. >> also in 1968 he was somewhat ambivalent of the war and made a couple of trips over there and then after 1968 he was very against it. >> one of the great strengths he had was highlighted in most of the memorial's to him, he had a great self-deprecating humor. in january 1971, robert byrd upset him in t democratic caucus. he began 31-24. he ha

kennedy. that set off 10-12 days and which other things happen. that summit billrately or inadvertently injecting race into the campaign that kennedy bullyboys district. -- believed was destructive. kennedy urged him to get off of it. bill clinton was furious to b-2s that he was injecting race into the campaign. if you look at bill clinton's history, you can see that he has always tried to bring together the races, but ted kennedy was convinced that it was destructive. he kept asking clinton to stop this topic and they even argue about the war and other things. ultimately, the clintons apparently concluded that hillary was not going to get the endorsement. then they tried to convince kennedy to stay neutral. in the end, kennedy decided he went to endorse obama. in the final scene of this episode, the day after the south carolina primary obama has won a huge victory after a nasty contest. it is beginning to leak that kennedy is endorsing obama. bill clinton calls and wants to know why. kennedy briefly explains. clinton hangs up and calls that minutes later -- i wan

. >> the way it was originally designed it was the hatch/kennedy bill. we wrote it together. i have to say, that plan basically provided block grants to states. for the states, according that own demographics to set up their own children programs. it worked amazingly well until the liberals started to push more medicaid people into the we did c.h.i.p. for the kids, the ononly kids lele outf the health carare e systemem. chilen othe rking pooror. w, it's being used to pushsh medicaid peoplplinto it. everytng t the democrats are doing, i is pushing tords a single-payayer system.m. everything.ogovernmement control this p public plan, this p publi gogovernment plan, donon't thinr a nu, that that willll not syemy the current ininsurance 8 out of 1amerericans are basiy pleded with their r he care. they would like to improve it healtharee problems areakenen care of. we all want to do that. 64% of them they would prefer that over a government plan. we're just pushing like mad to get a government plan here. >> 79% of americans say their premiums are too high. >> we all agree with that

kennedy. that set off 10-12 days and which other things happen. that summit bill had deliberately or inadvertently injecting race into the campaign that kennedy bullyboys district. -- believed was destructive. kennedy urged him to get off of it. bill clinton was furious to b-2s that he was injecting race into the campaign. if you look at bill clinton's history, you can see that he has always tried to bring together the races, but ted kennedy was convinced that it was destructive. he kept asking clinton to stop this topic and they even argue about the war and other things. ultimately, the clintons apparently concluded that hillary was not going to get the endorsement. then they tried to convince kennedy to stay neutral. in the end, kennedy decided he went to endorse obama. in the final scene of this episode, the day after the south carolina primary obama has won a huge victory after a nasty contest. it is beginning to leak that kennedy is endorsing obama. bill clinton calls and wants to know why. kennedy briefly explains. clinton hangs up and calls that minutes lat

that program was developed by senator ted kennedy. >> tell us about the bill the kennedy committee passed and about his concept of health care reform and where it stands now in his absence. >> well, as you know and i think all of the viewers know kennedy's passion was that every single american have health care as a right of citizenship. he understood that there was something lacking in our country today when we remained the only nation in the industrialized world that does not provide health care to all people and yet we end up spending twice as much as any other country. where we are right now is senator kennedy's committee, which was led by chris dodd in his absence, has passed a pretty strong health care bill, which among other things has a strong public option, which would substantially increase the number of community health centers in america so that all americans in fact would have access to a doctor, to dental care, to low cost prescription drugs, a greater emphasis, much greater on disease prevention and on quality care and of course access for all americans. that was passed by

the senate or the house that has done more for human rights, civil rights, health than ted kennedy. every billed us in the civil rights kennedy worked as a sponsor or co-sponsor. if you look every year there is a major bill dealing with us, people dealing with us that are having challenges in our communities. ted kennedy was there. he was our champion dealing with the united states senate. >> let's move on to a local issue in baltimore city. two weeks ago there was a double city inside the lake street pavillion involving gang members. after this the police commissioner advocated a more aggressive approach downtown. some think it is too aggressive. where does your organization stand on this? >> we are most concerned with the language that was used. the language that we heard coming from the commissioner was somewhat reiterated by the mayor. we actually took a vote this week. we felt the language was inappropriate. the language was lending itself to encouraging racial profiling. we sent a letter before the profiling incident to the mayor examine police commissioner indicating that we are concern

bill. how much do you catch onto it, do you name this the senator edward m kennedy health care reform bill? do you play that up? what do you do with your democrats because you don't want to alienate their right altogether, just caught on the left. >> just what was said. due to the great work of senators like ted kennedy, that's not the issue that's being addressed by the current health care legislation, we're basically talking about a public option, that will socialize the national economy and force almost every single american over the course of time into a single payer system. that's the opposition. let's face facts, we've heard it for the last several days since the passing of senator kennedy, he is probably the most powerful and trance sen dent movement politician of our time. what does that mean? it means that he represented a cause so much greater than himself, that people were drawn to him. now, that might live on and endure as the senator and his very powerful words have said, but i don't think it's going to do much to really galvanize those who weren't already on his side and who a

