have john nesbitt he is the co-author of the bestselling book china megatrends eight pillars of a new society and we also have doris nesbitt she's the director of the nesbitt china institute i want to go to you first. we when we hear we hear the term reset people obviously go to the united states and russia but i'd like to pose before we get to that reset if it's real or not the greatest reset in international relations in the last twenty years since the end of the cold war is the new engagement that russia and china have which is quite remarkable ok so i want to talk about this triad a little. bit here but first you know let's let's look at the reset is real and then we'll put china into it is the reset real or is it just a media event just for both sides to say it can't go on like this we really do have to talk to each other and we have to have some kind of moment and it was a change of administration it's a change of administration even if it only were a formula that allowed the two countries to talk together after a very difficult period in the relationship it would be important. that's what the reset has been about the countries are talking together now in a way they