these bills that we're talking about, it's the difference between henry waxman bill and a ted kennedy bill orrin hatch was even in the room. >> i want to take a step back and talk about the huge philosophical and ideological split on this. it really does get to the role of government. and part of the intensity that we're seeing around the country at these rallies, where people are showing up with guns, in some cases, or as i referred to last week, i referred to a man outside a rally in new hampshire, he was carrying a gun and had a sign that was a quote of jefferson that to a lot of people has become a motto for violence against the government. i asked senator coburn of oklahoma about that. and this is what he said. >> well, i'm troubled any time when we stop having confidence in our government. but we've earned it. this debate isn't about health care. health care's the symptom. the debate is an uncontrolled federal government that's going to -- 50% of everything we're spending this year, we're borrowing from the next generation. >> hold on. i want to stop you there. i'm talking about the

bill. senator ted kennedy lies in pose. a senate delegation will arrive shortly to the library where we are to pay their last respects. we'll have journey to his final resting place. we'll talk to one of his nephews about carrying on his legacy. and we'll talk to some of his former staffers, including supreme court justice steven breyer. and he'll talk about how he inspired them to greatness. i know you have more to come in new york, bill. >> we do, kate. >>> we have the latest on that shocking story out of california. jaycee dugard, kidnapped in california. held for 18 years. we're learning new details, including just how close the authorities came to finding jaycee, when neighbors had their suspicions. >>> and a different story in northern california. everything must go, if it's government property, that is. the state is in such dire financial straits, they're having a fire sale. computers, motorcycles, even prison uniforms are up for grabs at low prices. we'll have the details coming up. >>> first, let's go back to kate

how much do you think that this is -- kennedy, a bill in bed -- the want to name names?en beck? >> i think it has been enflamed allowed by them. they have gotten into trouble for, too, because it is ugly. to spread fear and loathing -- what ever happened to the idea of we have nothing to fear but fear itself? what happened to american courage? >> it is alive and well in your town hall meetings. you see it everywhere. >> i am a product of town hall meetings. i grew up in massachusetts. town hall meetings were pieces for the aggrieved went. >> of the doctor's been able to help you? [laughter] >> certainly not. the fact was that the town hall meetings, you were able to have civil conversations about the problems in town. everything from parking spaces to where the dogs pooped. we should be able to learn from the way things were done in the past tenderly as civil conversation going on. >> well, you talk about -- i've been the the fear of fear itself has been replaced, certainly in broadcast executive suite, but the fear of falling ratings. >> yes, sir. you said it. >> yes. a

kennedy displayed day in and day out. he was a hard-charger. some claim naming the health care billth. his whole life was politics. he wrote the bill. his name is on it. this is about respect and honor, making sure his work goes on. that's how i see it, and this is how i think many liberals in this country will remember ted kennedy when it comes to the 11th hour of fighting for those who are in need and fighting for the working folk of america. this is the kind of passion that we may be missing in this health care debate. this was ted kennedy, the one i knew. >> we still cannot get a $2.15 over two years, over two years. what is the price we ask the other side? what is the price that you want from these working men and women? what cost? how much more do we have to give to the private sector and to business? how many billion dollars more are you asking, are you requiring? when does the greed stop we ask the other side? >> so many parallels in this health care fight. joining us now is pennsylvania governor ed rendell. ed, great to have you on tonight. that passion undoubtedly is going

kennedy. lawmaker is -- asking that the bill be named after kennedy. so far republicans are showing no signs of compromise. wowtunrne now we turn to the wr today. temperatures are on their way back up today before a big drop- off in time for the weekend. maybe you were hoping to go to the beach. what is the latest? >> it is the second to last weekend before the big holiday weekend. it is not looking so good but it will not necessari be danny's we are looking at our weatherbug network and be watching the sun he will see those clowns chicken as the afternoon wears on. -- you will see those clouds thicken as as the afternoon wears on. clouds will bring in a couple of thunderstorms, but the big story will be the cooler temperatures. eventually may be some effects of danny on the coast. >>> d.c. school officials say they have seen a bomb in public school roland this week. the chancellor says it stands at 41,000. -- a bumomp in public-school enrollments this week. the final enrollment is projected to reach 44,681. in prince george's county, schools say they

in one way or another they were associated with ted kennedy many times he was the sponsor of those billsd kennedy accomplished four... far more in his time in the senate than probably any of the presidents that i can recall, the ten presidents that he served with during that time. >> couric: bob schieffer, doug brinkley, that you can both so much for your invaluable insight. and coming up next here on the "cbs evening news," the village the kennedys have called home for decades, hyannisport, massachusetts. my grandkids are a great reason for me to keep my bones strong but even with calcium, vitamin d, and exercise, i still got osteoporosis. i never thought i could do more than stop my bone loss. then my doctor told me i could, with once-monthly boniva. boniva works with your body to help stop and reverse bone loss. studies show, after one year on boniva, nine out of ten women stopped and reversed their bone loss. i know i did. (announcer) don't take boniva if you have low blood calcium, severe kidney disease or can't sit or stand for at least one hour. follow dosing instructions carefull

> senator kennedy was sidelined during a heated debate over president obama's planned reform of health care reform. orrin hatch said the senate probably would have had a health care reform billt if kennedy had been healthy. before he died, senator kennedy tried to make sure that massachusetts would have two senators in place. it. massachusetts law requires a successor be chosen by a special election five months after the opening. he sent a letter asking that law to be changed. governor patrick said he will sign that bill if the legislature passes it. >>> senator kennedy's time in the senate was not just influencing policy, he also affected change. he was instrumental in the fight for civil rights, democracy, and peace. tonight, world leaders are reacting to his passing. it nowhere outside of america has the kennedy legacy been more deeply felt than in northern ireland. senator kennedy worked as a power broker in the years before the good friday peace talks which laid the groundwork for the lasting peace accord. >> the interest he took in the process was a valuable source of support and comfort for all of us on the island of ireland as we move forward with what i of t success

when it was time they've put on the pressure and of all, also did but the calls became the ted kennedy and bill clinton but also hillary are part of a novel itself. they are angry, talked about race, contentious, not to buy land, but it wasn't hot stuff and they went back and forth over days before oersted decided he would endorse obama. and he did so because not because he did not like hillary but he had decided long before, the more he watched obama he said he reminds me of jack and bobby. he is speaking to a new generation, bringing something i have not seen, the family was reacting to this so this angry contention took place and that endorsement, obama will say it now that it was the catapults at that point* that he also sealed at that point* the african-american approached parker it is an interesting factor in this campaign began we went to a lot of focus groups that were remarkably interesting one of the very first in 2007 was a group of voters that were democrats and there were three african-american women in that focus groups that all said they were four hillary clinton. and as the conv

his signature issue. >> this is the cause of my life. >> reporter: in 1971, kennedy worked to defeat a nixon health care bill because he thought it was too watered down. >> it's really a partnership between the administration and the insurance companies. >> reporter: he would come to regret that. in the years to come, kennedy, the liberal lion, would get things done by working with republicans and compromising when he needed to. he worked with arch conservative orrin hatch, to expand health coverage for poor children. >> we've been adversaries for 32 years. we've also been partners. >> reporter: he worked with the first president bush on the americans with disabilities act, opening access for the disabled in public places everywhere. >> presint of the united states, george bush. >> reporter: and in an even more unlikely alliance, he joined forces with the second president bush on education reform. >> then, of course, there's senator edward kennedy. the folks at the crawford coffee shop would be somewhat in shock when i told them i actually like the fella. >> reporter: he could also clash mightily with republ

they would say well, ted kennedy wouldn't do this, a bill would never get out of the health committeef ted kennedy were sitting in the chair. in a sense, his role might have been overstated but, you know, he was very version -- until a month ago, he was pretty closely engaged, deputized chris dodd and chris dodd, you know, got the bill out of the committee, so, you know, at this point it, it is unclear what was going on. >> interesting, jeanne, here president obama has the problem with his base on this question of the public option, a government plan alongside private insurance plan to create competition. while that's become the area where the fight is really heated, you look at some of the things already achieved possible here carrying out, getting the insurance industry on board, not deny people based to on conditions, those things in agreement with pharmaceutical companies, individual mandate that alluded ted kennedy back in previous addition. >> he was one to say don't let the perfect get in the way of the possible. and it is -- it is easy to look at the health care debate right n

bill of right for them. more than 100 passengers were stranded on the tar pack at kennedy as airport. the bill would allow passengers off plane once it's been delayed for three hours. airlines have to provide food, water and adequate bathrooms for passengers who are stranded on the ground. >> passengers ought to have some rights. they shouldn't just be treated as cattle going on that railroad car and whatever happens to you, tough luck. >> schumer says he expects the full senate to take up the bill this fall. >> bikers suited up, revved up and hit the road today. all in the name of drawing attention to hiv and aids. tv and radio personality led the ride for life. a convoy of 2,000 bikers rode from rfk stadium to six flags in upper marlboro. >> until they find a cure for aids everybody should do as much as they can to help get rid of this disease. >> organizers say this year yes, sir event is the most aggressive since the ride started back in 2007. good thing they rode today and not yesterday, huh? >> yesterday they would have needed the full protection suit yesterday. no doubt. >> nice